The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Willie Falloon · Post by **Willie Falloon** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:52 am

What does D'arcy have to do to get dropped?

I don't buy it that Ireland where class in the 1st half, France where bloody crap for 40mins, they could hardly do anything. They picked it up in the 2nd half and Ireland didn't score a point.

Veru disappointed that Ferris is being flogged 4 weeks in a row what with his knee condition.

earl the beaver · Post by **earl the beaver** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:55 am

Anyway.

Ulster looking strong for next season eh?

Post by **SASP** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:56 am

camroc1 wrote:
SASP wrote:
camroc1 wrote:Thornley predicting that Ryan and Reddan will be the only two changes.
Expecting anything else?
I'm nearly missing the days of adventurous Eddie at this stage.

This is a tough year for Ireland thanks to the World cup rankings. We might just have to ride it out in the hope new blood is tried next year.
On the subject of new blood. Wonder if he continues to improve will the side stepping skyscraper get a chance?
Toner is one of my favorites outside Ulster. He has improved a huge amount this year. Note how well he did against Richie Gray in the two HC games versus Glasgow.

Post by **SASP** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:59 am

Willie Falloon wrote:What does D'arcy have to do to get dropped?

I don't buy it that Ireland where class in the 1st half, France where bloody crap for 40mins, they could hardly do anything. They picked it up in the 2nd half and Ireland didn't score a point.

Veru disappointed that Ferris is being flogged 4 weeks in a row what with his knee condition.

He'll never get dropped when BOD is out. The thought of making two changes in the centres makes Deccie very uncomfortable.

Post by **SASP** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:01 am

earl the beaver wrote:Anyway.

Ulster looking strong for next season eh?

Yup. Really impressed with Paddy Mac. Strong as an ox that boy.

Mr. Very Popular · Post by **Mr. Very Popular** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:03 am

Wally the hero,back for the weekend

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/m ... 41676.html

earl the beaver · Post by **earl the beaver** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:04 am

SASP wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:Anyway.

Ulster looking strong for next season eh?
Yup. Really impressed with Paddy Mac. Strong as an ox that boy.

And for all the talk of saffer imports we've been bringing back Ulster guys from elsewhere, McComish, Stevenson, Barker and now Wilson and Bowe.

Post by **SASP** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:05 am

earl the beaver wrote:
SASP wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:Anyway.

Ulster looking strong for next season eh?
Yup. Really impressed with Paddy Mac. Strong as an ox that boy.
And for all the talk of saffer imports we've been bringing back Ulster guys from elsewhere, McComish, Stevenson, Barker and now Wilson and Bowe.

Yup Bowe said it on a Welsh site that is was David Humph who told him his vision for Ulster involved a core of Ulster born players.

Post by **SASP** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:13 am

PRs Statistics of the six nations so far.

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,35 ... 95,00.html

We have the least tackles missed. 14 in 3 games. 96% Tackle success rate is the highest.
MOST TURNOVER = 16

Most points scored = 80
Most tries scored = 9
Top try scorer = Tommy Bowe

Ireland's Call · Post by **Ireland's Call** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:13 am

You know that sick feeling you get in your stomach as a nightmare scenario slowly becomes more likely?

Best injured, SOB has some kind of infection on his foot? DOC's ankle is a concern...

Kidney slips even more conservatively into his shell and decides ROG is the answer with the captaincy vacant. We win against Scotland and Kidney keeps ROG for Twickenham where he proceeds to get steamrolled by Tuilagi and we lose a poor match on St. Patricks day.

clifton cowboy · Post by **clifton cowboy** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:16 am

lovely bit of rugby by ulster v edi the other day

whats the chances ireland can replciate against sweaties ?

what with our extensive coaching regime & fantastic player access

the power of 4 as it were

Mr. Very Popular · Post by **Mr. Very Popular** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:17 am

Ireland's Call wrote:You know that sick feeling you get in your stomach as a nightmare scenario slowly becomes more likely?

Best injured, SOB has some kind of infection on his foot? DOC's ankle is a concern...

Kidney slips even more conservatively into his shell and decides ROG is the answer. We win against Scotland and Kidney keeps ROG for Twickenham where he proceeds to get steamrolled by Tuilagi and we lose a poor match on St. Patricks day.

Lay off the Brie before bedtime.
Not a hope he'll drop Sexton when most of the team is falling apart,he might have if everyone was fit and so many changes weren't forced on him.

grimoald · Post by **grimoald** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:31 am

Willie Falloon wrote:Veru disappointed that Ferris is being flogged 4 weeks in a row what with his knee condition.

Did you ever complain when BOD was playing with bad hamstrings or a f**ked up shoulder?

Willie Falloon · Post by **Willie Falloon** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:32 am

grimoald wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:Veru disappointed that Ferris is being flogged 4 weeks in a row what with his knee condition.
Did you ever complain when BOD was playing with bad hamstrings or a f**ked up shoulder?

Always.

Post by **SASP** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:41 am

Willie Falloon wrote:
grimoald wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:Veru disappointed that Ferris is being flogged 4 weeks in a row what with his knee condition.
Did you ever complain when BOD was playing with bad hamstrings or a f**ked up shoulder?
Always.

Even if he didn't thats a redundant point now. If more options were available to replace BOD then he could have been rested but we didn't and really still dont. With Ferris its a bit different. He is playing great at the moment but there are no shortage of decent blindsides to come in. So protect the big lad and not risk loosing him for another half season or even longer.

binge90 · Post by **binge90** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:42 am

SASP wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:
grimoald wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:Veru disappointed that Ferris is being flogged 4 weeks in a row what with his knee condition.
Did you ever complain when BOD was playing with bad hamstrings or a f**ked up shoulder?
Always.
Even if he didn't thats a redundant point now. If more options were available to replace BOD then he could have been rested but we didn't and really still dont. With Ferris its a bit different. He is playing great at the moment but there are no shortage of decent blindsides to come in. So protect the big lad and not risk loosing him for another half season or even longer.

Despot · Post by **Despot** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:44 am

SASP wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:
grimoald wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:Veru disappointed that Ferris is being flogged 4 weeks in a row what with his knee condition.
Did you ever complain when BOD was playing with bad hamstrings or a f**ked up shoulder?
Always.
Even if he didn't thats a redundant point now. If more options were available to replace BOD then he could have been rested but we didn't and really still dont. With Ferris its a bit different. He is playing great at the moment but there are no shortage of decent blindsides to come in. So protect the big lad and not risk loosing him for another half season or even longer.

A rest was a possibilty before POC got injured. Its not just about backrow for a backrow but the overall mix in the pack. Those two are the main enforcers and leaders by deed.

Post by **SASP** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:48 am

Despot wrote:
SASP wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:
grimoald wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:Veru disappointed that Ferris is being flogged 4 weeks in a row what with his knee condition.
Did you ever complain when BOD was playing with bad hamstrings or a f**ked up shoulder?
Always.
Even if he didn't thats a redundant point now. If more options were available to replace BOD then he could have been rested but we didn't and really still dont. With Ferris its a bit different. He is playing great at the moment but there are no shortage of decent blindsides to come in. So protect the big lad and not risk loosing him for another half season or even longer.
A rest was a possibilty before POC got injured. Its not just about backrow for a backrow but the overall mix in the pack. Those two are the main enforcers and leaders by deed.

I'm not arguing that point just pointing out the difference. The drop in quality from Ferris to SOB is nothing near the drop in quality from BOD to (insert any centre we have here).

MunsterMan!!!!! · Post by **MunsterMan!!!!!** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:53 am

Mr. Very Popular wrote:Wally the hero,back for the weekend

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/m ... 41676.html

This has just made my day, didn't think he would be back in this week or next, but a spot on the bench and maybe 20/30 mins would be great, full match next week against the westie and then Leinster!!!!!!!! and then Ulster. A BR of him, POM and Coughlan ain't bad, esp considering Coughlan is in very good form. If we could get Murray and POC back for the 1/4 against Ulster we might have some hope!

Armchair_Superstar · Post by **Armchair_Superstar** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:57 am

Willie Falloon wrote:What does D'arcy have to do to get dropped?

I don't buy it that Ireland where class in the 1st half, France where bloody crap for 40mins, they could hardly do anything. They picked it up in the 2nd half and Ireland didn't score a point.

Veru disappointed that Ferris is being flogged 4 weeks in a row what with his knee condition.

France had a shit first half because Ireland ruined them in contact and worked a very aggressive rush defence - that was a very good half of rugby from Ireland.

Unfortunately by 50 minutes a lot of the Ireland players were gassed and we lost a bit of concentration in attack and turned over too much ball. To give the players their due they still defended like madmen, but fatigue took the edge off the attacking ability.

It is wrong to complain about Ferris being "overused" by Ireland. He is a senior player, it is a bit of a risk putting him in there but it has to be done. He certainly has a lot less miles on the clock than SOB or Heaslip over the past two seasons.

earl the beaver · Post by **earl the beaver** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:57 am

There's no fooling anyone, the cousin fondlers are massive favourites for the quarter.

Mr. Very Popular · Post by **Mr. Very Popular** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:58 am

MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:
Mr. Very Popular wrote:Wally the hero,back for the weekend

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/m ... 41676.html

This has just made my day, didn't think he would be back in this week or next, but a spot on the bench and maybe 20/30 mins would be great, full match next week against the westie and then Leinster!!!!!!!! and then Ulster. A BR of him, POM and Coughlan ain't bad, esp considering Coughlan is in very good form. If we could get Murray and POC back for the 1/4 against Ulster we might have some hope!

Getting him back now is like a new signing,great timing for it as well esp if PoC doesn't make it back
I have a feeling we'll have a full team out for the QF though,a one legged PoC would still do a job.

Post by **SASP** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:01 pm

Armchair_Superstar wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:What does D'arcy have to do to get dropped?

I don't buy it that Ireland where class in the 1st half, France where bloody crap for 40mins, they could hardly do anything. They picked it up in the 2nd half and Ireland didn't score a point.

Veru disappointed that Ferris is being flogged 4 weeks in a row what with his knee condition.
France had a shit first half because Ireland ruined them in contact and worked a very aggressive rush defence - that was a very good half of rugby from Ireland.

Unfortunately by 50 minutes a lot of the Ireland players were gassed and we lost a bit of concentration in attack and turned over too much ball. To give the players their due they still defended like madmen, but fatigue took the edge off the attacking ability.

It is wrong to complain about Ferris being "overused" by Ireland. He is a senior player, it is a bit of a risk putting him in there but it has to be done. He certainly has a lot less miles on the clock than SOB or Heaslip over the past two seasons.

Yes those two have played huge numbers of games compared to Ferris in the last 2 years but neither of them have a history of dodgy knees.

Hellraiser · Post by **Hellraiser** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:06 pm

earl the beaver wrote:There's no fooling anyone, the cousin fondlers are massive favourites for the quarter.

Arrah sure if we keep within 20 of ye we'll be happy.

Willie Falloon · Post by **Willie Falloon** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:08 pm

Armchair_Superstar wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:What does D'arcy have to do to get dropped?

I don't buy it that Ireland where class in the 1st half, France where bloody crap for 40mins, they could hardly do anything. They picked it up in the 2nd half and Ireland didn't score a point.

Veru disappointed that Ferris is being flogged 4 weeks in a row what with his knee condition.
France had a shit first half because Ireland ruined them in contact and worked a very aggressive rush defence - that was a very good half of rugby from Ireland.

Unfortunately by 50 minutes a lot of the Ireland players were gassed and we lost a bit of concentration in attack and turned over too much ball. To give the players their due they still defended like madmen, but fatigue took the edge off the attacking ability.

It is wrong to complain about Ferris being "overused" by Ireland. He is a senior player, it is a bit of a risk putting him in there but it has to be done. He certainly has a lot less miles on the clock than SOB or Heaslip over the past two seasons.

SOB and Heaslip don't have a knee running bone on bone. 1 more injury to that knee for Ferris and it could be curtains for his rugby career.

Mr. Very Popular · Post by **Mr. Very Popular** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:09 pm

Hellraiser wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:There's no fooling anyone, the cousin fondlers are massive favourites for the quarter.

Arrah sure if we keep within 20 of ye we'll be happy.

Heller- Facebook message for you,should make you laugh.

Hellraiser · Post by **Hellraiser** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:10 pm

Mr. Very Popular wrote:
Hellraiser wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:There's no fooling anyone, the cousin fondlers are massive favourites for the quarter.

Arrah sure if we keep within 20 of ye we'll be happy.
Heller- Facebook message for you,should make you laugh.

Oh please God let that be true, just for the lulz.

Willie Falloon · Post by **Willie Falloon** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:11 pm

15.Jones - Terblanche
14.Howlett - Trimble
13.Earls - Cave
12.Mafi - Wallace
11.Zebo - Gilroy
10.ROG - Humphreys
9.Murray - Pienaar
8.Coughlan - Wannenburg
7.Wallace - Henry
6.O'Mahoney - Ferris
5.POC - Tuohy
4.Ryan - Muller
3.Botha - Afoa
2.Varley - Best
1.Du Preez - Court

Where exactly is the major weakness in that Munster team? On paper Munster should win and win pretty well.

Post by **SASP** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:11 pm

Willie Falloon wrote:
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:What does D'arcy have to do to get dropped?

I don't buy it that Ireland where class in the 1st half, France where bloody crap for 40mins, they could hardly do anything. They picked it up in the 2nd half and Ireland didn't score a point.

Veru disappointed that Ferris is being flogged 4 weeks in a row what with his knee condition.
France had a shit first half because Ireland ruined them in contact and worked a very aggressive rush defence - that was a very good half of rugby from Ireland.

Unfortunately by 50 minutes a lot of the Ireland players were gassed and we lost a bit of concentration in attack and turned over too much ball. To give the players their due they still defended like madmen, but fatigue took the edge off the attacking ability.

It is wrong to complain about Ferris being "overused" by Ireland. He is a senior player, it is a bit of a risk putting him in there but it has to be done. He certainly has a lot less miles on the clock than SOB or Heaslip over the past two seasons.
SOB and Heaslip don't have a knee running bone on bone. 1 more injury to that knee for Ferris and it could be curtains for hsi rugby career.

I know its bad but i think bone on bone is exaggeration. I'm not sure its possible to run like he does if it was bone on bone.
I have had one major knee injury that required surgery and it will never be right again so I worry for Ferris.

Mr. Very Popular · Post by **Mr. Very Popular** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:12 pm

Hellraiser wrote:
Mr. Very Popular wrote:
Hellraiser wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:There's no fooling anyone, the cousin fondlers are massive favourites for the quarter.

Arrah sure if we keep within 20 of ye we'll be happy.
Heller- Facebook message for you,should make you laugh.

Oh please God let that be true, just for the lulz.

If both come through there'll be heads exploding all over the shop

binge90 · Post by **binge90** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:13 pm

Armchair_Superstar wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:What does D'arcy have to do to get dropped?

I don't buy it that Ireland where class in the 1st half, France where bloody crap for 40mins, they could hardly do anything. They picked it up in the 2nd half and Ireland didn't score a point.

Veru disappointed that Ferris is being flogged 4 weeks in a row what with his knee condition.
France had a shit first half because Ireland ruined them in contact and worked a very aggressive rush defence - that was a very good half of rugby from Ireland.

Unfortunately by 50 minutes a lot of the Ireland players were gassed and we lost a bit of concentration in attack and turned over too much ball. To give the players their due they still defended like madmen, but fatigue took the edge off the attacking ability.

It is wrong to complain about Ferris being "overused" by Ireland. He is a senior player, it is a bit of a risk putting him in there but it has to be done. He certainly has a lot less miles on the clock than SOB or Heaslip over the past two seasons.

This.

Hellraiser · Post by **Hellraiser** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:13 pm

Willie Falloon wrote:15.Jones - Terblanche
14.Howlett - Trimble
13.Earls - Cave
12.Mafi - Wallace
11.Zebo - Gilroy
10.ROG - Humphreys
9.Murray - Pienaar
8.Coughlan - Wannenburg
7.Wallace - Henry
6.O'Mahoney - Ferris
5.POC - Tuohy
4.Ryan - Muller
3.Botha - Afoa
2.Varley - Best
1.Du Preez - Court

Where exactly is the major weakness in that Munster team? On paper Munster should win and win pretty well.

Well the fella with the ruptured Achilles tendon for starters.

Willie Falloon · Post by **Willie Falloon** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:13 pm

Mr. Very Popular wrote:
Hellraiser wrote:
Mr. Very Popular wrote:
Hellraiser wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:There's no fooling anyone, the cousin fondlers are massive favourites for the quarter.

Arrah sure if we keep within 20 of ye we'll be happy.
Heller- Facebook message for you,should make you laugh.

Oh please God let that be true, just for the lulz.
If both come through there'll be heads exploding all over the shop

This is a very rude conversation. Either tell us or take it to your facebook page.

Mr. Very Popular · Post by **Mr. Very Popular** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:15 pm

Willie Falloon wrote:15.Jones - Terblanche
14.Howlett - Trimble
13.Earls - Cave
12.Mafi - Wallace
11.Zebo - Gilroy
10.ROG - Humphreys
9.Murray - Pienaar
8.Coughlan - Wannenburg
7.Wallace - Henry
6.O'Mahoney - Ferris
5.POC - Tuohy
4.Ryan - Muller
3.Botha - Afoa
2.Varley - Best
1.Du Preez - Court

Where exactly is the major weakness in that Munster team? On paper Munster should win and win pretty well.

Maybe-
Howlett,out for the season.
PoC and murray might not make it
Wallace hasn't actually returned yet.

Willie Falloon · Post by **Willie Falloon** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:18 pm

Mr. Very Popular wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:15.Jones - Terblanche
14.Howlett - Trimble
13.Earls - Cave
12.Mafi - Wallace
11.Zebo - Gilroy
10.ROG - Humphreys
9.Murray - Pienaar
8.Coughlan - Wannenburg
7.Wallace - Henry
6.O'Mahoney - Ferris
5.POC - Tuohy
4.Ryan - Muller
3.Botha - Afoa
2.Varley - Best
1.Du Preez - Court

Where exactly is the major weakness in that Munster team? On paper Munster should win and win pretty well.
Maybe-
Howlett,out for the season.
PoC and murray might not make it
Wallace hasn't actually returned yet.

Don't worry. In Paper I think Ulster have the beating of you.

Frontrow - Ulster
2nd row - Munster, but not by much.
Backrow - Evens. Both backrows consist of a top class player, an Irish squad player and a workhorse
Halfbacks - SH Ulster, flyhalf - Munster. Albeit, Humph can be good on his day.
centres - Ulster
Back 3 - With Howlett out, I'd edge it towards Ulster.

Debate.

Mr. Very Popular · Post by **Mr. Very Popular** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:18 pm

Willie Falloon wrote:
Mr. Very Popular wrote:

This is a very rude conversation. Either tell us or take it to your facebook page.

Sorry,will do

LeinsterLion · Post by **LeinsterLion** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:22 pm

The first priority for Ferris is Ireland. End of. This isn't some warm up against a minnow side, it's the f**king six nations. You don't throw players in and out for the sake of it, you rotate from a position of strength with genuine options for valid reasons such as increasing depth and competition and progressing younger players.

And he's not being over played, it's five games in seven weeks.

Mr. Very Popular · Post by **Mr. Very Popular** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:23 pm

Willie Falloon wrote:
Mr. Very Popular wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:15.Jones - Terblanche
14.Howlett - Trimble
13.Earls - Cave
12.Mafi - Wallace
11.Zebo - Gilroy
10.ROG - Humphreys
9.Murray - Pienaar
8.Coughlan - Wannenburg
7.Wallace - Henry
6.O'Mahoney - Ferris
5.POC - Tuohy
4.Ryan - Muller
3.Botha - Afoa
2.Varley - Best
1.Du Preez - Court

Where exactly is the major weakness in that Munster team? On paper Munster should win and win pretty well.
Maybe-
Howlett,out for the season.
PoC and murray might not make it
Wallace hasn't actually returned yet.
Don't worry. In Paper I think Ulster have the beating of you.

Frontrow - Ulster
2nd row - Munster, but not by much.
Backrow - Evens. Both backrows consist of a top class player, an Irish squad player and a workhorse
Halfbacks - SH Ulster, flyhalf - Munster. Albeit, Humph can be good on his day.
centres - Ulster
Back 3 - With Howlett out, I'd edge it towards Ulster.

Debate.

If Marshall and Piennar play I think Ulster will win,if Humphs gets the nod I'd fear for his life considering what he did with the Tiggers still has payback to be dealt out.

Willie Falloon · Post by **Willie Falloon** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:25 pm

Mr. Very Popular wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:
Mr. Very Popular wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:15.Jones - Terblanche
14.Howlett - Trimble
13.Earls - Cave
12.Mafi - Wallace
11.Zebo - Gilroy
10.ROG - Humphreys
9.Murray - Pienaar
8.Coughlan - Wannenburg
7.Wallace - Henry
6.O'Mahoney - Ferris
5.POC - Tuohy
4.Ryan - Muller
3.Botha - Afoa
2.Varley - Best
1.Du Preez - Court

Where exactly is the major weakness in that Munster team? On paper Munster should win and win pretty well.
Maybe-
Howlett,out for the season.
PoC and murray might not make it
Wallace hasn't actually returned yet.
Don't worry. In Paper I think Ulster have the beating of you.

Frontrow - Ulster
2nd row - Munster, but not by much.
Backrow - Evens. Both backrows consist of a top class player, an Irish squad player and a workhorse
Halfbacks - SH Ulster, flyhalf - Munster. Albeit, Humph can be good on his day.
centres - Ulster
Back 3 - With Howlett out, I'd edge it towards Ulster.

Debate.
If Marshall and Piennar play I think Ulster will win,if Humphs gets the nod I'd fear for his life considering what he did with the Tiggers still has payback to be dealt out.

Humph played twice in Thommond park for Ulster since returning from leicester and was brilliant. Scored a solo try in 1 match and created a number of trys when we hammered you in early 2009. You've had your chance for 'payback'.

He loves it and I'm expecting an inspired performance from him.

Mr. Very Popular · Post by **Mr. Very Popular** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:32 pm

HEC is a different beast Willie,a very different approach,if you think the lat few results mean anything you're in for a big surprise.