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Fat Old Git wrote:I have some sympathy for people who may be struggling to pack up their lives to return to NZ. Something they might have little choice about if they're not covered by the safety nets in their current location. Finding affordable flights home is probably difficult enough, without having to face another large bill on arrival. Even if they can borrow the money, many won't have much of an income when they get home. At least to start with.

I know several people in that situation.
I agree - knee-jerk politics
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Ted. wrote:


You've got to wonder when these shenanigans and resignations might start damaging the party and leadership image.

Labour aren't putting the boot in, that's for sure, so good on them for that.
Doubt it will tbh
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Ted. wrote:
RuggaBugga wrote:
Enzedder wrote:
Poor bugger - stress is a mighty hurdle when it starts to dominate

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Hardly an excuse for getting drunk and sending dick pics to a schoolgirl :uhoh:
You've got to wonder when these shenanigans and resignations might start damaging the party and leadership image.

Labour aren't putting the boot in, that's for sure, so good on them for that.
It was reported that he's suffering from a serious mental illness. So you would hope politics is kept out of it if there is possibility of that being true.
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Nationals policy seems a bit OTT

3k - 1st Adult
1k - other adults
500 - kids

So a couple with 2 kids is 5 grand, when they would probably be happy all crashing in the same bedroom for 2 weeks, with one kid on the couch in the lounge.
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Poked me head in for a gander and people are quoting Willie Jackson .... seriously What the big holy fudge ?
If you quote Willie you may as well quote Donald trump and Donald Duck and Donald bloody King

Willie Jackson ffs

FFS

Ima head out
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Fat Old Git wrote:
Ted. wrote:
RuggaBugga wrote:
Enzedder wrote:
Poor bugger - stress is a mighty hurdle when it starts to dominate

Image
Hardly an excuse for getting drunk and sending dick pics to a schoolgirl :uhoh:
You've got to wonder when these shenanigans and resignations might start damaging the party and leadership image.

Labour aren't putting the boot in, that's for sure, so good on them for that.
It was reported that he's suffering from a serious mental illness. So you would hope politics is kept out of it if there is possibility of that being true.
I would be interested to know how the journalist knew to ask about a letter sent to Ardern at her presser
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You've got to wonder when these shenanigans and resignations might start damaging the party and leadership image.
Farmers a plenty in my family. I can assure you it will always be two ticks blue...
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Hareaway wrote:Poked me head in for a gander and people are quoting Willie Jackson .... seriously What the big holy fudge ?
If you quote Willie you may as well quote Donald trump and Donald Duck and Donald bloody King

Willie Jackson ffs

FFS

Ima head out
His opinion is about as biased as yours though
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There's been a lot of 'mental illness' happening in the National Party recently. :roll:
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Hareaway wrote:Poked me head in for a gander and people are quoting Willie Jackson .... seriously What the big holy fudge ?
If you quote Willie you may as well quote Donald trump and Donald Duck and Donald bloody King

Willie Jackson ffs

FFS

Ima head out
This thread hasn't gone the way you expected has it. There you were 6 years ago putting the boot into David Cunliffe for the massive crime of under-reporting his status. Fast forward and the National Party is a crucible of arrogance, depravity, deceit, racism, backstabbing and failed egos.
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Enzedder wrote:
Hareaway wrote:Poked me head in for a gander and people are quoting Willie Jackson .... seriously What the big holy fudge ?
If you quote Willie you may as well quote Donald trump and Donald Duck and Donald bloody King

Willie Jackson ffs

FFS

Ima head out
His opinion is about as biased as yours though
😂 you quote Willie Jackson like a prophet ... ffs what a loon , stick to arguing on Facebook

Willie Jackson 😂😂
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Dark wrote:I would be interested to know how the journalist knew to ask about a letter sent to Ardern at her presser
Perhaps because Judith Collins didn't come clean someone decided to do it for her.
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Muttonbirds wrote:
Hareaway wrote:Poked me head in for a gander and people are quoting Willie Jackson .... seriously What the big holy fudge ?
If you quote Willie you may as well quote Donald trump and Donald Duck and Donald bloody King

Willie Jackson ffs

FFS

Ima head out
This thread hasn't gone the way you expected has it. There you were 6 years ago putting the boot into David Cunliffe for the massive crime of under-reporting his status. Fast forward and the National Party is a crucible of arrogance, depravity, deceit, racism, backstabbing and failed egos.
Kind of stones and glass houses comments there.

I think it just comes down to most people that get into NZ parliament politics seem to be a bit oddball.
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I am.glad that other political parties do not do this.
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Muttonbirds wrote:
Hareaway wrote:Poked me head in for a gander and people are quoting Willie Jackson .... seriously What the big holy fudge ?
If you quote Willie you may as well quote Donald trump and Donald Duck and Donald bloody King

Willie Jackson ffs

FFS

Ima head out
This thread hasn't gone the way you expected has it. There you were 6 years ago putting the boot into David Cunliffe for the massive crime of under-reporting his status. Fast forward and the National Party is a crucible of arrogance, depravity, deceit, racism, backstabbing and failed egos.

I only call Enz a loon as a slight insult ...but crikey I can see why you were perma banned
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Dark wrote:Nationals policy seems a bit OTT

3k - 1st Adult
1k - other adults
500 - kids

So a couple with 2 kids is 5 grand, when they would probably be happy all crashing in the same bedroom for 2 weeks, with one kid on the couch in the lounge.
I think that's pretty much in line with what the Aussies are doing. Not sure about kids but the figure I heard was $3k for 1 adult, $4k for a couple.
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Fat Old Git wrote:
Ted. wrote:
RuggaBugga wrote:
Enzedder wrote:
Poor bugger - stress is a mighty hurdle when it starts to dominate

Image
Hardly an excuse for getting drunk and sending dick pics to a schoolgirl :uhoh:
You've got to wonder when these shenanigans and resignations might start damaging the party and leadership image.

Labour aren't putting the boot in, that's for sure, so good on them for that.
It was reported that he's suffering from a serious mental illness. So you would hope politics is kept out of it if there is possibility of that being true.
Apparently 19 years old and he sent a "pornographic" image (ie not him), so not really a "schoolgirl" as breathlessly reported on the news earlier. It's pretty irresponsible to basically insinuate the guy is a paedo on one hand whilst reporting potential mental health issues on the other. It's pretty much the worst accusation you can level at a man and his the added danger of some vigilante hero setting out to fill him in.

Still not great obviously but could be anything from a distasteful whatsapp gif or and him telling her to fudge off as opposed to anything sexual.
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Muttonbirds wrote:There's been a lot of 'mental illness' happening in the National Party recently. :roll:
Odd comment from someone so overtly unstable though you were recently acting the cnut trolling Trogs health issues.
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Enzedder wrote:
TheDocForgotHisLogon wrote:
Ted. wrote:Winnie has hired the Brexit goons to enhance the party's election chances. i.e. pedal fake news and dirty politics.

I hope it backfires spectacularly.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politi ... t-campaign
He's not explained how that's funded. Even if it's free, it's a gift and needs declared.
To us? Or the electoral commission?
Electoral Commission. Otherwise donations could be hidden as in kind.
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TheDocForgotHisLogon wrote:
Enzedder wrote:
TheDocForgotHisLogon wrote:
Ted. wrote:Winnie has hired the Brexit goons to enhance the party's election chances. i.e. pedal fake news and dirty politics.

I hope it backfires spectacularly.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politi ... t-campaign
He's not explained how that's funded. Even if it's free, it's a gift and needs declared.
To us? Or the electoral commission?
Electoral Commission. Otherwise donations could be hidden as in kind.
Admittedly, I don't know a lot about political donations. But boy, it seems like there's a financial transparency mess every single election, and every party seems to be culpable.
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1 up to Ardern in the first parliamentary question-time face-off today.

Looks like Crusher has promised much and delivered little, a bit like when she tried to crush some boy-racer cars.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12349821
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....in other political/rugby related news....

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/122 ... ugby-match
Dr Ashley Bloomfield, All Black greats to play annual Parliamentary rugby match
Dr Ashley Bloomfield will be swapping his suit and tie for rugby boots and a mouth guard on Saturday.

The director-general of health is taking the field alongside former All Blacks for the 25th annual Parliamentary rugby match.

“I'm not sure how long I will last on the field,” he told media on Tuesday.

Bloomfield is on a team with Hutt City Mayor Campbell Barry​ and Greater Wellington Regional Council Councillor Thomas Nash​, as well as former All Blacks Stephen Bachop​ and Jason Eaton​. Norm Hewitt​ and Rodney So’oialo​ are co-captaining the squad.

Parliament’s Speaker Trevor Mallard​ is the team’s manager and rugby commentator Ken Laban​ is the waterboy, while former All Black captain Andy Leslie​ and player Earle Kirton​ are whipping the team into shape as coaches.

Bloomfield, who is yet to come up with his rugby moniker, said Laban set him up with his spot on the team.

“Well I think I've been set up by Ken Laban who's organised this because I said I'd have a short run on the wing and I've been listed at number seven.”

The health expert said it will be a privilege to be in a forward pack alongside rugby greats. But his opposition, which includes former health spokesperson for the Opposition Michael Woodhouse, also has a packed team.

National’s Mark Mitchell and Woodhouse will be joined by former All Black Piri Weepu​, his brother, former league player Billy Weepu​, and former Blues and Hurricanes player Ofisa Tonu’u​.

Health Minister Chris Hipkins wasn’t too worried about his health point man. He told media he thinks Bloomfield will be able to look after himself on the field.

Kickoff is at 2.30pm at the Wainuimoata Rugby Club.
Image Image

Team for the 25th anniversary game of the Parliamentary Rugby Team. Kick off 25th July against the Centurions team.
1. Mark Mitchell (cc)
2. Damien O’Connor (cc)
3. Alfred Ngaro
4. Michael Woodhouse
5. Michael Watson
6. Steve Dyhrberg
7. Elia Filipo
8. Richard Potton
9. Nathan Uriarau
10. Steve Bradshaw
11. Josh Galuszka
12. William Crowe
13. Barry Manning
14. Ged O’Connor
15. Mark Barker
16. Mark Mirlyaz
17. Jack Tarrant
18. Tamati Ellison
19. Billy Weepu
20. Piri Weepu
21. Delaney Edmonds
22. Nathan Riwai-Couch
23. Suzanne Yee
24. Ofisa Tonu’u
25. Anthony Ruakere
26. Hina Davis
27. Locky Lockington
28. Terry Tearikiau
29. Richard Ninniss
30. Dwayne Waterman
31. Dan Fuemana
32. Brad Cribb

Centurions squad to take on the NZPRT.

Ashley Bloomfield (Ministry of Health)
Mayor Cambell Barry (Hutt City Council)
Thomas Nash (Greater Wellington Regional Council)
Josh Briggs (Hutt City Council)
Norm Hewitt (Co-Captain All Blacks)
Rodney So’oialo (Co-Captain All Blacks)
Steve Bachop (All Blacks)
Jason Eaton (All Blacks)
Paul Whatuira (Kiwis)
Fafili Levave (Manu Samoa)
Faatonu Fili (Manu Samoa)
Loku Lokatui (Tonga)
Inoke Afeaki (Tonga)
Ace Tiatia (Crusaders)
Luke Mahoney (Hurricanes)
JP Tocker (MSP)
Alec Leala (Wainuiomata)
Arnold Lomax (Wainuiomata)
Mitch Price (Wainuiomata)
Richard Watt (Poneke)
Paul Rolton (Stokes Valley)
Tui Bradbrook (Petone)
Wayne Gurdler (Wainuiomata)
Yogi Rogers (Wainuiomata)
Coach: Andy Leslie, Earl Kirton
Waterboy: Ken Laban
Manager: Rt Hon Trevor Mallard
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This nanny shit is getting a bit out of hand ..

It’s all over social media , with nothing to back it up .

Feel a bit sorry for the first fisherman tbf
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Calling all the National wairarapa fanboys. Judy is at the Carterton events centre this week, to support Ali Scott’s replacement...
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A 65 year old colleague heard the rumour in a Christchurch hairdressers today. She was all a flutter telling the story about the nanny’s situation and them now living together on Waiheke Island.
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kiweez wrote:....in other political/rugby related news....

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/122 ... ugby-match
Dr Ashley Bloomfield, All Black greats to play annual Parliamentary rugby match
Dr Ashley Bloomfield will be swapping his suit and tie for rugby boots and a mouth guard on Saturday.

The director-general of health is taking the field alongside former All Blacks for the 25th annual Parliamentary rugby match.

“I'm not sure how long I will last on the field,” he told media on Tuesday.

Bloomfield is on a team with Hutt City Mayor Campbell Barry​ and Greater Wellington Regional Council Councillor Thomas Nash​, as well as former All Blacks Stephen Bachop​ and Jason Eaton​. Norm Hewitt​ and Rodney So’oialo​ are co-captaining the squad.

Parliament’s Speaker Trevor Mallard​ is the team’s manager and rugby commentator Ken Laban​ is the waterboy, while former All Black captain Andy Leslie​ and player Earle Kirton​ are whipping the team into shape as coaches.

Bloomfield, who is yet to come up with his rugby moniker, said Laban set him up with his spot on the team.

“Well I think I've been set up by Ken Laban who's organised this because I said I'd have a short run on the wing and I've been listed at number seven.”

The health expert said it will be a privilege to be in a forward pack alongside rugby greats. But his opposition, which includes former health spokesperson for the Opposition Michael Woodhouse, also has a packed team.

National’s Mark Mitchell and Woodhouse will be joined by former All Black Piri Weepu​, his brother, former league player Billy Weepu​, and former Blues and Hurricanes player Ofisa Tonu’u​.

Health Minister Chris Hipkins wasn’t too worried about his health point man. He told media he thinks Bloomfield will be able to look after himself on the field.

Kickoff is at 2.30pm at the Wainuimoata Rugby Club.
Image Image

Team for the 25th anniversary game of the Parliamentary Rugby Team. Kick off 25th July against the Centurions team.
1. Mark Mitchell (cc)
2. Damien O’Connor (cc)
3. Alfred Ngaro
4. Michael Woodhouse
5. Michael Watson
6. Steve Dyhrberg
7. Elia Filipo
8. Richard Potton
9. Nathan Uriarau
10. Steve Bradshaw
11. Josh Galuszka
12. William Crowe
13. Barry Manning
14. Ged O’Connor
15. Mark Barker
16. Mark Mirlyaz
17. Jack Tarrant
18. Tamati Ellison
19. Billy Weepu
20. Piri Weepu
21. Delaney Edmonds
22. Nathan Riwai-Couch
23. Suzanne Yee
24. Ofisa Tonu’u
25. Anthony Ruakere
26. Hina Davis
27. Locky Lockington
28. Terry Tearikiau
29. Richard Ninniss
30. Dwayne Waterman
31. Dan Fuemana
32. Brad Cribb

Centurions squad to take on the NZPRT.

Ashley Bloomfield (Ministry of Health)
Mayor Cambell Barry (Hutt City Council)
Thomas Nash (Greater Wellington Regional Council)
Josh Briggs (Hutt City Council)
Norm Hewitt (Co-Captain All Blacks)
Rodney So’oialo (Co-Captain All Blacks)
Steve Bachop (All Blacks)
Jason Eaton (All Blacks)
Paul Whatuira (Kiwis)
Fafili Levave (Manu Samoa)
Faatonu Fili (Manu Samoa)
Loku Lokatui (Tonga)
Inoke Afeaki (Tonga)
Ace Tiatia (Crusaders)
Luke Mahoney (Hurricanes)
JP Tocker (MSP)
Alec Leala (Wainuiomata)
Arnold Lomax (Wainuiomata)
Mitch Price (Wainuiomata)
Richard Watt (Poneke)
Paul Rolton (Stokes Valley)
Tui Bradbrook (Petone)
Wayne Gurdler (Wainuiomata)
Yogi Rogers (Wainuiomata)
Coach: Andy Leslie, Earl Kirton
Waterboy: Ken Laban
Manager: Rt Hon Trevor Mallard
Is there anything this man can't do?
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Hareaway wrote:This nanny shit is getting a bit out of hand ..

It’s all over social media , with nothing to back it up .

Feel a bit sorry for the first fisherman tbf

Fkn funny. It’s been doing the rounds since early this month and nothing out in they mainstream which probably means it’s bs.
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Begbie wrote:
Hareaway wrote:This nanny shit is getting a bit out of hand ..

It’s all over social media , with nothing to back it up .

Feel a bit sorry for the first fisherman tbf

Fkn funny. It’s been doing the rounds since early this month and nothing out in they mainstream which probably means it’s bs.
Doesn't mean anything, politicians and their families shagging round has 9 out of 10 always been under the radar.

The media don't what to screw with their sources.
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Fantastic - Is Covid testing turning into the next KiwiBuild and CGT promise.
Covid-19 testing criteria back in question as community tests drop to 8 over weekend

Just eight Covid-19 tests of people in the community were processed Sunday, prompting the government to look at whether to loosen testing criteria.

Health Minister Chris Hipkins has said he wants an average of 4000 tests a day to make sure the disease has not resurfaced anywhere.

The latest figures from Sunday show there were 681 tests - but 673 of them were of people in isolation hotels, meaning tests from just eight people in the community were processed.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said that was not good enough, even taking the normally slower weekend rates into account.

Yesterday, Cabinet discussed whether the testing criteria needed to change, she said.

"We've set down an expectation with the minister that he will go and work with the Ministry of Health on whatever adjustments are required to see that surveillance testing increase," she said.

A Ministry of Health spokesperson said more people than eight may have actually been swabbed, because tests are not always processed on the same day.

But the spokesperson said says school holidays and lower than normal rates of influenza may have had an impact on testing.

GP clinics and testing centres were swamped last month when cold and flu season hit, with about 10,000 people being tested a day.

Those numbers dropped right back when the ministry changed its testing criteria to say low-risk people with mild symptoms did not automatically need to be tested.

However, Hipkins has said the pendulum has swung too far the other way, with numbers consistently in the 1000s or 2000s.

Guidelines on who to test were changed again last week to encourage more but that has made little difference.

University of Otago professor and epidemiologist Michael Baker said testing in the community was a vital line of defence to detect any failure in border security.

He told Morning Report it was not just about test numbers but about how they were targeted.

"That's covering centres where there are isolation facilities and also testing staff who work there, aircrews and maritime crews."

It was imperative to look and learn from what had gone wrong overseas, to avoid it occurring in New Zealand, he said.

In winter, he said symptoms of Covid overlapped with other seasonal respiratory infections.

"We could be doing 4000 tests a day but it may not be helping much if it is not carefully targeted. Knowing how that testing is distributed is important."
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Something in the offing...
Live: Prime minister calls press conference after Judith Collins raises allegation about Labour MP
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politi ... -labour-mp
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Santa wrote:Something in the offing...
Live: Prime minister calls press conference after Judith Collins raises allegation about Labour MP
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politi ... -labour-mp
Speculation here that it is Lees-Galloway.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12349940
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Collins telling the media she tipped off the PM. Not sure she’s as clever as she thinks she is.
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Wilderbeast wrote:Collins telling the media she tipped off the PM. Not sure she’s as clever as she thinks she is.
Asked by MediaWorks if she had "received anything about Labour ministers or Labour MPs", Collins replied: "I have actually".

"I have advised the Prime Minister and I have asked for anybody who has that information to send it directly to her," she said.
Maybe she should have lied to the press.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12349940
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Lees-Galloway goooooooooone. Could be a blessing in disguise.
Maybe she should have lied to the press.
Why, when she briefed them to ask the question in the first place? :lol:
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Enzedder wrote:Lees-Galloway goooooooooone. Could be a blessing in disguise.
Yeah that twat deserved to go last year when the facts were revealed about him granting residency to known drug dealer/smuggler Karel Sroubek. WTF?

Jacinda doesn't want our hardened crims back from Australia but happy to accept them from the Czech Republic.
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I've noticed a flaw in our system. We get rid of an MP or two and think great, only another 100 and something to go. But then the feckers go and get replaced and we're back to square one.

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Minister of Workplace Relations has workplace relation.

Poor, poor Mrs ILG and kids. What a plum.
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Seems that male politicians on both sides of the spectrum have trouble keeping their penis in their pants. Interesting that Collins informed Ardern about the allegation. I prefer that approach TBH.

Who's next?
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Santa wrote:Minister of Workplace Relations has workplace relation.

Poor, poor Mrs ILG and kids. What a plum.
This I agree with. Forget the politics for a bit, the guy has a family. What a plum indeed.
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Wilderbeast wrote:Collins telling the media she tipped off the PM. Not sure she’s as clever as she thinks she is.
Huh? The Prime minister did exactly the same thing only yesterday
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