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Author:  kiwinoz [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

guy smiley wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:
NZ is catching up in the race to the bottom.



It's all Seneca's fault.


:lol: :lol:

Author:  Santa [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

True Blue wrote:
Man In Black wrote:
It seems Don Brash has been refused a speaking engagement by Massey Uni after threats of violence from far left activists. Not a good road to go down NZ :thumbdown:



https://www.facebook.com/notes/kardinal ... 364995301/

Here is the letter.

The last paragraph is the threat. I hope police arrest the plum.


It's the free market in action or something. :roll:

Author:  booji boy [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

UncleFB wrote:
booji boy wrote:
Man In Black wrote:
It seems Don Brash has been refused a speaking engagement by Massey Uni after threats of violence from far left activists. Not a good road to go down NZ :thumbdown:


On what basis? His Orewa speech way back in 2004?

Or is it just the left leaning academics at the University that don't like Brash?

Isn't he part of some anti-treaty group?

I know a bunch of left leaning academics at Massey who don't like Brash but have no problem with him speaking there.

I find it odd that anyone who leans slightly right has a hissy fit if any right leaning commentator is labelled alt right, yet the left is constantly lumped in with the far left.


Well why has he been banned then? The vice-chancellor Jan Thomas came across as aloof and pompous on TV. Do you really think her opinion of Brash played no part in the decision?

Author:  Flockwitt [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Seneca of the Night wrote:
Man In Black wrote:
Flockwitt wrote:
Man In Black wrote:
It’s still not very mutli-cultural though. You have one dominant culture that migrants largely sign up to when they arrive (which is a very good thing and will hopefully stay that way). Having lots of different skin colours doesn’t necessarily mean a place is multi-cultural.

Parts of Christchurch are now exceptionally multicultural in terms of diversity. But it is that dilution of different immigrants that makes your point, and agree it's a good one. And there is definitely a significant degree of true multiculturalism. Plenty of activities, clubs and whatnot that are specificly ethnic.


Having a Diwali Festival and Chinese New Year celebrations doesn't make a place multi-cultural in my eyes. I see that as a nod to other ethnicities that have moved to NZ, but placed very much within the dominant culture (this biculturalism that Seneca refers to). The fact most migrants seem to want to have bbqs at the beach and play rugby / cricket is fantastic. NZ is one of the places that is so far doing this right.


This is right. What I want to have (if anyone is asking) is a serious discussion around the right balance of cultures coming in at the right pace - not just economically (pressure on housing etc) but culturally, so that the newcomers are adding spice carefully and slowly to the culture rather than overwhelming it. What you get if the pace is too fast is ghettoisation.

So what I just described above is NOT multiculturism, but deepening and enriching existing NZ culture (which is bicultural). It doesn't help us have this discussion when anyone saying 'NZ is not multicultural' is leapt upon by people who don't understand the term and controversial experts (and they sort of are that, making their living from discussing it) like Southern and Molyneux are hounded out of the country by idiots.

Holy shit there are a lot of Chinese, Indians, and Africans out there. Just be careful how quickly you let them in.

There is a reverse line here with let's say outright assimilation. Like people who move to America and don't teach their kids their native tongue simply because they don't want their children to feel or be any different from the other kids they grow up with. I'd agree what we're seeing is cultural enrichment where the New Zealand experience is far too diverse to have ghettoisation. If you walk around Westfield mall there's a serious selection of different languages going on, where I live my 6 nearest neighbours are all new New Zealanders and not one of them is from the same country of origin. But I'd still call it multiculturism to a degree. There's a school here that refused to do a special class of Maori (aside from the general curriculum) but did do one for Mandarin, because that's who needed it. When a society can provide for language, shops, activities and organizations all based around a specific ethnic group it's becoming as nigh on multicultural as you can get before you start talking about multiple official languages et al. Certainly none of this was available to non-English speaking immigrants a couple of decades ago.

Author:  UncleFB [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

booji boy wrote:
UncleFB wrote:
booji boy wrote:
Man In Black wrote:
It seems Don Brash has been refused a speaking engagement by Massey Uni after threats of violence from far left activists. Not a good road to go down NZ :thumbdown:


On what basis? His Orewa speech way back in 2004?

Or is it just the left leaning academics at the University that don't like Brash?

Isn't he part of some anti-treaty group?

I know a bunch of left leaning academics at Massey who don't like Brash but have no problem with him speaking there.

I find it odd that anyone who leans slightly right has a hissy fit if any right leaning commentator is labelled alt right, yet the left is constantly lumped in with the far left.


Well why has he been banned then? The vice-chancellor Jan Thomas came across as aloof and pompous on TV. Do you really think her opinion of Brash played no part in the decision?

Huh? They're not the ones who decide who can or cannot come on campus.

Author:  guy smiley [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

booji boy wrote:
UncleFB wrote:
booji boy wrote:
Man In Black wrote:
It seems Don Brash has been refused a speaking engagement by Massey Uni after threats of violence from far left activists. Not a good road to go down NZ :thumbdown:


On what basis? His Orewa speech way back in 2004?

Or is it just the left leaning academics at the University that don't like Brash?

Isn't he part of some anti-treaty group?

I know a bunch of left leaning academics at Massey who don't like Brash but have no problem with him speaking there.

I find it odd that anyone who leans slightly right has a hissy fit if any right leaning commentator is labelled alt right, yet the left is constantly lumped in with the far left.


Well why has he been banned then? The vice-chancellor Jan Thomas came across as aloof and pompous on TV. Do you really think her opinion of Brash played no part in the decision?



That's quite a reach you have there. The threatening letter has been posted already in the thread... that would be reason enough to cancel the engagement but you're managing to Seneca it right up into a confrontation between the fine upstanding defenders of society on the Right and the dirty, scum sucking underworld goblins on the Left.

Author:  guy smiley [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Flockwitt wrote:
There is a reverse line here with let's say outright assimilation. Like people who move to America and don't teach their kids their native tongue simply because they don't want their children to feel or be any different from the other kids they grow up with. I'd agree what we're seeing is cultural enrichment where the New Zealand experience is far too diverse to have ghettoisation. If you walk around Westfield mall there's a serious selection of different languages going on, where I live my 6 nearest neighbours are all new New Zealanders and not one of them is from the same country of origin. But I'd still call it multiculturism to a degree. There's a school here that refused to do a special class of Maori (aside from the general curriculum) but did do one for Mandarin, because that's who needed it. When a society can provide for language, shops, activities and organizations all based around a specific ethnic group it's becoming as nigh on multicultural as you can get before you start talking about multiple official languages et al. Certainly none of this was available to non-English speaking immigrants a couple of decades ago.

:thumbup: :thumbup:

Author:  UncleFB [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Seneca of the Night wrote:
UncleFB wrote:
booji boy wrote:
Man In Black wrote:
It seems Don Brash has been refused a speaking engagement by Massey Uni after threats of violence from far left activists. Not a good road to go down NZ :thumbdown:


On what basis? His Orewa speech way back in 2004?

Or is it just the left leaning academics at the University that don't like Brash?

Isn't he part of some anti-treaty group?

I know a bunch of left leaning academics at Massey who don't like Brash but have no problem with him speaking there.

I find it odd that anyone who leans slightly right has a hissy fit if any right leaning commentator is labelled alt right, yet the left is constantly lumped in with the far left.


You're a complete spectrum mess. Your understanding of political labels is so bizarre that I can't believe you're educated in any of this.

:yawn: Can't you come up with a better narrative? This one is getting boring.

Author:  guy smiley [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Seneca of the Night wrote:
guy smiley wrote:
Flockwitt wrote:
There is a reverse line here with let's say outright assimilation. Like people who move to America and don't teach their kids their native tongue simply because they don't want their children to feel or be any different from the other kids they grow up with. I'd agree what we're seeing is cultural enrichment where the New Zealand experience is far too diverse to have ghettoisation. If you walk around Westfield mall there's a serious selection of different languages going on, where I live my 6 nearest neighbours are all new New Zealanders and not one of them is from the same country of origin. But I'd still call it multiculturism to a degree. There's a school here that refused to do a special class of Maori (aside from the general curriculum) but did do one for Mandarin, because that's who needed it. When a society can provide for language, shops, activities and organizations all based around a specific ethnic group it's becoming as nigh on multicultural as you can get before you start talking about multiple official languages et al. Certainly none of this was available to non-English speaking immigrants a couple of decades ago.

:thumbup: :thumbup:


As long as it gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside guy and the parties you should know better at your age than to be at feature an array of exotic beauties then all is good. :thumbup:



Parties with exotics on one hand, boozers in London on the other. We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl.

Author:  guy smiley [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Really? Well done :thumbup: :lol:

Author:  UncleFB [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Seneca of the Night wrote:
UncleFB wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
UncleFB wrote:
booji boy wrote:

On what basis? His Orewa speech way back in 2004?

Or is it just the left leaning academics at the University that don't like Brash?

Isn't he part of some anti-treaty group?

I know a bunch of left leaning academics at Massey who don't like Brash but have no problem with him speaking there.

I find it odd that anyone who leans slightly right has a hissy fit if any right leaning commentator is labelled alt right, yet the left is constantly lumped in with the far left.


You're a complete spectrum mess. Your understanding of political labels is so bizarre that I can't believe you're educated in any of this.

:yawn: Can't you come up with a better narrative? This one is getting boring.


It's not a narrative. Your notion of the centre line and political leanings and grouping is incompetent. You sneer at 'whiny White natiinalists' yet have no idea what they're on about, while making anti-white racist comments yourself and are think that even the NZ herald are 'right wing'. This is so bizarre anyone might think you went to massey University and got brain washed.

Edit: on phone so typos galore...

Bahahaha - your posting is so ironic sometimes. Also, you know I didn't study at Massey right?

At any rate, I've asked you twice now for these 'better than Southern and Molyneaux' peeps you spoke about it but you don't seem to want to offer them up.

Author:  Dark [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Can see that lefty VC chick being gone burger within a couple of weeks

Author:  UncleFB [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Seneca of the Night wrote:
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Quote:
Bahahaha - your posting is so ironic sometimes. Also, you know I didn't study at Massey right?

At any rate, I've asked you twice now for these 'better than Southern and Molyneaux' peeps you spoke about it but you don't seem to want to offer them up.


Of course I'm not. I'm not having you rip stuff out of context.

Don't be a baby, cough it up. And while you're at it it why don't you outline the Left-Right spectrum according to SeN so I can see the error of my ways. How about you actually show some of that supposed superior intellect you hint at all the time?

Seneca of the Night wrote:
guy smiley wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:
NZ is catching up in the race to the bottom.



It's all Seneca's fault.


I'll certainly take responsibility for messing up this thread with this nonsense but I was only making a prediction that this was on its way to new Zealand based on observations overseas and the fact that new Zealand has a complete ratbag left wing (see uncle fb of this parish) who were going to dive head first in to this stuff with relish and we did not have sufficient prevailing counter forces to resist them.

So it has passed. This government won't be able to resolve this but I imagine the national party will be thinking a bit about toughening up freedom of speech legislation.

Do you want to get everything wrong today? Firstly, I'm not even in NZ, granted, I'm more in touch with what's going on there than you, but I have no influence over anything. Secondly, I've said, in this very thread that both the Canadians and Brash should have been able to speak - the Canadians just shouldn't have been 'guaranteed' any venue they picked.

Author:  guy smiley [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Seneca of the Night wrote:

They weren't going to be allowed ANY venue they picked. The left wing mob were going to see to that. How obtuse are you going to continue to be on this?


So... where did they end up speaking if they couldn't speak?

Author:  Tehui [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

The scary thing about Don Brash is that he was within an ant's dick of being NZ Prime Minister.

He's an old dinosaur who belongs in a museum.

Author:  deadduck [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Perhaps a scarier thing is that his so-called extreme views generated an 18% swing for National which culminated in the victory in 2008, decimating the Labour party in the process.

Author:  brat [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Dark wrote:
Can see that lefty VC chick being gone burger within a couple of weeks


Yes she needs to go - ridiculous decision

Apparently all brash was going to talk about was his political career

First the southern and Molyneux fiasco- now this .. must be funny watching this from afar..backward country at times

Author:  Wilderbeast [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

deadduck wrote:
Perhaps a scarier thing is that his so-called extreme views generated an 18% swing for National which culminated in the victory in 2008, decimating the Labour party in the process.


He tried the same thing for Act, promising 10% of the party vote if he was elected leader. They elected him, he proceeded to rant about Maori again, and got nowhere.

Author:  Gordon Bennett [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

brat wrote:
Dark wrote:
Can see that lefty VC chick being gone burger within a couple of weeks


Yes she needs to go - ridiculous decision


She's far from popular with the majority of the staff at Massey as well, I understand. Faculty of Science is being decimated at Massey under her watch.

Author:  Dark [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Brash's planned speech points

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12102874

Seemed to have wanted to criticise both sides equally

Author:  Tehui [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

deadduck wrote:
Perhaps a scarier thing is that his so-called extreme views generated an 18% swing for National which culminated in the victory in 2008, decimating the Labour party in the process.


Ah yes, the anti-Maori rhetoric is always sure to attract a few votes. And who can forget his divisive billboards of "iwi - kiwi".

What a great way for a political leader to bring people together.

Author:  Fat Old Git [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Tehui wrote:
deadduck wrote:
Perhaps a scarier thing is that his so-called extreme views generated an 18% swing for National which culminated in the victory in 2008, decimating the Labour party in the process.


Ah yes, the anti-Maori rhetoric is always sure to attract a few votes. And who can forget his divisive billboards of "iwi - kiwi".

What a great way for a political leader to bring people together.


Is was a good way to inform the public about what they might be getting if the voted for him. I'd like to think it put as at least as many people off as it attracted. But that might be wishful thinking.

Author:  True Blue [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Tehui wrote:
The scary thing about Don Brash is that he was within an ant's dick of being NZ Prime Minister.

He's an old dinosaur who belongs in a museum.



He wouldn't have made a great PM to be sure, but then again, neither is Jacinda "Womens Weekly" Ardern.

Author:  jono45 [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Sue Bradford in a classic leftie " im offended" moment

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national ... -on-monday

Author:  Dark [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Chris Bishop sends an open letter to the VC

https://www.facebook.com/ChrisBishopMP/ ... 8992715644

Question time should be funny today

Author:  guy smiley [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Speaking of issues we didn't know we had,

Judith Collin's f**ks up and doubles down

Quote:
Senior National MP Judith Collins is standing by a tweet linking to an article that made false claims about France's age of consent laws.

The YourNewsWire.Com article was headlined "France Passes Law Saying Children Can Consent To Sex With Adults". In fact, France has just passed a law that made it far easier to charge adults who had sex with children under 15 with rape. It has strengthened its consent laws, not weakened them.

Yet Collins asked Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern to "denounce this legislation of child sexual abuse".
Judith Collins defended sharing the tweet from an often-debunked news website.

*****************************************

The new law makes it far easier for prosecutors to do so by introducing a new offence of "abuse of vulnerability". Critics have argued that the new law does not go far enough, but not that the law goes backward.

The website the article came from has been described as a "fake news" outlet by multiple sources including fact-checking site Snopes and The Times. It includes bizarre, false articles claiming pop singer Katy Perry has endorsed cannibalism.

Collins responded to those on Twitter who asked why she was tweeting out fake news by tweeting to reputable news sources covering the same topic, but in a deeply different way.

****************************************

She told Stuff she didn't necessarily "agree" with every article she tweeted but wanted to draw attention to the issue.

"I'm just concerned about the story about France itself," Collins said.

She said France had a chance to strengthen its laws and had not and she hoped Ardern would bring this up with French President Emmanuel Macron

"It doesn't go far enough, that's my issue," Collins said.

"I was shocked to learn there is no age of consent in France....This is a civilised country, they should know better."

"I often retweet articles of interest. I don't have to agree with everything in those articles, otherwise I would never tweet anything except my own stuff."

"I don't censor people. I don't say you shouldn't listen to people you don't disagree with. I say don't shoot the messenger - and the message to me is not about allegations of liberal conspiracy, it's that child sex abuse is wrong, it's disgraceful, and in some countries it is easier than others."

Collins said she didn't buy into "conspiracies" about liberals pushing paedophilia worldwide, despite sharing the article which suggested liberals were doing just that in its first paragraph.

The baseless conspiracy theory that LGBT activists are also pushing for wider acceptable of paedophilia by adding "P" to LGBT" has gained much traction in the United States in recent months.

Collins did say anyone who had been police minister - as she has - would know there was an international network of paedophiles sharing abusive images of children.

Asked whether she thought these people had exercised any influence on the French law passing, Collins said: "I hope not."

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern declined to comment at length on the French situation when asked, saying she would have to know more about the legal situation in the country before commenting.

She also declined to comment on whether or not it was appropriate for an MP to tweet a link to an article from a website known to publish fake news.

National leader Simon Bridges said he wouldn't discipline Collins over the tweet.

"I think in this case Judith Collins feels strongly about the issue - that's legitimate. But it is a wrong source, she acknowledges that, and we should in general try and get them right."



Judith is going to the the greatest car crash since Le Mans 55. It's going to be cover your eyes and hide behind the couch stuff by the end. She's a punchy go-get'em type chick but she knows this is all a farce, and eventually she'll fold.

Author:  maxbox [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Man In Black wrote:
Tehui wrote:
deadduck wrote:
Perhaps a scarier thing is that his so-called extreme views generated an 18% swing for National which culminated in the victory in 2008, decimating the Labour party in the process.


Ah yes, the anti-Maori rhetoric is always sure to attract a few votes. And who can forget his divisive billboards of "iwi - kiwi".

What a great way for a political leader to bring people together.


People do need to be protected from such things I future. It’s unreal that we even managed to get through that incident as a nation.


Oh for f cks sakes.... yes we could have imploded Yugoslavia styles :roll:

Author:  Gordon Bennett [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Seneca of the Night wrote:
True Blue wrote:
Tehui wrote:
The scary thing about Don Brash is that he was within an ant's dick of being NZ Prime Minister.

He's an old dinosaur who belongs in a museum.



He wouldn't have made a great PM to be sure, but then again, neither is Jacinda "Womens Weekly" Ardern.


Jacinda is going to the the greatest car crash since Le Mans 55. It's going to be cover your eyes and hide behind the couch stuff by the end. She's a punchy go-get'em type chick but she knows this is all a farce, and eventually she'll fold.


It's deja vu, all over again. :roll:

Author:  brat [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Tehui wrote:
deadduck wrote:
Perhaps a scarier thing is that his so-called extreme views generated an 18% swing for National which culminated in the victory in 2008, decimating the Labour party in the process.


Ah yes, the anti-Maori rhetoric is always sure to attract a few votes. And who can forget his divisive billboards of "iwi - kiwi".

What a great way for a political leader to bring people together.


What was the anti Maori rhetoric?

Doesn’t want to listen to Maori on RNZ?

Doesn’t want preferential treatment of Maori.. wants to treat everyone the same?.. outrageous behaviour like that?

Author:  booji boy [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

maxbox wrote:
Man In Black wrote:
Tehui wrote:
deadduck wrote:
Perhaps a scarier thing is that his so-called extreme views generated an 18% swing for National which culminated in the victory in 2008, decimating the Labour party in the process.


Ah yes, the anti-Maori rhetoric is always sure to attract a few votes. And who can forget his divisive billboards of "iwi - kiwi".

What a great way for a political leader to bring people together.


People do need to be protected from such things I future. It’s unreal that we even managed to get through that incident as a nation.


Oh for f cks sakes.... yes we could have imploded Yugoslavia styles :roll:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  booji boy [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

maxbox wrote:
Man In Black wrote:
Tehui wrote:
deadduck wrote:
Perhaps a scarier thing is that his so-called extreme views generated an 18% swing for National which culminated in the victory in 2008, decimating the Labour party in the process.


Ah yes, the anti-Maori rhetoric is always sure to attract a few votes. And who can forget his divisive billboards of "iwi - kiwi".

What a great way for a political leader to bring people together.


People do need to be protected from such things I future. It’s unreal that we even managed to get through that incident as a nation.


Oh for f cks sakes.... yes we could have imploded Yugoslavia styles :roll:


It's actually really interesting. Having known Croatians and Bosnians that lived through the Yugoslavia conflict it makes our political differences seem extremely trivial and petty by comparison. Seriously if I didn't watch the news and read this thread there would be no tangible difference in my life when there is a change in government. Unless of course Labour raise the tax rates and suddenly my take home pay is somewhat reduced.

But otherwise all this hand wringing and gnashing of teeth is largely ideologically driven. On a rugby forum ffs! :lol:

Maybe we should all get a life? :P

Author:  Santa [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

booji boy wrote:
maxbox wrote:
Man In Black wrote:
Tehui wrote:
deadduck wrote:
Perhaps a scarier thing is that his so-called extreme views generated an 18% swing for National which culminated in the victory in 2008, decimating the Labour party in the process.


Ah yes, the anti-Maori rhetoric is always sure to attract a few votes. And who can forget his divisive billboards of "iwi - kiwi".

What a great way for a political leader to bring people together.


People do need to be protected from such things I future. It’s unreal that we even managed to get through that incident as a nation.


Oh for f cks sakes.... yes we could have imploded Yugoslavia styles :roll:


:lol: :lol: :lol:


I think Maxbox was whooshed.

Author:  booji boy [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Santa wrote:

I think Maxbox was whooshed.


I guess that means I was whooshed too! :lol: :blush:

Author:  maxbox [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Shoulda seen that coming :blush:

Author:  Thai guy [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Seneca of the Night wrote:
Funny huh. Took a 23 year old Canadian girl to expose an issue we didn't even know we had.
There is no issue. NZ is just taking out the trash. About time we stood up for ourselves again in the way we did in against apartheid 1981 and against nuclear proliferation in 1987.

As literally everyone agrees, these two youtubers speak hate and division. Their racist utterings are all over the free platform youtube for everyone to see and the people of NZ saw it and said 'fuck off already'.

Job done.

Author:  booji boy [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Thai guy wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
Funny huh. Took a 23 year old Canadian girl to expose an issue we didn't even know we had.
There is no issue. NZ is just taking out the trash. About time we stood up for ourselves again in the way we did in against apartheid 1981 and against nuclear proliferation in 1987.

As literally everyone agrees, these two youtubers speak hate and division. Their racist utterings are all over the free platform youtube for everyone to see and the people of NZ saw it and said 'fuck off already'.

Job done.


:yawn: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Author:  deadduck [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

Thai guy wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
Funny huh. Took a 23 year old Canadian girl to expose an issue we didn't even know we had.
There is no issue. NZ is just taking out the trash. About time we stood up for ourselves again in the way we did in against apartheid 1981 and against nuclear proliferation in 1987.

As literally everyone agrees, these two youtubers speak hate and division. Their racist utterings are all over the free platform youtube for everyone to see and the people of NZ saw it and said 'fuck off already'.

Job done.



The two Newshub polls on the issue both suggest only about 20% of people actually agree with you.

Author:  Thai guy [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

deadduck wrote:
Thai guy wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
Funny huh. Took a 23 year old Canadian girl to expose an issue we didn't even know we had.
There is no issue. NZ is just taking out the trash. About time we stood up for ourselves again in the way we did in against apartheid 1981 and against nuclear proliferation in 1987.

As literally everyone agrees, these two youtubers speak hate and division. Their racist utterings are all over the free platform youtube for everyone to see and the people of NZ saw it and said 'fuck off already'.

Job done.



The two Newshub polls on the issue both suggest only about 20% of people actually agree with you.
There's been polls on whether you agree or not with the Canadian's views? Please point to them.

What I'm saying here is that almost no-one publicly agrees with anything these two alt-right disciples say, yet they do have a lot of 'anonymous' support...

Author:  guy smiley [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

So here's the reason the talk was called off, apparently...

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zeal ... event.html

Quote:
On Tuesday, Vice Chancellor Jan Thomas called off the event because of what she called "security concerns" - a move which has since been criticised by politicians including Chris Hipkins, Paula Bennett and Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern.

"I made the decision - it was not an easy decision at all - based on my concern for potential violence on our campus," she told RadioLIVE hosts Ryan Bridge and Christine Rankin.

Vice Chancellor Thomas mentioned seeing threatening comments about the event on social media, although declined to go into specifics other than saying one person had mentioned bringing a gun to campus.

Newshub has learned that two specific Facebook comments prompted the cancellation.

One was a post on August 3 by a Palmerston North man believed to be a member of the Stormtroopers gang. He posted a link to the event page with the caption, "This guy lol...if your [sic] up to nothing wensday [sic] head up to massey uni," accompanied by a laughing emoji and a red circle with a cross through it.

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The second concerning remark was a Rotorua man's comment on that same post, which simply read: "Take a gun."

Massey University corporate communications director says those comments were considered "enough red flags to tip the balance" in the eyes of the Vice Chancellor.

He told Newshub that Massey University did alert the police about the comments, but by that point they had already decided to cancel the event because they "needed to act quickly".

Dr Brash said he was "appalled" at the university's decision, which he believes was motivated by comments he's made in the past about "Māori privilege", the use of Te Reo in public broadcasting and his beliefs about the Treaty of Waitangi.

Vice Chancellor Thomas told RadioLIVE that Dr Brash's views are incompatible with Massey, which undertook a new initiative in 2017 to communicate that the university is "Te Tiriti o Waitangi-led".


That very last sentence kinda betrays her motivations a tad, yeah?

Author:  Thai guy [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NZ Politics Thread

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Funny huh. Took a 23 year old Canadian girl to expose an issue we didn't even know we had.
There is no issue. NZ is just taking out the trash. About time we stood up for ourselves again in the way we did in against apartheid 1981 and against nuclear proliferation in 1987.

As literally everyone agrees, these two youtubers speak hate and division. Their racist utterings are all over the free platform youtube for everyone to see and the people of NZ saw it and said 'fuck off already'.

Job done.



The two Newshub polls on the issue both suggest only about 20% of people actually agree with you.
There's been polls on whether you agree or not with the Canadian's views? Please point to them.

What I'm saying here is that almost no-one publicly agrees with anything these two alt-right disciples say, yet they do have a lot of 'anonymous' support...


Quite right. Imagine having you turn up at my place of work with a mega phone and placard yelling 'racist!' and demanding I be fired and excommunicated. We're not dealing with people who are fully right in the head here.
I know you are on a phone, on a train, going to a job you hate but is this even relevant?

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