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Dark wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:37 am
Enzedder wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:31 am
Dark wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:22 am
brat wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:16 am Can anyone tell me why the media keep saying that over half of voters voted for labour..is this correct?

Edit sorry I mean the majority.. obviously they got majority seats but did they got majority of votes?
Nope

Turnout - 2,877,117 (Total votes so far 2,397,117)

Popular vote - 1,171,544
Where did you get 2.8m from?
https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2020/1 ... ults-live/

Elections.nz shows 2,383,796 https://www.electionresults.govt.nz/ele ... eliminary/ so probably best we stick with that
Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_New_ ... l_election

Yours is the number of currently counted.

Mine the number of votes received including not counted yet.

So you could possibly say they won over 50% of those that are counted, but it is a of untrue hype to say the election yet.
You tried to make the point that far fewer than 50% of votes went to Labour by using Labour votes counted at 1171544 as a proportion of total votes 2877117, which includes 480000 uncounted.

Then you backtracked.

This of course will all be too much for you to understand because you are as thick as mince.
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Muttonbirds wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:59 am
Dark wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:37 am
Enzedder wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:31 am
Dark wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:22 am
brat wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:16 am Can anyone tell me why the media keep saying that over half of voters voted for labour..is this correct?

Edit sorry I mean the majority.. obviously they got majority seats but did they got majority of votes?
Nope

Turnout - 2,877,117 (Total votes so far 2,397,117)

Popular vote - 1,171,544
Where did you get 2.8m from?
https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2020/1 ... ults-live/

Elections.nz shows 2,383,796 https://www.electionresults.govt.nz/ele ... eliminary/ so probably best we stick with that
Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_New_ ... l_election

Yours is the number of currently counted.

Mine the number of votes received including not counted yet.

So you could possibly say they won over 50% of those that are counted, but it is a of untrue hype to say the election yet.
You tried to make the point that far fewer than 50% of votes went to Labour by using Labour votes counted at 1171544 as a proportion of total votes 2877117, which includes 480000 uncounted.

Then you backtracked.

This of course will all be too much for you to understand because you are clearly as thick as mince.
The first comment doesn't make the distinction between whether they mean (the media) on the day, or 2020 election, Brightless wonder.
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No, you answered brat claiming just 1171544 of 2877117 went to Labour. You used these numbers in a direct answer to his question about majority of votes in a bizarre attempt to prove that just 40.7% votes went to Labour.
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So you thought you would compare apples with oranges to get rotten eggs.

Gotcha - you're related to Paul Goldsmith eh?
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OK Muttonbirds

I answered this
Can anyone tell me why the media keep saying that over half of voters voted for labour .
If you a claiming you know that all votes voters voted, even when 500,000 of these votes haven't been opened, you are more dim that I first thought........or psychic
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What's the party ACT like?
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Flyin Ryan wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:18 pm What's the party ACT like?
Nazis or small government liberals depending on who you ask.
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:lol:

This is who NZ has voted in to rebuild the economy.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RMarchNZ/sta ... 89/photo/1
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Santa wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:23 pm :lol:

This is who NZ has voted in to rebuild the economy.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RMarchNZ/sta ... 89/photo/1
https://mobile.twitter.com/coughlthom/s ... 16/photo/1

A bunch of thoroughbreds. :thumbup:
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It was hardly inspiring. There was the wealth will trickle down and somebody else can worry about where to get income election bribe options, the let's build a light rail to somewhere you'll need a car to get to option, and other brilliant proposals like raising the minimum wage to put more people out of work.
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Santa wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:51 pm
Santa wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:23 pm :lol:

This is who NZ has voted in to rebuild the economy.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RMarchNZ/sta ... 89/photo/1
https://mobile.twitter.com/coughlthom/s ... 16/photo/1

A bunch of thoroughbreds. :thumbup:
It must really make you moist that they are the "queerest" parliament in the world then.
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This week just keeps on getting better
A United Kingdom court has sentenced New Zealand businessman Eric Watson to a four-month jail term.

TVNZ reports a High Court judge in London found Watson in contempt of court for withholding information about his assets from philanthropist Sir Owen Glenn.

Watson's legal counsel has requested to apply for an appeal and requested that the sentencing not be immediate.

This marks the latest chapter in the bitter dispute between Watson and Glenn.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/new ... 1603128477
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Enzedder wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:54 pm This week just keeps on getting better
A United Kingdom court has sentenced New Zealand businessman Eric Watson to a four-month jail term.

TVNZ reports a High Court judge in London found Watson in contempt of court for withholding information about his assets from philanthropist Sir Owen Glenn.

Watson's legal counsel has requested to apply for an appeal and requested that the sentencing not be immediate.

This marks the latest chapter in the bitter dispute between Watson and Glenn.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/new ... 1603128477

So it will go on another 2 years then
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Santa wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:23 pm :lol:

This is who NZ has voted in to rebuild the economy.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RMarchNZ/sta ... 89/photo/1




Yet you consider Brownlee a safe pair of hands - 🙄

What a truly stupid man you are .
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I see that Judith is busy building walls and moats instead of bridges. God she is inept - thank God the majority of Kiwi voters are not dumb.
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Enzedder wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:12 am I see that Judith is busy building walls and moats instead of bridges.
Well logically it would be her instead of Simon.
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Santa’s not taking this well, he’s multi posting in a row and quoting himself. :lol:
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Enzedder wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:12 am I see that Judith is busy building walls and moats instead of bridges. God she is inept - thank God the majority of Kiwi voters are not dumb.
She always came across as an alien who came to Earth and tried to blend in pretending to be human. Any kind of social interaction was very unnatural. I realise that describes most politicians but her particularly so.
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Gotta say the mix at the after election Labour booze up was refreshing .

Huge range of people , suits and workers , hipsters ,muslims from mosque attack and a surprisingly amount of Asians with heaps of brown faces .

Talked to the Islamic guy that attacked the gun man and drove the prick away . Good guy and I was surprised how relaxed he and his brethren were surrounded by so many pissed people .

A few minor celebs pissed as well .

Bit of a hoot really .

Certainly a larger range than I noticed with the other parties and no dancing unicorns thank fudge .
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Collins, Brownlee and Nick Smith all staying on then. Not much chance of a refresh of the Party. Seem to be putting their head in the sand regarding the message from the election.

Mind you, if special votes break against Shane Reti in Whangarei and against the Nats in general, Smith could still be toast.
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Unbelievable and extremely entitled .

And Collins maintains that it’s the other side that can’t do anything else ?

Tone deaf ?
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UncleFB wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:10 am Santa’s not taking this well, he’s multi posting in a row and quoting himself. :lol:
He's the only person who will listen to himself.
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Eugenius wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:10 am Unbelievable and extremely entitled .

And Collins maintains that it’s the other side that can’t do anything else ?

Tone deaf ?
Massive lack of self awareness in the post above.
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Tehui wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:35 am
UncleFB wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:10 am Santa’s not taking this well, he’s multi posting in a row and quoting himself. :lol:
He's the only person who will listen to himself.
Ricardo Menéndez March is ten times the Kiwi Santa will ever be.
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Flyin Ryan wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:18 pm What's the party ACT like?
More able to do national law changes with one person than the entire Labour Party
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Gordon Bennett wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:32 am Collins, Brownlee and Nick Smith all staying on then. Not much chance of a refresh of the Party. Seem to be putting their head in the sand regarding the message from the election.

Mind you, if special votes break against Shane Reti in Whangarei and against the Nats in general, Smith could still be toast.
Brownlee was never going to go.

Only humorous interesting person at question time who can take the piss out of Mallardm as they are actually mates
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Eugenius wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:10 am Unbelievable and extremely entitled .

And Collins maintains that it’s the other side that can’t do anything else ?

Tone deaf ?
Did you wan't to look up a list of Labour MPs that left after losing after 3 times and compare for us?
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Newshub reporting there will be no formal coalition with the greens.

Still doesn't mean they will use them as ministers.

Did see interesting point made about how a lot of the labour mps this time around were raw because of the pastings they had copped previously. Hopefully they are more effective this term

National could now be on the same boat, will they be able to hang onto their younger talent so they are effective either in 2023 or 26 when they get back in.
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Muttonbirds wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:30 am
Tehui wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:35 am
UncleFB wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:10 am Santa’s not taking this well, he’s multi posting in a row and quoting himself. :lol:
He's the only person who will listen to himself.
Ricardo Menéndez March is ten times the Kiwi Santa will ever be.
Which comes first: conversion therapy legislation or house building? Under Labour they will likely affect the same number of people so it could be a draw. :thumbup:
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Brabus wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:58 am
Eugenius wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:10 am Unbelievable and extremely entitled .

And Collins maintains that it’s the other side that can’t do anything else ?

Tone deaf ?
Massive lack of self awareness in the post above.

I’m aware hanging on to Brownlee ( let alone as deputy ) is peak stupidity .
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Flyin Ryan wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:18 pm What's the party ACT like?
I can sum up ACT in one word. Bimboman.

Bimboman represents everything you need to know about the ACT party of New Zealand.

The name comes from the initials of the Association of Consumers and Taxpayers. :roll:
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Eugenius wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:22 am
Brabus wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:58 am
Eugenius wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:10 am Unbelievable and extremely entitled .

And Collins maintains that it’s the other side that can’t do anything else ?

Tone deaf ?
Massive lack of self awareness in the post above.

I’m aware hanging on to Brownlee ( let alone as deputy ) is peak stupidity .
After getting an absolute shafting these guys seem to have learned absolutely nothing. They come out of their dumb caucus meeting doubling down and still ranting about how great they are. :lol:

Here's an example. They still believe it was the leaking which led to their catastrophic loss. Newsflash, it's because they and their policies are a bunch of utter plum. Interesting watch this press conference...the Nats have a long, long way to go before they are out of the woods and Darth Ju is most certainly not the person the lead them there.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics ... akers.html
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The Greens claim cracked me up.

Most diverse party

10 MPs

70% female and 30% male

40% LGBT compared to out of NZ stats 3.5% population

Yeah massively diverse, unless you aren't a woke, easily triggered bunch of idiots.
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Should probably call themselves the "Straight dudes are bad Party) and make up t-shirts"
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Muttonbirds wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:26 am
Eugenius wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:22 am
Brabus wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:58 am
Eugenius wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:10 am Unbelievable and extremely entitled .

And Collins maintains that it’s the other side that can’t do anything else ?

Tone deaf ?
Massive lack of self awareness in the post above.

I’m aware hanging on to Brownlee ( let alone as deputy ) is peak stupidity .
After getting an absolute shafting these guys seem to have learned absolutely nothing. They come out of their dumb caucus meeting doubling down and still ranting about how great they are. :lol:

Here's an example. They still believe it was the leaking which led to their catastrophic loss. Newsflash, it's because they and their policies are a bunch of utter plum. Interesting watch this press conference...the Nats have a long, long way to go before they are out of the woods and Darth Ju is most certainly not the person the lead them there.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics ... akers.html
The Gnats were cold beans on toast the minute they shafted Muller & Keay and reverted to anti-cannabis sentiment.
The rot started with their support for the firearms fiasco - drain of votes to ACT
then shrieking the death cult capitalism lines about the economy and the urgency of opening NZ up during lockdown
final straw was Mrs Wong Tung [ whom everyone knows will be going thru the VIP entrance to hades] praying to all the media in a carefully chosen church.
The huge Labour party vote in Rural electorates confirms their loathing of hypocrites and a high percentage YES vote for Cannabis reform.
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I look at the picture of the Labour MPs and two words spring to mind: Alamein Kopu.
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That's how I see it too Grouch. By supporting the Firearms legislation post Chch it signalled the beginning of a new era for National however they got cold feet and couldn't maintain the facade. They never in hell had a snowballs chance of winning this election once Bridges & Bennett chose to take an oppositional stance on Covid and Cannabis. Had they swallowed their tongues and embraced being a progressive centre right party they might have had a chance at this election and would be in a much better position for 2023 but their poor showing here has most likely blown that too. All hail Queen Jacinda
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Santa wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:22 am I look at the picture of the Labour MPs and two words spring to mind: Alamein Kopu.
I read your last few posts and Matthew Hooton springs to mind. I usually like your posts Santa so I hope you come good soon. Chin up dude
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Kahu wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:31 am
Santa wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:22 am I look at the picture of the Labour MPs and two words spring to mind: Alamein Kopu.
I read your last few posts and Matthew Hooton springs to mind. I usually like your posts Santa so I hope you come good soon. Chin up dude
I'm fine. I'm worried about New Zealand. An inexperienced and largely operationally incompetent government has just been elected and given the power to act pretty well unilaterally, at a time when a steady hand and cool headed competence is urgently needed. That has largely been brought about by an opposition that itself is devastatingly incompetent. Shockingly so. National is still the party of Hooten and Farrar and those guys do not have a clue about the new political currents or realignments.
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It'll be Ok, worst comes to worst we'll just end up being a vassal state of the next great superpower :lol:
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