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Great, thanks Kid A.
Just go ahead and tell me the ending and how unrealistic it is, cheers.
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Floppykid wrote:Great, thanks Kid A.
Just go ahead and tell me the ending and how unrealistic it is, cheers.

Eh?
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Kid A wrote:
Inch high hogs eye wrote:
Kid A wrote:
Inch high hogs eye wrote:
Maybe relatable would be a better word - this stuff isn’t exactly cinema verité is it. You picked out Kim as being the key character for you but I find her one of the less well drawn. I’m not saying BB is without its faults either - the female characters across the board aren’t that strong.
Why do you want Kim to be relatable? I don't understand sorry. This is a world where a chemistry teacher used a finger sized crystal of Mercury fulminate to blow up a drug kingpin's headquarters - and you want a lawyer to be more relatable?
At the end of the day nothing in BCS touches the Walter White character arc or Cranston’s portrayal - wouldn’t you agree?
Yes I agree. Characters arcs have zero relevance to how good or bad a show is though.
Sorry, but a character who becomes a lawyer and goes balls out to get a bank as her main client - but then gets all conflicted when she’s asked to the banky eviction things is just fücking wank. Walter blowing up shit is cool as...
A 73 year old man single handedly beat up a gang of dangerous thugs too. But that's cool so we'll let it slide.
Except I didn’t let it slide, I pointed out that as one of the show’s weaknesses.
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Inch high hogs eye wrote:
Except I didn’t let it slide, I pointed out that as one of the show’s weaknesses.
Fair enough. I'm going to keep watching. It's excellent.
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Kid A wrote:
Inch high hogs eye wrote:
Except I didn’t let it slide, I pointed out that as one of the show’s weaknesses.
Fair enough. I'm going to keep watching. It's excellent.
:thumbup: I’m hoping the next series will be the strongest to be fair...
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Winnie wrote:
anonymous_joe wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
anonymous_joe wrote:
Floppykid wrote:I'm still of the view TD season 1 is the best since the Sopranos (I prefer it to the Sopranos).
Yeah, but that's because of how fúcking mental it is.

It's much tropier than the Sopranos, the Wire, etc, but plays around with that quite cleverly.

Without going to wanky, it's the kind of tropey buddy-cop programme that could only have been made after the tropes had been deconstructed so thoroughly by things like the Wire and Sopranos.

Thrown in a great director, great actors and Pizzolato before he went a bit silly and it was the perfect storm.
Season 1 of true detective is brilliant to be fair but the sopranos is on a different level in terms of production - the level of planning in the sopranos is unreal, there is just so many subtle touches that most people are completely oblivious to - the podcast is great for explaining a lot of it. Everything in the sopranos was planned to the smallest details - it really was an amazing piece of work.
The Sopranos is superb. It's major weaknesses are visual tbh, nothing comes even close to the robbery scene from True Detective, which is some of the best TV work of all time.

Story-wise there's enormous depth and subtlety to the Sopranos that few have ever come close to since. It's also aged surprisingly well for a programme that's in parts more than 20 years old at this point.
I can think of a better scene in True Detective
Which?

Floppy, re Kim:-
Spoiler: show
She's somebody who made it to the top - or at least to the beginning of the top - and wasn't entirely satisfied. Seen plenty of people get like that.

Some form of fúcked up reaction isn't the norm, but it's not implausible. I suspect plenty of people in Dublin do work for the Kinahans, etc, without worrying where the money comes from. Plus being from a poor background in America, cheating the system wouldn't feel that immoral I presume.
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This is a good article on Kim's character in BCS. May contain spoilers:

https://www.vulture.com/2020/03/kim-wex ... -saul.html
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HKCJ wrote:I don’t really get the love for succession. Watched two episodes and gave up. Is it a slow burner like the Wire?
Possibly one you relate to or not. It’s obviously sensationalised. But I like that it doesn’t over simplify the characters
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Re watched every episode of The Shield over the last few months. Absolutely superb stuff.
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'I know this much is true' - HBO / Sky

This show is absolutely brilliant. One of the most moving, emotional TV shows I've seen for years. I'm 4 episodes in. Yes it's downbeat, but the Direction and acting is so impressive. I've enjoyed Cianfrance's films like Blue Valentine and The Place Beyond the Pines but he's ramped it up a notch here. Mark Ruffalo is absolutely superb.
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Kid A wrote:
Floppykid wrote:Great, thanks Kid A.
Just go ahead and tell me the ending and how unrealistic it is, cheers.

Eh?
You just revealed a bunch of huge end plot points from BB.

I did the same with BCS to an extent, so I'm not too annoyed, but still.
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anonymous_joe wrote:
Winnie wrote:
anonymous_joe wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
anonymous_joe wrote: Yeah, but that's because of how fúcking mental it is.

It's much tropier than the Sopranos, the Wire, etc, but plays around with that quite cleverly.

Without going to wanky, it's the kind of tropey buddy-cop programme that could only have been made after the tropes had been deconstructed so thoroughly by things like the Wire and Sopranos.

Thrown in a great director, great actors and Pizzolato before he went a bit silly and it was the perfect storm.
Season 1 of true detective is brilliant to be fair but the sopranos is on a different level in terms of production - the level of planning in the sopranos is unreal, there is just so many subtle touches that most people are completely oblivious to - the podcast is great for explaining a lot of it. Everything in the sopranos was planned to the smallest details - it really was an amazing piece of work.
The Sopranos is superb. It's major weaknesses are visual tbh, nothing comes even close to the robbery scene from True Detective, which is some of the best TV work of all time.

Story-wise there's enormous depth and subtlety to the Sopranos that few have ever come close to since. It's also aged surprisingly well for a programme that's in parts more than 20 years old at this point.
I can think of a better scene in True Detective
Which?

Floppy, re Kim:-
Spoiler: show
She's somebody who made it to the top - or at least to the beginning of the top - and wasn't entirely satisfied. Seen plenty of people get like that.

Some form of fúcked up reaction isn't the norm, but it's not implausible. I suspect plenty of people in Dublin do work for the Kinahans, etc, without worrying where the money comes from. Plus being from a poor background in America, cheating the system wouldn't feel that immoral I presume.
That's convincing enough actually. If and when I rewatch I'll keep that in mind to see if things are still as galling.
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Floppykid wrote:
Kid A wrote:
Floppykid wrote:Great, thanks Kid A.
Just go ahead and tell me the ending and how unrealistic it is, cheers.

Eh?
You just revealed a bunch of huge end plot points from BB.
Which ones exactly? The show aired like 9 years ago!
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I can take a guess at who the 73 year old is.
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Floppykid wrote:I can take a guess at who the 73 year old is.
Yeah, what a spoiler that is. Show ruined.
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I know I'm late to the party but I've just watched the Last Dance
What a brilliant series could easily go back and watch it from the start again.
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Winnie wrote:I know I'm late to the party but I've just watched the Last Dance
What a brilliant series could easily go back and watch it from the start again.
I didn't think it was that good tbh.
It ran out of steam mid way through for me.
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Floppykid wrote:
Winnie wrote:I know I'm late to the party but I've just watched the Last Dance
What a brilliant series could easily go back and watch it from the start again.
I didn't think it was that good tbh.
It ran out of steam mid way through for me.
:lol: :lol:
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"...and then Mike got mad" the series.
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Been watching The People vs OJ Simpson, almost finished it. Didn't know much about the trial etc before hand so really enjoying it. Some good performances as well. Travolta seems nuts now :lol:
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BlackMac wrote:Re watched every episode of The Shield over the last few months. Absolutely superb stuff.

Funnily enough I’ve done the same as the missus hadn’t seen it. She can’t work out why I love Vic Mackey though.

“..but he kills people in cold blood”
“Yeah but only the bad guys”
“What about Lemmy”
“He had to. Besides, He loves his family”

Wait until we watch the Sopranos and she finds out I love Tony.
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Watched the new Perry Mason on sky Atlantic, early days yet but a bit meh.
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HKCJ wrote:
BlackMac wrote:Re watched every episode of The Shield over the last few months. Absolutely superb stuff.

Funnily enough I’ve done the same as the missus hadn’t seen it. She can’t work out why I love Vic Mackey though.

“..but he kills people in cold blood”
“Yeah but only the bad guys”
“What about Lemmy”
“He had to. Besides, He loves his family”

Wait until we watch the Sopranos and she finds out I love Tony.
Spoiler: show
he didn't kill Lem, though, Shane did. Maybe you mean Terry :nod:
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HKCJ wrote:
BlackMac wrote:Re watched every episode of The Shield over the last few months. Absolutely superb stuff.

Funnily enough I’ve done the same as the missus hadn’t seen it. She can’t work out why I love Vic Mackey though.

“..but he kills people in cold blood”
“Yeah but only the bad guys”
“What about Lemmy”
“He had to. Besides, He loves his family”

Wait until we watch the Sopranos and she finds out I love Tony.
I rewatched it all a few years back, it still holds up very well and they had some great casting. The ending was spot on as well.

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Gandolfini brought so much charm and introspection to such an ignorant violent brute.
Sad to think of what he could have done if he hadn't died so young.
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danny_fitz wrote:
HKCJ wrote:
BlackMac wrote:Re watched every episode of The Shield over the last few months. Absolutely superb stuff.

Funnily enough I’ve done the same as the missus hadn’t seen it. She can’t work out why I love Vic Mackey though.

“..but he kills people in cold blood”
“Yeah but only the bad guys”
“What about Lemmy”
“He had to. Besides, He loves his family”

Wait until we watch the Sopranos and she finds out I love Tony.
I rewatched it all a few years back, it still holds up very well and they had some great casting. The ending was spot on as well.

"Cleetus Van Damme"
I've likely mentioned this ad nauseam, but I never rated Breaking Bad that highly as I think The Shield did a lot if the stuff it did and earlier - especially the accelerated heading to the end where everything starts going crazy.

Interestingly I watched the pilot on network tv at 8:30 back with ads etc, and when they got to 'that' killing scene I was like WTF!!! I watched episodes here and there, but it wasn't until it was actually finished airing that I watched the whole thing.

The actor who played the 'good' beat cop is currently in jail for murdering his wife. :shock:
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Bit late to the party but I purchased a new Panasonic OLED TV last week and had been waiting to watch some decent 4K HDR content on it.

The Mandalorian, fantastic!
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Get over to YouTube before 28th June and check out The Globe's 2013 production of A Midsummer Night's Dream. It is f**king brilliant.
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The Man Without Fear wrote:Get over to YouTube before 28th June and check out The Globe's 2013 production of A Midsummer Night's Dream. It is f**king brilliant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hnkFGLVvzo#t=12s
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lorcanoworms wrote:Watched the new Perry Mason on sky Atlantic, early days yet but a bit meh.
The CGI is dreadful. Absolutely unwatchable :thumbdown:
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Sandstorm wrote:
lorcanoworms wrote:Watched the new Perry Mason on sky Atlantic, early days yet but a bit meh.
The CGI is dreadful. Absolutely unwatchable :thumbdown:
I saw the sky atlantic ads and it looks incredibly corny.

Is Luther a good watch?
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Floppykid wrote:
Sandstorm wrote:
lorcanoworms wrote:Watched the new Perry Mason on sky Atlantic, early days yet but a bit meh.
The CGI is dreadful. Absolutely unwatchable :thumbdown:
I saw the sky atlantic ads and it looks incredibly corny.

Is Luther a good watch?
Absolutely
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Not really tv but just watched Athlete A on Netflix. f**king hell.
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Been watching Season 31 of the Simpsons
It's quite funny again.
I have only watched a couple of episodes the last few years and gave up as they weren't any good but been enjoying this season again.
Bit weird that they all look the same after all these years.
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Floppykid wrote:Is Luther a good watch?
First couple of seasons are strong, then it jumps the shark massively
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Just watched the first episode of Jack Taylor on Neflicks. Recognised Mormont from GOT (Iain Glen) immediately. What I failed to recognise early on was the location. It was only when there was a scene near the harbour where it was pissing down with rain that I twigged and thought that's Galway!

Anyway, enjoyed the first episode, is it worth following on with?
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What We Do In The Shadows season 2 is up on I-player now. Picked up where it left off, lots of fun.
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Watched season 3 of the sinner over the weekend
What a great big smelly steaming pile of horsesh1t

Avoid like the plague
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Years later, I’m watching Altered Carbon. Onto season 2. No Ortega. This series can eat a bag of dicks.
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ScarfaceClaw wrote:Years later, I’m watching Altered Carbon. Onto season 2. No Ortega. This series can eat a bag of dicks.
That's one of the few things that they actually kept loyal to the source material. Season 2 was a complete mess as a result of catering changes they made to simplify season 1.
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