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We're going to get reamed in the lineout. We can't even just throw to 2 because they'll put Gray there and he'll win more than he loses. I reckon we will attempt to hit Heaslip more often than not with varying success. With no defensive lineout to speak of we can't really play too much of a tactical game either (although Ryan's done well from the bench in that regard). Here's hoping it's a dry enough day and Reddan has a good game.
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soyhmf wrote:
kerry_exile wrote:
soyhmf wrote:
Mitty wrote:
kerry_exile wrote:Well, that was fairly meh! TOL on the bench, D4 heads will love it. :roll:
Do you even know what that means you f**king tool?
Like a four year old with his snotty nose pressed up against the window of the sweetie shop...

I can just hear it "deee far heds"
You're a right card aren't you? In case you have trouble reading (like you have forming cogent sentences seemingly)..I WOULDN'T HAVE TOL IN THE SQUAD AND ITS A JOKE.
Read that in whatever stereotypical accent you have in your head.
I frankly couldn't care less about TO'L, I was commenting on your stereotypical generalization that all Leinster fans are "d4 heads", and the even more inane assumption that this had something to do with people's perspective on the TO'L selection. So I responded with a little stereotyping of my own. You didn't like that too much, did you, you hairy shovel-handed turf-scented bumpkin?
So when anyone says "turnipfans" or "cousin-fuckers" on here in future I should throw a hissy fit like you've done? Get off your high horse ffs.
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CM11 wrote:We're going to get reamed in the lineout. We can't even just throw to 2 because they'll put Gray there and he'll win more than he loses. I reckon we will attempt to hit Heaslip more often than not with varying success. With no defensive lineout to speak of we can't really play too much of a tactical game either (although Ryan's done well from the bench in that regard). Here's hoping it's a dry enough day and Reddan has a good game.
Irish rugby is in a pretty dark place when we are relying on Eoin Reddan to have a good game.
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ZappaMan wrote:
CM11 wrote:We're going to get reamed in the lineout. We can't even just throw to 2 because they'll put Gray there and he'll win more than he loses. I reckon we will attempt to hit Heaslip more often than not with varying success. With no defensive lineout to speak of we can't really play too much of a tactical game either (although Ryan's done well from the bench in that regard). Here's hoping it's a dry enough day and Reddan has a good game.
Irish rugby is in a pretty dark place when we are relying on Eoin Reddan to have a good game.
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camroc1 wrote:
ZappaMan wrote:
CM11 wrote:We're going to get reamed in the lineout. We can't even just throw to 2 because they'll put Gray there and he'll win more than he loses. I reckon we will attempt to hit Heaslip more often than not with varying success. With no defensive lineout to speak of we can't really play too much of a tactical game either (although Ryan's done well from the bench in that regard). Here's hoping it's a dry enough day and Reddan has a good game.
Irish rugby is in a pretty dark place when we are relying on Eoin Reddan to have a good game.
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At least TOL is being kept away from the Munster side for this weekend. :nod:
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I'm a Leinster supporting D4 head. Who should I be angry with?
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Cossax wrote:At least TOL is being kept away from the Munster side for this weekend. :nod:
Actually who will play scrum half for you guys this weekend so, presume Stringer is still over in Newcastle.
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piaras wrote:
Cossax wrote:At least TOL is being kept away from the Munster side for this weekend. :nod:
Actually who will play scrum half for you guys this weekend so, presume Stringer is still over in Newcastle.
Duncan Williams, presumably.
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CM11 wrote:We're going to get reamed in the lineout. We can't even just throw to 2 because they'll put Gray there and he'll win more than he loses. I reckon we will attempt to hit Heaslip more often than not with varying success. With no defensive lineout to speak of we can't really play too much of a tactical game either (although Ryan's done well from the bench in that regard). Here's hoping it's a dry enough day and Reddan has a good game.

I agree, amazing to say but lucky for us that Parks has retired, Laidlaw isn't half the Kicker Parks is.
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Kidney ought to be fitted for a straight-jacket and sent to the finger painting academy.
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It's about the best team we could have hoped for from Kidney.
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anonymous_joe wrote:I'm a Leinster supporting D4 head. Who should I be angry with?

Yourself.
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Cossax wrote:At least TOL is being kept away from the Munster side for this weekend. :nod:

On the downside that means Williams will start.
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Hellraiser wrote:
Cossax wrote:At least TOL is being kept away from the Munster side for this weekend. :nod:

On the downside that means Williams will start.
Too bad you don't have another youngster like Murray to leapfrog everyone else.
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Hellraiser wrote:
anonymous_joe wrote:I'm a Leinster supporting D4 head. Who should I be angry with?

Yourself.
Ah that's just mean, HR. :lol:
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Wallace In Munster Squad

7 March 2012, 2:01 pm
By The Editor

David Wallace is included in the 27 strong Munster squad for the trip to Parma and RaboDirect PRO12 clash with Aironi

It's the first time Wallace has featured in a Munster squad this season having sustained a knee injury in the August international against England in Dublin.

Also included in the squad are Simon Zebo and Denis Hurley.

Both spent las week with the Ireland squad in Carton House, Hurley only released on the Friday morning. However, neither are required this week and will travel with the squad to Parma from Dublin Airport on Friday morning.

One notable absentee from the squad is Dave Foley who dislocated a shoulder on Saturday in Newport. He'll see a specialist on Monday to determine the exact extent of the injury.

Munster Squad: M Horan, W Du Preez, BJ Botha, J Ryan, D Fogarty, M Sherry, S Archer, B Holland, I Nagle, M O'Driscoll, Dave O'Callaghan, T O'Donnell, P Butler, J Coughlan, D Wallace, C Sheridan, D Williams, I Keatley, S Deasy, S Zebo, L Mafi, S Tokula, L O'Dea, D Hurley, F Jones, S Scanlon, J Murphy.

I just weed a little.
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anonymous_joe wrote:
Hellraiser wrote:
anonymous_joe wrote:I'm a Leinster supporting D4 head. Who should I be angry with?

Yourself.
Ah that's just mean, HR. :lol:

That's how I roll. :smug:
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DOB wrote:
CM11 wrote:
kerry_exile wrote:
Mitty wrote:
kerry_exile wrote:Well, that was fairly meh! TOL on the bench, D4 heads will love it. :roll:
Do you even know what that means you f**king tool?
Chill the beans. Perhaps I wasn't clear, IMO TOL shouldn't be anywhere near the squad either.
Your jibe would have been better if directed north. We have no feelings as such on it (other than general ones re. TOL himself) as Boss wasn't an option.
No, I'm pretty pissed off about it too. As, I think, should every rugby loving Irishman.
Being annoyed that TOL is 3rd/4th choice certainly beats being annoyed that TOL was first choice so things are going in the right direction there!

It's funny the way this thing has worked out. Reddan and Ryan were the two most contentious omissions from the starting XV and now they have their starts through injury.
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Hellraiser wrote:
Wallace In Munster Squad

7 March 2012, 2:01 pm
By The Editor

David Wallace is included in the 27 strong Munster squad for the trip to Parma and RaboDirect PRO12 clash with Aironi

It's the first time Wallace has featured in a Munster squad this season having sustained a knee injury in the August international against England in Dublin.

Also included in the squad are Simon Zebo and Denis Hurley.

Both spent las week with the Ireland squad in Carton House, Hurley only released on the Friday morning. However, neither are required this week and will travel with the squad to Parma from Dublin Airport on Friday morning.

One notable absentee from the squad is Dave Foley who dislocated a shoulder on Saturday in Newport. He'll see a specialist on Monday to determine the exact extent of the injury.

Munster Squad: M Horan, W Du Preez, BJ Botha, J Ryan, D Fogarty, M Sherry, S Archer, B Holland, I Nagle, M O'Driscoll, Dave O'Callaghan, T O'Donnell, P Butler, J Coughlan, D Wallace, C Sheridan, D Williams, I Keatley, S Deasy, S Zebo, L Mafi, S Tokula, L O'Dea, D Hurley, F Jones, S Scanlon, J Murphy.

I just weed a little.

After blowing the load, I assume, like the collective Munster fan base!!!


What is wrong with the ladyboys, are the painters in, there is a particular air of sensitive coming from their post today?
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soyhmf wrote: I frankly couldn't care less about TO'L, I was commenting on your stereotypical generalization that all Leinster fans are "d4 heads", and the even more inane assumption that this had something to do with people's perspective on the TO'L selection. So I responded with a little stereotyping of my own. You didn't like that too much, did you, you hairy shovel-handed turf-scented bumpkin?
Turf smells great in fairness.
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Apposite wrote:
It's funny the way this thing has worked out. Reddan and Ryan were the two most contentious omissions from the starting XV and now they have their starts through injury.
Too bad Ryans came at the expense of POC injury
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Apposite wrote:
soyhmf wrote: I frankly couldn't care less about TO'L, I was commenting on your stereotypical generalization that all Leinster fans are "d4 heads", and the even more inane assumption that this had something to do with people's perspective on the TO'L selection. So I responded with a little stereotyping of my own. You didn't like that too much, did you, you hairy shovel-handed turf-scented bumpkin?
Turf smells great in fairness.
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SASP wrote:
Apposite wrote:
It's funny the way this thing has worked out. Reddan and Ryan were the two most contentious omissions from the starting XV and now they have their starts through injury.
Too bad Ryans came at the expense of POC injury
I'd prefer to be seeing Ryan with POC obviously. And I am in no way happy at all to see either Murray or DOC injured.

I was just remarking on the coincidence. They are probably the two players most people felt were hardest done by and now they are both starting.
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MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:
Hellraiser wrote:
Wallace In Munster Squad

7 March 2012, 2:01 pm
By The Editor

David Wallace is included in the 27 strong Munster squad for the trip to Parma and RaboDirect PRO12 clash with Aironi

It's the first time Wallace has featured in a Munster squad this season having sustained a knee injury in the August international against England in Dublin.

Also included in the squad are Simon Zebo and Denis Hurley.

Both spent las week with the Ireland squad in Carton House, Hurley only released on the Friday morning. However, neither are required this week and will travel with the squad to Parma from Dublin Airport on Friday morning.

One notable absentee from the squad is Dave Foley who dislocated a shoulder on Saturday in Newport. He'll see a specialist on Monday to determine the exact extent of the injury.

Munster Squad: M Horan, W Du Preez, BJ Botha, J Ryan, D Fogarty, M Sherry, S Archer, B Holland, I Nagle, M O'Driscoll, Dave O'Callaghan, T O'Donnell, P Butler, J Coughlan, D Wallace, C Sheridan, D Williams, I Keatley, S Deasy, S Zebo, L Mafi, S Tokula, L O'Dea, D Hurley, F Jones, S Scanlon, J Murphy.

I just weed a little.

After blowing the load, I assume, like the collective Munster fan base!!!


What is wrong with the ladyboys, are the painters in, there is a particular air of sensitive coming from their post today?

i've given up arguing about Kidneys selections. he will only ever change the team when enforced or when he can get one of his fav's in.

im fed up with hoping for creativity in selection and based on form only to get annoyed when it doesnt happen

come on Ireland!

we could well finish 5th this year :blush:
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SASP wrote:
Apposite wrote:
soyhmf wrote: I frankly couldn't care less about TO'L, I was commenting on your stereotypical generalization that all Leinster fans are "d4 heads", and the even more inane assumption that this had something to do with people's perspective on the TO'L selection. So I responded with a little stereotyping of my own. You didn't like that too much, did you, you hairy shovel-handed turf-scented bumpkin?
Turf smells great in fairness.
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Apposite wrote:
SASP wrote:
Apposite wrote:
It's funny the way this thing has worked out. Reddan and Ryan were the two most contentious omissions from the starting XV and now they have their starts through injury.
Too bad Ryans came at the expense of POC injury
I'd prefer to be seeing Ryan with POC obviously. And I am in no way happy at all to see either Murray or DOC injured.

I was just remarking on the coincidence. They are probably the two players most people felt were hardest done by and now they are both starting.
I was agreeing with you.
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waguser wrote:
SASP wrote:
Apposite wrote:
soyhmf wrote: I frankly couldn't care less about TO'L, I was commenting on your stereotypical generalization that all Leinster fans are "d4 heads", and the even more inane assumption that this had something to do with people's perspective on the TO'L selection. So I responded with a little stereotyping of my own. You didn't like that too much, did you, you hairy shovel-handed turf-scented bumpkin?
Turf smells great in fairness.
+1
It smells great off a fire

but Turf BO is mingin

seriously.
Puts hair on yer chest ye big girls blouse.

;) ;)
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SASP wrote:
waguser wrote:
SASP wrote:
Apposite wrote:
soyhmf wrote: I frankly couldn't care less about TO'L, I was commenting on your stereotypical generalization that all Leinster fans are "d4 heads", and the even more inane assumption that this had something to do with people's perspective on the TO'L selection. So I responded with a little stereotyping of my own. You didn't like that too much, did you, you hairy shovel-handed turf-scented bumpkin?
Turf smells great in fairness.
+1
It smells great off a fire

but Turf BO is mingin

seriously.
Puts hair on yer chest ye big girls blouse.

;) ;)
Turf tea is a might famine brew

Turf socks are just taking the piss though...
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ZappaMan wrote:
CM11 wrote:We're going to get reamed in the lineout. We can't even just throw to 2 because they'll put Gray there and he'll win more than he loses. I reckon we will attempt to hit Heaslip more often than not with varying success. With no defensive lineout to speak of we can't really play too much of a tactical game either (although Ryan's done well from the bench in that regard). Here's hoping it's a dry enough day and Reddan has a good game.
Irish rugby is in a pretty dark place when we are relying on Eoin Reddan to have a good game.
And relying on "dry" weather...though trying to keep the ball in play is good tactics against the Scots, if we can manage it.

If Reddan can leave out the brainfart interceptions, and Sexton avoids one of his "yips" kicking days, then I think we'll be OK.
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anonymous_joe wrote:I'm a Leinster supporting D4 head. Who should I be angry with?
The poor.
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etherman wrote:
anonymous_joe wrote:I'm a Leinster supporting D4 head. Who should I be angry with?
The poor.
Better answer than HR's anyway.
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etherman wrote:
anonymous_joe wrote:I'm a Leinster supporting D4 head. Who should I be angry with?
The poor.
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NAMA has cost my family a fair whack alright.
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soyhmf wrote:
SASP wrote:
waguser wrote: It smells great off a fire

but Turf BO is mingin

seriously.
Puts hair on yer chest ye big girls blouse.

;) ;)
Turf tea is a might famine brew

Turf socks are just taking the piss though...
Wore them manys a time sir. Up here in the hills. Where men are men and sheep are nervous.
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SASP wrote:
waguser wrote:
SASP wrote:
Apposite wrote:
soyhmf wrote: I frankly couldn't care less about TO'L, I was commenting on your stereotypical generalization that all Leinster fans are "d4 heads", and the even more inane assumption that this had something to do with people's perspective on the TO'L selection. So I responded with a little stereotyping of my own. You didn't like that too much, did you, you hairy shovel-handed turf-scented bumpkin?
Turf smells great in fairness.
+1
It smells great off a fire

but Turf BO is mingin

seriously.
Puts hair on yer chest ye big girls blouse.

;) ;)
It also attracts those with hair on their chests.

I prefer my lady chests hairless as God INTENDED
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CambridgeFergal wrote:
ZappaMan wrote:
CM11 wrote:We're going to get reamed in the lineout. We can't even just throw to 2 because they'll put Gray there and he'll win more than he loses. I reckon we will attempt to hit Heaslip more often than not with varying success. With no defensive lineout to speak of we can't really play too much of a tactical game either (although Ryan's done well from the bench in that regard). Here's hoping it's a dry enough day and Reddan has a good game.
Irish rugby is in a pretty dark place when we are relying on Eoin Reddan to have a good game.
And relying on "dry" weather...though trying to keep the ball in play is good tactics against the Scots, if we can manage it.

If Reddan can leave out the brainfart interceptions, and Sexton avoids one of his "yips" kicking days, then I think we'll be OK.
Reddan's game has settled down to more normal formlines. Yes he can have average games but he doesn't go from the ridiculous to the sublime anymore. We have Schmidt to thank for that. While I did say I hope he has a good game I'm fairly confident he will.

Dry weather isn't a must but it'll help us execute the gameplan we need to execute more securely.

The only positive in terms of the lineout is that we weren't relying on it anyway as we weren't really launching much off the lineout. We're playing a containment game and relying on turnovers or one individual to give us decent go forward, mostly from kicks or kick returns, to launch attacks off. I can't think of much that we've created from our own 1st phase possession.
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LeinsterLion wrote:The first priority for Ferris is Ireland. End of. This isn't some warm up against a minnow side, it's the f**king six nations. You don't throw players in and out for the sake of it, you rotate from a position of strength with genuine options for valid reasons such as increasing depth and competition and progressing younger players.

And he's not being over played, it's five games in seven weeks.
No one is arguing where his first priority is. No one is claiming that we are playing a minnow. If Ferris does his knee against Scotland and misses a large chunk of the rest of the year what good is he to Ireland on the treatment table?

We have genuine options in the back row and the only way for young guys to get to test level is to play them at test level.

Same in the second and front rows.

Not protecting key players is why we have fudge all quality options to call upon in the centres.
I sort-of agree with you, up until this point. I agree with what the IRFU are doing the player-management policy. It is frustrating when we have Christmas Interpros played with B sides, or provinces losing valuable players for Rabo games, only to see them watching Ireland from the stands.

If injuries to two key players means Ireland are completely f**ked, its not because the players haven't been "protected", it is because Kidney hasn't "protected" himself against this eventuality by developing the squad properly.

Centre and lock are two perfect examples.

D'Arcy's form in the centres has been ropey for a couple of seasons. We have Paddy Wallace on a central contract, but Deccie doesn't like him, so he gets no gametime. We play D'Arcy in shit form instead of developing somebody like McFadden alongside BOD. Then BOD gets injured. Oh dear. D'Arcy is still shit, which makes it even harder to think who we could put outside him. All D'Arcy does is tidy up shit ball and make (most of) his tackles. McFadden could have been doing that for a season already, and by now he would have the experience to match his physical strength.

For a good while POC and DOC were the only real quality locks that we had. POC got injured and was a massive loss, but we still didn't learn from it. He came back and we paired him with DOC whenever possible and hoped that if anything happened Cullen or Micko would be available to try and step into O'Connell's place. DOC has always been a workrate player, a mad plum who will hit every ruck and tackle. He is a bit of a hero for it, and rightly so. Unfortunately, he is no longer physically able to produce that workrate at Test level. Nevertheless, he has another 3 Test starts to his name, that have taught him nothing. Ryan should be 60% of the way through his first Six Nations as DOC's replacement. Can anybody honestly argue that Ryan wouldn't have produced what DOC has produced in those 3 games? The value to Ryan's confidence would have been massive. Now he is making his starting debut in a lineout combination that got cleaned out in the last big game they played, partnered with a guy who is over the hill.

The transition in personnel and tactics since the Slam has been very poorly managed and that has affected results. A few poor results has led to conservative selection, its a vicious circle.
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Is there anything more boring then a Kidney Selection - maybe a Kidney post match interview.
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Luckycharmer wrote:Is there anything more boring then a Kidney Selection - maybe a Kidney post match interview.
His interviews are less predictable tbf.
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