Official NFL 2020

Demilich · Post by **Demilich** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:30 am

Who supports who?

Main Team
Secondary Team

American Football Conference (AFC)

East

Buffalo Bills
Miami Dolphins - Wendigo7
New England Patriots - Ireland's Call, DOB, Adetroy, Wendigo7, Hawk97
New York Jets- rugbot 2.0, Downtigers

North

Baltimore Ravens - Diego, rustycruiser Demilich
Cincinnati Bengals - Speed Racer
Cleveland Browns - Bownes, Craftie
Pittsburgh Plums - binge90, The Busker, 8-20-2-18

South

Houston Texans - Turbogoat
Indianapolis Colts - Blackrock Bullet, L. Ron Hubbard
Jacksonville Jaguars - Prolate Spheroid Exile, Steveus55
Tennessee Titans

West

Denver Broncos - Flyin Ryan, DiscoHips D'Arcy
Kansas City Chiefs - Cookie Monster
Oakland Raiders - Demilich, Marshall Banana
San Diego Chargers

National Football Conference (NFC)

East

Jerry's Cowboys - Mr White, PFM, vh5150
New York Giants - Warriors, AND-y
Philadelphia Eagles - Neighorn, Smee, _fb_
Washington Redskins - tcc_dc

North

Chicago Bears - Crawford, TheBouncer, LandOTurk
Detroit Lions
Green Bay Packers
Minnesota Vikings

South

Atlanta Falcons - Zakar
Carolina Panthers
New Orleans Saints - croyals
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - jj's last brain cell

West

Arizona Cardinals
St. Louis Rams - village,fonzeee
San Francisco 49ers - WelshmanBKK, Snooze, Minnosu
Seattle Seahawks Karl Hungus

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Original OP:

Seeing as the 2013 thread is now buried, and the franchise tags have been assigned, I thought it was time to start a 2014 thread for Free Agency and the draft.

Let's start with the team everyone wants to see do well - Oakland. Reggie better already have deals sewn up for Jared Veldheer and Lamarr Houston, as he decided not to franchise tag either of them. With $65 million cap space to play with and a complete overhaul required, letting either of them go would be moronic. Particularly as they are pretty much the exact calibre of player he should be looking to pick up in free agency in the first place.

Sounds like Jared Allen is going to be out the door at the Vikings and Devin Hester gone from the Bears. I know Allen was at KC, but it's still hard to picture him as anything other than a Viking these days.

Dumbledore · Post by **Dumbledore** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:57 am

I am so f**king keen for an entire season of these

Seahawks have ditched Red Bryant and Sidney Rice so far, given themselves a bit of breathing room. Hopefully with the salary cap bump there's enough space to re-sign Bennett and start locking down Thomas and Sherman.

hedogbrother · Post by **hedogbrother** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:17 am

Can't wait! Or am I confusing the leagues again?

Spoiler: show

DOB · Post by **DOB** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:25 pm

There's talk on the news in the Bay Area that Harbaugh and Kaepernick both want to be the based paid in their job in the league. Harbaugh was on the other day completely denying it and saying it's not about the money, but Kaep does appear to want more money than Tom Brady for winning less Superbowls than Tom Brady.

If I was a 9er right now, and especially a player like Kaepernick who's central to the team, I'd be focusing on "what do we do to make that next step." So hopefully this is all just agents blowing smoke, because this really is an exciting SF team and I want to see them do well this year and not just implode.

TheBouncer · Post by **TheBouncer** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:55 pm

D all the way this off-season for Chicago. Could be the end of an era with Peppers, Tillman and Hester bidding farewell.

Should still be the NFC's best offence in 2014. And that makes me happy.

Snooze · Post by **Snooze** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:12 pm

DOB wrote:There's talk on the news in the Bay Area that Harbaugh and Kaepernick both want to be the based paid in their job in the league. Harbaugh was on the other day completely denying it and saying it's not about the money, but Kaep does appear to want more money than Tom Brady for winning less Superbowls than Tom Brady.

If I was a 9er right now, and especially a player like Kaepernick who's central to the team, I'd be focusing on "what do we do to make that next step." So hopefully this is all just agents blowing smoke, because this really is an exciting SF team and I want to see them do well this year and not just implode.

I'll have a word with CK& for you DOB, then make sure Harb stays in line. All will be OK.

Actually, I also heard about a bit of dissention in the ranks - players tired of Harb's antics. Most likely all made up media shit, but you know what they say about smoke and fire.

Hope not - for my sake.

Marshall Banana · Post by **Marshall Banana** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:25 pm

The Oakland Raiders, still the dumbest team in sports!

fudge. Me.

Veldheer and Houston are gone, and Reggie signs Saffold for more money than Veldheer.

Run DMC back for another 4 games at 4 million, and Jennings is gone.

Steve Corkran@CorkOnTheNFL Retweeted by Frank Schwab
To recap: Raiders lost best RB, yet signed RB that averaged 3.3 yards past two seasons; lost left OT, signed guy went from LT to RT to G.

Ireland's Call · Post by **Ireland's Call** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:30 pm

Snooze wrote:
DOB wrote:There's talk on the news in the Bay Area that Harbaugh and Kaepernick both want to be the based paid in their job in the league. Harbaugh was on the other day completely denying it and saying it's not about the money, but Kaep does appear to want more money than Tom Brady for winning less Superbowls than Tom Brady.

If I was a 9er right now, and especially a player like Kaepernick who's central to the team, I'd be focusing on "what do we do to make that next step." So hopefully this is all just agents blowing smoke, because this really is an exciting SF team and I want to see them do well this year and not just implode.
I'll have a word with CK& for you DOB, then make sure Harb stays in line. All will be OK.

Actually, I also heard about a bit of dissention in the ranks - players tired of Harb's antics. Most likely all made up media shit, but you know what they say about smoke and fire.

Hope not - for my sake.

Good business signing Boldin again. He rubbished the rumours of the players getting cheesed off with Harbaugh. I would say Harbaugh can indeed be a tad eccentric, he seems to be a borderline loon at times. But he's a damn good coach....New stadium as well next season of course.

Ware gone from the Cowboys, he's past his prime now. Holmes and Cromartie gone from the Jets....

Edelman will test the market which I'm not keen on, I want him to stay in NE. I hope we can keep Talib as well.

Revis rumours are aplenty....Bucs may offload him.

Marshall Banana · Post by **Marshall Banana** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:36 pm

Free Agency Tracker: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutd ... 45309.html

Latest: FS Mike Mitchell has reached a deal with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Good signing for Pitt.

WelshmanBKK · Post by **WelshmanBKK** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:47 pm

49ers have picked up Blaine Gabbert for a 6th round pick.

Donte Whitner signs a 4 year deal with Cleveland.

Hawk97 · Post by **Hawk97** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:48 pm

DOB wrote:There's talk on the news in the Bay Area that Harbaugh and Kaepernick both want to be the based paid in their job in the league. Harbaugh was on the other day completely denying it and saying it's not about the money, but Kaep does appear to want more money than Tom Brady for winning less Superbowls than Tom Brady.

If I was a 9er right now, and especially a player like Kaepernick who's central to the team, I'd be focusing on "what do we do to make that next step." So hopefully this is all just agents blowing smoke, because this really is an exciting SF team and I want to see them do well this year and not just implode.

Kaep is the weakness in that team, they are stacked throughout. They need a decent pocket QB.

Demilich · Post by **Demilich** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:15 am

Marshall Banana wrote:The Oakland Raiders, still the dumbest team in sports!

fudge. Me.

Veldheer and Houston are gone, and Reggie signs Saffold for more money than Veldheer.

Run DMC back for another 4 games at 4 million, and Jennings is gone.

Steve Corkran@CorkOnTheNFL Retweeted by Frank Schwab
To recap: Raiders lost best RB, yet signed RB that averaged 3.3 yards past two seasons; lost left OT, signed guy went from LT to RT to G.

$60 million under the cap and they look like they'll actually manage to make the team worse. That is a serious talent in itself. Bring back Al!

WelshmanBKK · Post by **WelshmanBKK** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:52 am

Significant moves....

TJ Ward signs for the broncos and Rashad Jennings in New York hopefully (his words) signing off the Giants.

Wolfe Tone · Post by **Wolfe Tone** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:57 am

Tell me about this Johnny Manziel character. Will he get drafted, and if so by whom?

WelshmanBKK · Post by **WelshmanBKK** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:57 am

I agree that Kaepernick is not quite as good as he likes to think he is and the $18m he is asking for is just too high.

They hark on about his playoff record because he has more road wins than Montana and Young combined but there us a reason, those guys got it done in the regular season and didn't need to go on the road in the playoffs.

He has more Super Bowl loses in his 2 years as starter that Montana and Young combined. He is not a great pocket passer, throws an awesome ball on the move but until he gets he feet set and stops staring down his receivers he'll be second rate. Still like him, hope we keep him, but the price has to be right.

WelshmanBKK · Post by **WelshmanBKK** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:01 am

Manziel will get drafted, but he will be a bust, gone from the league in 4 years in my opinion.

Talented yes, but you watch his college film, without Evans and against NFL pass coverage he will throw a lot on interceptions. Too small and a suspect character also counts against.

Whoever drafts will set their franchise back 4 years in my opinion.

Should be drafted in the 4th - 6th at best.

DOB · Post by **DOB** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:03 am

Rashad Mendenhall retires at 26, announcing via HuffPo blog post.

Dumbledore · Post by **Dumbledore** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:46 am

Bennett re-signed for a steal. 4 years, $28 million.

The Panthers are in serious trouble with their secondary now. The Saints and the Falcons are big passing teams, if the Bucs can pick up someone across from Jackson they could cause some havoc too. And speaking of the Bucs, they've picked up Verner so surely Revis will go. Byrd to the Saints is a great get for them.

Demilich · Post by **Demilich** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:05 am

San Francisco trade draft picks for Blaine Gabbert and Johnathan Martin... and it's still a better opening day of free agency than the Raiders.

Demilich · Post by **Demilich** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:08 am

Talib gone to the Broncos.

Marshall Banana · Post by **Marshall Banana** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:57 am

Saffold failed his medical at the Raiders.

Yet the Rams signed him up quick smart for 5 years...

What a mess.

Meanwhile, Ware is now a Donkey, and Revis is a Patsie.

Dumbledore · Post by **Dumbledore** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:21 am

Great get for the Pats.

Broncos are just throwing everything they've got at the next year or so.

Decker to the Jets, $36 million over five years.

Demilich · Post by **Demilich** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:16 am

Marshall Banana wrote:Saffold failed his medical at the Raiders.

Yet the Rams signed him up quick smart for 5 years...

What a mess.

Meanwhile, Ware is now a Donkey, and Revis is a Patsie.

Something had to eventually go the Raiders way and they lucked out of a massive "overs" contract on the physical.

Can't see them picking up any bargains in free agency though, when everyone knows they're willing to over pay.

I see the Broncos offered Jared Allen the same deal they offered Ware, and that he wanted to take it, but they put it on hold when Ware became available. Ouch. That'd be one hell of a chip on his shoulder if he went somewhere like... the Pats.

Newsome · Post by **Newsome** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:59 am

I really don't understand one thing about the draft. How do they choose what type of player will be first pick that year, is it random, based on overall stats, or is there an order to it?

Demilich · Post by **Demilich** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:21 am

Newsome wrote:I really don't understand one thing about the draft. How do they choose what type of player will be first pick that year, is it random, based on overall stats, or is there an order to it?

They don't. The team that finishes dead motherless last chooses which ever player from the draft they want (the players in the draft are the ones leaving the college game and declaring for the NFL). The team that finished second to last chooses from what is left. And so on.

So the team with the first over all pick takes what ever player they think they need.

Good example is the Texans picking first over all this year. They have a need for a Quarter-back, which is often taken first over all in the draft. There is a good chance they won't take a quarter-back however, as they may feel that the quarter-backs available don't fit their need or that another player would help them more. They may feel they are actually better to take Jadaveon Clowney (a defensive player) who many consider to be the most "sure-thing" to succeed from this draft class, or even Sammy Watkins who is a particularly good wide-receiver prospect.

Newsome · Post by **Newsome** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:26 am

Demilich wrote:
Newsome wrote:I really don't understand one thing about the draft. How do they choose what type of player will be first pick that year, is it random, based on overall stats, or is there an order to it?
They don't. The team that finishes dead motherless last chooses which ever player from the draft they want (the players in the draft are the ones leaving the college game and declaring for the NFL). The team that finished second to last chooses from what is left. And so on.

So the team with the first over all pick takes what ever player they think they need.

Good example is the Texans picking first over all this year. They have a need for a Quarter-back, which is often taken first over all in the draft. There is a good chance they won't take a quarter-back however, as they may feel that the quarter-backs available don't fit their need or that another player would help them more. They may feel they are actually better to take Jadaveon Clowney (a defensive player) who many consider to be the most "sure-thing" to succeed from this draft class, or even Sammy Watkins who is a particularly good wide-receiver prospect.

Oh. I thought it was whoever has first pick, chooses the first ranked player and so on.

Demilich · Post by **Demilich** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:31 am

Newsome wrote:
Demilich wrote:
Newsome wrote:I really don't understand one thing about the draft. How do they choose what type of player will be first pick that year, is it random, based on overall stats, or is there an order to it?
They don't. The team that finishes dead motherless last chooses which ever player from the draft they want (the players in the draft are the ones leaving the college game and declaring for the NFL). The team that finished second to last chooses from what is left. And so on.

So the team with the first over all pick takes what ever player they think they need.

Good example is the Texans picking first over all this year. They have a need for a Quarter-back, which is often taken first over all in the draft. There is a good chance they won't take a quarter-back however, as they may feel that the quarter-backs available don't fit their need or that another player would help them more. They may feel they are actually better to take Jadaveon Clowney (a defensive player) who many consider to be the most "sure-thing" to succeed from this draft class, or even Sammy Watkins who is a particularly good wide-receiver prospect.
Oh. I thought it was whoever has first pick, chooses the first ranked player and so on.

Nah. The pre-draft rankings (mock drafts) you see are just various expert's guessing as to who is going to select whom. They are rarely correct, beyond a handful of selections.

Demilich · Post by **Demilich** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:19 am

Anyone else looking forward to seeing Sproles in Chip Kelly's offense?

Burke's Boot · Post by **Burke's Boot** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:35 am

Is that big Aussie unit playing this year? Would have to be the first Aussie since Colin Scott's to play other than the AFL kickers.

The Ginger Jedi · Post by **The Ginger Jedi** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:00 am

Demilich wrote:
Marshall Banana wrote:The Oakland Raiders, still the dumbest team in sports!

fudge. Me.

Veldheer and Houston are gone, and Reggie signs Saffold for more money than Veldheer.

Run DMC back for another 4 games at 4 million, and Jennings is gone.

Steve Corkran@CorkOnTheNFL Retweeted by Frank Schwab
To recap: Raiders lost best RB, yet signed RB that averaged 3.3 yards past two seasons; lost left OT, signed guy went from LT to RT to G.
$60 million under the cap and they look like they'll actually manage to make the team worse. That is a serious talent in itself. Bring back Al!

It's depressing, they've become a joke franchise which is a stark contrast to what they were like back in the early 80's when I started supporting them.

That said I'm incredibly excited to get the opportunity to fulfil a 25 year ambition to watch them play and I don't have to travel 9000 miles to do it. Hopefully they'll bring a few of my boyhood favourites - Marcus Allen, Matt Millen, Howie Long, Todd Christensen etc. They could give them a game.

Demilich · Post by **Demilich** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:04 am

Raiders signed James Jones. Which is a good signing. But is more note-worthy in the fact that the Panthers didn't sign him. And haven't signed any wide receivers after letting theirs walk. Their current roster of WRs have a combined 2 NFL catches.

Cam ain't going to be happy.

And Rex Ryan is apparently far from happy that he didn't get Revis or DRC.

Turbogoat · Post by **Turbogoat** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:38 am

I'd like to see an improved performance from the Texans, which considering they finished last in 2013 isn't asking too much.

Even as an Aggie, I'm hoping they don't waste the number 1 draft pick on pick Manziel, Bridgewater is a better choice at QB, but DE Clowney is most likely, given how utter shit the defence was last year.

Dumbledore · Post by **Dumbledore** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:24 am

Burke's Boot wrote:Is that big Aussie unit playing this year? Would have to be the first Aussie since Colin Scott's to play other than the AFL kickers.

Jesse Williams? If he's over his knee issues he'll definitely get some game time.

jrp · Post by **jrp** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:16 am

Dumbledore wrote:I am so f**king keen for an entire season of these

Imagine how different the sport would be if they were taught how to tackle.

Dumbledore · Post by **Dumbledore** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:28 am

jrp wrote:
Dumbledore wrote:I am so f**king keen for an entire season of these

Imagine how different the sport would be if they were taught how to tackle.

Yeah seriously. I've got no idea why they're all so bad. Would be such an easy fix and would make a huge amount of difference. I wonder if it's the obsession with putting in the huge hit that stops them putting in a fairly conventional rugby style tackle?

rugbot 2.0 · Post by **rugbot 2.0** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:12 am

Jets sign Vick. Glad I don't have to pretend I give a shit about this team anymore.

Blackrock Bullet · Post by **Blackrock Bullet** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:25 am

This is a shit thread, put some effort in the OP ffs

Stevus55 · Post by **Stevus55** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:30 am

Dumbledore wrote: Seahawks have ditched Red Bryant and Sidney Rice so far, given themselves a bit of breathing room. Hopefully with the salary cap bump there's enough space to re-sign Bennett and start locking down Thomas and Sherman.

The Jags have signed him. Saw him recently with Gus Bradley, he's a very large gentleman.

Turbogoat · Post by **Turbogoat** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:36 am

Marshall Banana wrote:The Oakland Raiders, still the dumbest team in sports!

fudge. Me.

Veldheer and Houston are gone, and Reggie signs Saffold for more money than Veldheer.

Run DMC back for another 4 games at 4 million, and Jennings is gone.

Steve Corkran@CorkOnTheNFL Retweeted by Frank Schwab
To recap: Raiders lost best RB, yet signed RB that averaged 3.3 yards past two seasons; lost left OT, signed guy went from LT to RT to G.

Raiders have now signed Matt Schaub from the Texans... still the dumbest team in sports? Yeah that'll be right.

Dumbledore · Post by **Dumbledore** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:04 am

Turbogoat wrote:
Marshall Banana wrote:The Oakland Raiders, still the dumbest team in sports!

fudge. Me.

Veldheer and Houston are gone, and Reggie signs Saffold for more money than Veldheer.

Run DMC back for another 4 games at 4 million, and Jennings is gone.

Steve Corkran@CorkOnTheNFL Retweeted by Frank Schwab
To recap: Raiders lost best RB, yet signed RB that averaged 3.3 yards past two seasons; lost left OT, signed guy went from LT to RT to G.
Raiders have now signed Matt Schaub from the Texans... still the dumbest team in sports? Yeah that'll be right.

The thing is though, if Schaub re-discovers his form it's a great move. Lets the Raiders pick up someone like Robinson, Mack, Watkins etc. who can make a difference straight away.