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Wish the Raiders v Packers game was a bit lower scoring

That first Cowboys TD was vintage Tavon Austin. Literally ran a circle around an NFL defensive back.

Lamar Jackson is developing very nicely in Baltimore. Glad agent Peters was able to help with a pick 6 on Wilson. Rams now only a missed field goal from being ahead of the Seahawks in the West.

9-0 final score in San Francisco.

Am I cynical to think Disney saved their exclusive Star Wars premiere for what would be by far the least competitive football game ESPN would have on Monday night?

Pats 24-0 at half. Darnold just threw his 3rd pick early in the 3rd. He also has a lost fumble and was 6/13 for 34 yards at the half.

Flyin Ryan wrote:Am I cynical to think Disney saved their exclusive Star Wars premiere for what would be by far the least competitive football game ESPN would have on Monday night?

Pats 24-0 at half. Darnold just threw his 3rd pick early in the 3rd. He also has a lost fumble and was 6/13 for 34 yards at the half.

What's this?

Excuse me, exclusive premiere of the "final trailer" for the Star Wars movie. It played a minute or two after halftime started and they advertised it would play then.

There's a big lightsaber fight scene in the middle of a raging ocean.

Flyin Ryan wrote:Excuse me, exclusive premiere of the "final trailer" for the Star Wars movie. It played a minute or two after halftime started and they advertised it would play then.

There's a big lightsaber fight scene in the middle of a raging ocean.

Oh.

I can't wait.


Last I heard they were going back to do more re-shoots.
This is after the previous set of re-shoots.



edit: found the trailer. Sort of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB1OnSDT3Bo

Pats signed Sanu from the Falcons. Traded for 2nd round pick.
Maybe Gordon's injury is worse than they thought?

Sydvicious wrote:Pats signed Sanu from the Falcons. Traded for 2nd round pick.
Maybe Gordon's injury is worse than they thought?

Jaysus - only a 2nd round pick?

That's likely to be somewhere between #35 and #40

Yer Man wrote:

Sydvicious wrote:Pats signed Sanu from the Falcons. Traded for 2nd round pick.
Maybe Gordon's injury is worse than they thought?

Jaysus - only a 2nd round pick?

That's likely to be somewhere between #35 and #40

When I heard 2nd round pick, I was waiting for the "and", but nothing... Only a second round pick.

As someone who has Sanu on his Fantasy Football team his performance this year has been pretty underwhelming in terms of numbers. Jones and Hooper are the two gold plated targets and I suppose they decided they could get similar figures from a draft pick or a reasonable free agent?

Will be interesting to see if BB can re-energise Sanu, BB has worked wonders in the past for a lot of other "older" skill players who had hit a plateau.

Flyin Ryan wrote:Darnold just threw his 3rd pick early in the 3rd. He also has a lost fumble and was 6/13 for 34 yards at the half.

Finished with 4 INT, 1 lost fumble, 1.9 QBR.

Seemingly Atlanta still paying some of Sanu's wages as Patriots don't have the cap space and hence why it is a 2 and not a lower round.

Bowens wrote:

Flyin Ryan wrote:Darnold just threw his 3rd pick early in the 3rd. He also has a lost fumble and was 6/13 for 34 yards at the half.

Finished with 4 INT, 1 lost fumble, 3.6 QBR.

Football Outsiders:

(DYAR = Defense-adjusted Yards Above Replacement)

11/32 passing, 86 yards, 0 TD, 4 INT, 1 Sack, -200 passing DYAR

Darnold gained 83 DYAR due to opponent adjustments, more than double any other quarterback this week. Without them, this would have threatened the all-time record for worst single-game passing DYAR.

If you're wondering, going back to 1989, it's David Klingler in 1994 playing for the Bengals vs. the Houston Oilers.

Yer Man wrote:

Sydvicious wrote:Pats signed Sanu from the Falcons. Traded for 2nd round pick.
Maybe Gordon's injury is worse than they thought?

Jaysus - only a 2nd round pick?

That's likely to be somewhere between #35 and #40

The Pats pick will be #63 or #64. You've got it the wrong way round. And that is plenty for a guy like him considering AB went for a 3rd and 5th. Good player and he'll probably win a SB but the season is gone for Atlanta and time now to tank for the draft.

Another Rutgers guy for NE.

Flyin Ryan wrote:Well he didn't draft Flacco. He did the same thing with him he did Manning, large free agency signing. I was not feeling warm and fuzzy inside the day it was announced.

As far as "can't draft a QB to save his life", there's so much damn luck involved in all this. I question how much QB analysis is blind luck versus real skill. O-line however, no question, that was horrific last night.

Siemian was much more the game manager type.

Will say I thought going for 2 after the game opening TD and Chiefs penalty was the right call. Just didn't work. Defense all things considered played well first half, 7 of those points against was on the offense. It's just we somehow turned a halftime deficit that should've been 13-10 into 20-6.

Argree wrt QB analysis. Intangibles far more important than measurables. I would’ve thought interview, work ethic, leadership most important with things like demonstrating an ability to check down through receiving options. Having a cannon for an arm is irrelevant.

How many great qbs were first round picks? Elway, Manning P, Marino. But a lot of the greats aren’t, Marino R3, Brady R6, Favre R2, Staubach R10, Unitas R9, etc.

ruckinhell wrote:As someone who has Sanu on his Fantasy Football team his performance this year has been pretty underwhelming in terms of numbers. Jones and Hooper are the two gold plated targets and I suppose they decided they could get similar figures from a draft pick or a reasonable free agent?

Will be interesting to see if BB can re-energise Sanu, BB has worked wonders in the past for a lot of other "older" skill players who had hit a plateau.

Last 4 seasons, his grade on PFF:

2016 80.0 (Superbowl season)
2017 77.2
2018 71.6
2019 60.2

Has been in decline, but so have the Falcons

Biffer29 wrote:

Flyin Ryan wrote:Well he didn't draft Flacco. He did the same thing with him he did Manning, large free agency signing. I was not feeling warm and fuzzy inside the day it was announced.

As far as "can't draft a QB to save his life", there's so much damn luck involved in all this. I question how much QB analysis is blind luck versus real skill. O-line however, no question, that was horrific last night.

Siemian was much more the game manager type.

Will say I thought going for 2 after the game opening TD and Chiefs penalty was the right call. Just didn't work. Defense all things considered played well first half, 7 of those points against was on the offense. It's just we somehow turned a halftime deficit that should've been 13-10 into 20-6.

Argree wrt QB analysis. Intangibles far more important than measurables. I would’ve thought interview, work ethic, leadership most important with things like demonstrating an ability to check down through receiving options. Having a cannon for an arm is irrelevant.

How many great qbs were first round picks? Elway, Manning P, Marino. But a lot of the greats aren’t, Marino R3, Brady R6, Favre R2, Staubach R10, Unitas R9, etc.

Recent first round picks are looking quite promising:

2019: K Murray, D Jones & er, D Haskins (plus G Minshew in the 6th)
2018: B Mayfield, S Darnold, J Allen, J Rosen, L Jackson (plus M Rudolph in the 3rd & K Allen (undrafted)
2017: M Trubisky, P Mahomes, D Watson
2016: J Goff, C Wentz (plus J Brisset in the 3rd & D Prescott in the 4th)
2015: J Winston, M Mariota - both look to have crashed & burned with neither player contracted beyond this season

2015 now looks like a bust on the QB front, however the four subsequent years have produced maybe 11 starting QBs from the first round plus a handful in later rounds.


The criticism on John Elway's drafting record is the impression that he considers physical size (esp height) to be more important than other qualities - like talent.

God NFL RedZone is the best thing ever invented.

My friend says there's a cracking game on reddit between the Eagles and the Bills.
Not sure I believe him, may need to check.

Yer Man wrote:

Biffer29 wrote:

Flyin Ryan wrote:Well he didn't draft Flacco. He did the same thing with him he did Manning, large free agency signing. I was not feeling warm and fuzzy inside the day it was announced.

As far as "can't draft a QB to save his life", there's so much damn luck involved in all this. I question how much QB analysis is blind luck versus real skill. O-line however, no question, that was horrific last night.

Siemian was much more the game manager type.

Will say I thought going for 2 after the game opening TD and Chiefs penalty was the right call. Just didn't work. Defense all things considered played well first half, 7 of those points against was on the offense. It's just we somehow turned a halftime deficit that should've been 13-10 into 20-6.

Argree wrt QB analysis. Intangibles far more important than measurables. I would’ve thought interview, work ethic, leadership most important with things like demonstrating an ability to check down through receiving options. Having a cannon for an arm is irrelevant.

How many great qbs were first round picks? Elway, Manning P, Marino. But a lot of the greats aren’t, Marino R3, Brady R6, Favre R2, Staubach R10, Unitas R9, etc.

Recent first round picks are looking quite promising:

2019: K Murray, D Jones & er, D Haskins (plus G Minshew in the 6th)
2018: B Mayfield, S Darnold, J Allen, J Rosen, L Jackson (plus M Rudolph in the 3rd & K Allen (undrafted)
2017: M Trubisky, P Mahomes, D Watson
2016: J Goff, C Wentz (plus J Brisset in the 3rd & D Prescott in the 4th)
2015: J Winston, M Mariota - both look to have crashed & burned with neither player contracted beyond this season

2015 now looks like a bust on the QB front, however the four subsequent years have produced maybe 11 starting QBs from the first round plus a handful in later rounds.


The criticism on John Elway's drafting record is the impression that he considers physical size (esp height) to be more important than other qualities - like talent.

Yeah, but you can’t consider any of them in the Favre/Montana/Staubach/Brady category, that’s where I was going - the greats, not the decent.

The Pats defence is just ridiculous

The Raiders defence is fùcking painfully bad.

Yes. Yes, they are.

When you hear the words, "Raiders need a stop", it's time to bet the farm on the opposition.

So frustrating.

At least the Bears continue to suck - so that pick's looking better by the week...

Marshall Banana wrote:Yes. Yes, they are.

When you hear the words, "Raiders need a stop", it's time to bet the farm on the opposition.

So frustrating.

At least the Bears continue to suck - so that pick's looking better by the week...

I feel bad for Pineiro missing the kick.
But only because of the kicker - certainly not the Bears.

He won the kicking job in Oakland last season, then got injured just before game 1 and went on IR.
We tried another gut before winding up with Carlson, who has been brilliant.
Smart trade to get something for Pineiro rather than just release him.

Given the record for the season so far, as a Vike fan, the losses to the Bears and Packers are pretty annoying. Two losses to teams in the NFC North could be very damaging.

JJ Watt out for the year.

Bowens wrote:JJ Watt out for the year.

How is his backup?

Bowens wrote:God NFL RedZone is the best thing ever invented.

You can't imagine how annoying the spanish narrators (dubbing over the original vice that can be overheard in the back) are. Last year my cable operator had the original audio on SAP, but this year they seem to have removed it, and it bugs the hell out of me...

Leinsterman wrote:Given the record for the season so far, as a Vike fan, the losses to the Bears and Packers are pretty annoying. Two losses to teams in the NFC North could be very damaging.

Vikings are three games clear of the Lions & Bears.
And two games ahead of wild card candidates in the East and South.
And the West will eventually eat itself as the 49ers, Hawks and Rams play each other.

They're in great shape for the playoffs - unfortunately to Kirk Cousins, those games are usually shown on prime time TV

Marshall Banana wrote:Yes. Yes, they are.

When you hear the words, "Raiders need a stop", it's time to bet the farm on the opposition.

So frustrating.

So many of our wins in 2016 game from a defensive stop to seal the deal AFTER Carr had made his customary 4th quarter game winning drive.
There's no real playmaker on that defence.


But I'm mostly dissapointed that an offence that had started to shred the weakened secondary, to lead 21-13, could only manage another 3 points.
We knew we needed to keep two scores in front. How many drops from Tyrell Williams?

The mighty AFC South is the only division with no teams with a losing record so far

Sydvicious wrote:

Bowens wrote:JJ Watt out for the year.

How is his backup?

Not sure but there will be a lot of Texans fans bringing up the Clowney trade now.

Haha, that's as convenient a trade for Leonard Williams as he's likely ever going to get. Doesn't even need to move house.

Can't believe that nobody has mentioned Baker Mayfield setting new standards for mind-boggling interceptions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQSOE-Sf8jY


Seriously!

Yer Man wrote:Can't believe that nobody has mentioned Baker Mayfield setting new standards for mind-boggling interceptions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQSOE-Sf8jY


Seriously!

But they all said he was going to turn the franchise around. I just assumed they were right.

Seriously though, who watches the Browns.

I have a friend who was so excited about the Browns being better than the Jags this year

Stevus55 wrote:I have a friend who was so excited about the Browns being better than the Jags this year

My mate (Browns fan) thought this was his year too. As a Niners fan, we have a bet each year for pints at the Superbowl - a pint per extra win a team gets. I haven't paid for pints for a few years now. And I'm gonna be well pissed by kick-off this year if I have to get through 10+ pints.

The Raiders defence makes a stand and it's a win!

Carr looking better than ever. Jacobs continues to feast.

Great watch.

Marshall Banana wrote:The Raiders defence makes a stand and it's a win!

Carr looking better than ever. Jacobs continues to feast.

Great watch.

Raider games are "must watch".

We have an offence that can keep us in just about any game.
Trouble is we have a defence that can keep the opposition in any game as well