Chat Forum
It is currently Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:12 am

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 31167 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 732, 733, 734, 735, 736, 737, 738 ... 780  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:30 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:18 pm
Posts: 1705
Yeah....the tax question works both ways though....more tax or tax cuts.

Is living wage still on the table.....or will it be axed?

Are there any asset sales planned? There's plenty of policies to be viewed and considered before the voting starts.

Also see jobs are back to 57% (av) of precovid........and just a quick look at one sector, teaching,....there are 750 vacancies currently.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:42 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:56 pm
Posts: 9919
Interesting post on Kiwiblog today from a 'Nosenholder', who recognises the direction if things and has a way to resist it. The question is how many Nosehoksera are out there? I couldn't identify a single one on this site. Every one here is either all in or never in. The Noseholders are the Key.

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2020/07/gues ... arker.html

Quote:
I probably have little in common with a lot of Kiwiblog readers. I’m pro gay marriage, anti smacking, pro decriminalisation of marijuana, support increasing our military by 100% and our police by 50% and funding it via a lot more taxation, nationalising a lot of key industries, and generally could be seen as a leftie. Even worse, I’m a public servant – yes, a dreaded “trougher.”

But the fact is, in the current times, I have a lot more in common with people here than I do with my supposedly “traditional” leftie allies. And it’s all to do with freedom of speech, freedom of opinion, and censorship.

I’ve stated my opinions, but I don’t expect everybody to agree with them. I like debate. I think people can be vitriolically anti-gay. They can say they think homosexuality is evil and should be punishable by death; that’s their opinion, and they have a right to it. It’s not my opinion, and I would try my best to convince them otherwise, but I would never hold they couldn’t have their own opinion.

This “window of opinion” was as broad as could be in the 1980s. Libertarians. Anarchists. Socialists. Big “C” Conservatives. It was a time of intellectual ferment and difference of opinions. It was a child of the liberalism of the 1960s.

Today, that window has shut, and it’s getting darker. The window of acceptable opinion is so narrow nowadays it reminds me of the Victorian era; instead of whether we’re revealing an ankle, it’s whether we’re mispronouncing Taupo. The so-called liberals are about as illiberal as can be. Freedom of speech is being shut down. We cannot have the fundamental debates about what is right, what is wrong, and what’s inbetween because there is a baying crowd that has already decided. I think George Floyd was murdered for being black. Others may disagree. They have the right to their view, and the right to a civil debate.

The “safetyists” will say that there is no need for civil debate when people’s lives or safety are at risk. That’s hypocritical; they are taking it as a given that human safety is the ultimate ethical imperative, when it’s exactly the sort of thing that is open for debate. The people of Great Britain thought that defiance, democracy, and true liberalism were more important in 1940 than saving lives by surrendering to Hitler. Alexander the Great thought fairness in war was more important than achieving an easier, less costly victory by advancing at night. Humanity has always considered some virtues more important than life and safety at specific times and places. What matters is the freedom to debate which values are more important than safety at a given time. If a slave risked his life for freedom, was he doing the right thing? Modern safetyists would be contorted in knots trying to justify that action, as it would bring into conflict their own preconceptions.

I want a country – and a world – where regardless of the economic system or political system, we have the freedom to debate everything. Where ethics classes at universities can ask whether murder or slavery can ever be morally justified. Where people can protest, or not protest, without immense peer pressure.

As a public servant, I value my political neutrality, but it is becoming harder and harder as so many politically-loaded activities (such as karakia before meetings) are loaded in and seen as “neutral” (i.e. they are so normalised now, nobody sees how political they truly are). There are examples the other way; the normalcy of capitalism, for example, is never questioned even though that is also a political, not a technical, viewpoint. When Auckland Council banned those speakers from community facilities, they were bringing politics into a bureaucratic decision.

I hope I haven’t waffled too much, but that my central point – we are losing freedom of debate – has come through. I don’t know what to do.

I’ll be voting National this year, not because I like them, but because they’re the lesser of two evils.

If Trump was here, even though I believe he’s likely a halfwit, sex offending, buffoon, I’d vote for him. Simply because I would feel my freedom of debate would be stronger under him than it would be under Ardern


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:46 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:22 am
Posts: 1040
Location: Aotearoa
I'm pretty sure that's fake.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:49 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 586
"I hope I haven’t waffled too much, but that my central point – we are losing freedom of debate – has come through. I don’t know what to do."
Definite more waffle than debate.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:51 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:18 pm
Posts: 1705
Yup......the electioneering has statred.......work of an influencer?

I'm a swing voter between Nats..NZ1...Green....Lab..........

When the policies turn up, I'll back those whose policies tip the balance for me......


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:59 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:56 pm
Posts: 9919
And to illustrate the point, three responses all about the writer or context and none about the substance. There will be one about me soon. 8)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:26 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 17359
Santa wrote:
And to illustrate the point, three responses all about the writer or context and none about the substance. There will be one about me soon. 8)


That's because there's fuckall substance worth the description.

It's almost always about you, baby. ;)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:19 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 16114
Anyone care to predict NZF's future after the general election?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:36 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 19500
Location: End of the road, turn right and first house on the left
Tehui wrote:
Anyone care to predict NZF's future after the general election?


Peters to retire and NZF will die in days

Slush fund found to contain $100m


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:18 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 5978
Slush fund will be epic for COVID. NZ first won’t get near it. Hallelujah to be sung in the streets.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:00 pm 
Online
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 28, 2017 2:38 am
Posts: 5450
Location: NZ
I see the govts much vaunted and self sacrificing 20% pay cuts have not happened which seems to have gone under the radar.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:22 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:41 am
Posts: 4330
Muttonbirds wrote:
I'm pretty sure that's fake.

Maybe, but that's a pretty accurate picture of the lived experience of anyone working in the Wellington part of the public service over the last 25 years.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:52 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 19500
Location: End of the road, turn right and first house on the left
Wednesday National criticises government for increasing fuel excise tax.

Friday announces $570 million roading plan (probably the first of many knowing them) using fuel excise tax money. They really lurch from bad to worse.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:08 am 
Online
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 28, 2017 2:38 am
Posts: 5450
Location: NZ
Enzedder wrote:
Wednesday National criticises government for increasing fuel excise tax.

Friday announces $570 million roading plan (probably the first of many knowing them) using fuel excise tax money. They really lurch from bad to worse.


I know you are trying to be edgy and hype it up, but all fuel excise is supposed to go on roads and transport, so not sure what your point is.

Maybe they can use the cash from the Auckland fuel tax that was meant to go on the light rail Labour failed on spectacularly..........again.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:06 am 
Online
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 28, 2017 2:38 am
Posts: 5450
Location: NZ
And the incompetence never ends.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12345363

Quote:
Covid 19 coronavirus patients' details leaked: Investigation launched as agencies scramble

Confidential patient details of all the active Covid-19 cases in New Zealand have been leaked, including their names and dates of birth.

The massive breach of privacy contains the details of 18 confirmed cases, ranging from a 30-year-old woman in Auckland to a 70-year-old man in Canterbury.

It includes the personal details of the man in his 30s receiving care in Auckland City Hospital.

The leaked spreadsheet, seen by the Weekend Herald, also shows which border facility the Covid-positive people were staying in when they tested positive and where they were moved for quarantine.

Newly appointed Health Minister Chris Hipkins said the leak was "totally unacceptable" and potentially criminal.

Hipkins took over the responsibility of the health portfolio on Thursday after David Clark resigned a series of blunders.

He has asked the State Services Commission, another portfolio Hipkins is responsible for, to work with the relevant agencies to ensure there is a thorough investigation.

"I have been advised by the Ministry of Health that at this stage it cannot be confirmed beyond doubt whether a deliberate leak was involved or if this was simply human error.

"If it was the former, it is unconscionable and absolutely beggars belief why anyone would feel it was an acceptable action to take, given the trauma it is likely to cause those whose information is involved. It would, quite frankly, be abhorrent, and potentially criminal.

"Either way, it cannot happen again.

"The public has every right to expect their private information to be held securely."

One Weekend Herald journalist has seen the spreadsheet. The information has been kept secure and the publication will not contact the people included in the leak.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:08 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:22 am
Posts: 1040
Location: Aotearoa
Chris Bishop's office bound to be involved.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:16 am 
Online
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 28, 2017 2:38 am
Posts: 5450
Location: NZ
Muttonbirds wrote:
Chris Bishop's office bound to be involved.



:lol: :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:12 am 
Online
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:14 am
Posts: 6923
Location: NZ
Is it a confirmed leak? It sounds like they are looking into things to confirm if it was deliberate or in error.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:38 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:22 am
Posts: 1040
Location: Aotearoa
Form an orderly line please. There is now a queue to get back into the country.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/122055339/air-nz-will-bump-passengers-off-international-flights-to-ease-pressure-on-quarantine


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:05 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:18 pm
Posts: 1705
Sensible approach.........like drafting sheep into the holding pens in the shearing shed. Stop loading them in when the sheds full.

An advantage.....less people to manage in quarantine.....and isolation.......should stop the old ewes escaping through the hedges.....


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:23 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 10482
Location: Texas
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:35 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 19500
Location: End of the road, turn right and first house on the left
That's smart doing it thru Air NZ as any Government move to refuse entry would be illegal.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:00 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 19601
Enzedder wrote:
That's smart doing it thru Air NZ as any Government move to refuse entry would be illegal.

Fig leaf only.

The govt is wholly and solely driving it.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:07 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 19500
Location: End of the road, turn right and first house on the left
Well AirNZ would normally not be declining bookings in this "climate" that's for sure.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:11 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 5959
I don't get why they will use hotels in Qtown, surely the most expensive place in the country. There must be plenty of cheaper options in the smaller towns like Te Kuiti, Thames, Gisborne. Plenty of towns have a hotel or motel which are hardly used.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:13 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 12683
obelixtim wrote:
I don't get why they will use hotels in Qtown, surely the most expensive place in the country. There must be plenty of cheaper options in the smaller towns like Te Kuiti, Thames, Gisborne. Plenty of towns have a hotel or motel which are hardly used.

Put them up in Palmy - that will cull some of the numbers returning instantly.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:30 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 10482
Location: Texas
UncleFB wrote:
obelixtim wrote:
I don't get why they will use hotels in Qtown, surely the most expensive place in the country. There must be plenty of cheaper options in the smaller towns like Te Kuiti, Thames, Gisborne. Plenty of towns have a hotel or motel which are hardly used.

Put them up in Palmy - that will cull some of the numbers returning instantly.
I suspect the U.N. would have something to say about that. Where’s the kindness?

I’m surprised we aren’t looking to monetize our competitive advantage of having COVID controlled in the community. We could aggressive market access for high net worth individuals, who would fund their own quarantine and pay some outrageous visa fees to jump the queue. Silicon Valley and parts of Asia and Europe would have plenty of wealthy folks willing and able to buy their way into a slice of the Kiwi dream.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:34 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 12683
Mr Mike wrote:
UncleFB wrote:
obelixtim wrote:
I don't get why they will use hotels in Qtown, surely the most expensive place in the country. There must be plenty of cheaper options in the smaller towns like Te Kuiti, Thames, Gisborne. Plenty of towns have a hotel or motel which are hardly used.

Put them up in Palmy - that will cull some of the numbers returning instantly.
I suspect the U.N. would have something to say about that. Where’s the kindness?

I’m surprised we aren’t looking to monetize our competitive advantage of having COVID controlled in the community. We could aggressive market access for high net worth individuals, who would fund their own quarantine and pay some outrageous visa fees to jump the queue. Silicon Valley and parts of Asia and Europe would have plenty of wealthy folks willing and able to buy their way into a slice of the Kiwi dream.

:lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:34 am 
Online
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 4771
Location: The other side of midnight
Mr Mike wrote:
UncleFB wrote:
obelixtim wrote:
I don't get why they will use hotels in Qtown, surely the most expensive place in the country. There must be plenty of cheaper options in the smaller towns like Te Kuiti, Thames, Gisborne. Plenty of towns have a hotel or motel which are hardly used.

Put them up in Palmy - that will cull some of the numbers returning instantly.
I suspect the U.N. would have something to say about that. Where’s the kindness?

I’m surprised we aren’t looking to monetize our competitive advantage of having COVID controlled in the community. We could aggressive market access for high net worth individuals, who would fund their own quarantine and pay some outrageous visa fees to jump the queue. Silicon Valley and parts of Asia and Europe would have plenty of wealthy folks willing and able to buy their way into a slice of the Kiwi dream.


But we are, the Avatar production lot breezed in


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:34 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 10482
Location: Texas
jambanja wrote:
Mr Mike wrote:
UncleFB wrote:
obelixtim wrote:
I don't get why they will use hotels in Qtown, surely the most expensive place in the country. There must be plenty of cheaper options in the smaller towns like Te Kuiti, Thames, Gisborne. Plenty of towns have a hotel or motel which are hardly used.

Put them up in Palmy - that will cull some of the numbers returning instantly.
I suspect the U.N. would have something to say about that. Where’s the kindness?

I’m surprised we aren’t looking to monetize our competitive advantage of having COVID controlled in the community. We could aggressive market access for high net worth individuals, who would fund their own quarantine and pay some outrageous visa fees to jump the queue. Silicon Valley and parts of Asia and Europe would have plenty of wealthy folks willing and able to buy their way into a slice of the Kiwi dream.


But we are, the Avatar production lot breezed in

Too limited, we need to think big..


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:39 am 
Online
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 4771
Location: The other side of midnight
Mr Mike wrote:
jambanja wrote:
Mr Mike wrote:
UncleFB wrote:
obelixtim wrote:
I don't get why they will use hotels in Qtown, surely the most expensive place in the country. There must be plenty of cheaper options in the smaller towns like Te Kuiti, Thames, Gisborne. Plenty of towns have a hotel or motel which are hardly used.

Put them up in Palmy - that will cull some of the numbers returning instantly.
I suspect the U.N. would have something to say about that. Where’s the kindness?

I’m surprised we aren’t looking to monetize our competitive advantage of having COVID controlled in the community. We could aggressive market access for high net worth individuals, who would fund their own quarantine and pay some outrageous visa fees to jump the queue. Silicon Valley and parts of Asia and Europe would have plenty of wealthy folks willing and able to buy their way into a slice of the Kiwi dream.


But we are, the Avatar production lot breezed in

Too limited, we need to think big..

It's a start, but yes safety to the highest bidder, it'll do wonder for property prices


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:16 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 32822
Location: in transit
Mr Mike wrote:
we need to think big..


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:23 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 19500
Location: End of the road, turn right and first house on the left
He said think big, not think Pig


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:33 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:22 am
Posts: 1040
Location: Aotearoa
When NZ announced a 4 week lockdown from 26 March there were many on both sides of the Tasman saying NZ had got it wrong and you didn't need to be so strict because, the economy or something.

We eradicated the disease with this approach and our government was widely praised for it but still there were critics many pointing to Victoria's much less strict Covid 19 measures.

We had our own Kiwi resident in Melbourne who got very upset at the positive coverage Jacinda Ardern got.

The breaking news today is Victoria is considering a 4 week lockdown of its own, as if they have finally realised what is required to get on top of this pernicious disease.

Imagine how much better the health and economic outcomes for Victoria would have been if they'd just done what NZ did in the first place.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/07/australian-state-considering-four-week-lockdown.html


Last edited by Muttonbirds on Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:36 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:36 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 32822
Location: in transit
https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/two-ce ... the-sequel



Quote:
To most people born after 1990, “Think Big” probably means very little. A vague hint from a long-ago history class.

But to anyone around in New Zealand in the late 1970s and 1980s, Think Big was National Prime Minister Robert Muldoon’s infrastructure spend-up that was going to save the country from unemployment and the threat of rocketing oil prices.

Instead, it mired New Zealand in virtually unpayable debt.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:59 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 9021
Location: Sydney Town
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:05 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 17359
obelixtim wrote:
I don't get why they will use hotels in Qtown, surely the most expensive place in the country. There must be plenty of cheaper options in the smaller towns like Te Kuiti, Thames, Gisborne. Plenty of towns have a hotel or motel which are hardly used.


Given a paucity of the usual income generators, i.e. tourists, and if there is excess capacity, it's probably as cheap as anywhere.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:07 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 17359
guy smiley wrote:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/two-cents-worth/story/2018734102/think-big-the-sequel



Quote:
To most people born after 1990, “Think Big” probably means very little. A vague hint from a long-ago history class.

But to anyone around in New Zealand in the late 1970s and 1980s, Think Big was National Prime Minister Robert Muldoon’s infrastructure spend-up that was going to save the country from unemployment and the threat of rocketing oil prices.

Instead, it mired New Zealand in virtually unpayable debt.


Bill Birch wasn't without guilt.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:18 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:22 am
Posts: 1040
Location: Aotearoa
Auckman wrote:
Image
Yep, pretty good summation.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:41 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:05 am
Posts: 32822
Location: in transit
Auckman wrote:
Image

:lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup:


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 31167 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 732, 733, 734, 735, 736, 737, 738 ... 780  Next

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: booji boy, Boxcar Ira, Clogs, danthefan, Dark, earl the beaver, El Homerino, Farva, Fat Old Git, Ghost-Of-Nepia, Google Adsense [Bot], inactionman, irishrugbyua, jambanja, JB1981, Jeff the Bear, JPNZ, message #2527204, MungoMan, pieman99, RodneyRegis, Rumham, sonic_attack, ticketlessinseattle, UncleFB, Windguru, WoodlandsRFC, Zakar, ZappaMan and 99 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group