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YOYO wrote:
Big D wrote:Yearly outing to your thread lads. Well done on your win and good luck for the rest of the tournament.
You guys had it for the taking. I’m very relieved. Hard luck. Hogg should know better by now. Finn Russell could also have been an Ace for you had he played.
Same old issues. Lack of composure and no red zone game plan costly.
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So Herring did well. As did Doris, for all of his 4 minutes. Stander did well, Larmour looked solid at fullback and Ringrose showed his form in the first half.

Healy was struggling. Hendo was quiet. Murray was slow.


Killer and Doris will be out for next week, Ringrose possibly. Cooney surely has to start next week?!
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Boxcar Ira wrote:So Healy, Henderson, Murray, POM and Aki have to go. Easy enough fix. Just needs some balls.

Delighted for CJ. Played to his strengths today
I thought POM played well. Only Stander played up to scratch in the pack. Perhaps Healy and Murray should be given a rest for the next game.
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TheBouncer wrote:The old calling cards just are not there anymore. The team ran on set-piece, kick-chase and great half-back play.

Such is life, a new era, we all just need to accept we're probably not contending right now.
When this team were at their best they overpowered the opposition up front and made very few errors.

The pack is definitely creaking now, losing collisions and under pressure at the set piece.
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IBWT wrote:
TheBouncer wrote:The old calling cards just are not there anymore. The team ran on set-piece, kick-chase and great half-back play.

Such is life, a new era, we all just need to accept we're probably not contending right now.
When this team were at their best they overpowered the opposition up front and made very few errors.

The pack is definitely creaking now, losing collisions and under pressure at the set piece.
The backrow of SOB, Heaslip and POM all in their prime was different level. Throw in POC too. Just need for the new young brigade to establish themselves.
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Good to hear Faz say decision making was up and down. Being positive about the team without saying they played well.

And BOD in a veiled way questioning Murray, hinting Cooney should start.
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Right that's done and dusted, changes for next week, if everyone is available

Kilcoyne
Toner.
Cooney
Henshaw.
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Mr. Very Popular wrote:Right that's done and dusted, changes for next week, if everyone is available

Kilcoyne
Toner.
Cooney
Henshaw.
After that horror show, I rather fancy my chances of a call-up meself 👍
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YOYO wrote:
Boxcar Ira wrote:So Healy, Henderson, Murray, POM and Aki have to go. Easy enough fix. Just needs some balls.

Delighted for CJ. Played to his strengths today
I thought POM played well. Only Stander played up to scratch in the pack. Perhaps Healy and Murray should be given a rest for the next game.
Played alright. Had some big steals and slowed ball down but was largely lacking in impact. Similar to VDF. One will have to drop out
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Boxcar Ira wrote:
YOYO wrote:
Boxcar Ira wrote:So Healy, Henderson, Murray, POM and Aki have to go. Easy enough fix. Just needs some balls.

Delighted for CJ. Played to his strengths today
I thought POM played well. Only Stander played up to scratch in the pack. Perhaps Healy and Murray should be given a rest for the next game.
Played alright. Had some big steals and slowed ball down but was largely lacking in impact. Similar to VDF. One will have to drop out
I agree he’s lacking in other departments. He and VDF are too lightweight as a 6 & 7. I guess if Doris hadn’t got injured we might have played differently.
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You'd have to think Stander, Leavy, Doris would be our best back row, assuming all available and playing well.

I fear that's still not a top tier BR, however.
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Conan was in savage form pre injury so would be in the mix. Doris probably gives better balance though
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ZappaMan wrote:
Mr. Very Popular wrote:Right that's done and dusted, changes for next week, if everyone is available

Kilcoyne
Toner.
Cooney
Henshaw.
After that horror show, I rather fancy my chances of a call-up meself 👍
I did say during the week that is a very weak irish selection, not unexpected
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How’s Leavy doing?
Desperately missed.
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Boxcar Ira wrote:Conan was in savage form pre injury so would be in the mix. Doris probably gives better balance though
Was he really 8) :lol:
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People were definitely trying things, actually had a few really good linebreaks off multiphase play, and Scotland did ‘well’ to slow/spoil), some actual offloading as well.

Not great, but people overegging criticism - game/field position massively impacted by average reffing and Scotland being allowed to be offside/spoil ball all day.

Scrum reffing was shit, but really need to improve the maul.
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Lads & lassies apparently Farrell and his coaching team has only had the Ireland squad for 5 training session so far so I’d not be too harsh on the performance.
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Flametop wrote:How’s Leavy doing?
Desperately missed.
8 weeks
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Lads we knew this year would be muck. Why the surprise?
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Not even reading this, the head line and first few lines.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/ ... 6?mode=amp
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:lol:
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Who in Munster is John O’Sullivan related to?!
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Cooney in, toner in
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2 things.

1. Faz is the only Ireland head coach to never have lost a match.

2. Joe’s Monday morning Skype review ain’t going to be pretty.
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Porter to start at LH next week?

Healy was well below his usual standards.
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Scotland did a number on our scrum alright
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Was at the game. First 6N game in years. I want my money back!

Very few positives. The win is the only one I can come up with. Reminds me of Kidney's last rites.
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Their TH conned the ref and he shrugged his Gallic shoulders and made up his mind early.
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Flametop wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:

Not even reading this, the head line and first few lines.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/ ... 6?mode=amp
Jesus f**king Christ

All we need now is a few more former players to give more of the "rucks in the wrong places" type Murray justifications. Like the emperor has no f**king clothes AND Cooney had an excellent cameo. He's better than Murray at every single facet of scrum half play and has been all season.

Conney needs to start next week and McGrath on the bench. Doesn't change the fact that Murray was undoubtedly the best Irish scrum half of all time...
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Scots losing it! The clip fails to show the tackle on Sexton. Fanning about?

https://twitter.com/thistlerugbypod/sta ... 20066?s=21
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Cooney did nothing special when he came on. Different ball game after 60 mins. He will be a one year wonder like carty. Murray has a million caps. If cooney was 21, then I'd be excited. Farell will stick with Murray next week. Rightly so.
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Healy had his worst game for Ireland. Agree a win's a win though and not the worst way to start a campaign.

Apparently Andy Farrell just called Billy Burns "Freddie" in the press conference and was corrected by Sexton :lol: :blush:
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rageagainstthemachine wrote:Cooney did nothing special when he came on. Different ball game after 60 mins. He will be a one year wonder like carty. Murray has a million caps. If cooney was 21, then I'd be excited. Farell will stick with Murray next week. Rightly so.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion I suppose, which explains Brexit, Trump and the selection of Connor Murray.
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RWC2015 wrote:
rageagainstthemachine wrote:Cooney did nothing special when he came on. Different ball game after 60 mins. He will be a one year wonder like carty. Murray has a million caps. If cooney was 21, then I'd be excited. Farell will stick with Murray next week. Rightly so.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion I suppose, which explains Brexit, Trump and the selection of Connor Murray.
:lol: :lol:
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Cooney deserves to start (and it sends a positive message), but the anti-Murray stuff from people is comical.

Intercept (caused by them slowing ball without being penalised) and penalty were poor, everything else bar one box kick was good - including the excellent pass to put Sexton in the hole for the try.
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“ 9 Conor Murray

Authoritative box kicks gained early territory and while almost to blame for a 14-point swing, when intercepted by Johnson, Stander saved the day with a turnover. John Cooney didn’t do enough in 30 minutes to budge him. Rating: 6



:lol:

Somebody needs to get the photo negatives off him.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/ ... 5?mode=amp

I love Healy but he didn’t play well today.

“ 1 Cian Healy

Lovely quick hands created Sexton’s try. Powerful, unflinching and dynamic even after returning for a concussed Dave Kilcoyne. Proved, once again, that he is Ireland’s primary loosehead. Rating: 7”
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Flametop wrote:Didn’t read this either.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/rugby/ireland- ... ter-209416
That is fúcking genius.
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I thought Murray was slow throughout the game. He looks unsure and lacks confidence. I hated the fact that he kicked way the ball consistently. His first touch and second touch allowed Scotland get into the match. Because he kicked the ball to the them ensuring they had it fit the first 5 minutes. Though cooney was superior when he came in. He sped up
The tempo.
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Murray’s decision making has been appalling for some time.
It’s too important a position to have somebody chucking pies down blind alleys and then goofing it away (badly) when that doesn’t work.
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