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iarmhiman wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:51 pm
camroc1 wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:50 pm Leinster need to sort out the scrum pronto.
game is gone. They need to put respect on the score
The game isn’t gone. If Leinster score next they’re still in it. But they’ll need to seriously smarten up
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It’s not that we’re just being squeezed, we’re being battered. And we have no platform off which we can put some pace into the game to get back in it. It will take a red card, something extraordinary, to alter the balance.

Saracens are simply better.
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That was a tidy try by Goode, I like his jammy running style
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jezzer wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:49 pm
El Homerino wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:48 pm Henshaw is an empty Jersey when he comes up against top level sides.
Would help him if there was an offside line.
There is, McGrath’s passing/control is killing everything outside him.
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McGrath is picking the ball up and waiting for Itoje to stand beside Sexton before firing it up in the air.
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Well went as a lot of us expected it would. The pure power of a team like Sarries fücks us. Same at international level. All the passed play in the world can't compete. Sarries are special though.
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iarmhiman wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:50 pm Leinsters problem is the preparation. Every game has been easy up to this.
Leinster have had harder fixtures since the restart than Sarries. Granted, less of them.
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The pack is on toast.

But the score flatters Sarries. 9 of the 12 opening points were the new ref rules that you need to blow your whistle as often as possible.


Then the rest were scrum penalties where we are just their play thing.


Leinster want to play running rugby, sarries dont. Have to question management here in how they set the team up. Terrible.
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grimoald wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:53 pm
jezzer wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:49 pm
El Homerino wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:48 pm Henshaw is an empty Jersey when he comes up against top level sides.
Would help him if there was an offside line.
There is, McGrath’s passing/control is killing everything outside him.
That too!
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Cartman wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:53 pm That was a tidy try by Goode, I like his jammy running style
Yep, very underrated player
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diarm wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:52 pm
quarter2four wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:50 pm If he gets this I'm turning off the game
But what are you going to do if he gets this one?
Feck off :D
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IBWT wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:52 pm As good as Sarries have been, Leinster have been crap. Sarries have been playing the same way for years but Leinster seem completely unprepared for it. Albeit the scrum going to absolute shite hasn’t helped.
Sarries are the best team in Europe so clearly not many teams can prepare for them
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well 6 of those points were as a result of Luke McGrath bad pass, then Sexton's restart followed by a scrum.
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Saracens have played the ref better and we have bottled it.
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Salanya wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:51 pm
Ulsters Red Hand wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:48 pm A perfect example of why you shouldn't think you're better than everyone else
That's such a lame quote. We were all worried about this one.

Nobody said we're better than everyone else, we just know we're much better than Ulster.
I was talking about the Leinster players, I don't doubt for a second Leinster players thought this game was in the bag once Farrell was gone
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What annoys me is leinster got 3 or so penalties in the 22 for no return.


Sarries got a load of penalties around halfway which they howitzer over for 15 points.
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BOD says there's a hurricane blowing. Must have been difficult playing against it. 2 nd half will be grand.
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Flametop wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:53 pm McGrath is picking the ball up and waiting for Itoje to stand beside Sexton before firing it up in the air.
He’s having a mare but not many scrum halves would live with their pack getting a dicking like this
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Lowe/Larmour ain’t going to work in a back 3 at test level either
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I still think if McGrath is taking off (he's stone useless) that Leinster could mount a comeback
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IBWT wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:52 pm As good as Sarries have been, Leinster have been crap. Sarries have been playing the same way for years but Leinster seem completely unprepared for it. Albeit the scrum going to absolute shite hasn’t helped.
Lol you can prepare as much as you want, if you get overpowered, it's hard to do anything about that.
Sarries pack is simply far more powerful than Leinster pack and that was already showed in last year final.
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nardol wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:54 pm The pack is on toast.

But the score flatters Sarries. 9 of the 12 opening points were the new ref rules that you need to blow your whistle as often as possible.


Then the rest were scrum penalties where we are just their play thing.


Leinster want to play running rugby, sarries dont. Have to question management here in how they set the team up. Terrible.
That’s bollocks.
Leinster want to play running rugby do they? They have been shite in attack. They’ve deserved nothing so far. No answer to the predictable rush defence.
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Saracens should have had a yellow card for repeated infringements.
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Duff Paddy wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:56 pm
Flametop wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:53 pm McGrath is picking the ball up and waiting for Itoje to stand beside Sexton before firing it up in the air.
He’s having a mare but not many scrum halves would live with their pack getting a dicking like this
One does not excuse the other.
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nardol wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:54 pm The pack is on toast.

But the score flatters Sarries. 9 of the 12 opening points were the new ref rules that you need to blow your whistle as often as possible.


Then the rest were scrum penalties where we are just their play thing.


Leinster want to play running rugby, sarries dont. Have to question management here in how they set the team up. Terrible.
The worst kind of rugby. Effective but boring
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Duff Paddy wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:56 pm
Flametop wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:53 pm McGrath is picking the ball up and waiting for Itoje to stand beside Sexton before firing it up in the air.
He’s having a mare but not many scrum halves would live with their pack getting a dicking like this
He's still very slow. That Itoje intercept was mistake from him
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Diabhal wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:56 pm I still think if McGrath is taking off (he's stone useless) that Leinster could mount a comeback
In that scenario it’s an easy win.
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Cartman wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:53 pm That was a tidy try by Goode, I like his jammy running style
It was a clever move. Mako Vunipola took out the covering Connors (I think) with his dummy run, and got away with it, which is the main thing.
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iarmhiman wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:54 pm well 6 of those points were as a result of Luke McGrath bad pass, then Sexton's restart followed by a scrum.
The scrum has been worth 13 points.

Mcgrath is killing any chance we have though.
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we've been shite in attack since the rugby has come back
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jezzer wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:57 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:56 pm
Flametop wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:53 pm McGrath is picking the ball up and waiting for Itoje to stand beside Sexton before firing it up in the air.
He’s having a mare but not many scrum halves would live with their pack getting a dicking like this
One does not excuse the other.
True, I’d take him off but he’s only one of many reasons we’re shite today
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camroc1 wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:57 pm
Cartman wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:53 pm That was a tidy try by Goode, I like his jammy running style
It was a clever move. Mako Vunipola took out the covering Connors (I think) with his dummy run, and got away with it, which is the main thing.
Mako didn’t take out connors. He misread the play and almost stopped running until the offload happened.
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Was the itoji intercept offside or legit?
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iarmhiman wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:57 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:56 pm
Flametop wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:53 pm McGrath is picking the ball up and waiting for Itoje to stand beside Sexton before firing it up in the air.
He’s having a mare but not many scrum halves would live with their pack getting a dicking like this
He's still very slow. That Itoje intercept was mistake from him
The replay was not kind
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nardol wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:58 pm Was the itoji intercept offside or legit?
I thought it was borderline but probably fair.
If McGrath wasn’t dithering as per, it wouldn’t have been an issue.
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nardol wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:58 pm Was the itoji intercept offside or legit?
Offside but still appalling by McGrath.
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Flametop wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:59 pm
nardol wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:58 pm Was the itoji intercept offside or legit?
Offside but still appalling by McGrath.
McGrath was asking for it. He’s a well established international player now, he has to do better
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nardol wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:58 pm Was the itoji intercept offside or legit?
Offside.
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If McGrath re-emerges after the break it will tell us quite a bit.
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Kelleher, Baird and JGP to come on at halftime? It’s
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