The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Flametop · Post by **Flametop** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:07 pm

Ulsters Red Hand wrote:
Flametop wrote:France look like they can’t be arsed against the Italians.
They look soft up the middle and exposed out wide.
Yep, bar some Dupont magic they wouldnt have built that lead at the start and may have been a different game
I don't think they will beat the Taffs away from home, keep the game structured in attack and with a good defence they will struggle,
Whisper it softly, but could we see a 6N slam in Paris?

If Wales beat them in Cardiff and we win away in England, we’d have a good chance.
Winner takes all in Paris would be far more difficult.
Still early days though.

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:21 pm

Apparently no hot water for showers after the women's game???

Flametop · Post by **Flametop** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:27 pm

Uncle Fester wrote:Apparently no hot water for showers after the women's game???

Ice baths not good enough for them?

feckwanker · Post by **feckwanker** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:30 pm

Ulsters Red Hand wrote:
Flametop wrote:France look like they can’t be arsed against the Italians.
They look soft up the middle and exposed out wide.
Yep, bar some Dupont magic they wouldnt have built that lead at the start and may have been a different game
I don't think they will beat the Taffs away from home, keep the game structured in attack and with a good defence they will struggle,
Whisper it softly, but could we see a 6N slam in Paris?

Ignore him oh mocker gods!

England to whoop us next weekend now thanks to URH.

Risteard · Post by **Risteard** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:38 pm

feckwanker wrote:
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:
Flametop wrote:France look like they can’t be arsed against the Italians.
They look soft up the middle and exposed out wide.
Yep, bar some Dupont magic they wouldnt have built that lead at the start and may have been a different game
I don't think they will beat the Taffs away from home, keep the game structured in attack and with a good defence they will struggle,
Whisper it softly, but could we see a 6N slam in Paris?
Ignore him oh mocker gods!

England to whoop us next weekend now thanks to URH.

They can whoop us all they want next weekend as long as we hit back on the following.

Ulsters Red Hand · Post by **Ulsters Red Hand** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:52 pm

feckwanker wrote:
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:
Flametop wrote:France look like they can’t be arsed against the Italians.
They look soft up the middle and exposed out wide.
Yep, bar some Dupont magic they wouldnt have built that lead at the start and may have been a different game
I don't think they will beat the Taffs away from home, keep the game structured in attack and with a good defence they will struggle,
Whisper it softly, but could we see a 6N slam in Paris?
Ignore him oh mocker gods!

England to whoop us next weekend now thanks to URH.

I don't think anyone is truthfully expecting anything otherwise
They've been poor the past two weeks, will want to come out and prove a point at Twickenham. Can't see us getting within 7 points of them.

Ulsters Red Hand · Post by **Ulsters Red Hand** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:53 pm

Risteard wrote:
feckwanker wrote:
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:
Flametop wrote:France look like they can’t be arsed against the Italians.
They look soft up the middle and exposed out wide.
Yep, bar some Dupont magic they wouldnt have built that lead at the start and may have been a different game
I don't think they will beat the Taffs away from home, keep the game structured in attack and with a good defence they will struggle,
Whisper it softly, but could we see a 6N slam in Paris?
Ignore him oh mocker gods!

England to whoop us next weekend now thanks to URH.
They can whoop us all they want next weekend as long as we hit back on the following.

EverReady · Post by **EverReady** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:01 pm

Uncle Fester wrote:Apparently no hot water for showers after the women's game???

I was hoping they would come running out all in the nip but didn't think it through

Mr. Very Popular · Post by **Mr. Very Popular** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:05 pm

Uncle Fester wrote:Apparently no hot water for showers after the women's game???

Are you sure that wasn't mixed up with the commentary team talking about having none when they won the GS in the mud bath?

Trostan · Post by **Trostan** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:27 pm

Mr. Very Popular wrote:
Uncle Fester wrote:Apparently no hot water for showers after the women's game???
Are you sure that wasn't mixed up with the commentary team talking about having none when they won the GS in the mud bath?

It was in Ashbourne about 8 or 9 years ago. I was there.
Women beatt the French and spent 10 mins celebrating with the fans.
Cold wet night.
French left the showers running so our women had no hot water.

Despot · Post by **Despot** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:43 pm

Happened again today. Official apology from irfu. V poor

Banana Man · Post by **Banana Man** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:57 pm

Bective Rangers been forced into an apology, apparently their heater was damaged and no one noticed

IRFU gave official apology too.

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:06 pm

Mr. Very Popular wrote:
Uncle Fester wrote:Apparently no hot water for showers after the women's game???
Are you sure that wasn't mixed up with the commentary team talking about having none when they won the GS in the mud bath?

Welsh captain had a bitch about it in post match interview. She's dead right to in fairness.

EverReady · Post by **EverReady** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:20 pm

We have all had to suffer that. Why do they think they are so special

Flametop · Post by **Flametop** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:23 pm

EverReady wrote:We have all had to suffer that. Why do they think they are so special

Yep. Reduced inflammation and back hitting the weights tomorrow morning.

Trostan · Post by **Trostan** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:28 pm

EverReady wrote:We have all had to suffer that. Why do they think they are so special

Well, it's an awful lot of hard nipples.

EverReady · Post by **EverReady** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:29 pm

Primadonnas thinking they should get hot water and fresh towels like they are in the Ritz

Mr. Very Popular · Post by **Mr. Very Popular** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:38 pm

EverReady wrote:Primadonnas thinking they should get hot water and fresh towels like they are in the Ritz

Probably want all the men to clear out of the changing rooms as well

EverReady · Post by **EverReady** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:41 pm

Mr. Very Popular wrote:
EverReady wrote:Primadonnas thinking they should get hot water and fresh towels like they are in the Ritz
Probably want all the men to clear out of the changing rooms as well

No peepholes and other mad shit like that

Bogbunny · Post by **Bogbunny** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:42 pm

Mr. Very Popular wrote:
EverReady wrote:Primadonnas thinking they should get hot water and fresh towels like they are in the Ritz
Probably want all the men to clear out of the changing rooms as well

Get that kit washed and ironed pronto lad!

Liathroidigloine · Post by **Liathroidigloine** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:24 am

FFS, we kick the shit out of the Welsh and we are on page 2.

Rewatched the game. Stander had a great game but my MOM was Sexton, excellent performance.

Flametop · Post by **Flametop** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:30 am

Conway, Larmour, Sexton and even Henshaw for his first half performance would have been in with a shout.

Quinlan is a partisan idiot, has he formed a Frankie Sheehan style management company?

ticketlessinseattle · Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:41 am

this lad Stander is fairly handy

Jim Lahey · Post by **Jim Lahey** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:45 am

Liathroidigloine wrote:FFS, we kick the shit out of the Welsh and we are on page 2.

Rewatched the game. Stander had a great game but my MOM was Sexton, excellent performance.

You Mexicans have bigger problems in your lives right now than discussing a very solid win against the Welsh.
Take the rest of the week off and leave it to us to discuss how much Farrell despises Cooney, McCloskey, Addison and Baloucoune.

Liathroidigloine · Post by **Liathroidigloine** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:47 am

Jim Lahey wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:FFS, we kick the shit out of the Welsh and we are on page 2.

Rewatched the game. Stander had a great game but my MOM was Sexton, excellent performance.
You Mexicans have bigger problems in your lives right now than discussing a very solid win against the Welsh.
Take the rest of the week off and leave it to us to discuss how much Farrell despises Cooney, McCloskey, Addison and Baloucoune.

Jack McGrath, Marty, Marshall, Gilroy and Treadwell.

Yer Man · Post by **Yer Man** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:48 am

Flametop wrote:Conway, Larmour, Sexton and even Henshaw for his first half performance would have been in with a shout.

Quinlan is a partisan idiot, has he formed a Frankie Sheehan style management company?

There were improvements in a number of areas after Game 1.
Scrum was better, maul was better, Henshaw running at space and looking for off-loads, Larmour having learnt from last week about clearance kicking...

Maybe for next time we can figure out "da movez" that should be used off an attacking scrum in front of the oppo posts.

"Plan Sigma-Gamme: quick channel one ball, look at it for a while, pick it up, lob it to static scrum half, stroll into contact with three defenders and allow them to rip it away..."

Maybe Mike Catt's been channelling General Melchett?

Flametop · Post by **Flametop** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:51 am

The one Murray tricked up into contact was infuriating.
Larmour was in an acre of space to the right with Conway in a 2 on 2 that was the nightmare situation for Wakes to defend.

CM11 · Post by **CM11** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:53 am

Liathroidigloine wrote:FFS, we kick the shit out of the Welsh and we are on page 2.

Rewatched the game. Stander had a great game but my MOM was Sexton, excellent performance.

All my enthusiasm and buzz from the game was drained with the exit poll.

Anyway, yeah, good all round performance. Lots of zip and energy. Not perfect but I'll take it.

Boxcar Ira · Post by **Boxcar Ira** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:53 am

Anyway - back to more positive developments from the weekend. Might be our last Six Nations win before Rugby is banned

Liathroidigloine · Post by **Liathroidigloine** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:55 am

Boxcar Ira wrote:Anyway - back to more positive developments from the weekend. Might be our last Six Nations win before Rugby is banned

I for one welcome this development and have already invested in a Celtic jersey.

Boxcar Ira · Post by **Boxcar Ira** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:56 am

As long as the ban comes in before the inevitable 5 star nonsense, I'll be happy to jump on the Celtic bandwagon

Yer Man · Post by **Yer Man** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:57 am

Flametop wrote:The one Murray tricked up into contact was infuriating.
Larmour was in an acre of space to the right with Conway in a 2 on 2 that was the nightmare situation for Wakes to defend.

I was speaking at the TV, quick strike - Stander pick it and go hard to the right.
Probably beat the flanker and the chance to put Larmour and/or Conway in a one-on-one

Flametop · Post by **Flametop** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:59 am

Yer Man wrote:
Flametop wrote:The one Murray tricked up into contact was infuriating.
Larmour was in an acre of space to the right with Conway in a 2 on 2 that was the nightmare situation for Wakes to defend.
I was speaking at the TV, quick strike - Stander pick it and go hard to the right.
Probably beat the flanker and the chance to put Larmour and/or Conway in a one-on-one

Just look at the room they had.
Anybody saying Murray is making the correct decisions needs to have a rethink, even allowing for his improvement. So slow from Stander also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQU_FP9q3KY&t=112m0s

danthefan · Post by **danthefan** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:09 am

Perfect position in the middle of the pitch and we go for a SH trucking it up

Also - a good indication of why the stats say Stander seems to pass so much.

Yer Man · Post by **Yer Man** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:09 am

As mentioned by someone yesterday, Murray was playing quite sharp in the early part of the game.
But he was due for replacement certainly no later than the 60 minute mark.

Loved Cooney's work in that try.
Starts with a short pass in front of Derek allowing him to run onto it and cross the gain line.
Then quick ball is secured and no pissing about, cuts out two men and gets it to Ross Byrne.
Good hands from the lads + one good hand-off = try.

Okay, I know we should always expect to see a replacement scrum-half quicken the play - it's the whole point of bringing them on - but still it was quality.

Kilcoyne also made a real impact when he came on.

Armchair_Superstar · Post by **Armchair_Superstar** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:32 am

I don't think you can criticise Murray for anything other than being caught carrying the wrong way into contact because he was looking for the offload.

They were obviously looking to put pressure on that channel and stack it with players to get quick ball. Then they've forwards going the same way, or out the back to Byrne, or they've the option to go back the other way with backs in space. You can see Byrne already bossing the forwards before Murray gets stripped.

Floppykid · Post by **Floppykid** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:53 pm

Herring was great for the first 50, but really started to gas after that if I remember right.

Yer Man · Post by **Yer Man** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:05 pm

Floppykid wrote:Herring was great for the first 50, but really started to gas after that if I remember right.

Not sure if gassed, but he's never in the same league as Best who knew where the rucks would be and how to fück them up for the oppo.
Wales owned the ball pretty much from the 50th to 70th minutes and Herring couldn't affect the game in that time.

Would like to see how Kelleher puts himself about when you're under the cosh.
As we will be at the Cabbage Patch in a couple of weeks.

Trostan · Post by **Trostan** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:14 pm

Liathroidigloine wrote:FFS, we kick the shit out of the Welsh and we are on page 2.

Rewatched the game. Stander had a great game but my MOM was Sexton, excellent performance.

Ulsters Red Hand · Post by **Ulsters Red Hand** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:21 pm

Floppykid wrote:Herring was great for the first 50, but really started to gas after that if I remember right.

That’s to be expected, tbf. When all were fit he was usually benching for Ulster but more importantly this is his first crack at consistent international rugby. It would take anyone time to get up to speed. Regardless, i’d want Kelleher on the last 20/30 anyway