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Adetroy wrote:The Oracle, Neil Francis, described the bench as weak. Frankly, is it just me or is he f**king clueless. I think it is a terrific bench.
It's definitely a lot weaker given the injuries and the decision to omit Cronin. Still got some cracking options though in Killer, Beirne and Conan.
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The Oracle, Neil Francis, described the bench as weak. Frankly, is it just me or is he f**king clueless. I think it is a terrific bench.
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Forwards replacements are very good, excellent even. Especially considering the approach that the team is likely to take in the game. There'll be no letup from the physicality.
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Flametop wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Floppykid wrote:Larmour is small, which is my worry for him as a 15.
He is small, but then we have become so used to excellence in the air from 15 over the last decade plus that we don't realise how well we have been served. We have had Kearney since 2006 winning 92 caps and he was preceded by the Prince of full backs Girvan Dempsey who won 82 caps in his 10 year international career. Other players drifted in and out over that 20 plus year period but they were the big 2. I can't think of any other country who have been as well served at 15 as we have.
Meanwhile other teams counterattack.
I always picked the solid lad ahead of the flash lad at 15. You always want the lad who makes least mistakes and covers the best. That's why I regard Girve as the best full back we ever had. His 19 tries were an added bonus.
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An injury to wing ,9 or 10 and things get a bit hairy.
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Nolanator wrote:Forwards replacements are very good, excellent even. Especially considering the approach that the team is likely to take in the game. There'll be no letup from the physicality.
Beirne will be a step down from Ryan or Hendo from a physical perspective but it wouldn't surprise me if both of them played 80 with Beirne coming on for POM.

Kilcoyne is the standout from an impact perspective. Everyone else will do better holding onto a lead rather than chasing the game.
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Flametop wrote:An injury to wing ,9 or 10 and things get a bit hairy.
All three would be terrible, yes. One would be fine as would 2 if one was wing.
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CM11 wrote:
Nolanator wrote:Forwards replacements are very good, excellent even. Especially considering the approach that the team is likely to take in the game. There'll be no letup from the physicality.
Beirne will be a step down from Ryan or Hendo from a physical perspective but it wouldn't surprise me if both of them played 80 with Beirne coming on for POM.

Kilcoyne is the standout from an impact perspective. Everyone else will do better holding onto a lead rather than chasing the game.
I'd bet on beirne coming on in the backrow. At least to start with. Maybe Conan comes on for Hendie and Beirne and CJ move up one. Keeps the beef on the field.
Cronin would be better for pure impact, but presumably they're worried about setpiece consistency.
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Duff Paddy wrote:Lads if what jake posted on the howley thread are true it’s f**king going to go nuclear - and imagine it’s unlikely to be confined to just Wales
I’d like to think Joe and the lads aren’t as thick as those Welsh/Kiwi/English spackers
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CM11 wrote:
Flametop wrote:An injury to wing ,9 or 10 and things get a bit hairy.
All three would be terrible, yes. One would be fine as would 2 if one was wing.
You’d be happy with Ringrose shifting to wing then?
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CM11 wrote:
Nolanator wrote:Forwards replacements are very good, excellent even. Especially considering the approach that the team is likely to take in the game. There'll be no letup from the physicality.
Beirne will be a step down from Ryan or Hendo from a physical perspective but it wouldn't surprise me if both of them played 80 with Beirne coming on for POM.

Kilcoyne is the standout from an impact perspective. Everyone else will do better holding onto a lead rather than chasing the game.
McGrath is very good if you do want to just hold onto a lead it's got to be said, that daft box kick against Sarries notwithstanding.

Think more against the All Blacks where he came on and took all the tempo out of the game. That and being a great defender.
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Jim Lahey wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:Lads if what jake posted on the howley thread are true it’s f**king going to go nuclear - and imagine it’s unlikely to be confined to just Wales
I’d like to think Joe and the lads aren’t as thick as those Welsh/Kiwi/English spackers
Just to save anyone having to go look:
1. Gatland and Edwards also involved, partic latter.
2. Money laundering via RH's resturant (Cafe 55 in Brigend- he transferred share holdings a few days ago)
3. Bet on Rhys Webb NOT to go to RWC.
4. Julie Paterson, Team PA has gone 'missing' and is believed to be doing some form of internal investigation pending arrival of Martyn Phillips
5. McBryde not implicated.
6. They would bet on the type of first score then engineer moves to make that happen (not sure how)
7. They bet 6K on England to win at Twickers in warm ups
Note McBryde not involved, only the right sort for Leinster.

If they bet on Rhys Webb to not go to the RWC and then in fact didn't select him for the RWC that has to be a crime of some sort surely. I find that hard to believe.
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I dunno, Jake has contacts and works for this website as a journo, he was risking a lot posting that and it definitely didn't come from nowhere.
We'll see I guess but I at least believe there's more to it that just one stupid bet from a gambling addict.
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Well fúck me.
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Where’s the original Howley thread which has some hints in it from the points he raised? If it came out of the blue I wouldnt buy it, but given what else has come on it’s maybe slightly more believable
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I knew that twickenham result was dodgy as fudge
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Flametop wrote:
CM11 wrote:
Flametop wrote:An injury to wing ,9 or 10 and things get a bit hairy.
All three would be terrible, yes. One would be fine as would 2 if one was wing.
You’d be happy with Ringrose shifting to wing then?
I'd prefer it didn't have to happen but yes, I think we could survive.
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Ulsters Red Hand wrote:Where’s the original Howley thread which has some hints in it from the points he raised? If it came out of the blue I wouldnt buy it, but given what else has come on it’s maybe slightly more believable
Maybe Jake is playing a prank on all of us, it'd be a dumb prank to play though given his career.
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There is no bookie taking a stake large enough on the Rhys Webb thing to make it worthwhile.
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TheBouncer wrote:There is no bookie taking a stake large enough on the Rhys Webb thing to make it worthwhile.
I mean he hasn’t played in a couple of years.
Would be like Joe placing a bet on Ferg not being in the squad.
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TheBouncer wrote:There is no bookie taking a stake large enough on the Rhys Webb thing to make it worthwhile.
Do you believe anything Jake said?
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Jim Lahey wrote:
TheBouncer wrote:There is no bookie taking a stake large enough on the Rhys Webb thing to make it worthwhile.
I mean he hasn’t played in a couple of years.
Would be like Joe placing a bet on Ferg not being in the squad.
Dave would have been worth a punt.
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I read that about Webb as a suggestion from Jake. I’d, “you can bet Rhys Webb won’t be going...” with the implication that Webb was somehow involved.

I may have been completely wrong, though.

I’m sure there are ways around these things, but I would think in this day and age that no bookie would even take the bets from someone they suspected was on the inside. Especially when it relates to things like a 2nd minute drop goal, or who will be the 28th name in the RWC squad etc.
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Flametop wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:
TheBouncer wrote:There is no bookie taking a stake large enough on the Rhys Webb thing to make it worthwhile.
I mean he hasn’t played in a couple of years.
Would be like Joe placing a bet on Ferg not being in the squad.
Dave would have been worth a punt.
He’d have probably dropped it though
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TheBouncer wrote:There is no bookie taking a stake large enough on the Rhys Webb thing to make it worthwhile.
They wouldn’t be placing large bets unless they were completely stupid - or if the Chinese were involved
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Jim Lahey wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:Lads if what jake posted on the howley thread are true it’s f**king going to go nuclear - and imagine it’s unlikely to be confined to just Wales
I’d like to think Joe and the lads aren’t as thick as those Welsh/Kiwi/English spackers
Gonna enjoy Kid A calling is a corrupt union. It’s the new welsh tv money.
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Duff Paddy wrote:
TheBouncer wrote:There is no bookie taking a stake large enough on the Rhys Webb thing to make it worthwhile.
They wouldn’t be placing large bets unless they were completely stupid - or if the Chinese were involved
Either way, this is a lot of fun.
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Plato'sCave wrote:I knew that twickenham result was dodgy as fudge
Yeah, there's no way we should be giving up 50+ points against anyone
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Henshaw out if WC? Hearing a torn hamstring...really hope it's bullshit.
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shabadoo wrote:Henshaw out if WC?
Where'd ya hear that?
Gutting for him if true, his injury record is getting concerning tbh.
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Fück that noise if true.

Was the game this morning showing on ITV? Or was it region blocked does anyone know.
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Floppykid wrote:
shabadoo wrote:Henshaw out if WC?
Where'd ya hear that?
Gutting for him if true, his injury record is getting concerning tbh.
Don't tell anyone - but i'm Andy Farrell.
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RTE coverage shyte so far. Why is claire macnamara involoved. She is as bland as fudge. And of course get the token female analyst on there.
I like jackman but hard to not concentrate on the arse growing on his chin.
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shabadoo wrote:Henshaw out if WC? Hearing a torn hamstring...really hope it's bullshit.
Yep, but given his injury profile, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to hear that his injury is worse than initially indicated, or that he is simply failing to recover as expected.
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Flametop wrote:Australia and Folau.

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He said 20 years genius

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Plato'sCave wrote:I knew that twickenham result was dodgy as fudge
What about ours?

Or were we really that shite
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Yer Man wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:I knew that twickenham result was dodgy as fudge
What about ours?

Or were we really that shite
Given we were literally standing off tackles that's the most suspicious result of all if we're looking for an epidemic alright!
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How do you guys think the backrow will go?
Stander going to be mired down in donkey work?
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Floppykid wrote:How do you guys think the backrow will go?
Stander going to be mired down in donkey work?
Hopefully POM makes at least one tackle
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He seemed at least a bit more energised against Wales.
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