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El Homerino wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:36 pm Apologies for the turn of phrase. Henshaw can step? McCloskey drew players and threw numerous nice passes tonight. The forwards were atrocious.
Spastic is a great word and nobody uses it to insult disabled people. It's like saying we shouldn't use idiot as it traditionally meant somebody with a learning difficulty. Maybe it did but now it means an idiot. Spastic means a bigger idiot
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I didn't see it today, precis?
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Bogbunny wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:36 pm
Conspicuous wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:29 pm
El Homerino wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:24 pm Starting pack for next week? :uhoh:
Healy
Herring
Porter
Ryan
Henderson
Dorris
VdF
Stander

POM will start though, put your house on it
Ryan shouldn't be anywhere near the 23 with his recent form. He is a shadow of his former self at the moment, no bite no fight. Whether he isn't fully fit or isn't captain material .... something is affecting him.

If Baird is fit, put him in at 5 and Roux on the bench.
I don’t disagree on Ryan and I don’t think it’s captaincy related , he was struggling before he was promoted . Think he was rushed back from that injury tbh . He might be given a week off but I doubt it , think they’ll try and play him back into form, whether that’s the right approach to take or not
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earl the beaver wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:53 pm I didn't see it today, precis?
What do you think?
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earl the beaver wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:53 pm I didn't see it today, precis?
Ireland rolled back the years to RWC2007
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earl the beaver wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:53 pm I didn't see it today, precis?
Put it this way. If you have the option of watching it later you're better off getting a spoon and gouging your eyes out
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earl the beaver wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:53 pm I didn't see it today, precis?
Would have won by more if Stockdale had a few more braincells.

And we were shïïïte in the second half.
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El Homerino wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:39 pm He won't drop the new captain
Naming him captain when he was playing poorly was a poor mistake. Continuing to start him and keeping him as captain is a bigger mistake.

Ryan has been the worst of Ireland's locks by a non-insignificant amount over the last few weeks.
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Also, for the second week in a row, Byrne was a huge step down on Burns.
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Ulsters Red Hand wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:42 pm We need to tear up the playbook and start from scratch. Anyone with an ounce of something about them should start

EOS
Kelleher
Porter
Ryan
Hendo/Baird
Stander
Connors
AN Other

Cooney
H Byrne
Stockdale
Aki
Hume
Keenan
Lowry

Replace any of these players from anyone from your province who is better
Throw Coombes in at 8
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Hendo and Baird/Roux in the 2nd row next week with Ryan on the bench. It should put a rocket up him and send a message to the squad that Farrell can be ruthless if needed and nobody is safe which is badly needed
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feckwanker wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:06 pm
Ulsters Red Hand wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:42 pm We need to tear up the playbook and start from scratch. Anyone with an ounce of something about them should start

EOS
Kelleher
Porter
Ryan
Hendo/Baird
Stander
Connors
AN Other

Cooney
H Byrne
Stockdale
Aki
Hume
Keenan
Lowry

Replace any of these players from anyone from your province who is better
Throw Coombes in at 8
This I would do
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The centre partnership is not working. It's shovel ball with no nous, and ends with either a poor kick through, or the ball gone to ground. There's nobody running lines, they're taking the ball flat and static, and shoveling it on, without even standing their man.

Neither Burns Jnr, nor Byrne Snr are the answer at OH.

I thought Murray got to the rucks quickly enough - amazing what some pressure on his position can do.

Ryan is too quiet to be captain.
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Butchering a huge overlap against Georgia sums up our current :lol: attack.

Flat passes to static inside and outside backs with quite a few going behind the receiver.
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camroc1 wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:11 pm The centre partnership is not working. It's shovel ball with no nous, and ends with either a poor kick through, or the ball gone to ground. There's nobody running lines, they're taking the ball flat and static, and shoveling it on, without even standing their man.

Neither Burns Jnr, nor Byrne Snr are the answer at OH.

I thought Murray got to the rucks quickly enough - amazing what some pressure on his position can do.

Ryan is too quiet to be captain.
Chris Farrell hasn't impressed me at all these last couple of weeks. For a big lad, he gets turned over a lot.
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On the other hand we wuz robbed of a try and Ryan also felt he touched down the ball before half time. That's 12-14 points right there.
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Ulsters Red Hand wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:42 pm We need to tear up the playbook and start from scratch. Anyone with an ounce of something about them should start

EOS
Kelleher
Porter
Ryan
Hendo/Baird
Stander
Connors
AN Other

Cooney
H Byrne
Stockdale
Aki
Hume
Keenan
Lowry

Replace any of these players from anyone from your province who is better
Frawley or McCloskey at 12.
Plus Moore is better than Hume
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camroc1 wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:11 pm The centre partnership is not working. It's shovel ball with no nous, and ends with either a poor kick through, or the ball gone to ground. There's nobody running lines, they're taking the ball flat and static, and shoveling it on, without even standing their man.

Neither Burns Jnr, nor Byrne Snr are the answer at OH.

I thought Murray got to the rucks quickly enough - amazing what some pressure on his position can do.

Ryan is too quiet to be captain.
Funnily enough I usually think Murray is fine but found him very ponderous around the breakdown today. Fück arsing about a lot
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EverReady wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:29 pm On the other hand we wuz robbed of a try and Ryan also felt he touched down the ball before half time. That's 12-14 points right there.
I am glad they were disallowed as it would have helped the coaching ticket and media paper over the cracks
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EverReady wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:29 pm On the other hand we wuz robbed of a try and Ryan also felt he touched down the ball before half time. That's 12-14 points right there.
Neither Raynal nor his TMO covered themselves in glory, but that doesn't excuse how Ireland played.
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EverReady wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:30 pm
camroc1 wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:11 pm The centre partnership is not working. It's shovel ball with no nous, and ends with either a poor kick through, or the ball gone to ground. There's nobody running lines, they're taking the ball flat and static, and shoveling it on, without even standing their man.

Neither Burns Jnr, nor Byrne Snr are the answer at OH.

I thought Murray got to the rucks quickly enough - amazing what some pressure on his position can do.

Ryan is too quiet to be captain.
Funnily enough I usually think Murray is fine but found him very ponderous around the breakdown today. Fück arsing about a lot
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Felt like another needless selection pre-match but Ireland needed him. The path to becoming the starting Lions scrumhalf in South Africa next summer should open up now. Rating: 5”
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How shite were we?
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EverReady wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:30 pm
camroc1 wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:11 pm The centre partnership is not working. It's shovel ball with no nous, and ends with either a poor kick through, or the ball gone to ground. There's nobody running lines, they're taking the ball flat and static, and shoveling it on, without even standing their man.

Neither Burns Jnr, nor Byrne Snr are the answer at OH.

I thought Murray got to the rucks quickly enough - amazing what some pressure on his position can do.

Ryan is too quiet to be captain.
Funnily enough I usually think Murray is fine but found him very ponderous around the breakdown today. Fück arsing about a lot
Not only ponderous his passing was fooking sh!t as well. He had a few good kicks but that hardly compensates. No Cooney (or Casey for that matter but they have a policy against picking young players) in the squad is criminal.
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DOB wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:33 pm How shite were we?
Sloppy poo, running down your leg, shite.
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DOB wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:33 pm How shite were we?
I only caught the last 10 minutes and that was far too much.
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camroc1 wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:32 pm
EverReady wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:29 pm On the other hand we wuz robbed of a try and Ryan also felt he touched down the ball before half time. That's 12-14 points right there.
Neither Raynal nor his TMO covered themselves in glory, but that doesn't excuse how Ireland played.
True on both counts.
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I think we will take a lot of learnings from that one.

I thought Faz congratulating Georgia for not getting put to the sword was a lovely touch.
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DOB wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:33 pm How shite were we?
Repetitive predictable.
One or two out runners getting caught or driven back
Trucking it up the middle and being turned over.
For the nth time, being unable to convert a lot of good possession in the oppos 22 into scores.
Line-out was good, some good grubbers to the corner,
But an awful lot of wasted possession
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Flametop wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:42 pm I think we will take a lot of learnings from that one.

I thought Faz congratulating Georgia for not getting put to the sword was a lovely touch.
Great. More learnings that we can ignore
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It’s hard to explain just how poor we are these days. The players can’t enjoy playing like this. We have lost all confidence. Wales put up a better fight than us against England because we had lost that match before a ball was kicked. Farrell has to go, it’s inevitable. We need a new outsider coach who can rebuild a new team.
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HighKingLeinster wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:44 pm
Flametop wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:42 pm I think we will take a lot of learnings from that one.

I thought Faz congratulating Georgia for not getting put to the sword was a lovely touch.
Great. More learnings that we can ignore
:lol: I read it as lemmings which makes as much sense
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Flametop wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:42 pm I think we will take a lot of learnings from that one.

I thought Faz congratulating Georgia for not getting put to the sword was a lovely touch.
Well to be fair he was right to praise Georgia, he was also right that the officials dicked us out of two tries. And right again that the 2nd half performance was basically a shambles. Unfortunately being correct doesn't really excuse any of it.
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Bogbunny wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:45 pm
HighKingLeinster wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:44 pm
Flametop wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:42 pm I think we will take a lot of learnings from that one.

I thought Faz congratulating Georgia for not getting put to the sword was a lovely touch.
Great. More learnings that we can ignore
:lol: I read it as lemmings which makes as much sense
Did I forget to put a sarcastic smilie after learnings?
I didn’t think it was required.
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What I wouldn’t give for a bastard like Eddie Jones coaching the team.
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camroc1 wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:11 pm The centre partnership is not working. It's shovel ball with no nous, and ends with either a poor kick through, or the ball gone to ground. There's nobody running lines, they're taking the ball flat and static, and shoveling it on, without even standing their man.

Neither Burns Jnr, nor Byrne Snr are the answer at OH.

I thought Murray got to the rucks quickly enough - amazing what some pressure on his position can do.

Ryan is too quiet to be captain.
You say the centre partnership isnt working like they have been playing together for 10-15 tests like Aki and Henshaw (now there is a centre partnership that isnt working).
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The good news is the highlights are on C4 at 11pm.
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lorcanoworms wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:03 pm The good news is the highlights are on C4 at 11pm.
I'd rather watch my feet dissolve in a basin of acid thank you
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lorcanoworms wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:03 pm The good news is the highlights are on C4 at 11pm.

Over by 5 past.
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Jackson has had a tidy game for LI ,getting back a bit of form
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Well lads we ask thought it was going to be shite beforehand but i don't think any if us thought it would be that shite.

Serious questions need to be asked of this team. The gameplan and management in particular. But even they can't be blamed for the individual and collective shite that the players served up.

Stockdale was so poor in defence. Yes we know he's great in attack but his defence has been an issue for a long time now and he shows very little evidence of correcting it. How long can Ireland carry him for?
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