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Duff Paddy wrote:If Hogg scores that Ireland would have gone on to lose. We were definitely lucky. This is a really poor Scottish team and we were at home. Anyone here who doesn’t think we have serious problems?

At least the women are playing good positive rugby :lol:
If Joe had been in charge I’m sure we’d have the usual suspects on here defending The Plan and the players.
But aye, we were shite and deserved to lose. The Scottish pack were excellent to be fair, a lot better than we all expected.
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Jim Lahey wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:If Hogg scores that Ireland would have gone on to lose. We were definitely lucky. This is a really poor Scottish team and we were at home. Anyone here who doesn’t think we have serious problems?

At least the women are playing good positive rugby :lol:
If Joe had been in charge I’m sure we’d have the usual suspects on here defending The Plan and the players.
But aye, we were shite and deserved to lose. The Scottish pack were excellent to be fair, a lot better than we all expected.
Whenever we had the ball we were pretty awful - the first instinct was to slow it down, then Murray would either box kick or do a wind up pass to a runner standing still. It was like we were playing a form of the game designed to make it easier for inferior teams to defend against. Opposition teams probably can’t believe their luck. I have no idea who thinks this is a good way to play rugby but we keep on doing it
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Nolanator wrote:That time Murray caught a kick and then tried running up the sideline was madness. Whoever tried to ruck went off their feet and gave away the penalty, but it should never had happened.
Pass infield to the support, or stick another kick up.

Ludicrous decision.
His penalty on 60 mins was worse!
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I thought Scotland played far better than many had speculated before the game.

Ireland were not as bad as some here seem to think.
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I'm gonna do a George Hook here: I have a bad feeling about the Farrell era. I don't think he has the nous to be successful at the top table.

However, to argue against myself:

1. Joe's first big game in charge we were terrible, truly terrible, against Aus, before shooting the lghts out against the ABs the following week
2. Andy might be more of a Gatty type - a motivator not a strategist. Not my kind of coach, but could be what we need

So I guess wait and see....you could see how we were trying to evolve our game plan, with a counterattacking game and less boxkicking from restarts, more offloading. Hopefully the decision making will improve (aki offload to Stockdale was very silly, as was Jordan running onto touch).

Also, Scotland defended our maul really well. They got in around the side of the side on the ball carrier immediately from the catch. I think we'll be a lot better next week. Tonar +1 (prob Ryan) with Hendo for impact. Toner + hendo to rotate seems right to me.

Also, Herring showed up very well :thumbup:
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Miguel Indurain wrote:I thought Scotland played far better than many had speculated before the game.

Ireland were not as bad as some here seem to think.
:thumbup:
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Bit concerning that we were goosed fitness wise in the last twenty. I know we had the bad luck with front row subs but the whole team looked shagged.

Also, yes props to Herring. He was excellent yesterday. Seems to play better for Ireland than he does for Ulster.
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A great result from a poor performance. Digging out the win and the hard nosed defence near our own line speaks volumes about the resilience of the players. One game, one win.

Was surprised to see line breaks stats after the game as the attack looked a little blunt and dull in real-time, and we conceeded way too much quick ball until backed up against our goal line. Farrell/Catt haven't had much time to do anything and the players still give the appearance that they are playing without that much agency, trying more to manipulate/create space to plan rather than playing to the space, and we're lacking in speed of play on both sides of the ball. For men, Sexton has begun to grate and I think I'd enjoy seeing an enirely new 9/10 combination although acknowledge a high price would be paid in terms of game management.
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Ringrose out for Wales and England, broken finger.
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sewa wrote:
lorcanoworms wrote:Bring in more losers like Scannell, Holland, Goggins and JJ.
Who is calling for them to be brought in? Toner and Cooney imo
What did Toner do when he came on?

Henderson had a very good game, probably better than Ryan, your just showing your brainless dislike for him.
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YOYO wrote:Active pivot lads.
Radge knows what he's talking about but he's woeful at explaining it without a video. :lol:
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Uncle Fester wrote:Bit concerning that we were goosed fitness wise in the last twenty. I know we had the bad luck with front row subs but the whole team looked shagged.

Also, yes props to Herring. He was excellent yesterday. Seems to play better for Ireland than he does for Ulster.
He plays as good as that for Ulster, outside of the lineout, a very good hooker. but no matter who is the thrower, or the jumper Ulster haven't had a top lineout since Harrison in the mid-00s
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Willie Falloon wrote:
sewa wrote:
lorcanoworms wrote:Bring in more losers like Scannell, Holland, Goggins and JJ.
Who is calling for them to be brought in? Toner and Cooney imo
What did Toner do when he came on?

Henderson had a very good game, probably better than Ryan, your just showing your brainless dislike for him.

Ryan was uncharacteristically poor. The front five bar Herring underperformed.
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Appropriate parties signed the "Sorry we wrote you off CJ" petition?
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danthefan wrote:Ringrose out for Wales and England, broken finger.
Tape it up ffs
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Thought it looked like his thumb
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Mullet 2 wrote:
danthefan wrote:Ringrose out for Wales and England, broken finger.
Tape it up ffs

Young 'uns eh!
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Could be all sorts of tissue damage. You don't mess with that, lose the ability to move your fingers if you're unlucky.
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Lads need to have a united front this week
No provincialism
We can’t lose to those welsh cûnts
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danthefan wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:Looking at some of the threads. Plenty are furious we won that match.

We certainly got lucky
I don't think we could have had any real complaints if we'd lost. Hogg dropping the ball was a real let off.
Ah here lads. We were nothing special, but Scotland were shite. We might have deserved to get beaten, but that shower certainly didn't deserve to win.
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Winnie wrote:Lads need to have a united front this week
No provincialism
We can’t lose to those welsh cûnts
We are going to get a reality check
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Who is injured for Wales then?
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Agreed. How many times did Scotland break our line? Hardly at all. We looked far more dangerous in their 22 than they did in ours. The worry is how piss poor our front five were. Herring excepted.
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France are back lads. Going to be a long tournament for us.
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Duff Paddy wrote:
Winnie wrote:Lads need to have a united front this week
No provincialism
We can’t lose to those welsh cûnts
We are going to get a reality check
We have the players
Are we playing the right game plan
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Winnie wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
Winnie wrote:Lads need to have a united front this week
No provincialism
We can’t lose to those welsh cûnts
We are going to get a reality check
We have the players
Are we playing the right game plan
Teams have just figured us out. Farrell needed to start rebuilding a new team with a new style but he’s not empowered to do that as the IRFU want him to win 6N matches first and foremost. He doesn’t have the luxury of using this year’s tournament to build for the future
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Let’s see how good England are without tuilagi and billy v
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Winnie wrote:Let’s see how good England are without tuilagi and billy v
France now looking under pole position for the tournament
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Chip thru from furbank leads to a try for France after one phase. We should do that more.
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paddyor wrote:Chip thru from furbank leads to a try for France after one phase. We should do that more.
it puts a shred of doubt on a rushing defence
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Duff Paddy wrote:
Winnie wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
Winnie wrote:Lads need to have a united front this week
No provincialism
We can’t lose to those welsh cûnts
We are going to get a reality check
We have the players
Are we playing the right game plan
Teams have just figured us out. Farrell needed to start rebuilding a new team with a new style but he’s not empowered to do that as the IRFU want him to win 6N matches first and foremost. He doesn’t have the luxury of using this year’s tournament to build for the future
Surely with two European quarter finalists and a possible winner the money from Europe will replace anything lost in a transitional 6N
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paddyor wrote:Chip thru from furbank leads to a try for France after one phase. We should do that more.
Safety first is working so well.
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EverReady wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
Winnie wrote:Let’s see how good England are without tuilagi and billy v
France now looking under pole position for the tournament
I think a good few of us tipped them tbf. This is very decent though
They could still shit the bed.
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They should thrash us like.
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France defence looking scarily good.
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Armchair_Superstar wrote:
EverReady wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
Winnie wrote:Let’s see how good England are without tuilagi and billy v
France now looking under pole position for the tournament
I think a good few of us tipped them tbf. This is very decent though
They could still shit the bed.
THey have to go to Cardiff. Could be tough.
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EverReady wrote:We are in for a fallow few years. Really its all about how many
Ireland need to maximise the playing resources, this currently isnt happening. but the review of the current academy system should help that
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I'm really glad I'm going to Paris to watch us get smashed.
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earl the beaver wrote:I'm really glad I'm going to Paris to watch us get smashed.
Our attack versus a Shaun Edwards’ defence = :blush: x(
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earl the beaver wrote:I'm really glad I'm going to Paris to watch us get smashed.
They will probably be going to the Grand Slam and will be as nervous as fudge.
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