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Malahide Mullet wrote:
waguser wrote:You'd be pretty f**ked off if someone came in and took your child into care based upon the fact that she was blonde and neither of you were. Despite having a passport.

This is what happens when you let fascists like Fine Gael and their Labour puppets run a country.


Going around stealing children.
Damn right. Zanu-FF would only steal their money and futures :thumbup:
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Sandstorm wrote:
pjm1 wrote:We had some "travellers" (aka gyppo skanks) turn up fairly near us earlier in the year. Probably about a dozen cars and mostly brand new caravans. Two of the cars were f**king brand new RR Evoques.

Obviously some good money to be made out of abduction...
Those cars were likely stolen, not bought.

Yeah!! And all black people like fried chicken
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Malahide Mullet wrote:
waguser wrote:You'd be pretty f**ked off if someone came in and took your child into care based upon the fact that she was blonde and neither of you were. Despite having a passport.

This is what happens when you let fascists like Fine Gael and their Labour puppets run a country.


Going around stealing children.
:lol: :lol:
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HighKingLeinster wrote:
ID2 wrote:Pavee Point straight on the case, taking to the airwaves to tell us how misunderstood the Roma are
f**king joke of an organization. All over the airwaves if you call some scumbag a knacker but then thundering silence when knackers pillage the countryside attacking elderly pensioners or race their knackwagons down main roads
Are you for real
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Anonymous. wrote:
HighKingLeinster wrote:
ID2 wrote:Pavee Point straight on the case, taking to the airwaves to tell us how misunderstood the Roma are
f**king joke of an organization. All over the airwaves if you call some scumbag a knacker but then thundering silence when knackers pillage the countryside attacking elderly pensioners or race their knackwagons down main roads
Are you for real
Yes why? Pavee Point will scream to high heaven about any perceived slight against Travellers but you wont hear a word from them when knackers commit crimes like burglary, Rhino smuggling, drunken brawling outside of schools, racing horse drawn carts down national roads to name but a few of their many regular offences (or cultural traits according to Pavee Point)
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Leading Edge wrote:
hotdog wrote:Is anyone else getting the feeling that the McCann case is going to be solved quite soon?

I've got that feeling
This girl is 7.

Madeleine would be 10.

Child/sex traffickers should be executed in public.
Sorry, I didn't mean that this girl could be Madeleine. I just think a breakthrough will come from this recent investigation and the response it is getting. The exposure is huge and now everyone is being far more vigilant....hence these Roma child snatchers (allegedly) being exposed. Fingers crossed
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Malahide Mullet wrote:
Sandstorm wrote:
pjm1 wrote:We had some "travellers" (aka gyppo skanks) turn up fairly near us earlier in the year. Probably about a dozen cars and mostly brand new caravans. Two of the cars were f**king brand new RR Evoques.

Obviously some good money to be made out of abduction...
Those cars were likely stolen, not bought.

Yeah!! And all black people like fried chicken
Go tend to your spuds, Paddy
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Psychologist wrote:
waguser wrote: Still obviously where there is any doubt taking into emergency care is the best thing.
How much doubt is necessary, in your opinion, for the Police to take children away from their parents without their consent?
There was obviously a lot of doubt, its very rare for children to be taken away from their parents here, too rare probably
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Sandstorm wrote:
Malahide Mullet wrote:
Sandstorm wrote:
pjm1 wrote:We had some "travellers" (aka gyppo skanks) turn up fairly near us earlier in the year. Probably about a dozen cars and mostly brand new caravans. Two of the cars were f**king brand new RR Evoques.

Obviously some good money to be made out of abduction...
Those cars were likely stolen, not bought.

Yeah!! And all black people like fried chicken
Go tend to your spuds, Paddy
We have genetically modified our spuds to behave like tumblweed so the prevailing east wind means they all collect in the corner of the field,hence loads of time for d'internet.
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Sandstorm wrote:
Malahide Mullet wrote:
Sandstorm wrote:
pjm1 wrote:We had some "travellers" (aka gyppo skanks) turn up fairly near us earlier in the year. Probably about a dozen cars and mostly brand new caravans. Two of the cars were f**king brand new RR Evoques.

Obviously some good money to be made out of abduction...
Those cars were likely stolen, not bought.

Yeah!! And all black people like fried chicken
Go tend to your spuds, Paddy

I would but some English man raped them all and then built a railway
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:lol:
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Malahide Mullet wrote:
Sandstorm wrote:
Malahide Mullet wrote:
Sandstorm wrote:
pjm1 wrote:We had some "travellers" (aka gyppo skanks) turn up fairly near us earlier in the year. Probably about a dozen cars and mostly brand new caravans. Two of the cars were f**king brand new RR Evoques.

Obviously some good money to be made out of abduction...
Those cars were likely stolen, not bought.

Yeah!! And all black people like fried chicken
Go tend to your spuds, Paddy

I would but some English man raped them all and then built a railway
:lol: :lol:

Seen the film?

Dances with Rabbits
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HighKingLeinster wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
HighKingLeinster wrote:
ID2 wrote:Pavee Point straight on the case, taking to the airwaves to tell us how misunderstood the Roma are
f**king joke of an organization. All over the airwaves if you call some scumbag a knacker but then thundering silence when knackers pillage the countryside attacking elderly pensioners or race their knackwagons down main roads
Are you for real
Yes why? Pavee Point will scream to high heaven about any perceived slight against Travellers but you wont hear a word from them when knackers commit crimes like burglary, Rhino smuggling, drunken brawling outside of schools, racing horse drawn carts down national roads to name but a few of their many regular offences (or cultural traits according to Pavee Point)
Look, Pavee Point are essentially in the lobbying business. You expect wall-to-wall press releases, photo ops and soundbites-a-go-go when it's a piece they want to get out there, and the sound of silence when it isn't.

That's not their fault. They do what they do - and they do it well. Want to have a pop? Then have a pop at the media, who are only too happy to slavishly jump all over their press releases, providing reportage and sometimes op-ed pieces - both pro/con; yet fail to deliver proper 'journalism'.

Same goes for media 'relations' with other lobbying groups other than PP BTW. The quality of what passes for Irish journalism is pretty appaling, considering we're a nation who supposedly put great store in the written and spoken word.

Less so in truth, or so it would appear, especially when they are inconvenient truths.
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I will collate all the apologies from posters on here and pass them on to the family no fee
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There's DNA tests being carried out on a second child from Athlone, although he's been returned to his family
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EverReady wrote:I will collate all the apologies from posters on here and pass them on to the family no fee
Not from me buddy. :smug:
There would be a certain irony when it turns out the Dublin girl is really their kid all along. Worryingly, abductions of little blonde girls by gypsies is the prefect catalyst for tabloid led bigotry.
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Malahide Mullet wrote:
Sandstorm wrote: Go tend to your spuds, Paddy
I would but some English man raped them all and then built a railway
:lol: :lol:

nutter..
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Looks like it's actually their baby - major lawsuit ahead
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Uh oh

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/co ... 94850.html
DNA test proves girl (7) belongs to Roma family



Members of the Roma community support the family of the child who was taken into care.

23 October 2013
DNA tests have proved the seven-year-old girl taken from a Roma family in Tallaght on Monday is their daughter.
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The girl was dramatically removed from a Roma family's home in Tallaght, Dublin, on Monday after a tip-off to gardai that she did not look like the rest of the family.

The child, who spent two nights in the care of the HSE, will now be reunited with her family.

Tests conducted this afternoon confirmed that she is the biological daughter of the Roma couple with whom she had been living.

The Roma family, who said that she was born in the Coombe Hospital in Dublin in April 2006, have now been vindicated.

An 18-year-old sister of the girl said today her sibling has been "very traumatised" by the experience.

Speaking to reporters before the DNA results were revealed, the teenager said: "She is very traumatised and very confused as well.”

“There was about 20 gardai in here (their house) and social workers. They took her just because she has blue eyes and blonde hair. If you go over to Romania, people - most of them - have blue eyes as well."

Others said the girl - who was physically well at the time of being placed into care - was not the only member of the family with blonde hair.

The Roma couple gave their consent to DNA tests being carried out last night.

They were taken to a garda station where they gave samples through mouth swabs.

The girl was also tested in the presence of HSE officials.

The results were sent immediately to the forensic laboratory at garda headquarters before the results revealed that the girl was related to the Roma family today.

The girl was taken from the house in Tallaght, in south Dublin, on Monday afternoon and placed in the care of the HSE.

The girl's sister said she belonged in the Tallaght house and had been living with them since the day she was born in 2006.

She said the girl attended a local school and had been watching TV on Monday afternoon when around a dozen garda officers and HSE officials arrived.

"Everybody was shocked, even all the children in the house," said a brother-in-law of the young girl.

"She didn't want to go with them. She was asking us, 'Why? Why they take me?"

Gardai visited the house after they received a claim from a TV3 journalist - via the public - that the seven-year-old girl was not the householders' daughter.

The journalist was given the information about the girl, who is blonde and has blue eyes, on Facebook.

During a two-hour visit to the house, officers interviewed the two adults about the girl and sought proof that she was their daughter.

They had concerns about the child's identity, and as a result of the interview and their attempts to check out the information given by the adults, they decided after two hours to use emergency powers contained in section 12 of the Child Care Act to take the girl from the family and hand her into the care of the HSE overnight.

The family produced a passport for the girl, but the photo used was of a small child and could not be immediately matched with the girl.

Gardai were also told by the family, who have other children, that the girl was born at the Coombe Hospital in 2006, but preliminary checks could not confirm that.

However, an independent examination by the Irish Independent of the Coombe records yesterday showed that the woman had given birth to a daughter on the day she mentioned in 2006.

At the time of the birth, the parents of the infant did not live in Tallaght, but had another address in Dublin. They have been residing in Tallaght for several years.

The child's first name on the birth record differed from the name used by the girl, but it was accepted that this was not unusual.

Gardai said last night that plans to carry out a more detailed interview with the Roma couple were being put on hold, pending the DNA results.

The garda investigation was launched after another Roma couple, accused of abducting 'Maria', a four-year girl with blond hair and blue eyes, told a Greek court that the child's biological mother had given her to them as a baby because she could not look after her.

DNA tests showed that 'Maria' was not born to the couple, who were arrested after police raided a Roma camp in search of drugs and weapons and found the girl.
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A lot of hand wringing, teeth gnashing, cries of RACIST! and litigation is going to follow.
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Poor child, that was like getting a golden ticket with the chance of getting away from that life of filth.
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Ridiculous stuff really. Apparently the Gardai have to believe the child is in imminent danger in order to take them from the family without a court order. Apparently here there was little or nothing to suggest the child was in danger.
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Boobs not Moobs wrote:A lot of hand wringing, teeth gnashing, cries of RACIST! and litigation is going to follow.
Like I've said: I wouldn't want them as neighbours, but there was an element of this:

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danthefan wrote:Ridiculous stuff really. Apparently the Gardai have to believe the child is in imminent danger in order to take them from the family without a court order. Apparently here there was little or nothing to suggest the child was in danger.
They were not about to bake her in clay?
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Blackrock Bullet wrote:Poor child, that was like getting a golden ticket with the chance of getting away from that life of filth.
I'm not sure what else the authorities could have done, given that there were discrepancies in the paperwork.

No doubt some bottom feeding 'no foal/no fee' lawyer will attempt to sue the state on their behalf.
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danthefan wrote:Ridiculous stuff really. Apparently the Gardai have to believe the child is in imminent danger in order to take them from the family without a court order. Apparently here there was little or nothing to suggest the child was in danger.
I would suggest that if that if she had been a 'snatched' child, the authorities would have been remiss to leave her in the care of the 'snatchers'. A case of damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

As it was the child has been removed for one day, and the entire business resolved extremely efficiently.
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Blackrock Bullet wrote:Poor child, that was like getting a golden ticket with the chance of getting away from that life of filth.
:lol:

Anyway, I'm sure pavee point will be getting lawyers and trying to sue the state for all they can, and of course cry to the media. Have some sympathy for the family, but it was the best course of action, and like cammy said, handled efficiently
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camroc1 wrote:
danthefan wrote:Ridiculous stuff really. Apparently the Gardai have to believe the child is in imminent danger in order to take them from the family without a court order. Apparently here there was little or nothing to suggest the child was in danger.
I would suggest that if that if she had been a 'snatched' child, the authorities would have been remiss to leave her in the care of the 'snatchers'. A case of damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

As it was the child has been removed for one day, and the entire business resolved extremely efficiently.
She wasn't snatched though and I don't think there was a single piece of evidence that suggested she had been, other than her hair colour. Watertight stuff that.
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danthefan wrote:Ridiculous stuff really. Apparently the Gardai have to believe the child is in imminent danger in order to take them from the family without a court order. Apparently here there was little or nothing to suggest the child was in danger.
Eh she was with gypos
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danthefan wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
danthefan wrote:Ridiculous stuff really. Apparently the Gardai have to believe the child is in imminent danger in order to take them from the family without a court order. Apparently here there was little or nothing to suggest the child was in danger.
I would suggest that if that if she had been a 'snatched' child, the authorities would have been remiss to leave her in the care of the 'snatchers'. A case of damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

As it was the child has been removed for one day, and the entire business resolved extremely efficiently.
She wasn't snatched though and I don't think there was a single piece of evidence that suggested she had been, other than her hair colour. Watertight stuff that.
No birth cert, no accurate account of her birth, no recent passport photo, family "known" to gardai, I'd say they acted correctly pending a DNA test - actually quite refreshing to see state agencies putting the safety of the child at the top of the list for once.
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hotdog wrote:
Leading Edge wrote:
hotdog wrote:Is anyone else getting the feeling that the McCann case is going to be solved quite soon?

I've got that feeling
This girl is 7.

Madeleine would be 10.

Child/sex traffickers should be executed in public.
Sorry, I didn't mean that this girl could be Madeleine. I just think a breakthrough will come from this recent investigation and the response it is getting. The exposure is huge and now everyone is being far more vigilant....hence these Roma child snatchers (allegedly) being exposed. Fingers crossed
She's near enough. They should give her to the McCanns. It might stop them whining about the one they misplaced.
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springtide wrote:
Boobs not Moobs wrote:A lot of hand wringing, teeth gnashing, cries of RACIST! and litigation is going to follow.
Like I've said: I wouldn't want them as neighbours, but there was an element of this:

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To be fair we could do with a bit more of this regarding their organised begging in the city and their use of very young children as sympathy ploys.
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Malahide Mullet wrote:
danthefan wrote:Ridiculous stuff really. Apparently the Gardai have to believe the child is in imminent danger in order to take them from the family without a court order. Apparently here there was little or nothing to suggest the child was in danger.
Eh she was with gypos
She is a gypo.


Sorry lads, just not mad on the state going around stealing children.
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Duff Paddy wrote:
springtide wrote:
Boobs not Moobs wrote:A lot of hand wringing, teeth gnashing, cries of RACIST! and litigation is going to follow.
Like I've said: I wouldn't want them as neighbours, but there was an element of this:

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To be fair we could do with a bit more of this regarding their organised begging in the city and their use of very young children as sympathy ploys.
And the fucker playing the accordian on the tube the other night.
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ScarfaceClaw wrote:
hotdog wrote:
Leading Edge wrote:
hotdog wrote:Is anyone else getting the feeling that the McCann case is going to be solved quite soon?

I've got that feeling
This girl is 7.

Madeleine would be 10.

Child/sex traffickers should be executed in public.
Sorry, I didn't mean that this girl could be Madeleine. I just think a breakthrough will come from this recent investigation and the response it is getting. The exposure is huge and now everyone is being far more vigilant....hence these Roma child snatchers (allegedly) being exposed. Fingers crossed
She's near enough. They should give her to the McCanns. It might stop them whining about the one they misplaced.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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danthefan wrote:

Sorry lads, just not mad on the state going around stealing children.
:lol:
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danthefan wrote:
Malahide Mullet wrote:
danthefan wrote:Ridiculous stuff really. Apparently the Gardai have to believe the child is in imminent danger in order to take them from the family without a court order. Apparently here there was little or nothing to suggest the child was in danger.
Eh she was with gypos
She is a gypo.


Sorry lads, just not mad on the state going around stealing children.
You voted FG, what did you expect.
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Duff Paddy wrote:
springtide wrote:
Boobs not Moobs wrote:A lot of hand wringing, teeth gnashing, cries of RACIST! and litigation is going to follow.
Like I've said: I wouldn't want them as neighbours, but there was an element of this:

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To be fair we could do with a bit more of this regarding their organised begging in the city and their use of very young children as sympathy ploys.
I first read this story on the journal and suffice to say, the pitchfork types were up in arms with their "round up all the gypsies" remarks. Take a look at the comments section!

Actually, regarding comments on news sites nowadays: with the advent of facebook plugins and links to users' twitter pages; it's amazing how comfortable so many are with spewing their obnoxious bile all over the interweb, given how readily identifiable they happen to be.
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Did I just see a banner on Sky to say DNA show's she is the daughter? Or was it a different case???
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Snooze wrote:Did I just see a banner on Sky to say DNA show's she is the daughter? Or was it a different case???
Yes.
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