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Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:12 am
by Eugenius
jambanja wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:02 am
Kahu wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:42 pm I'm glad we lost out on the RC. I'm still praying that hopefully it doesn't go ahead at all. It's the tournament that no one wants except broadcasters and governing bodies. The players don't want it and neither do the fans.
Huh? You're going to have to walk me through this, firstly why would the players not want it, it kinda what they do for a living.
Secondly most fan I know can't wait for it, so not sure how you've come up with that idea

They certainly didn’t want to miss Xmas away from their families .

I thought the government offered a very reasonable compromise safety wise .

The Pumas are riddled with the virus .

Does this mean that a rather desperate ARU might hold these games now with out a decent crowd ?

Utterly underwhelming.

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:38 am
by jambanja
Eugenius wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:12 am
jambanja wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:02 am
Kahu wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:42 pm I'm glad we lost out on the RC. I'm still praying that hopefully it doesn't go ahead at all. It's the tournament that no one wants except broadcasters and governing bodies. The players don't want it and neither do the fans.
Huh? You're going to have to walk me through this, firstly why would the players not want it, it kinda what they do for a living.
Secondly most fan I know can't wait for it, so not sure how you've come up with that idea

They certainly didn’t want to miss Xmas away from their families .

I thought the government offered a very reasonable compromise safety wise .

The Pumas are riddled with the virus .

Does this mean that a rather desperate ARU might hold these games now with out a decent crowd ?

Utterly underwhelming.
I'm withdrawing my comment, it seems there are a number of players who do not want to be away from their families for the 10 weeks that they will be away, for good reason too, they have young families and in Barretts case not yet born but due soon, so I'm now agreeing with you and Kahu, that a watered down version, not just the ABs but the Boks and Pumas too, is going to be a bit of a damp squib

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:55 am
by Eugenius
Sadly - :(

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:57 am
by JB1981
A former Springbok captain was reported today saying he doesn’t want the team to go. He doesn’t see the build up as sufficient given their lack of rugby and fears they won’t be able to perform.

With watered down squads, lack of prep and playing in the summer heat, the only ones benefiting from this will be the asterisk makers.

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:03 am
by Dark
Is it just me or she seriously looking a bit too skinny lately?

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:06 am
by kiwigreg369
I don't remember the same concern when the tournament was in NZ (excluding the obvious change for two weeks quarantine).

I think the union should look at what is appropriate for individuals and families - but it is they that want a full TRC so they get full $$ from the broadcasters. They don't want to discount it. By implication players only get the money they get because of those broadcast $$.

They can't have it every way - less games, less broadcast $, less pay for players - that's the reality.

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:54 am
by Fat Old Git
Tbf it's not surprising that it wasn't a concern for the ABs when it was going to be in NZ as the issues weren't going to affect them.

Anyway, today's level restriction reviews seem sensible to me. A lot of the new community cases have been close contacts who went into isolation after being identified, but a lot haven't fallen into that category.

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:23 am
by Dark
Looks like a Bled' game is going to be on election day. Interesting

Along with Bathurst qualifying

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:09 am
by Hareaway
Dark wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:23 am Looks like a Bled' game is going to be on election day. Interesting

Along with Bathurst qualifying
This Game has to be in Dunedin ...

How did we go from Stadiums full of fans to being way behind Australia ?

We haven’t had a case of Covid here since we had full crowds ... why are we being punished ?

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:32 am
by Hareaway
Just watched the news and kinda looking like we will lose the Bled and the RC .. what a cluster

Still got the Mitre 10 cup ... chur 🤙

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:40 am
by booji boy
Hareaway wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:32 am Just watched the news and kinda looking like we will lose the Bled and the RC .. what a cluster

Still got the Mitre 10 cup ... chur 🤙
Be kind, we've got this.

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:31 am
by Auckman
I reckon they should cancel the Rugby Championship. Sanzaar are just trying to rush it. Half the all black team don't want to go, half the Argentine team has covid19, and none of the boks or pumas players have played any type of rugby for half the year.

Save it for next year and plan it properly.

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:36 pm
by booji boy
Auckman wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:31 am I reckon they should cancel the Rugby Championship. Sanzaar are just trying to rush it. Half the all black team don't want to go, half the Argentine team has covid19, and none of the boks or pumas players have played any type of rugby for half the year.

Save it for next year and plan it properly.
I love the way half the All Blacks are now crying off like a bunch of sooks yet we expected the Pumas and Boks to do the same whether it was hosted in NZ as originally planned or if it is hosted in Australia. What makes our players so precious/special?

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:15 am
by Tehui
booji boy wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:36 pm
Auckman wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:31 am I reckon they should cancel the Rugby Championship. Sanzaar are just trying to rush it. Half the all black team don't want to go, half the Argentine team has covid19, and none of the boks or pumas players have played any type of rugby for half the year.

Save it for next year and plan it properly.
I love the way half the All Blacks are now crying off like a bunch of sooks yet we expected the Pumas and Boks to do the same whether it was hosted in NZ as originally planned or if it is hosted in Australia. What makes our players so precious/special?
I'm assuming that the players who don't want to go, are ok with not being paid?

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:41 am
by JB1981
Dark wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:23 am Looks like a Bled' game is going to be on election day. Interesting

Along with Bathurst qualifying
They have avoided an Election Day clash with the games to be played on 11 and 18 October (Sundays). They are 3:30pm kickoffs too :o.

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:46 am
by jambanja
Tehui wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:15 am
booji boy wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:36 pm
Auckman wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:31 am I reckon they should cancel the Rugby Championship. Sanzaar are just trying to rush it. Half the all black team don't want to go, half the Argentine team has covid19, and none of the boks or pumas players have played any type of rugby for half the year.

Save it for next year and plan it properly.
I love the way half the All Blacks are now crying off like a bunch of sooks yet we expected the Pumas and Boks to do the same whether it was hosted in NZ as originally planned or if it is hosted in Australia. What makes our players so precious/special?
I'm assuming that the players who don't want to go, are ok with not being paid?
Apparently the first time Richie Mo knew he didn’t want to go was when he read about it in the press, now this may well be true or someone (Fozzie and co) have had a word and asked the players to have a think about which side their bread is buttered

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:56 am
by Dark
JB1981 wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:41 am
Dark wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:23 am Looks like a Bled' game is going to be on election day. Interesting

Along with Bathurst qualifying
They have avoided an Election Day clash with the games to be played on 11 and 18 October (Sundays). They are 3:30pm kickoffs too :o.
Cool

:thumbup:

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:14 am
by Kahu
Dark wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:03 am Is it just me or she seriously looking a bit too skinny lately?
If I was the first man I'd be feeding her up on whitebait fritters and kawhai sashimi and having her do leg day every morning. Probably encourage a trip to Thailand to perk her up too

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:17 am
by Santa
In other news this looks like a disaster in the offing.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/30010864 ... omist-says

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:26 am
by Santa
Herald view. Summary: not as bad a first thought but worse for longer.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12365335

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:27 am
by Wignu
They're probably both about as accurate as the predicted 10% (or thereabouts) downturn in the property market.

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:10 pm
by grouch
Hareaway wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:32 am Just watched the news and kinda looking like we will lose the Bled and the RC .. what a cluster

Still got the Mitre 10 cup ... chur 🤙
Another victory for the visionless accountants.

After 1 round of NPC with full AB participation , the decision to once again gut the best Rugby Tournament in the world in order to bolster the competitive capabilities of our greatest International rivals, makes even less sense than most of events of 2020.

:frown:

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:34 am
by Fat Old Git
No new cases of Covid-19 today. After several days of all the positives being in managed isolation.

:thumbup:

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:36 am
by Kahu
Image

The PM practising social distancing. Meanwhile National announce tax cuts.

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:06 am
by booji boy
As Shanky said. It's a cult.

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:22 am
by obelixtim
Kahu wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:36 am Image

The PM practising social distancing. Meanwhile National announce tax cuts.
Photo taken in 2019...

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:56 pm
by Flockwitt
Is it? (tried to verify but all I got was Stuff's article and tweets about it - or am I being whooshed?)

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:43 pm
by brat
Flockwitt wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:56 pm Is it? (tried to verify but all I got was Stuff's article and tweets about it - or am I being whooshed?)
Think it’s sept 17th 2020

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:40 pm
by Kahu
obelixtim wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:22 am
Kahu wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:36 am Image

The PM practising social distancing. Meanwhile National announce tax cuts.
Photo taken in 2019...
https://i.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard ... north-seat

Not according to this...

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:06 am
by Wignu
Whilst that is probably correct it is Stuff so I wouldn't rely on it 100%!

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:45 am
by Kahu
Just a coincidence the other photo in the article shows her talking to the Palmerston North mayor and local Labour candidate whilst wearing the same outfit? Wasnt Iain Lees-Galloway the Palmerston North MP in 2019? Shouldn't he be in the photo instead?

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:49 am
by obelixtim
brat wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:43 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:56 pm Is it? (tried to verify but all I got was Stuff's article and tweets about it - or am I being whooshed?)
Think it’s sept 17th 2020
Publishing date does not necessarily equate to the date of the photo. Could be a stock photo, or could have been taken during level 1, if not last year.

A bit like Trump tweeting photos of riots in Europe but saying the photo was taken in Seattle. Bullshit.

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:23 am
by Kahu
Obelixtim, I believe you might be suffering from Ardern Derangement Syndrome.

The photo isn't a stock photo from 2019. It's a photo from Thursday the 17th of September 2020.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics ... ssion=true

I'm not even bothered by her breaking the rules. Can't say I've abided by them myself since my return to Aotearoa in June. I just find it funny.

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:31 am
by Ghost-Of-Nepia
obelixtim wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:49 am
brat wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:43 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:56 pm Is it? (tried to verify but all I got was Stuff's article and tweets about it - or am I being whooshed?)
Think it’s sept 17th 2020
Publishing date does not necessarily equate to the date of the photo. Could be a stock photo, or could have been taken during level 1, if not last year.

A bit like Trump tweeting photos of riots in Europe but saying the photo was taken in Seattle. Bullshit.
Try reading the photo caption:

"Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern grabs a selfie with fans at Massey University in Palmerston North on Thursday."

Along with the other point made by Kahu that she is wearing the same jacket in the other photo which features her with the Labour candidate who was only selected a month or two back. I can't be bothered looking through the Ministerial diaries, but I'm sure the PM doesn't have Palmy on her high-rotate visit list.

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:52 am
by Dark
Far out, the election bribes are being thrown out in all directions now, by both the Nats and Labour

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:02 am
by Eugenius
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rnz.co ... 362c1c7b01


Oops a daisy !!!

Hey it’s only a few Billion after all .

Jesus what a shitshow.

What a brilliant and competent minister of finance we have in waiting .

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:14 am
by Dark
Eugenius wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:02 am https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rnz.co ... 362c1c7b01


Oops a daisy !!!

Hey it’s only a few Billion after all .

Jesus what a shitshow.
Agree

It is a bit like someone promising 100,000 houses and a billion trees

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:20 am
by Dark
While also promising
A CGT
And losing 90 day trials
And losing 3 strikes
And not raising taxes
And sorting child poverty which has got worse
And the housing waiting list which has doubled
And an extra fueline to Auckland airport

And being the most open and transparent govt.... like evers

How many of those have they failed on again?

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:13 pm
by Santa
This looks awesome.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/educatio ... admissions
For the 2020 intake, 120 of the 202 places available to first year Health Sciences students went to those entering under special categories. Of those, 79 (39 per cent) were Māori and Pasifika.

...

The man, who asked not to be named, said his child completed the health sciences course at Otago University last year straight from high school. The student achieved A+ grades for the requisite papers and a UCAT (an intelligence/suitability test) result above the 90th percentile. His child was denied entry.

Māori and Pasifika applicants were accepted for 2020 with B- averages and no consideration of UCAT scores.

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:30 am
by Eugenius
Edgy stuff from Santa !!

From my enquires there’s only a slight gap between grades required - certainly not A+ to B-.