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21 - 3 to Clontarf just on half time.
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cfm93 wrote:
camroc1 wrote:Joey Carberry by far the best player on the pitch in the 'tarf - Con final. I assume he is being groomed as Sextons eventual successor.

Sore 14 - 3 to Clontarf after 38 mins.
Himself and Bryne are two quality prospects.
Thought Byrne might have seen some more gametime ahead of Marsh this season but he didn't manage it. Now think Carbery might be the better prospect.
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hermie wrote:
cfm93 wrote:
camroc1 wrote:Joey Carberry by far the best player on the pitch in the 'tarf - Con final. I assume he is being groomed as Sextons eventual successor.

Sore 14 - 3 to Clontarf after 38 mins.
Himself and Bryne are two quality prospects.
Thought Byrne might have seen some more gametime ahead of Marsh this season but he didn't manage it. Now think Carbery might be the better prospect.
Byrne was injured for a while
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hermie wrote:Carbury looking savage here again for Tarf
Big step up to doing it at pro level. Even in the B&I Cup
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Brumby_in_Vic wrote:
hermie wrote:
cfm93 wrote:
camroc1 wrote:Joey Carberry by far the best player on the pitch in the 'tarf - Con final. I assume he is being groomed as Sextons eventual successor.

Sore 14 - 3 to Clontarf after 38 mins.
Himself and Bryne are two quality prospects.
Thought Byrne might have seen some more gametime ahead of Marsh this season but he didn't manage it. Now think Carbery might be the better prospect.
Byrne was injured for a while
Carbery was by far the more skilled player in the semi v UCD.
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How old is Carbery?

Edit - Leinster site says 20. He's from NZ too apparently, sickening poaching.
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hermie wrote:
cfm93 wrote:
camroc1 wrote:Joey Carberry by far the best player on the pitch in the 'tarf - Con final. I assume he is being groomed as Sextons eventual successor.

Sore 14 - 3 to Clontarf after 38 mins.
Himself and Bryne are two quality prospects.
Thought Byrne might have seen some more gametime ahead of Marsh this season but he didn't manage it. Now think Carbery might be the better prospect.
He played a fair bit during the RWC and then got injured for a while, it will be interesting to see how Leinster manage the 2 next season.
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Tony Ryan's leaving Leinster at the end of the season huh? I wonder whether Ulster might try a Butterworth with him and take a punt, or maybe they've learnt their lesson from him and Clive Ross.
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cfm93 wrote:
hermie wrote:
cfm93 wrote:
camroc1 wrote:Joey Carberry by far the best player on the pitch in the 'tarf - Con final. I assume he is being groomed as Sextons eventual successor.

Sore 14 - 3 to Clontarf after 38 mins.
Himself and Bryne are two quality prospects.
Thought Byrne might have seen some more gametime ahead of Marsh this season but he didn't manage it. Now think Carbery might be the better prospect.
He played a fair bit during the RWC and then got injured for a while, it will be interesting to see how Leinster manage the 2 next season.
A fair bit is a stretch but he did get injured at the wrong time.

Thought he grew into the game well after a poor opening quarter in his only start.
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camroc1 wrote:Anyone else find it somewhat ironic that it is the Welsh, who broke ranks, that are suffering the consequences of the Spivs anti-Irish coup with only one team in next years NTHCSBH, whereas we have all 4 provinces in.
Qualifying was needed for the league tbf. It was how they were used so easily by the spivs that was baffling, we need them to come good again though.

Italians need to be ditched also. Add nothing to the league and diluted any chance of a Celtic identity/rivalry forming.
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Senior Rugby sure is a young man's game these days.
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cfm93 wrote:
hermie wrote:
cfm93 wrote:
camroc1 wrote:Joey Carberry by far the best player on the pitch in the 'tarf - Con final. I assume he is being groomed as Sextons eventual successor.

Sore 14 - 3 to Clontarf after 38 mins.
Himself and Bryne are two quality prospects.
Thought Byrne might have seen some more gametime ahead of Marsh this season but he didn't manage it. Now think Carbery might be the better prospect.
He played a fair bit during the RWC and then got injured for a while, it will be interesting to see how Leinster manage the 2 next season.
Carbery might be a bit more of a front-foot 10 than Byrne would that be fair to say? Byrne's game management (to roll out all the clichés) is pretty solid. Nice options to have. I've seen Marsh play some great games for the As but he hasn't kicked on hugely. Be an interesting one.
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What's Carbery's passing like? Byrne's is very sweet, easily his best skill.
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Your boy Quinlan'd be worth taking into the Ulster academy as well if he's out of the picture at Munster, McPhillips is a bit hot and cold.
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unseenwork wrote:Senior Rugby sure is a young man's game these days.
Yeah it's really noticeable at semi-pro level. The youngsters are almost training like professionals while the older lads are juggling careers.

Tough turnaround for Con after playing a final last week.
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I see McGrath is playing on the wing for Tarf, he was wandering around at the Leinster game yesterday. Has gotten even more hipster it seems.

Edit - and he's in, some lovely rugby there tbf, everyone offloading.
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CM11 wrote:What's Carbery's passing like? Byrne's is very sweet, easily his best skill.
Lovely. Crisp and varied.

Great game this. Offloads all the place.
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hermie wrote:
CM11 wrote:What's Carbery's passing like? Byrne's is very sweet, easily his best skill.
Lovely. Crisp and varied.

Great game this. Offloads all the place.
Some of the defence is iffy. That last Con try, he was just waved through.
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Highlights up.

Some nice tries in there. Earls and Trimble showing good pace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkutEwNxh3I
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Great score from Con there. Mick McGrath acting a bit of a prick on Sweetnam.
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But for a missed knock on that would be Con's trophy, very entertaining match.
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Well done, Tarf. Carberry was the difference alright.

Great spirit from Con :thumbup:
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Well done Tarf. Both teams playing good rugby.
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Carbery was a class apart, something you'd expect from pros at this level, but doesn't always show. Mick McGrath again showed why he's great in the AIL but not up to pro rugby. He has no skills or awareness to enable him to do anything bar run over people. That won't cut it against people the same size as him.

Bryan Byrne was decent around the park, but janey mack, his lineout throwing was pants. Looks a real worry for him.
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Boxcar Ira wrote:
unseenwork wrote:Senior Rugby sure is a young man's game these days.
Yeah it's really noticeable at semi-pro level. The youngsters are almost training like professionals while the older lads are juggling careers.

Tough turnaround for Con after playing a final last week.
Is that not the case at most levels now?

Given the sort of hours demanded from most professions these days there's a fairly clear shortage of people who can dedicate themselves to the sport. It's going to end up like Gah with only students and teachers playing.
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Anyone know when Joe names his squad for SA. Only a month or so till the first test
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Will be able to get Clon v Con tomorrow on rte player?
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DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:Anyone know when Joe names his squad for SA. Only a month or so till the first test
Eddie Jones has already named his hasn't he? Can't imagine it would be before the semi finals though.
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hermie wrote:
DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:Anyone know when Joe names his squad for SA. Only a month or so till the first test
Eddie Jones has already named his hasn't he? Can't imagine it would be before the semi finals though.
Hes named a training squad for players not involved in European finals and premiership play offs, not the actual squad.
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earl the beaver wrote:
hermie wrote:
DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:Anyone know when Joe names his squad for SA. Only a month or so till the first test
Eddie Jones has already named his hasn't he? Can't imagine it would be before the semi finals though.
Hes named a training squad for players not involved in European finals and premiership play offs, not the actual squad.
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Are we expecting any new faces?

I'd like to see a few players rested, and some just dropped altogether.
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Pro 12 Team of the Year

1: Denis Buckley
2: Tom McCartney
3: Finlay Belham
4: Leone Nakawara
5: Ultan Dillane
6: CJ Stander
7: Josh Van Den Flier
8: Cornell Du Preez
9: Kieran Marmion
10: Sam Davies
11: Craig Gilroy
12: Ben Teo
13: Budee Aki
14: Matt Healy
15: Isa Nacewa (capt)
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Lam gets coach of the year.

Muldoon gets chairmans award.

Aki gets Player of the Year.
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All those Connacht lads... Who won't be going to SA next month
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Leinsterman wrote:All those Connacht lads... Who won't be going to SA next month
I only see one who won't could but won't travel: Healy. All the others either will go (Dillane, Marmion, Bealham) are injured (Buckley) or are ineligible (Aki, McCartney).
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Clearing the decks tomorro to watch both games again


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Banana Man wrote:Pro 12 Team of the Year

1: Denis Buckley
2: Tom McCartney
3: Finlay Belham
4: Leone Nakawara
5: Ultan Dillane
6: CJ Stander
7: Josh Van Den Flier
8: Cornell Du Preez
9: Kieran Marmion
10: Sam Davies
11: Craig Gilroy
12: Ben Teo
13: Budee Aki
14: Matt Healy
15: Isa Nacewa (capt)
Need to keep the Welsh happy I suppose.
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Banana Man wrote:Pro 12 Team of the Year

1: Denis Buckley
2: Tom McCartney
3: Finlay Belham
4: Leone Nakawara
5: Ultan Dillane
6: CJ Stander
7: Josh Van Den Flier
8: Cornell Du Preez
9: Kieran Marmion
10: Sam Davies
11: Craig Gilroy
12: Ben Teo
13: Budee Aki
14: Matt Healy
15: Isa Nacewa (capt)
I haven't watched much of anyone else bar Leinster this year, but has there not been a better 15 than Nacewa? For me he has been dreadful in most games and reasonable against poorer sides. No pace whatsoever, far too quick to put the ball to boot for the dink ahead(as are most Irish players) and slips of tackles too frequently. I see he wasn't listed as a departure for Leinster, which really is a bit worrying.

Edit: reading that back I could be describing any of Leinsters regular back 3.
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Teo ahead of McCloskey or Marshall? :?
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epaddy wrote:
Banana Man wrote:Pro 12 Team of the Year

1: Denis Buckley
2: Tom McCartney
3: Finlay Belham
4: Leone Nakawara
5: Ultan Dillane
6: CJ Stander
7: Josh Van Den Flier
8: Cornell Du Preez
9: Kieran Marmion
10: Sam Davies
11: Craig Gilroy
12: Ben Teo
13: Budee Aki
14: Matt Healy
15: Isa Nacewa (capt)
I haven't watched much of anyone else bar Leinster this year, but has there not been a better 15 than Nacewa? For me he has been dreadful in most games and reasonable against poorer sides. No pace whatsoever, far too quick to put the ball to boot for the dink ahead(as are most Irish players) and slips of tackles too frequently. I see he wasn't listed as a departure for Leinster, which really is a bit worrying.

Edit: reading that back I could be describing any of Leinsters regular back 3.
It'd be a bit harsh to sack Nacewa. He hasn't been that bad.

But no, he's been a lot better than you describe.
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