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Pienaar eager to nail down contract extension with Ulster

Friday January 18 2013
Ruan Pienaar has given Ulster rugby fans a massive shot in the arm by revealing that he would like to sign a contract extension.

With Mark Anscombe's side flying out this morning to the south of France, where they must beat Castres Olympique tomorrow in the hope of securing a home quarter-final in the Heineken Cup, the mercurial half-back spoke of his love affair with Ulster.

"I have never looked back since coming here, though I'm not saying there aren't days when I do miss all the family back home and playing for the Sharks in Durban," said the Springboks star – a player much coveted by Ulster's rivals.

"But since coming here, I think I have grown as a player and as a person and, ultimately, that is what you want. I've really had a fantastic time so far. Obviously, before coming here, you don't know what to expect.

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"As a player, you just want to play well and make a difference to the team. Your hope is that when you leave, it will be with good memories.

"The people here have been fantastic in accepting us and supporting us. From that point of view, I couldn't have asked for anything more."

His goal now is to give them something to cheer.

"Before I leave, I would like to have a trophy in the cabinet and a winner's medal," he said.

But then he added the words which will delight the people he aims to please.

"I've still got another season after this and, under the new rules, I don't know if I'll be allowed to stay any longer," he admitted. "But both me and my wife are enjoying it, so if David Humphreys gives it a heads-up and says they'll keep me a bit longer, then why not?

"We'll see when it comes to that stage next year."
http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/h ... 56700.html
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LeinsterLion wrote:Amazed at the negative reaction to taking the captaincy off BOD. Thought it was a good move, and retaining Heaslip makes sense for the same reasons appointing him in November did. Over all I don't have an issue with it, and I'm far from a Kidney fan.
this +1 and :thumbup:
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Willie Falloon wrote:
Pienaar eager to nail down contract extension with Ulster

Friday January 18 2013
Ruan Pienaar has given Ulster rugby fans a massive shot in the arm by revealing that he would like to sign a contract extension.

With Mark Anscombe's side flying out this morning to the south of France, where they must beat Castres Olympique tomorrow in the hope of securing a home quarter-final in the Heineken Cup, the mercurial half-back spoke of his love affair with Ulster.

"I have never looked back since coming here, though I'm not saying there aren't days when I do miss all the family back home and playing for the Sharks in Durban," said the Springboks star – a player much coveted by Ulster's rivals.

"But since coming here, I think I have grown as a player and as a person and, ultimately, that is what you want. I've really had a fantastic time so far. Obviously, before coming here, you don't know what to expect.

MEMORIES

"As a player, you just want to play well and make a difference to the team. Your hope is that when you leave, it will be with good memories.

"The people here have been fantastic in accepting us and supporting us. From that point of view, I couldn't have asked for anything more."

His goal now is to give them something to cheer.

"Before I leave, I would like to have a trophy in the cabinet and a winner's medal," he said.

But then he added the words which will delight the people he aims to please.

"I've still got another season after this and, under the new rules, I don't know if I'll be allowed to stay any longer," he admitted. "But both me and my wife are enjoying it, so if David Humphreys gives it a heads-up and says they'll keep me a bit longer, then why not?

"We'll see when it comes to that stage next year."
http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/h ... 56700.html
Sounds to me like Pienaar wants to go home and he's reminding potential suitors of when his contract is up. He's doing it smartly though without offending anyone at Ulster
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Conspicuous wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:
Pienaar eager to nail down contract extension with Ulster

Friday January 18 2013
Ruan Pienaar has given Ulster rugby fans a massive shot in the arm by revealing that he would like to sign a contract extension.

With Mark Anscombe's side flying out this morning to the south of France, where they must beat Castres Olympique tomorrow in the hope of securing a home quarter-final in the Heineken Cup, the mercurial half-back spoke of his love affair with Ulster.

"I have never looked back since coming here, though I'm not saying there aren't days when I do miss all the family back home and playing for the Sharks in Durban," said the Springboks star – a player much coveted by Ulster's rivals.

"But since coming here, I think I have grown as a player and as a person and, ultimately, that is what you want. I've really had a fantastic time so far. Obviously, before coming here, you don't know what to expect.

MEMORIES

"As a player, you just want to play well and make a difference to the team. Your hope is that when you leave, it will be with good memories.

"The people here have been fantastic in accepting us and supporting us. From that point of view, I couldn't have asked for anything more."

His goal now is to give them something to cheer.

"Before I leave, I would like to have a trophy in the cabinet and a winner's medal," he said.

But then he added the words which will delight the people he aims to please.

"I've still got another season after this and, under the new rules, I don't know if I'll be allowed to stay any longer," he admitted. "But both me and my wife are enjoying it, so if David Humphreys gives it a heads-up and says they'll keep me a bit longer, then why not?

"We'll see when it comes to that stage next year."
http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/h ... 56700.html
Sounds to me like Pienaar wants to go home and he's reminding potential suitors of when his contract is up. He's doing it smartly though without offending anyone at Ulster
He said in an interview a couple of weeks ago that he wouldn't mind finishing his career in Ulster. :roll:
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Stringer is off to Bath on loan. Even more Williams x( .
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I really can't see the issue with Heaslip retaining the captaincy. Its a non-story in rugby terms, presuming O'Driscoll will be selected when fit. If D'Arcy is selected and BOD is fit, and Keet still gets the nod, it will be a new low for Kidney.

Dragging Heaslip and the captaincy into the equation is disrespectful to Heaslip and the massive contribution he has made for Ireland. Our media feel a lot more confident bickering about the captaincy like a bunch of teenage girls than they do discussing tactics.
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LeinsterLion wrote:Amazed at the negative reaction to taking the captaincy off BOD. Thought it was a good move, and retaining Heaslip makes sense for the same reasons appointing him in November did. Over all I don't have an issue with it, and I'm far from a Kidney fan.

It is actually quite amazing. Very Irish trait to not be objective and speak about something emotionally, like alot of former teams have recently
Dragging Heaslip and the captaincy into the equation is disrespectful to Heaslip and the massive contribution he has made for Ireland. Our media feel a lot more confident bickering about the captaincy like a bunch of teenage girls than they do discussing tactics
That is a very good point, again points to levels of stupidity the journos are at ( and alot of their readers) instead of objective analysis, it is emotional tripe.
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tazman77 wrote:Stringer is off to Bath on loan. Even more Williams x( .
FFS! How much does a hitman cost? We could have a whip around
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Willie Falloon wrote:
Conspicuous wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:
Pienaar eager to nail down contract extension with Ulster

Friday January 18 2013
Ruan Pienaar has given Ulster rugby fans a massive shot in the arm by revealing that he would like to sign a contract extension.

With Mark Anscombe's side flying out this morning to the south of France, where they must beat Castres Olympique tomorrow in the hope of securing a home quarter-final in the Heineken Cup, the mercurial half-back spoke of his love affair with Ulster.

"I have never looked back since coming here, though I'm not saying there aren't days when I do miss all the family back home and playing for the Sharks in Durban," said the Springboks star – a player much coveted by Ulster's rivals.

"But since coming here, I think I have grown as a player and as a person and, ultimately, that is what you want. I've really had a fantastic time so far. Obviously, before coming here, you don't know what to expect.

MEMORIES

"As a player, you just want to play well and make a difference to the team. Your hope is that when you leave, it will be with good memories.

"The people here have been fantastic in accepting us and supporting us. From that point of view, I couldn't have asked for anything more."

His goal now is to give them something to cheer.

"Before I leave, I would like to have a trophy in the cabinet and a winner's medal," he said.

But then he added the words which will delight the people he aims to please.

"I've still got another season after this and, under the new rules, I don't know if I'll be allowed to stay any longer," he admitted. "But both me and my wife are enjoying it, so if David Humphreys gives it a heads-up and says they'll keep me a bit longer, then why not?

"We'll see when it comes to that stage next year."
http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/h ... 56700.html
Sounds to me like Pienaar wants to go home and he's reminding potential suitors of when his contract is up. He's doing it smartly though without offending anyone at Ulster
He said in an interview a couple of weeks ago that he wouldn't mind finishing his career in Ulster. :roll:
He playing the game Willie, angling for a good monthly pay cheque when this one runs out. At worst he will get resigned by Ulster on a similar contract and ideally for him he will go back to the Sharks on a big contract. He's playing the game very cleverly in fairness by saying he would be happy to stay in Belfast while simultaneously making it known that he misses home
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Hellraiser wrote:I really wish the media would get people other than former teammates/mates of current players to talk about things like the captaincy issue. Quinny is trying to be objective but Shaggy is being really over-emotive about the whole thing.
Listened to that last night and thought the same. Shaggy let himself down a bit - for the right reasons though.

The thing that struck me as perhaps most worth debating about the whole Captaincy issue was utterly ignored.

There are reasons for and against BOD retaining the job/it being handed over. But for me the core consideration should be that if it is given elsewhere, that the receiver is up to the task - and sorry; Heaslip leaves me hugely underwhelmed. That, for me would have been worth debating a bit. Rory Best? Between injuries, form of other hookers etc, might not be 'guaranteed' a straight 6N run. I'd guess that 'most likely to' have a straight run through figured high in Kidney's mind.

Regardless: Kidney needs to realise that he needs to be a bit more forthcoming with his reasoning - not full disclosure or anything like it - but he can't expect the media or fans to lap up his line of cliche/platitudes and like it.

I suspect Kidney has reached a point where he couldn't be bothered changing his ways, as he knows he's not there for much longer regardless.

But Shaggy came across as the best friend of the dumped boyfriend arguing the case with the ex-girlfriend. Bit wet. :blush:
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Willie Falloon wrote::lol:
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Conn wrote:
LeinsterLion wrote:Amazed at the negative reaction to taking the captaincy off BOD. Thought it was a good move, and retaining Heaslip makes sense for the same reasons appointing him in November did. Over all I don't have an issue with it, and I'm far from a Kidney fan.
this +1 and :thumbup:
Ditto.
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PornDog wrote:Whatever about taking the captaincy off of BOD, which in principal I have no objection to, to do so to give it Heaslip just doesn't really make sense to me.

I really don't rate Heaslip as a captain, he has too much of the class joker about him to be taken seriously. It would appear by refs too judging by the SA game.

Sexton makes the most sense to be fair, as he's always available (touch wood), a first team automatic choice and is undoubtedly a leader. Plus it would make it more difficult for that f**king useless langer to give him the shepherds crook in favour of his pet.
you have answered your own question
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Nolanator wrote:
Conn wrote:
LeinsterLion wrote:Amazed at the negative reaction to taking the captaincy off BOD. Thought it was a good move, and retaining Heaslip makes sense for the same reasons appointing him in November did. Over all I don't have an issue with it, and I'm far from a Kidney fan.
this +1 and :thumbup:
Ditto.
Wait til he drops BOD for Keet

you'll look like dim cnuts then

Thin end of the wedge and a personal vendetta against BOD.

I view the sidelining of BOD as a deliberate political move related to Deccies own contract position.*





*based on absolutely no actual factual information
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BOD hasn't a whole lot left in the tank. He has been injured for quite a while, his form right now in unknown. Although of course keet isn't the answer
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If Ireland line up in the pack like this:

Healy
Best
Ross
Ryan
McCarthy
SOB
Henry/POM
Heaslip

That makes Heaslip the most experienced forward outside of Best.

I like Heaslip as Captain he needs time to grow into the role as did BOD who is coming to the end. It had to happen at some stage.
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Not having a go, but it really is amazing how much Heaslip polarises people's opinions. I'd be inclined to think that any line of thought which is aligned with that of George Hook should quickly be abandoned.

He hasn't captained Leinster lots for the jollies because Joe likes his headphones. Nor was he selected as Ireland captain in November for shits and giggles. He's been an absolute mainstay of the Leinster pack for pushing 7 years and the Irish pack for about 4. He's done a huge amount. Granted, he may not fit the idea of a captain that lots of people have, but he's clearly respected by his colleagues.
That said, I would be 100% behind Best being captain if he'd been selected. But I guess Heaslip getting it shows some continuity between the AIs and this 6N. Try to keep the feel-good from the Argie game going and build on things. Change as little as possible. I can also see how the quiet farmer Best would appear as a more attractive candidate as captain for Munster folk, fits the image of pashun and honesty a lot better than Jamie (only slightly taking the piss).
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Ryan has really disappointed me lately. But we don't have many options :thumbdown:
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Mulleh wrote:BOD hasn't a whole lot left in the tank.
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Nolanator wrote:Not having a go, but it really is amazing how much Heaslip polarises people's opinions. I'd be inclined to think that any line of thought which is aligned with that of George Hook should quickly be abandoned.

He hasn't captained Leinster lots for the jollies because Joe likes his headphones. Nor was he selected as Ireland captain in November for shits and giggles. He's been an absolute mainstay of the Leinster pack for pushing 7 years and the Irish pack for about 4. He's done a huge amount. Granted, he may not fit the idea of a captain that lots of people have, but he's clearly respected by his colleagues.
That said, I would be 100% behind Best being captain if he'd been selected. But I guess Heaslip getting it shows some continuity between the AIs and this 6N. Try to keep the feel-good from the Argie game going and build on things. Change as little as possible. I can also see how the quiet farmer Best would appear as a more attractive candidate as captain for Munster folk, fits the image of pashun and honesty a lot better than Jamie (only slightly taking the piss).
He's not the traditional Munster captain, which seems to be the main issue.

He's not the traditional Leinster captain either, but he's never let us down in that regard. I'm happy he's the next captain, and I've no problems with that being done. Seems to be a sensible move by Kidney.
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feckwanker wrote:
tazman77 wrote:Stringer is off to Bath on loan. Even more Williams x( .
FFS! How much does a hitman cost? We could have a whip around
Well Sheridan will have to see some gametime,which is a good thing. Now getting him ahead of Williams is the next thing.
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Conspicious has an awful dislike of everything Ulster/Protestant.
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So ignore him.
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anonymous_joe wrote:So ignore him.
So wrong Joe, so wrong :| :|
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No one has mentioned the colour of Heaslip's shoes yet
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thekingsnotdead wrote:No one has mentioned the colour of Heaslip's shoes yet
He tweeted a pic of a whole load of boots he got recently. All white with trims of purple, green etc. Clearly not captaincy material.
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Honestly thought Sexton might have made more sense, but that might be one for the future I guess. It was likely to be one of Heaslip, Best or Sexton I reckon. But taking it off BOD right now isn't a particularly controversial choice.

Play your game BOD; concentrate on that; give us the best of what you've got left for as long as you have it in you. And if not having the shite to deal with that goes with the captaincy makes it easier in ANY way to focus on in order to do that; then makes sense to me.

The "He'll never be given the Lions Captaincy now" ochón, ochónery on Newstalk last night was pitiful.

On the plus side; I reckon if Simon Hicks (name?) gets to interview Kidney like that one more time, I reckon we'll see Kidney drop the Mr.Niceguy facade and slam a cocktail umbrella through Hicks' retina. I thought he came as close as I think I've ever heard him to "look sonny, just feck off back to whatever keyboard it is you crawled out from under and leave the decision-making to the grown-ups"...
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Nolanator wrote:Not having a go, but it really is amazing how much Heaslip polarises people's opinions. I'd be inclined to think that any line of thought which is aligned with that of George Hook should quickly be abandoned.

He hasn't captained Leinster lots for the jollies because Joe likes his headphones. Nor was he selected as Ireland captain in November for shits and giggles. He's been an absolute mainstay of the Leinster pack for pushing 7 years and the Irish pack for about 4. He's done a huge amount. Granted, he may not fit the idea of a captain that lots of people have, but he's clearly respected by his colleagues.
That said, I would be 100% behind Best being captain if he'd been selected. But I guess Heaslip getting it shows some continuity between the AIs and this 6N. Try to keep the feel-good from the Argie game going and build on things. Change as little as possible. I can also see how the quiet farmer Best would appear as a more attractive candidate as captain for Munster folk, fits the image of pashun and honesty a lot better than Jamie (only slightly taking the piss).
The most shocking thing of all, is that you didn't start the passage with "We, the enlightened...." :nod:
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I'd have backed Sexton.
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He's captained a Test side 84 times which must be the record, no?

I would have given it to Sexton but I'm sure Heaslip will do a good job.
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Naming Sexton captain would def keep him from shipping off to racing
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Honestly thought Sexton might have made more sense
Well maybe if he was IRFU contracted beyond this season it might have gone to him. The test captain should be based in Ireland so they can fulfil the off field responsibilities that go with the role, so Heaslip offers a presence and stability.
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Brumby_in_Vic wrote:
Honestly thought Sexton might have made more sense
Well maybe if he was IRFU contracted beyond this season it might have gone to him. The test captain should be based in Ireland so they can fulfil the off field responsibilities that go with the role, so Heaslip offers a presence and stability.
Fair point.

There isn't a Munsterman worthy of consideration, which troubles me. But there you go. We're at where we're at.
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Sexton would have been a good choice but as someone said in a previous post is very difficult to motivate your players when you have a day off with the boot, too much pressure to be the captaing, playmaker and kicker. Ogara, despite now is a past it non tackling non runing fly half he is considered one of the leaders, but raretime has captained Munster (despite all Oconels abscences) and only has captained Ireland once (if i remember correctly)
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topo wrote:Sexton would have been a good choice but as someone said in a previous post is very difficult to motivate your players when you have a day off with the boot, too much pressure to be the captaing, playmaker and kicker. Ogara, despite now is a past it non tackling non runing fly half he is considered one of the leaders, but raretime has captained Munster (despite all Oconels abscences) and only has captained Ireland once (if i remember correctly)
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redrebel wrote:
topo wrote:Sexton would have been a good choice but as someone said in a previous post is very difficult to motivate your players when you have a day off with the boot, too much pressure to be the captaing, playmaker and kicker. Ogara, despite now is a past it non tackling non runing fly half he is considered one of the leaders, but raretime has captained Munster (despite all Oconels abscences) and only has captained Ireland once (if i remember correctly)
:uhoh: :uhoh:
Leave the lad alone

he's obviously a Gaelgoir without Bearla as a cead teanga ;)
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redderneck wrote:
Brumby_in_Vic wrote:
Honestly thought Sexton might have made more sense
Well maybe if he was IRFU contracted beyond this season it might have gone to him. The test captain should be based in Ireland so they can fulfil the off field responsibilities that go with the role, so Heaslip offers a presence and stability.
Fair point.

There isn't a Munsterman worthy of consideration, which troubles me. But there you go. We're at where we're at.
Exactly and that also makes WF's whinge about Connacht players being in the Ireland squad even more stupid. No 12 from Munster has put their hand up and L Marshall is injured so McSharry got a call up, same goes for fullback Jones has been poor and Henshaw is the form Irish fullback in the country.

Heaslip has business interests in Ireland and is studying so he is more likely to stay in the country then someone like Sexton.
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waguser wrote:
redrebel wrote:
topo wrote:Sexton would have been a good choice but as someone said in a previous post is very difficult to motivate your players when you have a day off with the boot, too much pressure to be the captaing, playmaker and kicker. Ogara, despite now is a past it non tackling non runing fly half he is considered one of the leaders, but raretime has captained Munster (despite all Oconels abscences) and only has captained Ireland once (if i remember correctly)
:uhoh: :uhoh:
Leave the lad alone

he's obviously a Gaelgoir without Bearla as a cead teanga ;)
my bad :blush:
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Ulster squad v Castres Olympique named. Starts for Paul Marshall, Neil McComb, Michael Allen and Roger Wilson. Kick off at Stade Pierre-Antoine is 1.35 GMT.

(15-9): Gilroy; Trimble, Cave, Wallace, Allen; Pienaar, Marshall;
(1-8): Court, Best, Afoa, Stevenson, McComb, Diack, Henry (capt), Wilson;
Replacements (16-23): Herring, Black, Fitzpatrick, Henderson, McComish, Heaney, Jackson, Cochrane.

Payne not risked. I think we have to hope that team can win, the TBP is a pipe dream so best case scenario is we win and rely Edinburgh fronting up :lol:

It will be interesting to see how Gilroy goes at 15 and congrats Michael Allen on his first HEC start. Possibly McCombs too? Some decnt impact on the bench as well
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