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Wilderbeast wrote:

Sonny Blount wrote:

guy smiley wrote:

Wilderbeast wrote:

booji boy wrote:I buy goods overseas all the time from UK and US based sites. No way they are going to collect and pay 15% GST on behalf of Jacinda and her band of merry tax collectors. WTF should they? They are operating in their own tax jurisdiction and meeting their tax obligations there. Why the fudge would they want the admin hassle and compliance costs of collecting and then paying 15% GST to the NZ Govt. Labour trumpeted this as some sort of win because they thought they could get the big players like Amazon to come to the party. But smaller dealerships like the ones I deal with definitely won't. And now even Amazon have given NZ the two fingered salute. Welcome to the real world Jacinda.

Don’t let your anti-labour bias blind you. National will want to tax these companies as much as labour and its considered an international problem. You’d be hard pressed to find any political party anywhere supporting it (outside of where company recognised its revenue). It’s tax avoidance of the worst kind. Are you seriously advocating for that?

Australia doing similar things and fighting the same battle from the opposite side of the political fence...

https://www.smh.com.au/business/compani ... 4ziuf.html

I love Amazon because they put customer value first, second, and third.


Too bad for governments trying to use them to collect revenue from their populace.

They put profit first, and tax minimisation plays a large role in this.

Enzedder wrote:

Dark wrote:

deadduck wrote:I want to know if she's been turfed out of hospital yet like every other mother in the public health system, or if she's getting special treatment due to her status? That would be highly inappropriate and scandalous.

Did she share a ward?

They say she had 3 parliamentary protection squad dudes outside her room while giving birth which is kind of understandable and is staying for at least another night

It's this whole calling them "The first family" which is weird.

When did we turn Yank?

Holy shit - top level research here folks. Someone on the internet told me.

Fuck me gently Dork and Deadduck - grow up a tad - like 20 years.

Enzedder wrote:Poor Dork - Jacinda had a baby and he's all upset about it. They say (sic) that is very immature.

deadduck wrote:I want to know if she's been turfed out of hospital yet like every other mother in the public health system, or if she's getting special treatment due to her status? That would be highly inappropriate and scandalous.

Did she share a ward?

deadduck wrote:I want to know if she's been turfed out of hospital yet like every other mother in the public health system, or if she's getting special treatment due to her status? That would be highly inappropriate and scandalous.

Did she share a ward?

Jay Cee Gee wrote:

deadduck wrote:I want to know if she's been turfed out of hospital yet like every other mother in the public health system, or if she's getting special treatment due to her status? That would be highly inappropriate and scandalous.

Did she share a ward?

Ward 4.

guy smiley wrote:It's kinda difficult to look at someone calling someone else Dork while telling him to grow up.

Also, as the leader of a government I'd be pretty disappointed if the PM wasn't getting protection and a private room. Trying to score a political point over that is just weird.

Dark wrote:Finally she delivers something she promised

guy smiley wrote:Hey.. you ChCh based beer lovers, allow me to do youse a favour


Three Boys Brewery have limited stocks of their Imperial Oyster Stout 12% available now. Pomeroy's have it in stock.

It won't last long. Get in now and thank me later

JB1981 wrote:

Jay Cee Gee wrote:

deadduck wrote:I want to know if she's been turfed out of hospital yet like every other mother in the public health system, or if she's getting special treatment due to her status? That would be highly inappropriate and scandalous.

Did she share a ward?

Ward 4.

guy smiley wrote:

booji boy wrote:

guy smiley wrote:

Dark wrote:OMG

Just had a look at the Standard

They are calling the baby the "Prime Miniature"

That's not bad.

Some of you are just gonna have to suck this up. For a start, we know our home media tend to be parochial and down home at best and in conjunction with that, this is the first governing leader to give birth in office for nearly 30 years (I think, without a google) so they're going to fuss over it.

Nothing to do but try to let it blow past. Find your centre. Absorb your Great Inner Peace. Be the thing you always wanted.

Go bush.

Yeah the question is how long will it go on for? Some are comparing it to a royal baby ffs. A royal baby is a royal for life. If Jacinda is prime minister for 3 terms does this little kid get fawned over until she's 8? What if Jacinda gets rolled in 2020, do we forget about the little 2 year old?

Yeah, basically.

C'mon, the baby is newborn. It'll go on all weekend and then the news cycle will take over and there will be regular progress updates as that f**king idiot from Newshub (Paddy, just remembered the f**king rodent faced pole smoker's name) goes through the household bins and comes up trumps with the first official dirty nappy.

It'll die down apart from the Womens' mags and I can't speak for every red blooded male in here but that won't concern me. I'd keep an eye on Seneca though, he thinks she's Mandela.

Enzedder wrote:Have to laugh that all the above criticism of the idea could be wrong. Supreme Court in the USA has just ruled in State Governments favour over collecting of sales tax from out-of-state sales. Seems it is going to have to be possible and Amazon are going to have to suck it up or close.

Pity eh? Not

Mr Mike wrote:

Enzedder wrote:Have to laugh that all the above criticism of the idea could be wrong. Supreme Court in the USA has just ruled in State Governments favour over collecting of sales tax from out-of-state sales. Seems it is going to have to be possible and Amazon are going to have to suck it up or close.

Pity eh? Not

It doesn’t really affect Amazon, they already have a physical presence (the test beforehand it was modernized yesterday by SCOTUS) in most states and are already collecting and paying state sales taxes. It may actually be a good thing for them as smaller online retailers may lack the resources to manage the challenge of 50 different state systems, unlike Amazon.

guy smiley wrote: Some of you are just gonna have to suck this up.

Nothing to do but try to let it blow past. Find your centre. Absorb your Great Inner Peace. Be the thing you always wanted.

Go bush.

Jay Cee Gee wrote:

deadduck wrote:I want to know if she's been turfed out of hospital yet like every other mother in the public health system, or if she's getting special treatment due to her status? That would be highly inappropriate and scandalous.

Did she share a ward?

Ward 4.

RuggaBugga wrote:

Jay Cee Gee wrote:

deadduck wrote:I want to know if she's been turfed out of hospital yet like every other mother in the public health system, or if she's getting special treatment due to her status? That would be highly inappropriate and scandalous.

Did she share a ward?

Ward 4.

I hope not Bill....

Shit!

Dark wrote:It's only been a week and Winston is already taking the piss

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics ... -show.html

Seneca of the Night wrote:This was inevitable:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12084381

No way the NZ left was going to allow this to go ahead.

Opinion: Who voted for Richard Briggs' $440k annual salary?

Hamilton City Council chief executive Richard Briggs earns more than the Canadian prime minister - a lot more.

OPINION: I've yet to meet a six-figure manager who's worth the pay.

It's probably not a good thing for my career prospects to say it so publicly, but I don't think I've met anyone in my working life who inspires me to follow in his or her footsteps.

No one in my career qualifies as an inspirational manager, a thinker, a person of such unbridled imagination, ability and talent that I would walk to the promised land of personal and professional nirvana praising that name in song.

Nup. I've had bozo bosses and they line up like a rogue's gallery of wing-it-till-you-make-it management types who don't have a clue.

This all came to a head recently when I thought about those apparently brilliant six-figure management types who gravitate to the easiest place of all to get big money ... city councils.

Now, I know I've said and written this before, but it deserves repeating.

Why does a city with a couple of hundred thousand residents need to pay a chief executive hundreds of thousands of dollars to run the place into debt?

Hamilton residents now face rate rises that are among the steepest in the country and for what? Is Peacockes a cornerstone of bold city innovation and development – or is it more unserviceable debt backed on a wing and prayer only to be baled out by ratepayers?

Remind me again what the hell the benefit of development is? Because I can tell you the costs.

Or maybe Hamilton is the epicentre of innovative council management culture that is the envy of the country … you know - like Claudelands Events centre…

Consider this: Canada has 39 million people. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is paid $193K. Hamilton City has around 157,000 people. Council chief executive Richard Briggs is paid $440K.

If I were a council member, I would be asking myself, why did I drink the management culture Kool-Aid and how can I continue to support it?

Now, to be fair, I'm not suggesting Briggs is a management bozo - far from it. He comes across as an affable, likeable person who has got to the top of his career pile.

But Briggs is not there to be liked. He is there to do a job. And he's not doing the job when rates rise above the rate of inflation. That should be the basic KPI detailed on the chief executive's job description.

Miss that KPI and you're done.

So who sets the KPIs? Council.

But it seems neither the market nor council's elected wing has any accountability. The chief executive can keep pulling the big money even when an audit report investigating is conveniently not tabled in time for the 10 Year Plan deliberations.

So my question is why does Hamilton or any city council need to pay high salaries for average performance? Former Hamilton City Council chief executive Tony Marryatt was paid handsomely and look where that got us (and Christchurch). Michael Redman the same.

Tauranga had career bureaucrat Garry Poole. Bella Vista is what happened on his watch. What was he worth? Around $420,000 a year when he was chief executive at Wellington City Council and $380K annually at Tauranga.

Look … our cities are beset with groupthink, where councillors go along for the ride out of fear of being the bad guy, leading to poor decisions that ratepayers pay for.

Now if you do the math on these career city bureaucrats, you will see these men are rich on ratepayer money.

So ratepayers would rightly think these council staff have massive responsibility, the equal of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

But Briggs doesn't have to worry about the military. He doesn't have to set plans or budgets and polices that affect 30 million people. He doesn't have to deal with health care, social welfare, Donald Trump or bears. He doesn't have to deal with the cold or the United States on his border or world leaders, immigration, Quebec.

All Briggs has to do is worry about Hamilton, a small, loveable, landlocked city in New Zealand.

So who voted for Briggs' utterly ridiculous $8000-plus-a-week salary? Your elected councillors did, and in so doing demonstrated their complete incompetence in dealing prudently with matters of your ratepayer money.

If there is one overriding sign our current system of city management is way out of control, it is when a manager of a small town can be paid $8000 a week and council staff and the elected wing thinks it's a fair day's pay for a fair day's work.

Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau must be wondering what the hell he has to do to get a job at Hamilton City Council.

- Stuff

Thai guy wrote:They have shown their muscle but having been barred from Britain she fails the good character requirements for entry into NZ and is not eligible for a visa here without going to the Minister of Immigration, apparently.

APA rightly and responsibly notified everyone what they intended to do should these two scumbags be given a platform for far right white supremacist campaigning in NZ. Auckland Council decided they didn't want their venue used as this platform and they were mindful of the inherent security concerns.

Here she is in MAGA type pose (even though she's Canadian) with two guns probably banned in NZ.

Seneca of the Night wrote:Just looked at linked in. He is patently a complete cnt.

Richard Briggs
Disruptor and Influencer. Chief Executive at Hamilton City Council.

Experienced Chief Executive with a passion for delivering strategic outcomes by building and delivering a high performance organisation. Skilled in all aspects of leadership with a track record in influencing leaders, and their organisations, to significantly improve performance .

Agile, strategic and able to build an organisation capable of delivering its strategic vision; regardless of the sector.

kiwinoz wrote:

Richard Briggs
Disruptor and Influencer. Chief Executive at Hamilton City Council.

Experienced Chief Executive with a passion for delivering strategic outcomes by building and delivering a high performance organisation. Skilled in all aspects of leadership with a track record in influencing leaders, and their organisations, to significantly improve performance .

Agile, strategic and able to build an organisation capable of delivering its strategic vision; regardless of the sector.

All the cliches

Dark wrote:

kiwinoz wrote:

Richard Briggs
Disruptor and Influencer. Chief Executive at Hamilton City Council.

Experienced Chief Executive with a passion for delivering strategic outcomes by building and delivering a high performance organisation. Skilled in all aspects of leadership with a track record in influencing leaders, and their organisations, to significantly improve performance .

Agile, strategic and able to build an organisation capable of delivering its strategic vision; regardless of the sector.

All the cliches

If he is a poster on here I nominate him for poster I want to punch on the other thread

Seneca of the Night wrote:

Enzedder wrote:Interesting story in the rag this morning about the ridiculously large salaries we pay out council CEO's here.

Our last 3 have been beyond pathetic - Tony Marryatt, Michael Redman and now this bozo

Opinion: Who voted for Richard Briggs' $440k annual salary?

Hamilton City Council chief executive Richard Briggs earns more than the Canadian prime minister - a lot more.

OPINION: I've yet to meet a six-figure manager who's worth the pay.

It's probably not a good thing for my career prospects to say it so publicly, but I don't think I've met anyone in my working life who inspires me to follow in his or her footsteps.

No one in my career qualifies as an inspirational manager, a thinker, a person of such unbridled imagination, ability and talent that I would walk to the promised land of personal and professional nirvana praising that name in song.

Nup. I've had bozo bosses and they line up like a rogue's gallery of wing-it-till-you-make-it management types who don't have a clue.

This all came to a head recently when I thought about those apparently brilliant six-figure management types who gravitate to the easiest place of all to get big money ... city councils.

Now, I know I've said and written this before, but it deserves repeating.

Why does a city with a couple of hundred thousand residents need to pay a chief executive hundreds of thousands of dollars to run the place into debt?

Hamilton residents now face rate rises that are among the steepest in the country and for what? Is Peacockes a cornerstone of bold city innovation and development – or is it more unserviceable debt backed on a wing and prayer only to be baled out by ratepayers?

Remind me again what the hell the benefit of development is? Because I can tell you the costs.

Or maybe Hamilton is the epicentre of innovative council management culture that is the envy of the country … you know - like Claudelands Events centre…

Consider this: Canada has 39 million people. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is paid $193K. Hamilton City has around 157,000 people. Council chief executive Richard Briggs is paid $440K.

If I were a council member, I would be asking myself, why did I drink the management culture Kool-Aid and how can I continue to support it?

Now, to be fair, I'm not suggesting Briggs is a management bozo - far from it. He comes across as an affable, likeable person who has got to the top of his career pile.

But Briggs is not there to be liked. He is there to do a job. And he's not doing the job when rates rise above the rate of inflation. That should be the basic KPI detailed on the chief executive's job description.

Miss that KPI and you're done.

So who sets the KPIs? Council.

But it seems neither the market nor council's elected wing has any accountability. The chief executive can keep pulling the big money even when an audit report investigating is conveniently not tabled in time for the 10 Year Plan deliberations.

So my question is why does Hamilton or any city council need to pay high salaries for average performance? Former Hamilton City Council chief executive Tony Marryatt was paid handsomely and look where that got us (and Christchurch). Michael Redman the same.

Tauranga had career bureaucrat Garry Poole. Bella Vista is what happened on his watch. What was he worth? Around $420,000 a year when he was chief executive at Wellington City Council and $380K annually at Tauranga.

Look … our cities are beset with groupthink, where councillors go along for the ride out of fear of being the bad guy, leading to poor decisions that ratepayers pay for.

Now if you do the math on these career city bureaucrats, you will see these men are rich on ratepayer money.

So ratepayers would rightly think these council staff have massive responsibility, the equal of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

But Briggs doesn't have to worry about the military. He doesn't have to set plans or budgets and polices that affect 30 million people. He doesn't have to deal with health care, social welfare, Donald Trump or bears. He doesn't have to deal with the cold or the United States on his border or world leaders, immigration, Quebec.

All Briggs has to do is worry about Hamilton, a small, loveable, landlocked city in New Zealand.

So who voted for Briggs' utterly ridiculous $8000-plus-a-week salary? Your elected councillors did, and in so doing demonstrated their complete incompetence in dealing prudently with matters of your ratepayer money.

If there is one overriding sign our current system of city management is way out of control, it is when a manager of a small town can be paid $8000 a week and council staff and the elected wing thinks it's a fair day's pay for a fair day's work.

Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau must be wondering what the hell he has to do to get a job at Hamilton City Council.

- Stuff

Does anyone have this guys cv to post? Aren't these people glorified accountants?

Seneca of the Night wrote:

booji boy wrote:

Seneca of the Night wrote:

Enzedder wrote:Interesting story in the rag this morning about the ridiculously large salaries we pay out council CEO's here.

Our last 3 have been beyond pathetic - Tony Marryatt, Michael Redman and now this bozo

Opinion: Who voted for Richard Briggs' $440k annual salary?

Hamilton City Council chief executive Richard Briggs earns more than the Canadian prime minister - a lot more.

OPINION: I've yet to meet a six-figure manager who's worth the pay.

It's probably not a good thing for my career prospects to say it so publicly, but I don't think I've met anyone in my working life who inspires me to follow in his or her footsteps.

No one in my career qualifies as an inspirational manager, a thinker, a person of such unbridled imagination, ability and talent that I would walk to the promised land of personal and professional nirvana praising that name in song.

Nup. I've had bozo bosses and they line up like a rogue's gallery of wing-it-till-you-make-it management types who don't have a clue.

This all came to a head recently when I thought about those apparently brilliant six-figure management types who gravitate to the easiest place of all to get big money ... city councils.

Now, I know I've said and written this before, but it deserves repeating.

Why does a city with a couple of hundred thousand residents need to pay a chief executive hundreds of thousands of dollars to run the place into debt?

Hamilton residents now face rate rises that are among the steepest in the country and for what? Is Peacockes a cornerstone of bold city innovation and development – or is it more unserviceable debt backed on a wing and prayer only to be baled out by ratepayers?

Remind me again what the hell the benefit of development is? Because I can tell you the costs.

Or maybe Hamilton is the epicentre of innovative council management culture that is the envy of the country … you know - like Claudelands Events centre…

Consider this: Canada has 39 million people. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is paid $193K. Hamilton City has around 157,000 people. Council chief executive Richard Briggs is paid $440K.

If I were a council member, I would be asking myself, why did I drink the management culture Kool-Aid and how can I continue to support it?

Now, to be fair, I'm not suggesting Briggs is a management bozo - far from it. He comes across as an affable, likeable person who has got to the top of his career pile.

But Briggs is not there to be liked. He is there to do a job. And he's not doing the job when rates rise above the rate of inflation. That should be the basic KPI detailed on the chief executive's job description.

Miss that KPI and you're done.

So who sets the KPIs? Council.

But it seems neither the market nor council's elected wing has any accountability. The chief executive can keep pulling the big money even when an audit report investigating is conveniently not tabled in time for the 10 Year Plan deliberations.

So my question is why does Hamilton or any city council need to pay high salaries for average performance? Former Hamilton City Council chief executive Tony Marryatt was paid handsomely and look where that got us (and Christchurch). Michael Redman the same.

Tauranga had career bureaucrat Garry Poole. Bella Vista is what happened on his watch. What was he worth? Around $420,000 a year when he was chief executive at Wellington City Council and $380K annually at Tauranga.

Look … our cities are beset with groupthink, where councillors go along for the ride out of fear of being the bad guy, leading to poor decisions that ratepayers pay for.

Now if you do the math on these career city bureaucrats, you will see these men are rich on ratepayer money.

So ratepayers would rightly think these council staff have massive responsibility, the equal of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

But Briggs doesn't have to worry about the military. He doesn't have to set plans or budgets and polices that affect 30 million people. He doesn't have to deal with health care, social welfare, Donald Trump or bears. He doesn't have to deal with the cold or the United States on his border or world leaders, immigration, Quebec.

All Briggs has to do is worry about Hamilton, a small, loveable, landlocked city in New Zealand.

So who voted for Briggs' utterly ridiculous $8000-plus-a-week salary? Your elected councillors did, and in so doing demonstrated their complete incompetence in dealing prudently with matters of your ratepayer money.

If there is one overriding sign our current system of city management is way out of control, it is when a manager of a small town can be paid $8000 a week and council staff and the elected wing thinks it's a fair day's pay for a fair day's work.

Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau must be wondering what the hell he has to do to get a job at Hamilton City Council.

- Stuff

Does anyone have this guys cv to post? Aren't these people glorified accountants?

Glorified Accountants?

I wish!

Say what you want about accountants but the usual complaint about accountants is that they are cost cutting bean counters with no regard for the bigger picture. These cunts on the other hand couldn't give a shit about the cost and are happy to spend money with no regard for fiscal constraints. Why hold back when spending other people's money?

Look at linked in. He is a qualified chartered accountant. They all are.

Seneca of the Night wrote:.

I live in Taupo. Our CEO is a former planner. Hasn't got a clue and couldn't give a flying fudge about finance. Our previous CEO was the same, except he was an engineer.

Sounds like you need an accountant!