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Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:51 am

Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:49 am The government's campaign has been a train-wreck so far. If it weren't for Albo's 'gaffe' early on, which the media went hysterical over for a week, this would be no contest. Even Albanese getting covid-19 wasn't the negative that the MSM hoped it would be, because it allowed Labor to showcase the quality of their team. Morrison looks stale and under pressure, and the fact that Coalition MP's are now free-lancing to try and save their jobs suggests that their internal polling isn't brilliant.

Apparently it is your home state, Queensland, which is the most right leaning of the Australian states, and the one which is likely to bring Scumo home again. The Courier Mail is the red hot crucible of the Murdoch empire.

That being the case, why do you live there?

Why does anyone live in Australia for that matter?

And yet QLD has proudly elected a state Labor govt for 26 of the last 29 years.

Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:59 am

Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:51 am

Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:49 am The government's campaign has been a train-wreck so far. If it weren't for Albo's 'gaffe' early on, which the media went hysterical over for a week, this would be no contest. Even Albanese getting covid-19 wasn't the negative that the MSM hoped it would be, because it allowed Labor to showcase the quality of their team. Morrison looks stale and under pressure, and the fact that Coalition MP's are now free-lancing to try and save their jobs suggests that their internal polling isn't brilliant.

Apparently it is your home state, Queensland, which is the most right leaning of the Australian states, and the one which is likely to bring Scumo home again. The Courier Mail is the red hot crucible of the Murdoch empire.

That being the case, why do you live there?

Why does anyone live in Australia for that matter?

And yet QLD has proudly elected a state Labor govt for 26 of the last 29 years.

Perhaps Queenslanders only trust the socially responsible left with the small stuff. Don't touch our mines, etc.

I don't know much about Queensland politics. Is the Labour party in Queensland similar to the Labour party in Victoria? Or is it just a name?

How can they vote LNP at a federal level and Labour at a state level?

Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:07 pm

Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:59 am

Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:51 am Apparently it is your home state, Queensland, which is the most right leaning of the Australian states, and the one which is likely to bring Scumo home again. The Courier Mail is the red hot crucible of the Murdoch empire.

That being the case, why do you live there?

Why does anyone live in Australia for that matter?

And yet QLD has proudly elected a state Labor govt for 26 of the last 29 years.

Perhaps Queenslanders only trust the socially responsible left with the small stuff. Don't touch our mines, etc.

Small stuff like schools, hospitals, policing, roads and public transport? Yep small stuff like that.

Pakia Pakia wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:09 pm I don't know much about Queensland politics. Is the Labour party in Queensland similar to the Labour party in Victoria? Or is it just a name?

How can they vote LNP at a federal level and Labour at a state level?

They do what Murdoch tells them to do. Perhaps he doesn’t care about state politics?

towny wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 1:41 pm

Pakia Pakia wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:09 pm I don't know much about Queensland politics. Is the Labour party in Queensland similar to the Labour party in Victoria? Or is it just a name?

How can they vote LNP at a federal level and Labour at a state level?

They do what Murdoch tells them to do. Perhaps he doesn’t care about state politics?

Th Courier Mail campaoigned relentlessly against the Palaszczuk government at the last few elections, with little or no effect. I think you overstate Murdoch's power. The reality is this is a state with historically very strong fossil fuel and farming interests, and rightly or wrongly many electorates felt that the Coalition best reflected their values at the Federal level. But there is a change happening and I expect the Coalition to lose plenty of votes in May.

Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:51 am

Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:49 am The government's campaign has been a train-wreck so far. If it weren't for Albo's 'gaffe' early on, which the media went hysterical over for a week, this would be no contest. Even Albanese getting covid-19 wasn't the negative that the MSM hoped it would be, because it allowed Labor to showcase the quality of their team. Morrison looks stale and under pressure, and the fact that Coalition MP's are now free-lancing to try and save their jobs suggests that their internal polling isn't brilliant.

Apparently it is your home state, Queensland, which is the most right leaning of the Australian states, and the one which is likely to bring Scumo home again. The Courier Mail is the red hot crucible of the Murdoch empire.

That being the case, why do you live there?

Why does anyone live in Australia for that matter?

Why dont you ask 500,000 Kiwis
Poor Muttonbrain, this is is the only thread left for him to troll all things Aussie.

Australia is pretty nice tbf.

Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:07 pm

Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:59 am

Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:51 am Apparently it is your home state, Queensland, which is the most right leaning of the Australian states, and the one which is likely to bring Scumo home again. The Courier Mail is the red hot crucible of the Murdoch empire.

That being the case, why do you live there?

Why does anyone live in Australia for that matter?

And yet QLD has proudly elected a state Labor govt for 26 of the last 29 years.

Perhaps Queenslanders only trust the socially responsible left with the small stuff. Don't touch our mines, etc.

The ALP in QLD love mines. Love them to bits. A fully unionised workplace is a dream for the ALP and mining in this state has flourished under the ALP state government.

The federal government has little to no say over mining in QLD.

Thomas wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:44 pm

Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:07 pm

Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:59 am

And yet QLD has proudly elected a state Labor govt for 26 of the last 29 years.

Perhaps Queenslanders only trust the socially responsible left with the small stuff. Don't touch our mines, etc.

The ALP in QLD love mines. Love them to bits. A fully unionised workplace is a dream for the ALP and mining in this state has flourished under the ALP state government.

The federal government has little to no say over mining in QLD.

Yes - despite muttonhead's occasional interest in matters Australian, how responsibilities are divvied up here is pretty much a mystery to him.

MungoMan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 1:22 am

Thomas wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:44 pm

Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:07 pm Perhaps Queenslanders only trust the socially responsible left with the small stuff. Don't touch our mines, etc.

The ALP in QLD love mines. Love them to bits. A fully unionised workplace is a dream for the ALP and mining in this state has flourished under the ALP state government.

The federal government has little to no say over mining in QLD.

Yes - despite muttonhead's occasional interest in matters Australian, how responsibilities are divvied up here is pretty much a mystery to him.

Throw him some slack hes been getting his news from Sky lately. The doom anti Labor bold sold font headlines always parked on the bottom of the screen would have him mesmerized.

I would have thought he'd be more concerned with the weirdos in opposition in NZ. Card carrying conservative loons led by a guy who is anti-abortion and appears to be in favour of gay conversion therapy.

I must admit, has been one of the dullest election campaigns I can remember.
Still too close to say who is looking the best.
Probably independents, seems to be where all the action/ructions is. And Libs have most to lose there.

For those who think the ABC is not LNP-biased, watch Q&A from last night......

Stan (I love the sound of my own voice) Grant talked over all the female, non-LNP guests but gave arch-fuckwits Campbell Newman and Stuart Roberts dorothy dixers

Disgraceful

Pat the Ex Mat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:16 am For those who think the ABC is not LNP-biased, watch Q&A from last night......

Stan (I love the sound of my own voice) Grant talked over all the female, non-LNP guests but gave arch-fuckwits Campbell Newman and Stuart Roberts dorothy dixers

Disgraceful

We did get to see Newman eviscerated on live TV though.

https://twitter.com/Aaroncraine1/status ... 2779244544

Thomas wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:46 am

Pat the Ex Mat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:16 am For those who think the ABC is not LNP-biased, watch Q&A from last night......

Stan (I love the sound of my own voice) Grant talked over all the female, non-LNP guests but gave arch-fuckwits Campbell Newman and Stuart Roberts dorothy dixers

Disgraceful

We did get to see Newman eviscerated on live TV though.

https://twitter.com/Aaroncraine1/status ... 2779244544

Yes, that was illuminating.

Has he always been batshit or is it a requirement to get a lobotomy for joining the Liberal Democrats?

Pat the Ex Mat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:48 am

Thomas wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:46 am

Pat the Ex Mat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:16 am For those who think the ABC is not LNP-biased, watch Q&A from last night......

Stan (I love the sound of my own voice) Grant talked over all the female, non-LNP guests but gave arch-fuckwits Campbell Newman and Stuart Roberts dorothy dixers

Disgraceful

We did get to see Newman eviscerated on live TV though.

https://twitter.com/Aaroncraine1/status ... 2779244544

Yes, that was illuminating.

Has he always been batshit or is it a requirement to get a lobotomy for joining the Liberal Democrats?

Newman was an adequate Lord Mayor of Brisbane. But mayor is just a glorified councilor. His stint as premier was pretty foul and he went berko. I read a great article on him and why he went feral. He likes to blame the ALP who made some pretty nasty comments about his wife.

As for being a fruitcake Libertarian? Well, Libertarians are just weird at the best of times but I think he's worked out it's his ticket.

He's classic ex-Army who can't handle it when people won't do what he orders

Plum

Pat the Ex Mat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:16 am For those who think the ABC is not LNP-biased, watch Q&A from last night......

Stan (I love the sound of my own voice) Grant talked over all the female, non-LNP guests but gave arch-fuckwits Campbell Newman and Stuart Roberts dorothy dixers

Disgraceful

Wow, damning. Thats the whole network condemned then.

Thomas wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:03 am

Pat the Ex Mat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:48 am

Thomas wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:46 am

We did get to see Newman eviscerated on live TV though.

https://twitter.com/Aaroncraine1/status ... 2779244544

Yes, that was illuminating.

Has he always been batshit or is it a requirement to get a lobotomy for joining the Liberal Democrats?

Newman was an adequate Lord Mayor of Brisbane. But mayor is just a glorified councilor. His stint as premier was pretty foul and he went berko. I read a great article on him and why he went feral. He likes to blame the ALP who made some pretty nasty comments about his wife.

As for being a fruitcake Libertarian? Well, Libertarians are just weird at the best of times but I think he's worked out it's his ticket.

He should be congratulated for taking voters away from LNP base. A fringe party it will remain in a state that is home for the fringe crazy.

In other ABC= LNP news Sarah Ferguson replaces Leigh Sale on 7.30 report. Shes a fairly cold interviewer and knows her shit. Seems like a good choice, Leigh hasnt been cutting it for a while now.

Pat the Ex Mat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:48 am
Has he always been batshit or is it a requirement to get a lobotomy for joining the Liberal Democrats?

The President of the NSW Lib Dems posts on another forum I'm on (a cricket forum). His political opinions are batshit, but he's otherwise very smart (unfortunately).

Lib Dems are often very smart (or like to tell you how smart they are). They are just cooked though.

grievous wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:26 am

Thomas wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:03 am

Pat the Ex Mat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:48 am

Yes, that was illuminating.

Has he always been batshit or is it a requirement to get a lobotomy for joining the Liberal Democrats?

Newman was an adequate Lord Mayor of Brisbane. But mayor is just a glorified councilor. His stint as premier was pretty foul and he went berko. I read a great article on him and why he went feral. He likes to blame the ALP who made some pretty nasty comments about his wife.

As for being a fruitcake Libertarian? Well, Libertarians are just weird at the best of times but I think he's worked out it's his ticket.

He should be congratulated for taking voters away from LNP base. A fringe party it will remain in a state that is home for the fringe crazy.

All those votes come straight back to the LNP though. I see the preference deals are doing the rounds. One Nation in some seats in QLD is preferencing the Greens over the ALP.

Thomas wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:40 am

grievous wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:26 am

Thomas wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:03 am

Newman was an adequate Lord Mayor of Brisbane. But mayor is just a glorified councilor. His stint as premier was pretty foul and he went berko. I read a great article on him and why he went feral. He likes to blame the ALP who made some pretty nasty comments about his wife.

As for being a fruitcake Libertarian? Well, Libertarians are just weird at the best of times but I think he's worked out it's his ticket.

He should be congratulated for taking voters away from LNP base. A fringe party it will remain in a state that is home for the fringe crazy.

All those votes come straight back to the LNP though. I see the preference deals are doing the rounds. One Nation in some seats in QLD is preferencing the Greens over the ALP.

They go through the wash, dont always come out clean. Any base vote under 30% is big trouble for either party but the LNP are slowly collapsing via all their factions and splinters like LDs and then Independents.
One Nation are up to their usual act of being absolutely invisible between elections then suddenly have relevance with preferences for LNP. They have also claimed to preference Labor in Tas then said they wouldnt...claiming they obtained funding for projects the Libs are responsible for....all just attention whore shit.
Whats happened to the Clive show? Ive hardly noticed his cowardly yellow ads and billboards.

grievous wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:49 am Whats happened to the Clive show? Ive hardly noticed his cowardly yellow ads and billboards.

They're everywhere... his little yellow signs have been put up by the roadside all throughout the country.

Slim 293 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:57 am

grievous wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:49 am Whats happened to the Clive show? Ive hardly noticed his cowardly yellow ads and billboards.

They're everywhere... his little yellow signs have been put up by the roadside all throughout the country.

Even in deepest darkest werribee has this blight appeared, not smart considering labore could run a rock out here and it would get elected

As a proud inner Westie, the crew vandalise his billboards within hours of them being posted

Slim 293 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:57 am

grievous wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:49 am Whats happened to the Clive show? Ive hardly noticed his cowardly yellow ads and billboards.

They're everywhere... his little yellow signs have been put up by the roadside all throughout the country.

Like last time? Ad on radio and TV every break? No they are not.

grievous wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:56 am

Slim 293 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:57 am

grievous wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:49 am Whats happened to the Clive show? Ive hardly noticed his cowardly yellow ads and billboards.

They're everywhere... his little yellow signs have been put up by the roadside all throughout the country.

Like last time? Ad on radio and TV every break? No they are not.

Mercifully so, too. I've seen one or two ads featuring the great tub of blubber himself and thought, Where the fúck is Captain Ahab when you need him?

Pat the Ex Mat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:21 am He's classic ex-Army who can't handle it when people won't do what he orders

Plum

His late mother, Jocelyn, was a Minister for five years in the Federal Government. He is a total underachiever by comparison.

grievous wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:56 am

Slim 293 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:57 am

grievous wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:49 am Whats happened to the Clive show? Ive hardly noticed his cowardly yellow ads and billboards.

They're everywhere... his little yellow signs have been put up by the roadside all throughout the country.

Like last time? Ad on radio and TV every break? No they are not.

Well, I just drove from Melbourne to Batemans Bay via the coastal route, onto the ACT and then back down the Hume, stopping in various towns… and yes, the posters are everywhere.

The billboards have been up for months…

I can’t speak for radio and commercial TV as I’m under 60…

Slim 293 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:15 am

grievous wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:56 am

Slim 293 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:57 am

They're everywhere... his little yellow signs have been put up by the roadside all throughout the country.

Like last time? Ad on radio and TV every break? No they are not.

Well, I just drove from Melbourne to Batemans Bay via the coastal route, onto the ACT and then back down the Hume, stopping in various towns… and yes, the posters are everywhere.

The billboards have been up for months…

I can’t speak for radio and commercial TV as I’m under 60…

Hardly seen any, you must live in underprivileged areas.
So TV/radio is for over 60s?
Look people our own little Tik Tok PR poster.

grievous wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:07 pm

Slim 293 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:15 am

grievous wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:56 am

Like last time? Ad on radio and TV every break? No they are not.

Well, I just drove from Melbourne to Batemans Bay via the coastal route, onto the ACT and then back down the Hume, stopping in various towns… and yes, the posters are everywhere.

The billboards have been up for months…

I can’t speak for radio and commercial TV as I’m under 60…

Hardly seen any, you must live in underprivileged areas.
So TV/radio is for over 60s?
Look people our own little Tik Tok PR poster.

I don’t live in just one underprivileged area?

Slim 293 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:54 pm

grievous wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:07 pm

Slim 293 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:15 am

Well, I just drove from Melbourne to Batemans Bay via the coastal route, onto the ACT and then back down the Hume, stopping in various towns… and yes, the posters are everywhere.

The billboards have been up for months…

I can’t speak for radio and commercial TV as I’m under 60…

Hardly seen any, you must live in underprivileged areas.
So TV/radio is for over 60s?
Look people our own little Tik Tok PR poster.

I don’t live in just one underprivileged area?

If you say so.

grievous wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:07 pm
Hardly seen any, you must live in underprivileged areas.
So TV/radio is for over 60s?

They are all over Sydney - you're lying

Also, his adverts are repeated twice every ad break on SBS

Pat the Ex Mat wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:20 am

grievous wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:07 pm
Hardly seen any, you must live in underprivileged areas.
So TV/radio is for over 60s?

They are all over Sydney - you're lying

Also, his adverts are repeated twice every ad break on SBS

Im lying?
Its my opinion stop stamping your little feet.
Clive had his ads on radio/tv every 5 minutes, not this time. sure there are billboards but not in the scale of last time.
he spent 80m last campaign lets see what the figure is this time.

Ok Boomer

At the risk of incurring the wrath of both of you you’re probably both right in your own ways.

You’re both coming across like Guy Smiley- being the right cnut in the room - which isn’t a good look.