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That is the joy of a public forum. I get to watch the left ignore and try to divert from their open racism, to the point their leader is forced to apologise over iy NationallyRuggaBugga wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:16 amNo you misunderstand. nobody cares about your pathetic girly whinging.
Poll shows David Seymour above Judith Collins and Labour with twice the support of Nationa
A new poll shows the Labour Party with twice the support of National – and ACT's David Seymour ahead of Judith Collins.
The poll is not public and is from Labour’s pollster UMR, although the poll itself was prepared for corporate clients, not Labour itself.
It was first reported by The New Zealand Herald, but the numbers have been confirmed by Stuff.
It showed Labour at 48 per cent in the party vote, with twice the support National had at 24 per cent. ACT was on 11 per cent while the Green Party was on 8 per cent.
But while ACT was still far behind National, the party’s leader, Seymour, had overtaken Collins in the preferred prime minister stakes.
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern was still riding well above her competitors there, with 55 per cent support.
Sitting prime ministers generally enjoy much higher support than other party leaders.
Second behind Ardern was Seymour on 12 per cent, above Collins on 10 per cent. This was her worst result from a UMR poll since taking over as leader, and the first time Seymour had overtaken her.
Seymour said the result encouraged ACT to “go harder”.
“People know the Government’s got a great sales department, but something’s wrong in production. This result just encourages ACT to go harder on honest conversations about our country’s future,” Seymour said.
UMR conducts very regular tracking polls for the Labour Party, but this poll was part of a monthly omnibus series intended for corporate clients.
Collins said the poll covered a tough period for National.
“This is Labour’s pollsters. They only leak their polls when they are getting negative comments, like about their ute tax, He Puapua and the more than 4000 kids living in motels,” Collins said.
“National has been through a tough few weeks. The polling period covered Jake Bezzant, Nick Smith’s retirement and Todd Muller’s retirement at the election. But we’ll keep on track and focused on the things that matter to New Zealand.”
The poll was conducted between June 24 and July 1.
Further to this, here's a link to the podcast, plus a bunch of others.Ted. wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:29 pm Here's an article on the use of Aotearoa to collectively describe New Zealand, the way it has gained traction, especially among government departments and corporates, and the opposition to its use. There's also some background information in relation to Michael King's views and some history on the name.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politi ... r-aotearoa
I suspect this reflects how few credible alternatives there are for anyone who isn't that keen on voting for Labour or the Greens rather than ACT doing anything or particular note. Other than presenting as less of a basket case than National.Dark wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:37 am Don't see me ever voting ACT, but you have to admit at least Seymour has some put your words where your mouth is cred'
Collins is a tad fvcked I think.
Poll shows David Seymour above Judith Collins and Labour with twice the support of Nationa
A new poll shows the Labour Party with twice the support of National – and ACT's David Seymour ahead of Judith Collins.
The poll is not public and is from Labour’s pollster UMR, although the poll itself was prepared for corporate clients, not Labour itself.
It was first reported by The New Zealand Herald, but the numbers have been confirmed by Stuff.
It showed Labour at 48 per cent in the party vote, with twice the support National had at 24 per cent. ACT was on 11 per cent while the Green Party was on 8 per cent.
But while ACT was still far behind National, the party’s leader, Seymour, had overtaken Collins in the preferred prime minister stakes.
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern was still riding well above her competitors there, with 55 per cent support.
Sitting prime ministers generally enjoy much higher support than other party leaders.
Second behind Ardern was Seymour on 12 per cent, above Collins on 10 per cent. This was her worst result from a UMR poll since taking over as leader, and the first time Seymour had overtaken her.
Seymour said the result encouraged ACT to “go harder”.
“People know the Government’s got a great sales department, but something’s wrong in production. This result just encourages ACT to go harder on honest conversations about our country’s future,” Seymour said.
UMR conducts very regular tracking polls for the Labour Party, but this poll was part of a monthly omnibus series intended for corporate clients.
Collins said the poll covered a tough period for National.
“This is Labour’s pollsters. They only leak their polls when they are getting negative comments, like about their ute tax, He Puapua and the more than 4000 kids living in motels,” Collins said.
“National has been through a tough few weeks. The polling period covered Jake Bezzant, Nick Smith’s retirement and Todd Muller’s retirement at the election. But we’ll keep on track and focused on the things that matter to New Zealand.”
The poll was conducted between June 24 and July 1.
Another poll just released had labour on 43% and nation on 29% -probably more accurate than the one aboveDark wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:37 am Don't see me ever voting ACT, but you have to admit at least Seymour has some put your words where your mouth is cred'
Collins is a tad fvcked I think.
Poll shows David Seymour above Judith Collins and Labour with twice the support of Nationa
A new poll shows the Labour Party with twice the support of National – and ACT's David Seymour ahead of Judith Collins.
The poll is not public and is from Labour’s pollster UMR, although the poll itself was prepared for corporate clients, not Labour itself.
It was first reported by The New Zealand Herald, but the numbers have been confirmed by Stuff.
It showed Labour at 48 per cent in the party vote, with twice the support National had at 24 per cent. ACT was on 11 per cent while the Green Party was on 8 per cent.
But while ACT was still far behind National, the party’s leader, Seymour, had overtaken Collins in the preferred prime minister stakes.
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern was still riding well above her competitors there, with 55 per cent support.
Sitting prime ministers generally enjoy much higher support than other party leaders.
Second behind Ardern was Seymour on 12 per cent, above Collins on 10 per cent. This was her worst result from a UMR poll since taking over as leader, and the first time Seymour had overtaken her.
Seymour said the result encouraged ACT to “go harder”.
“People know the Government’s got a great sales department, but something’s wrong in production. This result just encourages ACT to go harder on honest conversations about our country’s future,” Seymour said.
UMR conducts very regular tracking polls for the Labour Party, but this poll was part of a monthly omnibus series intended for corporate clients.
Collins said the poll covered a tough period for National.
“This is Labour’s pollsters. They only leak their polls when they are getting negative comments, like about their ute tax, He Puapua and the more than 4000 kids living in motels,” Collins said.
“National has been through a tough few weeks. The polling period covered Jake Bezzant, Nick Smith’s retirement and Todd Muller’s retirement at the election. But we’ll keep on track and focused on the things that matter to New Zealand.”
The poll was conducted between June 24 and July 1.
I would still go with Mitchellbrat wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:02 am
Another poll just released had labour on 43% and nation on 29% -probably more accurate than the one above
That said, yes Collins needs to go
I think if they had someone like Nikki Kaye leading right now, National would probably be in the early 30s
Everyone can see that this gives incompetent- unfortunately there’s not a great alternative atm
Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:55 amCovid-19 deaths/million:
UK - 1900
USA - 1889
Australia - 36
NZ, under a Labour government - 5
Except they're not, they're well up in the rankings now.Dark wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:10 amMuttonbirds wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:55 amCovid-19 deaths/million:
UK - 1900
USA - 1889
Australia - 36
NZ, under a Labour government - 5
And second worst country in the world for vaccine roll out.
Any comment on that Mutton.
Think they are more worried about the billion dollar cycle bridge you support so much which no one else wants.
Lord knows what numbers Mutton is quoting
Apologies. Didn't realise you have no ability to read info'Enzedder wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:17 amLord knows what numbers Mutton is quoting
Lord knows where you are getting your stats from
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... acker.html
Dumb and Dumber debating is so fun to watch
YawnMuttonbirds wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:55 amCovid-19 deaths/million:
UK - 1900
USA - 1889
Australia - 36
NZ, under a Labour government - 5
Do you not know how to read dates, that graph is damn near 3 weeks old.Dark wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:28 amApologies. Didn't realise you have no ability to read info'Enzedder wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:17 amLord knows what numbers Mutton is quoting
Lord knows where you are getting your stats from
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... acker.html
Dumb and Dumber debating is so fun to watch
-https://www.9news.com.au/national/coron ... 689c39c467
Wignu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:46 amDo you not know how to read dates, that graph is damn near 3 weeks old.Dark wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:28 amApologies. Didn't realise you have no ability to read info'Enzedder wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:17 amLord knows what numbers Mutton is quoting
Lord knows where you are getting your stats from
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... acker.html
Dumb and Dumber debating is so fun to watch
-https://www.9news.com.au/national/coron ... 689c39c467
OK fair pointWignu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:54 am https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/448 ... n-auckland
Not perfect but a start, not that you'd care if it was 20,000 as it wouldn't suit your narrative.
A start?Wignu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:54 am https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/448 ... n-auckland
Not perfect but a start, not that you'd care if it was 20,000 as it wouldn't suit your narrative.
Cheers mate.JB1981 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:04 am This looks like current data and has some interesting representations.
https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coro ... nd-access/
Edit: perhaps not as current as the one above based on our percentage.
How many countries do you think there are in the world dumb arse? Ball park figure will do.Dark wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:28 amApologies. Didn't realise you have no ability to read info'Enzedder wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:17 amLord knows what numbers Mutton is quoting
Lord knows where you are getting your stats from
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... acker.html
Dumb and Dumber debating is so fun to watch
-https://www.9news.com.au/national/coron ... 689c39c467
I didn't write the link my slow minded friend, but guessing they are talking OECD.RuggaBugga wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:18 amHow many countries do you think there are in the world dumb arse? Ball park figure will do.Dark wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:28 amApologies. Didn't realise you have no ability to read info'Enzedder wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:17 amLord knows what numbers Mutton is quoting
Lord knows where you are getting your stats from
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... acker.html
Dumb and Dumber debating is so fun to watch
-https://www.9news.com.au/national/coron ... 689c39c467
Hint: It's more than 18
Shit, they've had the vaccine for a year & a half, didn't realise that!Dark wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:05 amA start?Wignu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:54 am https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/448 ... n-auckland
Not perfect but a start, not that you'd care if it was 20,000 as it wouldn't suit your narrative.
They have had more than a fvken year and a half
Fair point a whole year roughlyWignu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:26 amShit, they've had the vaccine for a year & a half, didn't realise that!Dark wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:05 amA start?Wignu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:54 am https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/448 ... n-auckland
Not perfect but a start, not that you'd care if it was 20,000 as it wouldn't suit your narrative.
They have had more than a fvken year and a half
Enzedder wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:17 amLord knows what numbers Mutton is quoting
Lord knows where you are getting your stats from
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... acker.html
Dumb and Dumber debating is so fun to watch
I got my numbers from the Worldometers Coronavirus stats page.Side topic Muttons.Muttonbirds wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:35 amEnzedder wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:17 amLord knows what numbers Mutton is quoting
Lord knows where you are getting your stats from
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... acker.html
Dumb and Dumber debating is so fun to watch
Only available since January so not even close to a year, with no guarantees set from Pfizer in February so even less time.Dark wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:32 amFair point a whole year roughlyWignu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:26 amShit, they've had the vaccine for a year & a half, didn't realise that!Dark wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:05 amA start?Wignu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:54 am https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/448 ... n-auckland
Not perfect but a start, not that you'd care if it was 20,000 as it wouldn't suit your narrative.
They have had more than a fvken year and a half
The govt chose to go only Pfizer ad said we were fron of the queue.Wignu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:56 amOnly available since January so not even close to a year, with no guarantees set from Pfizer in February so even less time.Dark wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:32 amFair point a whole year roughlyWignu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:26 amShit, they've had the vaccine for a year & a half, didn't realise that!Dark wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:05 amA start?Wignu wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:54 am https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/448 ... n-auckland
Not perfect but a start, not that you'd care if it was 20,000 as it wouldn't suit your narrative.
They have had more than a fvken year and a half
Explain what stats, don't have to explain anything to the likes of you. I will hold my verdict of the whole roll out towards the end of the year when we'll have a better idea of how it all went.
Yes, please do.Dark wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:24 amI didn't write the link my slow minded friend, but guessing they are talking OECD.RuggaBugga wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:18 amHow many countries do you think there are in the world dumb arse? Ball park figure will do.Dark wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:28 amApologies. Didn't realise you have no ability to read info'Enzedder wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:17 amLord knows what numbers Mutton is quoting
Lord knows where you are getting your stats from
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... acker.html
Dumb and Dumber debating is so fun to watch
-https://www.9news.com.au/national/coron ... 689c39c467
Hint: It's more than 18
Would you like me to explain what that means?
GDP per capita is 25% lower than
OECD best performers.
Productivity is 35% lower than
OECD best performers.
Not that those issues are new or specific to this government alone, but they're likely to be more interesting discussion points than trying to bag the current Government on it's Covid response.Inequality is higher than in most advanced economies.
Just a specific comment about the affordability index used. Ratio of average price to average wage isn't a true measure of affordability.guy smiley wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:06 pm Housing crisis... what crisis?
(apologies to Supertramp fans)
In the wake of the Human Rights Commission's announcement of an investigation into NZ's housing crisis, citing the right to a home and successive government failure to address that over decades, the response appears to be 'we're doing all we can'.
Yeah nah. That's not enough... and today's announcement from Grant Robertson that they'll tighten further the LVR's and debt to income ratios won't go anywhere towards providing homes for those who need it, instead aimed at 'cooling the market'. Too late, that's cooked.
I found this from Bernard Hickey outlining some steps the govt aren't taking to fix the housing market problem and I reckon it bears a looking at and a chatting about.