The Official Irish Rugby Thread

CM11 · Post by **CM11** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:32 am

Lazy Couch potato wrote:
Banana Man wrote:
CM11 wrote:
redderneck wrote:
CM11 wrote:So, all 4 Irish sides all but guaranteed to be in the top tier next season.

Although part of me thinks it might actually have been to Munster's benefit, on the pitch if not off the pitch, to have been in the 2nd tier. Would have been a competition they could have gotten their teeth into and possibly win as opposed to being likely bit part players as they rebuild next season.
Couldn't disagree wit you more on that CM11.

This is not a Munster side within an ass's roar of being in with a shout of winning ANY competition right now. Based on that, we are better to be fighting to keep our heads above water in the big one.
Maybe. But I don't think you're in as bad a place as you're making out. It's not exactly tweaking you need but there's still plenty of decent players for Erasmus to work with. POM returning will be massive.
I think you are being too generous-

Our attack play is non existent bar some screen passes to players who are too deep - and are easily read.

Our tries all season have nearly exclusively been from individual brilliance rather than going through the phases

Defence is a joke

Set piece.... I like Scannell but cannot wait to see Casey back. Sherry's shoulder injury has ruined him as a player

There is of course talent there but just need massive amounts of direction - our skill set is sub par to say the least
Tough match on the blood pressure alright last night. Can't say how it looked on telly but up close we were significantly second best up front all night esp front 5. Backs played well behind that pack. Cronin and Ryan did well when they came on but our locks and th particularly were beaten all ends up. Getting Ryan back, kidnapping dillane home and praying madigan stays fit and develops on his promise may sort the lock area but scrum parity not to mind dominance is a pipe dream with archer. Casey will be a big addition next year. I think nscannel will make it but needs to put on a bit of bulk.

Thought our defence was desperately poor and woefully poor line speed. Gave up big yards again and again.
Rscannell was excellent again....his highly paid all black colleague was average. Very impressed with Holland. That lad has balls. Jj you greedy impatient gobshite!

I wasn't surprised the second half turned out as poorly as did. Effectively a relegation game and huge nerves all round. Just glad we got there. Fresh start.

One thing that was very obvious and commented on by a couple of lads beside me in the terrace was how poor munsters handling was in the warm up. Christ doc2 must have dropped about 4 balls alone. Rassie will have to start some serious skills work. These things should be basics

Scrum was very poor prior to the replacements but other than that I didn't think Edinburgh particularly won much up front and Munster definitely won the breakdown, hands down.

Munster the better side, by a fair bit, in the first half and the final quarter (well, final 10). Very much deserved to win and bonus didn't flatter.

Incidentally, the stats show only 4 missed tackles from Munster. I'd take that with a pinch of salt but all the same....

Diego · Post by **Diego** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:33 am

Porterbelly1 wrote:Peter Fitzgibbon, you had one job

He was fine. Rodney Ah You on the other hand was shameful. How a pro can be that lazy and unfit I don't know. He was also part of a scrum that lost you the match.

Diego · Post by **Diego** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:37 am

I see Glasgow put 70 on Zebre last night, not a great look for the league really.

Porterbelly1 · Post by **Porterbelly1** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:39 am

Diego wrote:
Porterbelly1 wrote:Peter Fitzgibbon, you had one job
He was fine. Rodney Ah You on the other hand was shameful. How a pro can be that lazy and unfit I don't know. He was also part of a scrum that lost you the match.

I said it in jest

Rodney wasn't on the pitch at the time?

It doesn't change anything. A 1 point win next week will get us a home semi

Lazy Couch potato · Post by **Lazy Couch potato** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:39 am

Probably just the nerves cm but I never felt in control up front. That said Edinburgh were bashing away for 30 mins in second half and I only feared the ref would whistle us off the part. We really got on the wrong side of him. Typical of a poor team. Hard to be impartial when a game is slipping away in the second half....having said that felt we got the tub of the green in the first half.

I think a big monster lock like hopefully madigan and good direction from Pom next year and things will be brighter v

Diego · Post by **Diego** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:40 am

Porterbelly1 wrote:
Diego wrote:
Porterbelly1 wrote:Peter Fitzgibbon, you had one job
He was fine. Rodney Ah You on the other hand was shameful. How a pro can be that lazy and unfit I don't know. He was also part of a scrum that lost you the match.
I said it in jest

Rodney wasn't on the pitch at the time?

It doesn't change anything. A 1 point win next week will get us a home semi

I meant over the course of the 80. The scrum was battered all game.

Lazy Couch potato · Post by **Lazy Couch potato** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:41 am

Diego wrote:I see Glasgow put 70 on Zebre last night, not a great look for the league really.

To me anyway Glasgow, with a full compliment of players are a country mile ahead of everything else in the pro12. Leinster perhaps on paper but it's been a long time since I've seen it

CM11 · Post by **CM11** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:43 am

Lazy Couch potato wrote:Probably just the nerves cm but I never felt in control up front. That said Edinburgh were bashing away for 30 mins in second half and I only feared the ref would whistle us off the part. We really got on the wrong side of him. Typical of a poor team. Hard to be impartial when a game is slipping away in the second half....having said that felt we got the tub of the green in the first half.

I think a big monster lock like hopefully madigan and good direction from Pom next year and things will be brighter v

Don't get me wrong, you didn't dominate up front either and it was a game you could easily have lost due to the scrum issues but all Edinburgh had was the scrum. They scored one flukey try and just chipped away with penalties either won directly or indirectly from the scrum problems.

A poor second half all round, which was a shame as the first half was entertaining.

CM11 · Post by **CM11** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:45 am

Lazy Couch potato wrote:
Diego wrote:I see Glasgow put 70 on Zebre last night, not a great look for the league really.
To me anyway Glasgow, with a full compliment of players are a country mile ahead of everything else in the pro12. Leinster perhaps on paper but it's been a long time since I've seen it

Pfft, we put 8 tries on Zebre with our seconds. And didn't concede.

Seriously though, Glasgow have only recently started firing on all cylinders but if they play to their form from last season then yeah, they're ahead of everyone else.

Lazy Couch potato · Post by **Lazy Couch potato** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:51 am

The biggest thing the weegies have is their pack. They can really evicerate a team. They're a hard nasty bunch and I mean that as a compliment

Porterbelly1 · Post by **Porterbelly1** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:52 am

It's a shame Glasgow always seem to falter in Europe

Nakarawa will be a big loss

Floppykid · Post by **Floppykid** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:30 pm

Uncle Fester wrote:
Floppykid wrote:
Uncle Fester wrote:
Floppykid wrote:The Saffas are going f**k mad.
Whatever about the trolling but the running back here looking for validation is so so needy.
Forum is serious business aye?
It's your neediness we're talking about so yes, that bit is serious.

You mean you and Sewa?

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:22 pm

Lazy Couch potato wrote:The biggest thing the weegies have is their pack. They can really evicerate a team. They're a hard nasty bunch and I mean that as a compliment

They might have left it too late but their recent form is very very good.

camroc1 · Post by **camroc1** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:28 pm

Where Edinburgh lost/Munster won the match was at the rucks. Edinburgh persisted in putting one man in on their own ball, and Munster just blasted them off it winning turnovers they weren't going to get any other way.

Brumby_in_Vic · Post by **Brumby_in_Vic** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:37 pm

That match further highlighted Munster's frailties, Scarlets have the players and playing style to exploit that. They're very good on the deck and keeping the ball alive in attack. Edinburgh were just too limited to take advantage.

Fitzgibbon had a shocker with that second Treviso try. The pass was forward and looked like there was a foot in touch.

epaddy · Post by **epaddy** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:59 pm

fudge all crowd in Nice for Toulon v Toulouse. Maybe the arse is falling out of pro rugby across Europe, though its not a bad game so far.

unseenwork · Post by **unseenwork** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:04 pm

Gilroy out with a virus, Scholes in.

epaddy · Post by **epaddy** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:05 pm

unseenwork wrote:Gilroy out with a virus, Scholes in.

Bowe not back yet?

danthefan · Post by **danthefan** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:05 pm

Couldn't be arsed looking at the table, are Munster set to make the Spiv cup now?

unseenwork · Post by **unseenwork** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:05 pm

Diego wrote:
Porterbelly1 wrote:Peter Fitzgibbon, you had one job
He was fine. Rodney Ah You on the other hand was shameful. How a pro can be that lazy and unfit I don't know. He was also part of a scrum that lost you the match.

Really looking forward to seeing him tog out for Ulster A next year!

unseenwork · Post by **unseenwork** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:07 pm

epaddy wrote:
unseenwork wrote:Gilroy out with a virus, Scholes in.
Bowe not back yet?

Nope, knee flared up.

El Homerino · Post by **El Homerino** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:09 pm

unseenwork wrote:Gilroy out with a virus, Scholes in.

Feck sake

epaddy · Post by **epaddy** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:09 pm

unseenwork wrote:
epaddy wrote:
unseenwork wrote:Gilroy out with a virus, Scholes in.
Bowe not back yet?
Nope, knee flared up.

hmm, hope he gets a decent run soon. Lot of injuries over the last couple of years.

earl the beaver · Post by **earl the beaver** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:12 pm

unseenwork wrote:Gilroy out with a virus, Scholes in.

Oh ffs.

Diego · Post by **Diego** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:13 pm

earl the beaver wrote:
unseenwork wrote:Gilroy out with a virus, Scholes in.
Oh ffs.

Pity. I was looking forward to his battle with established Irish international Dave Kearney.

Yer Man · Post by **Yer Man** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:15 pm

earl the beaver wrote:
unseenwork wrote:Gilroy out with a virus, Scholes in.
Oh ffs.

I think we can cover that position

unseenwork · Post by **unseenwork** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:17 pm

El Homerino wrote:
unseenwork wrote:Gilroy out with a virus, Scholes in.
Feck sake

Bah Scholes will do us well and remind us painfully of what we're going to be missing out on for the next two years.

Yer Man · Post by **Yer Man** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:18 pm

Diego wrote:I see Glasgow put 70 on Zebre last night, not a great look for the league really.

Outside of Italy - Zebre results in the Pro 12 in 2016

0 - 52 @ Leinster
0 - 32 @ Ulster
0 - 47 @ Munster
0 - 29 @ Embra
10 - 70 @ Glasgow

You could argue that last night was an improvement...

El Homerino · Post by **El Homerino** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:18 pm

unseenwork wrote:
El Homerino wrote:
unseenwork wrote:Gilroy out with a virus, Scholes in.
Feck sake
Bah Scholes willdo us well and remind us painfully of what we're going to be missing out on for the next two years.

I'm not mad about Scholes, he blows really hot and cold.

Yer Man · Post by **Yer Man** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:19 pm

camroc1 wrote:Where Edinburgh lost/Munster won the match was at the rucks. Edinburgh persisted in putting one man in on their own ball, and Munster just blasted them off it winning turnovers they weren't going to get any other way.

Munster won so much ball by counter-rucking.
Beggars belief that Embra didn't address it 2nd half.

unseenwork · Post by **unseenwork** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:21 pm

El Homerino wrote:
unseenwork wrote:
El Homerino wrote:
unseenwork wrote:Gilroy out with a virus, Scholes in.
Feck sake
Bah Scholes will do us well and remind us painfully of what we're going to be missing out on for the next two years.
I'm not mad about Scholes, he blows really hot and cold.

In the early days, now I think his game is a lot more consistent, not the finished article but I do think he is going to be top notch one of these days.

Conn · Post by **Conn** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:21 pm

Conn wrote:Dear Ulster,

I think you're all sound

Sincerely, your pal
Conn

Dead sound, a lovely bunch of lads

unseenwork · Post by **unseenwork** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:25 pm

Conn wrote:
Conn wrote:Dear Ulster,

I think you're all sound

Sincerely, your pal
Conn

Dead sound, a lovely bunch of lads

Glad someone appreciates us...

Floppykid · Post by **Floppykid** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:33 pm

unseenwork wrote:
El Homerino wrote:
unseenwork wrote:Gilroy out with a virus, Scholes in.
Feck sake
Bah Scholes will do us well and remind us painfully of what we're going to be missing out on for the next two years.

He'll add some much needed pace to that wing.

unseenwork · Post by **unseenwork** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:34 pm

Floppykid wrote:
unseenwork wrote:
El Homerino wrote:
unseenwork wrote:Gilroy out with a virus, Scholes in.
Feck sake
Bah Scholes will do us well and remind us painfully of what we're going to be missing out on for the next two years.
He'll add some much needed pace to that wing.

Stones and glass houses.

El Homerino · Post by **El Homerino** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:42 pm

Floppykid wrote:
unseenwork wrote:
El Homerino wrote:
unseenwork wrote:Gilroy out with a virus, Scholes in.
Feck sake
Bah Scholes will do us well and remind us painfully of what we're going to be missing out on for the next two years.
He'll add some much needed pace to that wing.

Gilroy is faster than him?

Mr. Very Popular · Post by **Mr. Very Popular** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:03 pm

danthefan wrote:Couldn't be arsed looking at the table, are Munster set to make the Spiv cup now?

In our own hands,a win next week should do us no matter what happens

shanec40 · Post by **shanec40** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:08 pm

Just seen stringer has won player of the season with sale you wonder if he would help develop young scrum halves at Leinster or connacht

hermie · Post by **hermie** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:38 pm

Anyone with a better feed, this one is terrible?
http://crickfree.net/rugby/ulster-vs-le ... 1833930244

Despot · Post by **Despot** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:39 pm

shanec40 wrote:Just seen stringer has won player of the season with sale you wonder if he would help develop young scrum halves at Leinster or connacht

Maybe when he's finished playing in 2026!