Official NFL 2020

Flyin Ryan · Post by **Flyin Ryan** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:23 pm

The Jets closed as 17-point underdogs. That means they are tied for the fourth-biggest upset in Stathead's database. Last year's Dolphins-over-Patriots game was at 17.5, as was a 1978 Baltimore Colts-over-Patriots upset. The all-time leader remains the Jets winning as 18-point underdogs in Super Bowl III.

Also due to you rarely get lines over 14 points.

Go to @nyjets and look at Jets fans' reaction to their one-letter Tweet "W."

If we're not going to land the best quarterback of a generation in the draft, at least it was because of our future RB star Frank Gore
Easily another 5 years left in him, depending on how motivated he stays when/if his son enters the league

Barring a miracle Jags win I'll be looking for a new team if the Jets are bad again next year. I can deal with the Knicks and Mets. I'm loyal to losing teams. But I can't deal with a team that knowingly blows a GUARANTEED acquisition of a generational QB.

This is the single lowest moment as a @nyjets fan. There was hope for the future. We are handed a franchise QB and we win a meaningless game. This is going to set the franchise back years. Lawrence was going to be our answer. Words can't describe this pain.

BokJock · Post by **BokJock** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:34 am

Alvin Kamara breaking my heart in my fantasy league final

Bwen · Post by **Bwen** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:38 am

Interesting few games last two days. My take aways.

Brees looks dodgy despite an offence scoring 50+. He will cost Saints in play offs. Not sure if there's many defences in NFC that can take advantage though.

Tom looked his best against a dogshit team. They are absolutely dominant when their Oline gets parity/on-top. Can Tompa Bay keep that form in the play offs? If so, they can go all the way.

Finally, Murray's a bit of a choker. When shit needs to be won, he absconds responsibility. Throws low percentage passes to end zone that won't tarnish him if they don't come off. He got a lot of praise for Hopkins hail Mary, but that was all Hopkins. Not sure he's a super bowl in him.

Rumham · Post by **Rumham** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:19 pm

fonzeee wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:07 am This Lawrence guy better be the next Johnny Unitas the way people are whining about this win.

God I hate this tanking mentality.

Lawrence is pretty incredible tbf. The difference he made to Clemson against ND was massive and his back up was no slouch. The Jets will rue this immensely for the next decade.

Rumham · Post by **Rumham** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:20 pm

Also how did the Raiders lose that game? I took a long shot Miami bet in running and just switched it off. But my kids wanted to see the end as they liked the Dolphins logo then lo and behold they were somehow in Raiders territory with time to spare!!

Yer Man · Post by **Yer Man** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:07 pm

Browns struggling against the Jets!!!
3 - 13 down in the middle of the second half.

Maybe worth pointing out that their entire WR corps is on the Covid list - and it shows.
Mayfield has nobody to throw to.

Yer Man · Post by **Yer Man** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:08 pm

Flyin Ryan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:23 pm
This is the single lowest moment as a @nyjets fan. There was hope for the future. We are handed a franchise QB and we win a meaningless game. This is going to set the franchise back years. Lawrence was going to be our answer. Words can't describe this pain.

It was only a couple of weeks ago that the Jets finally trumped the "Butt Fumble" as the worst moment in franchise history with the Cover Zero Blitz.

And now they beat than by, er, winning a game

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:38 pm

Jags need to "carefully navigate" a tricky one with the Bears. Jags receivers are making a few to many plays

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:46 pm

Trubisky to the rescue. What a player

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:08 pm

The Jets are clearly far too good to be in the conversation for the no.1 pick anyway

iarmhiman · Post by **iarmhiman** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:48 pm

Some comeback from Steelers

Yer Man · Post by **Yer Man** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:54 pm

vintage_cox wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:08 pm The Jets are clearly far too good to be in the conversation for the no.1 pick anyway

Having already f*cked up the chance to pick Trevor Lawrence, could the Jets now find themselves keeping Adam Gase?
How much worse can this get?

Boxcar Ira · Post by **Boxcar Ira** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:53 am

BokJock wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:34 am Alvin Kamara breaking my heart in my fantasy league final

I'm on track to win my final by by about 40 points thanks to Alvin. I actually feel sorry for the other guy who had a monster week himself

johnstrac · Post by **johnstrac** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:15 pm

Yer Man wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:54 pm
vintage_cox wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:08 pm The Jets are clearly far too good to be in the conversation for the no.1 pick anyway
Having already f*cked up the chance to pick Trevor Lawrence, could the Jets now find themselves keeping Adam Gase?
How much worse can this get?

Gase can't survive surely ? One good season as an "O" co-ordinator when Manning was calling the shots anyway can't give you a career.

Yer Man · Post by **Yer Man** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:25 pm

johnstrac wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:15 pm
Yer Man wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:54 pm
vintage_cox wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:08 pm The Jets are clearly far too good to be in the conversation for the no.1 pick anyway
Having already f*cked up the chance to pick Trevor Lawrence, could the Jets now find themselves keeping Adam Gase?
How much worse can this get?
Gase can't survive surely ? One good season as an "O" co-ordinator when Manning was calling the shots anyway can't give you a career.

It did actually.

Peyton even called the Jets a couple of years ago to tell them how great Gase was and they should definitely hire him.

Given that Eli was still playing for the Giants, maybe the Jets should have smelled a rat

BokJock · Post by **BokJock** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:34 pm

Boxcar Ira wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:53 am
BokJock wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:34 am Alvin Kamara breaking my heart in my fantasy league final
I'm on track to win my final by by about 40 points thanks to Alvin. I actually feel sorry for the other guy who had a monster week himself

I got absolutely demolished, still have Beasley and the Bill's defence to play but somehow don't think I can make up the 130pt difference

Other guy has Devante Adam's, Kelce and David Johnson. And the jammy bastard picked up Jeff Wilson Jr on the waiver wire.

Boxcar Ira · Post by **Boxcar Ira** » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:51 am

BokJock wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:34 pm
Boxcar Ira wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:53 am
BokJock wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:34 am Alvin Kamara breaking my heart in my fantasy league final
I'm on track to win my final by by about 40 points thanks to Alvin. I actually feel sorry for the other guy who had a monster week himself
I got absolutely demolished, still have Beasley and the Bill's defence to play but somehow don't think I can make up the 130pt difference

Other guy has Devante Adam's, Kelce and David Johnson. And the jammy bastard picked up Jeff Wilson Jr on the waiver wire.

I had Allen and Diggs last night so had a nice 80 point cushion in the end!

I have only gotten back in to the NFL in the last 2 years but was a big fan in the 90's at the time of the Bills infamous 4 in a row. I'd love to see them go all the way

Yer Man · Post by **Yer Man** » Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:10 pm

Boxcar Ira wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:51 am I had Allen and Diggs last night so had a nice 80 point cushion in the end!

I have only gotten back in to the NFL in the last 2 years but was a big fan in the 90's at the time of the Bills infamous 4 in a row. I'd love to see them go all the way

You'd better hope the Cigarette Smoking Man has died...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyhAJEPEHk4

BokJock · Post by **BokJock** » Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:47 pm

Yer Man wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:54 pm
vintage_cox wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:08 pm The Jets are clearly far too good to be in the conversation for the no.1 pick anyway
Having already f*cked up the chance to pick Trevor Lawrence, could the Jets now find themselves keeping Adam Gase?
How much worse can this get?

Darnold has shown signs that he could be good though, maybe QB isn't their biggest concern? I would say Gase is...

Flyin Ryan · Post by **Flyin Ryan** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:04 am

Is this the year bowl games became officially meaningless? A 3-7 Mississippi State team was in a bowl game today.

vintage_cox · Post by **vintage_cox** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:18 pm

AK has covid. All the Saints RBs are out this weekend

He won't be available for a Saturday playoff game next week...but Sunday he'd be allowed back (but no practice or contact with the team all week)

johnstrac · Post by **johnstrac** » Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:30 pm

vintage_cox wrote: ↑Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:18 pm AK has covid. All the Saints RBs are out this weekend

He won't be available for a Saturday playoff game next week...but Sunday he'd be allowed back (but no practice or contact with the team all week)

I think Kamara's familiar with the playbook by now but that's a hell of a loss.

puku · Post by **puku** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:42 pm

Bit of a dud of the year for the Vikes.

However, one shining light (actually there a several) is Justin Jefferson who today broke the all-time receiving yards for a rookie wide receiver. Not a bad draft pick to replace Steffon Diggs.

Yer Man · Post by **Yer Man** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:45 pm

puku wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:42 pm Bit of a dud of the year for the Vikes.

However, one shining light (actually there a several) is Justin Jefferson who today broke the all-time receiving yards for a rookie wide receiver. Not a bad draft pick to replace Steffon Diggs.

Flyin Ryan · Post by **Flyin Ryan** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:47 pm

Playoff updates after the early games:

AFC

1. Kansas City 14-1 - playing L.A. Chargers
2. Buffalo 13-3 - defeated Miami 56-26
3. Pittsburgh 12-4 - lost to Cleveland 24-22
4. Tennessee 10-5 - clinch AFC South with win over Houston or Indianapolis loss to Jacksonville
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5. Baltimore 11-5 - defeated Cincinnati 38-3
6. Cleveland 11-5 - defeated Pittsburgh 24-22
7. Indianapolis 10-5 - playing Jacksonville, clinch playoff birth with win or tie after Miami's loss
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8. Miami 10-6 - lost to Buffalo 56-26, need an Indianapolis loss to make the playoffs

NFC

1. Green Bay 12-3 - playing Chicago
2. New Orleans 11-4 - playing Carolina
3. Seattle 11-4 - playing San Francisco
4. Washington 6-9 - playing Philadelphia tonight, with the Giants win over Dallas earlier today, either Washington wins the division with a win or tie, or the Giants will make the playoffs at 6-10
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5. Tampa Bay 11-5 - defeated Atlanta 44-27, being best wild card in the NFC Brady gets to face the worst division winner ever
6. L.A. Rams 9-6 - playing Arizona
7. Arizona 8-7 - playing L.A. Rams
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8. Chicago 8-7 - playing Green Bay

Winner of Rams/Arizona is in. Chicago has to win against Green Bay.

Yer Man · Post by **Yer Man** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:50 pm

Bit of a bummer for the Buccs if WR Mike Evans is badly hurt...

One play after he'd achieved 1,000 yards (yet again) and his knee goes pop.

Yer Man · Post by **Yer Man** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:52 pm

I'm glad Cleveland made it - would have been a bloody awful way to miss out when they lost their entire WR corps for the Jets game.
And I don't think they'd have beaten a Pittsburgh with Big Ben.

fonzeee · Post by **fonzeee** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:00 pm

Congrats Bones, wherever you are

sewa · Post by **sewa** » Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:03 pm

The 15/8 on Kansas to win the superbowl is very tempting.

Yer Man · Post by **Yer Man** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:12 am

Ravens thrash the Bengals - by running the ball over FOUR HUNDRED YARDS!!!

sewa · Post by **sewa** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:17 am

2/1 Kansas is free money (provided Mahomes is fit)

Flyin Ryan · Post by **Flyin Ryan** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:22 am

Wild Card Round schedule next weekend. This is the first year of an expanded 14-team playoff format, so only the top seed in each conference gets a bye, not 2 in each.

Saturday

7) Indianapolis @ 2) Buffalo, 1:05pm ET, CBS
6) L.A. Rams @ 3) Seattle, 4:40pm ET, Fox
5) Tampa Bay @ 4) Washington or N.Y. GIants, 8:15pm ET, NBC

Sunday

5) Baltimore @ 4) Tennessee, 1:05pm ET, ABC/ESPN
7) Chicago @ 2) New Orleans, 4:40pm ET, CBS
6) Cleveland @ 3) Pittsburgh, 8:15pm ET, NBC

They choose Washington and Philly for the regular season finale and then pick the hapless division winner for their Saturday night game. NBC can take their NFC East love and choke on it.

Flyin Ryan · Post by **Flyin Ryan** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:41 am

This season we almost have an NBA Western Conference vs. Eastern Conference-level lopsidedness comparing playoff teams. Miami are a better team than the NFC East division winner, the Bears, and the Rams. (They beat the Rams in a game this year, and won both their games against the Jets.)

Throw out the NFC East division because that's a disaster, but how did the Bears make the playoffs?

NFC East combined final record barring a tie in tonight's game: 23-40-1
Removing division games, so their combined final record against the other 28 teams in the league: 11-28-1

The Jets don't wait for Black Monday, firing their head coach Adam Gase tonight.

paddyor · Post by **paddyor** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:33 am

fonzeee wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:00 pm Congrats Bones, wherever you are

The Browns owe it all to him. HE was ditching them because they signed Mayfield instead of Barkley IIRC and so......

Whatever · Post by **Whatever** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:24 am

So the Redskins, err I mean, the Footballs are the last team through to the playoffs. The quarterback playing on one leg.

Don't expect they will go any further, as usual.

TheBouncer · Post by **TheBouncer** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:50 pm

Chicago should not be in the playoffs but 6 Wildcard games is pretty juicy. Miami with Tua have no business there either, they've been riding the turnover differential all year. Yesterday was a horror show.

Rodgers is on another planet. He just dismantled the bears ilb replacement for Roquan Smith the second he arrived. Beating Mahomes to MVP at 37 is really something.

Flyin Ryan · Post by **Flyin Ryan** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:43 pm

Jaguars and Chargers fire their head coaches. Bengals decide to keep theirs.

Yer Man · Post by **Yer Man** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:02 pm

Whatever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:24 am So the Redskins, err I mean, the Footballs are the last team through to the playoffs. The quarterback playing on one leg.

Don't expect they will go any further, as usual.

Doug Pederson being flat out accused of throwing the game.
Went for 4th and Goal from the 3 yard line (having gained 1 yard in three plays) instead of levelling the scores at 17-17. Then pulls Jalen Hurts from the game and gives the reins to a journeyman backup for the 4th quarter.

Having already left several notable starters out "injured"

Yer Man · Post by **Yer Man** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:04 pm

Flyin Ryan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:43 pm Jaguars and Chargers fire their head coaches. Bengals decide to keep theirs.

Fired so far:

In season:
Texans
Falcons
Lions

Post season:
Jets
Jaguars - allegedly lining up Urban Meyer
Chargers

Still on the hot seat:
Bears - but will probably survive by backing into the playoffs
Eagles - see allegations of throwing it

Whatever · Post by **Whatever** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:33 pm

Yer Man wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:02 pm
Whatever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:24 am So the Redskins, err I mean, the Footballs are the last team through to the playoffs. The quarterback playing on one leg.

Don't expect they will go any further, as usual.
Doug Pederson being flat out accused of throwing the game.
Went for 4th and Goal from the 3 yard line (having gained 1 yard in three plays) instead of levelling the scores at 17-17. Then pulls Jalen Hurts from the game and gives the reins to a journeyman backup for the 4th quarter.

Having already left several notable starters out "injured"

I posted mine as soon as the game finished, but I knew this was coming. Being a sore loser isn't confined to Trump. What motivation would he have for throwing the game, coaches live by their results, even when they're out of the playoffs.

Bottom-line, if you have to depend on another team to win and that team has no particular motivation of its own, then you're bound for disappointment.

Go the Washington Footballs!