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Tehui wrote:The uppercut that Povetkin landed on White reminded me of Ibeabuchi's uppercut on Chris Byrd over 20 years ago. One punch only. Good night nurse.
One aspect I'm enjoying about the punch is all the live commentary's which were declaring White the winner just before stuff like:


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Andy Lee

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Dillian saw Povetkin was hurt but not out of it so he took his time rather than rusung in. But you can see the two stone difference means Whyte's shots really have that extra force behind them.
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BREAKING
Whyte is knocked out
Whyte v Povetkin

Whyte is now DOWN!!!!!

Povetkin has landed an extraordinary upper cut!!!!

IT'S OVER!!!!

WHYTE HAS BEEN KNOCKED OUT!
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That's the nature of heavyweight boxing I suppose. Incredible power these fighters have. Anyway I feel gutted for White, I hope after the Fury-Joshua stuff he finally gets his shot sometime.
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eldanielfire wrote:
Tehui wrote:The uppercut that Povetkin landed on White reminded me of Ibeabuchi's uppercut on Chris Byrd over 20 years ago. One punch only. Good night nurse.
One aspect I'm enjoying about the punch is all the live commentary's which were declaring White the winner just before stuff like:


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23:18 22 Aug
Post update

Andy Lee

Former middleweight world champion on BBC Radio 5 Live

Dillian saw Povetkin was hurt but not out of it so he took his time rather than rusung in. But you can see the two stone difference means Whyte's shots really have that extra force behind them.
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Posted at 23:18 22 Aug23:18 22 Aug
BREAKING
Whyte is knocked out
Whyte v Povetkin

Whyte is now DOWN!!!!!

Povetkin has landed an extraordinary upper cut!!!!

IT'S OVER!!!!

WHYTE HAS BEEN KNOCKED OUT!
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That's the nature of heavyweight boxing I suppose. Incredible power these fighters have. Anyway I feel gutted for White, I hope after the Fury-Joshua stuff he finally gets his shot sometime.
Only in your head is what you posted declaring Whyte the winner. Whyte was on top and it would have been ridiculous if the commentators hadn't said so.
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What a punch.
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I thought Povetkin looked done at the end of the 4th. Leggy, slow telegraphed punches and Whyte looked like he still had another couple of gears. For him to then stop a top 5 ranked HW in the manner he did, aged 41 is freakishly impressive.

What happens if Whyte wins the rematch? Do the WBC guarantee him a title shot again or will it be up to Fury?
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New guy wrote:I thought Povetkin looked done at the end of the 4th. Leggy, slow telegraphed punches and Whyte looked like he still had another couple of gears. For him to then stop a top 5 ranked HW in the manner he did, aged 41 is freakishly impressive.

What happens if Whyte wins the rematch? Do the WBC guarantee him a title shot again or will it be up to Fury?
Assuming Whyte wins then it's back to as you were i.e. he's mandatory but he'll get his shot at Fury or Wilder at some time on the 1st of never.
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Frodder wrote:
New guy wrote:I thought Povetkin looked done at the end of the 4th. Leggy, slow telegraphed punches and Whyte looked like he still had another couple of gears. For him to then stop a top 5 ranked HW in the manner he did, aged 41 is freakishly impressive.

What happens if Whyte wins the rematch? Do the WBC guarantee him a title shot again or will it be up to Fury?
Assuming Whyte wins then it's back to as you were i.e. he's mandatory but he'll get his shot at Fury or Wilder at some time on the 1st of never.
You have a lot of faith in the WBC
"That is a matter to be determined," said Sulaiman. "The WBC will analyse the situation.

"Povetkin is the interim champion now. That's a position in the rules that he is mandatory, so the timing of the enforcement of the mandatory has of course changed from the ruling what the WBC in the past months have ratified at the convention."

Whyte intends to enforce an immediate rematch with Povetkin and Sulaiman revealed that the mandatory position could again be at stake.

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I'd like to see Whyte fight for a belt after Fury V Joshua. Let those two get their contracted fights out of the way and then have Joshua/Fury 1 in March and a rematch in the summer.

After that let Usyk fight for the WBO and Whyte (or whoever) fight for the WBC.

These things never pan out as you hope though.
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I'd just like to see both Joshua and Fury get past their next opponent. Joshua in particular has a serious guy in Pulev and Fury is in against a man that has knocked him down twice.
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I cant see Pulev troubling Joshua too much. I think he's got solid fundamentals but he's not particularly mobile and I think he'll get caught by a big right eventually.

Wilder can KO any fighter but he's vanished off the face of the earth since February so god knows if that'll even happen.
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Anonymous. wrote:I'd just like to see both Joshua and Fury get past their next opponent. Joshua in particular has a serious guy in Pulev and Fury is in against a man that has knocked him down twice.
They'll be fine. Fury is too awkward to be caught, ad Joshua just plays it safe now.
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New guy wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:46 am Wilder can KO any fighter but he's vanished off the face of the earth since February so god knows if that'll even happen.
Maybe he's been wearing that cute batman suit of his in public to protect himself from COVID.
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Tehui wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:13 am
New guy wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:46 am Wilder can KO any fighter but he's vanished off the face of the earth since February so god knows if that'll even happen.
Maybe he's been wearing that cute batman suit of his in public to protect himself from COVID.
It's a good idea for him to get used to wearing it on long walks. Then he won't get so tired next time he wears it on his ring walk.
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Tehui wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:13 am
New guy wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:46 am Wilder can KO any fighter but he's vanished off the face of the earth since February so god knows if that'll even happen.
Maybe he's been wearing that cute batman suit of his in public to protect himself from COVID.
It's a good idea for him to get used to wearing it on long walks. Then he won't get so tired next time he wears it on his ring walk.
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Tehui wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:13 am
New guy wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:46 am Wilder can KO any fighter but he's vanished off the face of the earth since February so god knows if that'll even happen.
Maybe he's been wearing that cute batman suit of his in public to protect himself from COVID.
It's a good idea for him to get used to wearing it on long walks. Then he won't get so tired next time he wears it on his ring walk.
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Tehui wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:13 am
New guy wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:46 am Wilder can KO any fighter but he's vanished off the face of the earth since February so god knows if that'll even happen.
Maybe he's been wearing that cute batman suit of his in public to protect himself from COVID.
It's a good idea for him to get used to wearing it on long walks. Then he won't get so tired next time he wears it on his ring walk.
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booji boy wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:03 am
Tehui wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:13 am
New guy wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:46 am Wilder can KO any fighter but he's vanished off the face of the earth since February so god knows if that'll even happen.
Maybe he's been wearing that cute batman suit of his in public to protect himself from COVID.
It's a good idea for him to get used to wearing it on long walks. Then he won't get so tired next time he wears it on his ring walk.
How do you think the rest of Wilder's boxing career will play out?
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Tehui wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:20 am
booji boy wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:03 am
Tehui wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:13 am
New guy wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:46 am Wilder can KO any fighter but he's vanished off the face of the earth since February so god knows if that'll even happen.
Maybe he's been wearing that cute batman suit of his in public to protect himself from COVID.
It's a good idea for him to get used to wearing it on long walks. Then he won't get so tired next time he wears it on his ring walk.
How do you think the rest of Wilder's boxing career will play out?
TBH I haven't followed that much of his career and the fights I have watched I was amazed how wild and amateurish he was. That big knockout punch was his main weapon. But Fury largely neutralised that in their first fight and completely neutralized it in the rematch. Have no idea really. Is he scheduled to fight Fury again?
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booji boy wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:42 am
Tehui wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:20 am
booji boy wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:03 am
Tehui wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:13 am
New guy wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:46 am Wilder can KO any fighter but he's vanished off the face of the earth since February so god knows if that'll even happen.
Maybe he's been wearing that cute batman suit of his in public to protect himself from COVID.
It's a good idea for him to get used to wearing it on long walks. Then he won't get so tired next time he wears it on his ring walk.
How do you think the rest of Wilder's boxing career will play out?
TBH I haven't followed that much of his career and the fights I have watched I was amazed how wild and amateurish he was. That big knockout punch was his main weapon. But Fury largely neutralised that in their first fight and completely neutralized it in the rematch. Have no idea really. Is he scheduled to fight Fury again?
I'm not sure who's scheduled to fight whom next, but we both share the same view of Wilder. The man packs a punch, but boy does he swing from all corners and leave himself exposed.
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Tehui wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:50 am
booji boy wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:42 am
Tehui wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:20 am
booji boy wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:03 am
Tehui wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:13 am

Maybe he's been wearing that cute batman suit of his in public to protect himself from COVID.
It's a good idea for him to get used to wearing it on long walks. Then he won't get so tired next time he wears it on his ring walk.
How do you think the rest of Wilder's boxing career will play out?
TBH I haven't followed that much of his career and the fights I have watched I was amazed how wild and amateurish he was. That big knockout punch was his main weapon. But Fury largely neutralised that in their first fight and completely neutralized it in the rematch. Have no idea really. Is he scheduled to fight Fury again?
I'm not sure who's scheduled to fight whom next, but we both share the same view of Wilder. The man packs a punch, but boy does he swing from all corners and leave himself exposed.
Wilders supposed to fight Fury next, however I believe the contract stipulates it's supposed to happen before the end of the year and Wilder has barely been seen since February so I wouldn't be surprised if it never materialises.

Honestly I hope it doesn't. I'd much rather see Wilder fight anyone else in the top 10 than Fury for a third time. He should have a soft fight against somebody like Charles Martin to rebuild some confidence and then set up a massive fight with somebody like Whyte.
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New Guy 2 wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:35 pm Wilders supposed to fight Fury next, however I believe the contract stipulates it's supposed to happen before the end of the year and Wilder has barely been seen since February so I wouldn't be surprised if it never materialises.

Honestly I hope it doesn't. I'd much rather see Wilder fight anyone else in the top 10 than Fury for a third time. He should have a soft fight against somebody like Charles Martin to rebuild some confidence and then set up a massive fight with somebody like Whyte.
Wilder has never been a big draw. His fights with Fury dwarf his previous paydays. Wilder v White without a belt would have to be in the UK and would still wouldn't be big payday. if he does not fight Fury I will believe the rumours about him suffering from depression.
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Norman Harvey wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:27 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:35 pm Wilders supposed to fight Fury next, however I believe the contract stipulates it's supposed to happen before the end of the year and Wilder has barely been seen since February so I wouldn't be surprised if it never materialises.

Honestly I hope it doesn't. I'd much rather see Wilder fight anyone else in the top 10 than Fury for a third time. He should have a soft fight against somebody like Charles Martin to rebuild some confidence and then set up a massive fight with somebody like Whyte.
Wilder has never been a big draw. His fights with Fury dwarf his previous paydays. Wilder v White without a belt would have to be in the UK and would still wouldn't be big payday. if he does not fight Fury I will believe the rumours about him suffering from depression.
I have just seen the depression rumours. Thanks for the heads-up
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Norman Harvey wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:27 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:35 pm Wilders supposed to fight Fury next, however I believe the contract stipulates it's supposed to happen before the end of the year and Wilder has barely been seen since February so I wouldn't be surprised if it never materialises.

Honestly I hope it doesn't. I'd much rather see Wilder fight anyone else in the top 10 than Fury for a third time. He should have a soft fight against somebody like Charles Martin to rebuild some confidence and then set up a massive fight with somebody like Whyte.
Wilder has never been a big draw. His fights with Fury dwarf his previous paydays. Wilder v White without a belt would have to be in the UK and would still wouldn't be big payday. if he does not fight Fury I will believe the rumours about him suffering from depression.
You're right he's not a big name, certainly not as big a draw as he maybe should be. Really the issue lies with the quality of opposition. Apart from Fury the only decent boxer he's fought is Oritz, who isn't exactly a massive name.

I get they were trying to protect him but I do wish they'd rolled the dice a but more and gone up against some top 10 heavyweights like Povetkin, Whyte, Ruiz. I'm not convinced he beats any of them but it'd certainly be edge of your seat stuff. I'd still love to see him fight Joshua but thats gone forever now.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:41 pm
Norman Harvey wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:27 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:35 pm Wilders supposed to fight Fury next, however I believe the contract stipulates it's supposed to happen before the end of the year and Wilder has barely been seen since February so I wouldn't be surprised if it never materialises.

Honestly I hope it doesn't. I'd much rather see Wilder fight anyone else in the top 10 than Fury for a third time. He should have a soft fight against somebody like Charles Martin to rebuild some confidence and then set up a massive fight with somebody like Whyte.
Wilder has never been a big draw. His fights with Fury dwarf his previous paydays. Wilder v White without a belt would have to be in the UK and would still wouldn't be big payday. if he does not fight Fury I will believe the rumours about him suffering from depression.
I have just seen the depression rumours. Thanks for the heads-up
Sure as hell shouldn't be fighting Fury in a few months if true.

Hope he's alright. He seems like a decent bloke most of the time.
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New Guy 2 wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:49 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:41 pm
Norman Harvey wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:27 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:35 pm Wilders supposed to fight Fury next, however I believe the contract stipulates it's supposed to happen before the end of the year and Wilder has barely been seen since February so I wouldn't be surprised if it never materialises.

Honestly I hope it doesn't. I'd much rather see Wilder fight anyone else in the top 10 than Fury for a third time. He should have a soft fight against somebody like Charles Martin to rebuild some confidence and then set up a massive fight with somebody like Whyte.
Wilder has never been a big draw. His fights with Fury dwarf his previous paydays. Wilder v White without a belt would have to be in the UK and would still wouldn't be big payday. if he does not fight Fury I will believe the rumours about him suffering from depression.
I have just seen the depression rumours. Thanks for the heads-up
Sure as hell shouldn't be fighting Fury in a few months if true.

Hope he's alright. He seems like a decent bloke most of the time.
This is boxing where everyone lies all the time. Is he down on losing the title? I'm sure he is. That doesn't necessarily equate to depression. But the major U.S. boxing business is based on casinos paying tons of money for site fees to promoters. The current pandemic completely throws that model in the trash. Throw on top of it all arenas at the moment must be underwater. The Orlando arena just rented out their arena for WWE to use for $450k for the entirety of September and October, which is NOTHING. No major fighter is fighting in this country a major fight (something stay busy in a gym for an easy KO and a token amount of TV money, sure) until this pandemic is done done to the point business returns to normal. Being depressed means he has a reason for inaction and is not required to fight for a fraction of the money. If it's cold to not necessarily believe him, excuse me for questioning the guy that blamed his KO loss on the outfit he wore walking to the ring.
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Flyin Ryan wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:03 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:49 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:41 pm
Norman Harvey wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:27 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:35 pm Wilders supposed to fight Fury next, however I believe the contract stipulates it's supposed to happen before the end of the year and Wilder has barely been seen since February so I wouldn't be surprised if it never materialises.

Honestly I hope it doesn't. I'd much rather see Wilder fight anyone else in the top 10 than Fury for a third time. He should have a soft fight against somebody like Charles Martin to rebuild some confidence and then set up a massive fight with somebody like Whyte.
Wilder has never been a big draw. His fights with Fury dwarf his previous paydays. Wilder v White without a belt would have to be in the UK and would still wouldn't be big payday. if he does not fight Fury I will believe the rumours about him suffering from depression.
I have just seen the depression rumours. Thanks for the heads-up
Sure as hell shouldn't be fighting Fury in a few months if true.

Hope he's alright. He seems like a decent bloke most of the time.
This is boxing where everyone lies all the time. Is he down on losing the title? I'm sure he is. That doesn't necessarily equate to depression. But the major U.S. boxing business is based on casinos paying tons of money for site fees to promoters. The current pandemic completely throws that model in the trash. Throw on top of it all arenas at the moment must be underwater. The Orlando arena just rented out their arena for WWE to use for $450k for the entirety of September and October, which is NOTHING. No major fighter is fighting in this country a major fight (something stay busy in a gym for an easy KO and a token amount of TV money, sure) until this pandemic is done done to the point business returns to normal. Being depressed means he has a reason for inaction and is not required to fight for a fraction of the money. If it's cold to not necessarily believe him, excuse me for questioning the guy that blamed his KO loss on the outfit he wore walking to the ring.
To be honest I dont know where the depression things come from. May just be people trying to explain why Deontay has completely vanished. I cant see Fury/Wilder 3 happening, Furys side are acting like it is but I think it's a case of being seen to be fulfilling their contractual obligation. In reality I dont think Wilder wants it and as you say, the money isn't there right now because of Covid anyway.
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New Guy 2 wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:05 pm
Flyin Ryan wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:03 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:49 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:41 pm
Norman Harvey wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:27 pm

Wilder has never been a big draw. His fights with Fury dwarf his previous paydays. Wilder v White without a belt would have to be in the UK and would still wouldn't be big payday. if he does not fight Fury I will believe the rumours about him suffering from depression.
I have just seen the depression rumours. Thanks for the heads-up
Sure as hell shouldn't be fighting Fury in a few months if true.

Hope he's alright. He seems like a decent bloke most of the time.
This is boxing where everyone lies all the time. Is he down on losing the title? I'm sure he is. That doesn't necessarily equate to depression. But the major U.S. boxing business is based on casinos paying tons of money for site fees to promoters. The current pandemic completely throws that model in the trash. Throw on top of it all arenas at the moment must be underwater. The Orlando arena just rented out their arena for WWE to use for $450k for the entirety of September and October, which is NOTHING. No major fighter is fighting in this country a major fight (something stay busy in a gym for an easy KO and a token amount of TV money, sure) until this pandemic is done done to the point business returns to normal. Being depressed means he has a reason for inaction and is not required to fight for a fraction of the money. If it's cold to not necessarily believe him, excuse me for questioning the guy that blamed his KO loss on the outfit he wore walking to the ring.
To be honest I dont know where the depression things come from. May just be people trying to explain why Deontay has completely vanished. I cant see Fury/Wilder 3 happening, Furys side are acting like it is but I think it's a case of being seen to be fulfilling their contractual obligation. In reality I dont think Wilder wants it and as you say, the money isn't there right now because of Covid anyway.
I'm sure the money is not there to have it at a Casino in America but remember what Arum was saying in June

June
But Arum moved to play down fears from some fans that the fight is destined for the Middle East, insisting all options remain on the table.
“America I would never rule out as the venue because the gates are huge and the pay-per-views are huge,” added the veteran Top Rank promoter.

“But it doesn’t necessarily have to be in America. It doesn’t necessarily have to be in the UK or Europe or the Middle East.

“Everything is subject to working out.”
August
While fans yearn for a heavyweight battle of Britain unification bout with Anthony Joshua, Fury finds himself contractually obliged to take on Wilder once again.

It was initially set to take place at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on July 18 - but the coronavirus pandemic put paid to that.

New plans have been drawn up to get the fight on before the end of 2020 - at the same venue on December 19.

But now, Fury's veteran promoter Arum, speaking to Sirius XM, has admitted the fight could be moved all the way back to next February if no crowd could be permitted before the end of the year.
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:51 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:05 pm
Flyin Ryan wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:03 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:49 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:41 pm

I have just seen the depression rumours. Thanks for the heads-up
Sure as hell shouldn't be fighting Fury in a few months if true.

Hope he's alright. He seems like a decent bloke most of the time.
This is boxing where everyone lies all the time. Is he down on losing the title? I'm sure he is. That doesn't necessarily equate to depression. But the major U.S. boxing business is based on casinos paying tons of money for site fees to promoters. The current pandemic completely throws that model in the trash. Throw on top of it all arenas at the moment must be underwater. The Orlando arena just rented out their arena for WWE to use for $450k for the entirety of September and October, which is NOTHING. No major fighter is fighting in this country a major fight (something stay busy in a gym for an easy KO and a token amount of TV money, sure) until this pandemic is done done to the point business returns to normal. Being depressed means he has a reason for inaction and is not required to fight for a fraction of the money. If it's cold to not necessarily believe him, excuse me for questioning the guy that blamed his KO loss on the outfit he wore walking to the ring.
To be honest I dont know where the depression things come from. May just be people trying to explain why Deontay has completely vanished. I cant see Fury/Wilder 3 happening, Furys side are acting like it is but I think it's a case of being seen to be fulfilling their contractual obligation. In reality I dont think Wilder wants it and as you say, the money isn't there right now because of Covid anyway.
I'm sure the money is not there to have it at a Casino in America but remember what Arum was saying in June

June
But Arum moved to play down fears from some fans that the fight is destined for the Middle East, insisting all options remain on the table.
“America I would never rule out as the venue because the gates are huge and the pay-per-views are huge,” added the veteran Top Rank promoter.

“But it doesn’t necessarily have to be in America. It doesn’t necessarily have to be in the UK or Europe or the Middle East.

“Everything is subject to working out.”
August
While fans yearn for a heavyweight battle of Britain unification bout with Anthony Joshua, Fury finds himself contractually obliged to take on Wilder once again.

It was initially set to take place at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on July 18 - but the coronavirus pandemic put paid to that.

New plans have been drawn up to get the fight on before the end of 2020 - at the same venue on December 19.

But now, Fury's veteran promoter Arum, speaking to Sirius XM, has admitted the fight could be moved all the way back to next February if no crowd could be permitted before the end of the year.
I hope they dont drag this out for another 6 months.

Having said that I can't see Fury/Joshua happening in the first half of 2021 so dont suppose it makes much difference.
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New Guy 2 wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:58 pm I hope they dont drag this out for another 6 months.

Having said that I can't see Fury/Joshua happening in the first half of 2021 so dont suppose it makes much difference.
America vaccinated up and ready to go by February. Pushing it
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Mike Tyson versus Roy Jones Junior III.

I really hope this fight doesn't happen.
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Tehui wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:38 am Mike Tyson versus Roy Jones Junior III.

I really hope this fight doesn't happen.
It is a circus sideshow.

Especially with Loma v Lopez coming up.
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Tehui wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:38 am Mike Tyson versus Roy Jones Junior III.

I really hope this fight doesn't happen.
Whilst I don't want to see any 50+ year old former greats step in the ring again this is a terrible mismatch. Jones was a natural middleweight and after the second Tarver fight he was ko'ed by every decent fighter he fought. Tyson will destroy him. A terrible match.
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booji boy wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:05 am
Tehui wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:38 am Mike Tyson versus Roy Jones Junior III.

I really hope this fight doesn't happen.
Whilst I don't want to see any 50+ year old former greats step in the ring again this is a terrible mismatch. Jones was a natural middleweight and after the second Tarver fight he was ko'ed by every decent fighter he fought. Tyson will destroy him. A terrible match.
Jones has been fighting at cruiserweight for over a decade. Between 2011 and 2018 he had 13 fights winning all but one of them. They were low level and he was WBU cruiserweight champion but he is not that far removed from taking punches and training for 12 round fights. He has only had two years of inactivity where as Tyson has been retired since 2005. Clips of Tyson on the pads throwing combinations for 3 or 4 seconds are not convincing for me. He is clearly in fantastic shape but it's not like having someone throwing punches back at you. No videos of either of them sparring BTW. Makes you wonder
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Yeah Tyson looking great throwing combinations on the pads looks impressive but of course it does. Even at 54 he will still be a fast, skillful, powerful athlete. But that doesn't mean he is anywhere near the fighter he was in his prime and would be very different against another boxer actually punching back. One need only look back at his final few fights to see how much he had declined by 2005. I still think he will knock Jones out the first time he lands a punch though.
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I agree BB. RJJ is one of my fav fighters but he shouldn't be getting in the ring with Tyson. RJJ's KO at the hands of Enzo Maccanelli should be enough to convince anyone RJJ doesn't belong in a ring with any former professional heavyweight again. Not even with 20oz gloves and headgear in a shortened fight.
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Kahu wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:22 pm I agree BB. RJJ is one of my fav fighters but he shouldn't be getting in the ring with Tyson. RJJ's KO at the hands of Enzo Maccanelli should be enough to convince anyone RJJ doesn't belong in a ring with any former professional heavyweight again. Not even with 20oz gloves and headgear in a shortened fight.
Yep, Big Mac got him in the 4th. It was a very heavy KO.
https://youtu.be/dc2oImy8MpA?t=116

BM fought once more (a loss) before retiring, but RJJ surprisingly fought 4 more times (all wins) in 2 years just in the US before calling it a day.
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With the benefit of supreme hindsight, RJJ should have retired after he beat John Ruiz. The guy was the P4P kind ahead of Floyd Mayweather during the late 90s. Watching RJJ's old fights at middleweight, is like watching a blur. I hate watching a true all time great get knocked out by relative bums during the back end of his boxing career.
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Tehui wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:58 am With the benefit of supreme hindsight, RJJ should have retired after he beat John Ruiz. The guy was the P4P kind ahead of Floyd Mayweather during the late 90s. Watching RJJ's old fights at middleweight, is like watching a blur. I hate watching a true all time great get knocked out by relative bums during the back end of his boxing career.
Yeah agree with that. If he'd retired after that fight he'd be revered as the undisputed pound for pound greatest of all time. A truly great fighter who won titles from middleweight to heavyweight and dominated the lower divisions he fought in. To achieve that feat in an era where heavyweights are giant behemoths weighing 220+ is truly incredible. Fighters from middleweight tried to win the heavyweight title last century but the heavyweight champs back then only weighed 190-200.

But given he has continued to fight so long I guess he needs the money. :(
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booji boy wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:23 am
Tehui wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:58 am With the benefit of supreme hindsight, RJJ should have retired after he beat John Ruiz. The guy was the P4P kind ahead of Floyd Mayweather during the late 90s. Watching RJJ's old fights at middleweight, is like watching a blur. I hate watching a true all time great get knocked out by relative bums during the back end of his boxing career.
Yeah agree with that. If he'd retired after that fight he'd be revered as the undisputed pound for pound greatest of all time. A truly great fighter who won titles from middleweight to heavyweight and dominated the lower divisions he fought in. To achieve that feat in an era where heavyweights are giant behemoths weighing 220+ is truly incredible. Fighters from middleweight tried to win the heavyweight title last century but the heavyweight champs back then only weighed 190-200.

But given he has continued to fight so long I guess he needs the money. :(
Either he needs the money, or he has no other challenges in life to motivate him.
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booji boy wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:23 am
Tehui wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:58 am With the benefit of supreme hindsight, RJJ should have retired after he beat John Ruiz. The guy was the P4P kind ahead of Floyd Mayweather during the late 90s. Watching RJJ's old fights at middleweight, is like watching a blur. I hate watching a true all time great get knocked out by relative bums during the back end of his boxing career.
Yeah agree with that. If he'd retired after that fight he'd be revered as the undisputed pound for pound greatest of all time. A truly great fighter who won titles from middleweight to heavyweight and dominated the lower divisions he fought in. To achieve that feat in an era where heavyweights are giant behemoths weighing 220+ is truly incredible. Fighters from middleweight tried to win the heavyweight title last century but the heavyweight champs back then only weighed 190-200.

But given he has continued to fight so long I guess he needs the money. :(
Well of course he needs money. That's all the boxing business is for. It's not like it's a sport where we match up the best fighters against one another based on that's who is best versus who is marketable and protecting those guys by matchmaking opponents.

Jones has had a remarkable contrasting two careers in boxing, probably most so since George Foreman. There's the undisputable king era, followed by the after. The after has been incredibly busy though where he's fought a bunch but no one in the media pays attention to it. Former champions used to do this but you have to go back a long time in boxing history. If you take the "done at the top level" as having begun after his 2nd loss to Tarver, he's gone 17-5 the past 15 years.

Jones via KO.
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Flyin Ryan wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:05 pm
booji boy wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:23 am
Tehui wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:58 am With the benefit of supreme hindsight, RJJ should have retired after he beat John Ruiz. The guy was the P4P kind ahead of Floyd Mayweather during the late 90s. Watching RJJ's old fights at middleweight, is like watching a blur. I hate watching a true all time great get knocked out by relative bums during the back end of his boxing career.
Yeah agree with that. If he'd retired after that fight he'd be revered as the undisputed pound for pound greatest of all time. A truly great fighter who won titles from middleweight to heavyweight and dominated the lower divisions he fought in. To achieve that feat in an era where heavyweights are giant behemoths weighing 220+ is truly incredible. Fighters from middleweight tried to win the heavyweight title last century but the heavyweight champs back then only weighed 190-200.

But given he has continued to fight so long I guess he needs the money. :(
Well of course he needs money. That's all the boxing business is for. It's not like it's a sport where we match up the best fighters against one another based on that's who is best versus who is marketable and protecting those guys by matchmaking opponents.

Jones has had a remarkable contrasting two careers in boxing, probably most so since George Foreman. There's the undisputable king era, followed by the after. The after has been incredibly busy though where he's fought a bunch but no one in the media pays attention to it. Former champions used to do this but you have to go back a long time in boxing history. If you take the "done at the top level" as having begun after his 2nd loss to Tarver, he's gone 17-5 the past 15 years.

Jones via KO.
Pretty sure Jones is skint and that is probably why he kept fighting for so long. If these two go at it for real and a 54 year old who has been retired for 15 years is still on his feet at the end of 4 rounds it would be amazing. Stoppage one way or the other.
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