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irishrugbyua wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:15 pm He is a 21 year old who is still developing.. Sexton was hardly dominating week in and week out at the same age. He'd be further along if it wasn't for injury, people just need to be patient.
Harry would also be further along if he wasn't competing with Sexton and Ross, (and other potential 10s like Frawley and Hawkshaw), for the shirt. When Sexton broke into the first team he was our first homegrown 10 since Emmett Farrell (I think?) and the other 2 outhalves in the squad were foreign utility players (Felipe and Isa), so even if he hadn't been as good as he eventually turned out, he just had to reach a certain level of competence to get opportunities.
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Similar to ROG as he said recently. Both were allowed a relatively free hand to grow into the position and make mistakes in a way the younger lads just don't get nowadays.
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Farrell hasn't been afraid to pick lads with little experience or little first choice/European rugby in Irish squads and even in match day teams - look at, for example, Casey, Connors, O'Toole, Keenan, Daly. In the past these sorts of players were rarely picked for Ireland so soon after establishing themselves or with so little European rugby. How often did we hear "needs to prove it in the HEC" to justify playing them? But Keenan was flying for one season of Pro14 rugby (only made his HEC debut in September), Connors the same, Daly similar, Casey is still not first choice for Munster, O'Toole has only started one game for Ulster this season and last season was largely benching as well.

The issue is that (a) he's not trusting those sorts of players in a few key positions, (b) the classic Irish rugby mindset of "playing themselves in to form" attitude to senior players, and (c), most importantly and clearly most relevantly, that he's not picking some of the specific players/young players we all want him to :lol:



(Not that I'm a fan, I hate the way Ireland are playing, the negative play, and I'm still at a loss to what attacking plan he/Catt are trying to implement, but it's just something to bare in mind. That and how many time it's been declared on here for it to be an absolute thundering disgrace for a player to have been left out of a squad, only for them to fade away/turn out to be not that good, actually...)
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DOB wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:40 pm
irishrugbyua wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:15 pm He is a 21 year old who is still developing.. Sexton was hardly dominating week in and week out at the same age. He'd be further along if it wasn't for injury, people just need to be patient.
Harry would also be further along if he wasn't competing with Sexton and Ross, (and other potential 10s like Frawley and Hawkshaw), for the shirt. When Sexton broke into the first team he was our first homegrown 10 since Emmett Farrell (I think?) and the other 2 outhalves in the squad were foreign utility players (Felipe and Isa), so even if he hadn't been as good as he eventually turned out, he just had to reach a certain level of competence to get opportunities.
The comparable season for Sexton, at Byrne's current age, is 06/07 when Sexton made 3 appearances for Leinster. The following season Sexton capitalised on D'Arcy's injury as Contepomi played 12 in the league. Even the following season again Sexton was sent back to the AIL to find some form. So it wasn't until the semi final in 09 that Sexton finally came of age. That'd be 2 years for now for Byrne if he went the same route.

If anything Harry is ahead of Sexton with the former already on 19 Leinster caps and Irish squad involvement compared to Sexton's 4 caps and relatively unrated.
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Can we dress Jacko up in a wig and change his name to Jaddy Packson to get him in the squad? He was excellent for Irish this afternoon. 34-6 down at one point and drew.
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CM11 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:41 pm
DOB wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:40 pm
irishrugbyua wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:15 pm He is a 21 year old who is still developing.. Sexton was hardly dominating week in and week out at the same age. He'd be further along if it wasn't for injury, people just need to be patient.
Harry would also be further along if he wasn't competing with Sexton and Ross, (and other potential 10s like Frawley and Hawkshaw), for the shirt. When Sexton broke into the first team he was our first homegrown 10 since Emmett Farrell (I think?) and the other 2 outhalves in the squad were foreign utility players (Felipe and Isa), so even if he hadn't been as good as he eventually turned out, he just had to reach a certain level of competence to get opportunities.
The comparable season for Sexton, at Byrne's current age, is 06/07 when Sexton made 3 appearances for Leinster. The following season Sexton capitalised on D'Arcy's injury as Contepomi played 12 in the league. Even the following season again Sexton was sent back to the AIL to find some form. So it wasn't until the semi final in 09 that Sexton finally came of age. That'd be 2 years for now for Byrne if he went the same route.

If anything Harry is ahead of Sexton with the former already on 19 Leinster caps and Irish squad involvement compared to Sexton's 4 caps and relatively unrated.
Paddy Jackson had started a HEC final at this stage, as a comparison.
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LeinsterLion wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:25 pm Farrell hasn't been afraid to pick lads with little experience or little first choice/European rugby in Irish squads and even in match day teams - look at, for example, Casey, Connors, O'Toole, Keenan, Daly. In the past these sorts of players were rarely picked for Ireland so soon after establishing themselves or with so little European rugby. How often did we hear "needs to prove it in the HEC" to justify playing them? But Keenan was flying for one season of Pro14 rugby (only made his HEC debut in September), Connors the same, Daly similar, Casey is still not first choice for Munster, O'Toole has only started one game for Ulster this season and last season was largely benching as well.

The issue is that (a) he's not trusting those sorts of players in a few key positions, (b) the classic Irish rugby mindset of "playing themselves in to form" attitude to senior players, and (c), most importantly and clearly most relevantly, that he's not picking some of the specific players/young players we all want him to :lol:



(Not that I'm a fan, I hate the way Ireland are playing, the negative play, and I'm still at a loss to what attacking plan he/Catt are trying to implement, but it's just something to bare in mind. That and how many time it's been declared on here for it to be an absolute thundering disgrace for a player to have been left out of a squad, only for them to fade away/turn out to be not that good, actually...)
Hand on heart.. 99 times out of 100 that’s a direct consequence of the relevant coach not doing what the bored has told him to do and the player would have been an all time world class legend if the coach had listened to our wisdom.
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Bogbunny wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:53 pm
CM11 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:41 pm
DOB wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:40 pm
irishrugbyua wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:15 pm He is a 21 year old who is still developing.. Sexton was hardly dominating week in and week out at the same age. He'd be further along if it wasn't for injury, people just need to be patient.
Harry would also be further along if he wasn't competing with Sexton and Ross, (and other potential 10s like Frawley and Hawkshaw), for the shirt. When Sexton broke into the first team he was our first homegrown 10 since Emmett Farrell (I think?) and the other 2 outhalves in the squad were foreign utility players (Felipe and Isa), so even if he hadn't been as good as he eventually turned out, he just had to reach a certain level of competence to get opportunities.
The comparable season for Sexton, at Byrne's current age, is 06/07 when Sexton made 3 appearances for Leinster. The following season Sexton capitalised on D'Arcy's injury as Contepomi played 12 in the league. Even the following season again Sexton was sent back to the AIL to find some form. So it wasn't until the semi final in 09 that Sexton finally came of age. That'd be 2 years for now for Byrne if he went the same route.

If anything Harry is ahead of Sexton with the former already on 19 Leinster caps and Irish squad involvement compared to Sexton's 4 caps and relatively unrated.
Paddy Jackson had started a HEC final at this stage, as a comparison.
And he was competing against Ian Humphreys, so jokes on Leinster
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I feckin' hate the middle game of the Six Nations being Italy.

It's the one game above all others you should be free to have a bit of rotation and instead it's all: "We have to play the senior lads otherwise it's be a month without rugby when we get to round 4"

Would like to see:

Kelleher starting at 2, with the opportunity to play himself into that shirt for Scotland
Tom O'Toole on the bench, Porter can have the time off
Baird on the bench? Although Dillane has got to wonder "what's the point"
Connors at 7, Conan at 8
Casey maybe being allowed to get off his arse? If it's not too much to ask

and most importantly... DA MOVEZ!

seriously - if you can't have a few moves ready to run off first phase possession against Italy then Catt needs sacking.
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Bogbunny wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:53 pm
CM11 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:41 pm
DOB wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:40 pm
irishrugbyua wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:15 pm He is a 21 year old who is still developing.. Sexton was hardly dominating week in and week out at the same age. He'd be further along if it wasn't for injury, people just need to be patient.
Harry would also be further along if he wasn't competing with Sexton and Ross, (and other potential 10s like Frawley and Hawkshaw), for the shirt. When Sexton broke into the first team he was our first homegrown 10 since Emmett Farrell (I think?) and the other 2 outhalves in the squad were foreign utility players (Felipe and Isa), so even if he hadn't been as good as he eventually turned out, he just had to reach a certain level of competence to get opportunities.
The comparable season for Sexton, at Byrne's current age, is 06/07 when Sexton made 3 appearances for Leinster. The following season Sexton capitalised on D'Arcy's injury as Contepomi played 12 in the league. Even the following season again Sexton was sent back to the AIL to find some form. So it wasn't until the semi final in 09 that Sexton finally came of age. That'd be 2 years for now for Byrne if he went the same route.

If anything Harry is ahead of Sexton with the former already on 19 Leinster caps and Irish squad involvement compared to Sexton's 4 caps and relatively unrated.
Paddy Jackson had started a HEC final at this stage, as a comparison.
Ulster pulled him from the U20's iirc, they were so short of a 10. But yes Jackson had played a HEC final, and lost, although the losing of it was nothing to do with him.
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Northern Ireland's Jordan Brown beats Ronnie O'Sullivan to win his 1st major. :nod:
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Willie Falloon wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:09 pm Northern Ireland's Jordan Brown beats Ronnie O'Sullivan to win his 1st major. :nod:
Can he play outhalf?
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Willie Falloon wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:09 pm Northern Ireland's Jordan Brown beats Ronnie O'Sullivan to win his 1st major. :nod:
Another fekkin waster from Antrim with too much time on his hands. :smug: :thumbup:
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Murray Sexton for Italy then.
Let's see if the tired, aging players and gameplan will be enough.
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Ntamack and Jalibert are grizzled veterans.
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I thought Casey was very hot and cold Saturday. Had some nice moments and his attitude is brilliant, but his basics are pretty average. His kicking is not up to snuff and his passing looked ponderous (the latter may have reflected the conditions rather than his skill in fairness). He was also fluffing around at the base of the ruck Conor Murray style on more than a few occasions. I'd honestly say he's 6th best SH in Ireland right now.

Not sure what munster fans are getting so hard about?
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Floppykid wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:22 pm Ntamack and Jalibert are grizzled veterans.
If they are good enough, they are old enough.

Except in Ireland :?
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Willie Falloon wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:09 pm Northern Ireland's Jordan Brown beats Ronnie O'Sullivan to win his 1st major. :nod:
We were watching that all day.
Was bloody good final
He was 750 to 1 before the tournament they said
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Bogbunny wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:25 pm
Floppykid wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:22 pm Ntamack and Jalibert are grizzled veterans.
If they are good enough, they are old enough.

Except in Ireland :?
Need more time, Sexton still has to be played into form, Murray is getting better, he'd be better off playing Pro14 so he's ready to be sexton/Murray's backup at '23
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RWC2015 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:24 pm I thought Casey was very hot and cold Saturday. Had some nice moments and his attitude is brilliant, but his basics are pretty average. His kicking is not up to snuff and his passing looked ponderous (the latter may have reflected the conditions rather than his skill in fairness). He was also fluffing around at the base of the ruck Conor Murray style on more than a few occasions. I'd honestly say he's 6th best SH in Ireland right now.

Not sure what munster fans are getting so hard about?
A bit deep into the weekend for this level of trolling kiddo
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Flametop wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:54 pm Hand on heart.. 99 times out of 100 that’s a direct consequence of the relevant coach not doing what the bored has told him to do and the player would have been an all time world class legend if the coach had listened to our wisdom.
:lol:
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DOB wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:40 pm
irishrugbyua wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:15 pm He is a 21 year old who is still developing.. Sexton was hardly dominating week in and week out at the same age. He'd be further along if it wasn't for injury, people just need to be patient.
Harry would also be further along if he wasn't competing with Sexton and Ross, (and other potential 10s like Frawley and Hawkshaw), for the shirt. When Sexton broke into the first team he was our first homegrown 10 since Emmett Farrell (I think?) and the other 2 outhalves in the squad were foreign utility players (Felipe and Isa), so even if he hadn't been as good as he eventually turned out, he just had to reach a certain level of competence to get opportunities.
If Harry went to Munster, where would he rank right now in terms of JJ, Carberry and Healy? At Connacht, he’d be clear 2nd choice behind Carty. Ulster? Would he be ahead of Burns or Madigan?
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Porterbelly1 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:33 am
DOB wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:40 pm
irishrugbyua wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:15 pm He is a 21 year old who is still developing.. Sexton was hardly dominating week in and week out at the same age. He'd be further along if it wasn't for injury, people just need to be patient.
Harry would also be further along if he wasn't competing with Sexton and Ross, (and other potential 10s like Frawley and Hawkshaw), for the shirt. When Sexton broke into the first team he was our first homegrown 10 since Emmett Farrell (I think?) and the other 2 outhalves in the squad were foreign utility players (Felipe and Isa), so even if he hadn't been as good as he eventually turned out, he just had to reach a certain level of competence to get opportunities.
If Harry went to Munster, where would he rank right now in terms of JJ, Carberry and Healy? At Connacht, he’d be clear 2nd choice behind Carty. Ulster? Would he be ahead of Burns or Madigan?
All of that is hypothetical. If he left Leinster, though, he wouldn’t be training week in, week out with a former World player of the year.
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DOB wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:32 am
Porterbelly1 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:33 am
DOB wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:40 pm
irishrugbyua wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:15 pm He is a 21 year old who is still developing.. Sexton was hardly dominating week in and week out at the same age. He'd be further along if it wasn't for injury, people just need to be patient.
Harry would also be further along if he wasn't competing with Sexton and Ross, (and other potential 10s like Frawley and Hawkshaw), for the shirt. When Sexton broke into the first team he was our first homegrown 10 since Emmett Farrell (I think?) and the other 2 outhalves in the squad were foreign utility players (Felipe and Isa), so even if he hadn't been as good as he eventually turned out, he just had to reach a certain level of competence to get opportunities.
If Harry went to Munster, where would he rank right now in terms of JJ, Carberry and Healy? At Connacht, he’d be clear 2nd choice behind Carty. Ulster? Would he be ahead of Burns or Madigan?
All of that is hypothetical. If he left Leinster, though, he wouldn’t be training week in, week out with a former World player of the year.
Hopefully Farrell will acknowledge that and start picking his squad based on Leinster training.
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Porterbelly1 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:08 am
DOB wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:32 am
Porterbelly1 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:33 am
DOB wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:40 pm
irishrugbyua wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:15 pm He is a 21 year old who is still developing.. Sexton was hardly dominating week in and week out at the same age. He'd be further along if it wasn't for injury, people just need to be patient.
Harry would also be further along if he wasn't competing with Sexton and Ross, (and other potential 10s like Frawley and Hawkshaw), for the shirt. When Sexton broke into the first team he was our first homegrown 10 since Emmett Farrell (I think?) and the other 2 outhalves in the squad were foreign utility players (Felipe and Isa), so even if he hadn't been as good as he eventually turned out, he just had to reach a certain level of competence to get opportunities.
If Harry went to Munster, where would he rank right now in terms of JJ, Carberry and Healy? At Connacht, he’d be clear 2nd choice behind Carty. Ulster? Would he be ahead of Burns or Madigan?
All of that is hypothetical. If he left Leinster, though, he wouldn’t be training week in, week out with a former World player of the year.
Hopefully Farrell will acknowledge that and start picking his squad based on Leinster training.
He already is, why else would Ed Byrne be there?
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earl the beaver wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:11 am
Porterbelly1 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:08 am Hopefully Farrell will acknowledge that and start picking his squad based on Leinster training.
He already is, why else would Ed Byrne be there?
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Both of you :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Bogbunny wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:25 pm
Floppykid wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:22 pm Ntamack and Jalibert are grizzled veterans.
If they are good enough, they are old enough.

Except in Ireland where you have to be old enough for us to even think about finding out if you're good enough
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Yer Man wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:26 am
Bogbunny wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:25 pm
Floppykid wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:22 pm Ntamack and Jalibert are grizzled veterans.
If they are good enough, they are old enough.

Except in Ireland where you have to be old enough for us to even think about finding out if you're good enough
fixed.
Very good. Very true
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earl the beaver wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:11 am
Porterbelly1 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:08 am
DOB wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:32 am
Porterbelly1 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:33 am
DOB wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:40 pm

Harry would also be further along if he wasn't competing with Sexton and Ross, (and other potential 10s like Frawley and Hawkshaw), for the shirt. When Sexton broke into the first team he was our first homegrown 10 since Emmett Farrell (I think?) and the other 2 outhalves in the squad were foreign utility players (Felipe and Isa), so even if he hadn't been as good as he eventually turned out, he just had to reach a certain level of competence to get opportunities.
If Harry went to Munster, where would he rank right now in terms of JJ, Carberry and Healy? At Connacht, he’d be clear 2nd choice behind Carty. Ulster? Would he be ahead of Burns or Madigan?
All of that is hypothetical. If he left Leinster, though, he wouldn’t be training week in, week out with a former World player of the year.
Hopefully Farrell will acknowledge that and start picking his squad based on Leinster training.
He already is, why else would Ed Byrne be there?
Tbf if he was picking his squad based on Leinster training he’d probably go for Peter Dooley. The whole “third choice loosehead” debate isn’t really getting much traction though is it? We’ve a few options behind Killer and Healy, you can argue the toss but none of them will be pulling up trees at test level
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Porterbelly1 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:33 am
DOB wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:40 pm
irishrugbyua wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:15 pm He is a 21 year old who is still developing.. Sexton was hardly dominating week in and week out at the same age. He'd be further along if it wasn't for injury, people just need to be patient.
Harry would also be further along if he wasn't competing with Sexton and Ross, (and other potential 10s like Frawley and Hawkshaw), for the shirt. When Sexton broke into the first team he was our first homegrown 10 since Emmett Farrell (I think?) and the other 2 outhalves in the squad were foreign utility players (Felipe and Isa), so even if he hadn't been as good as he eventually turned out, he just had to reach a certain level of competence to get opportunities.
If Harry went to Munster, where would he rank right now in terms of JJ, Carberry and Healy? At Connacht, he’d be clear 2nd choice behind Carty. Ulster? Would he be ahead of Burns or Madigan?
There is an argument that he should be first choice no matter the province, including Leinster but you are correct that he wouldn't be guaranteed first choice anywhere else. Doesn't negate the fact that competition for the 10 shirt at Leinster is greater now than possibly it's ever been.

At least Sexton doesn't feature that much nowadays and the coaches have shown that they are willing to pick him ahead of his older brother occasionally.
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Conspicuous wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:26 am
earl the beaver wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:11 am
Porterbelly1 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:08 am
DOB wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:32 am
Porterbelly1 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:33 am

If Harry went to Munster, where would he rank right now in terms of JJ, Carberry and Healy? At Connacht, he’d be clear 2nd choice behind Carty. Ulster? Would he be ahead of Burns or Madigan?
All of that is hypothetical. If he left Leinster, though, he wouldn’t be training week in, week out with a former World player of the year.
Hopefully Farrell will acknowledge that and start picking his squad based on Leinster training.
He already is, why else would Ed Byrne be there?
Tbf if he was picking his squad based on Leinster training he’d probably go for Peter Dooley. The whole “third choice loosehead” debate isn’t really getting much traction though is it? We’ve a few options behind Killer and Healy, you can argue the toss but none of them will be pulling up trees at test level
Ed Byrne is Earl's latest crusade. It's preemptive rage ahead of Jack McGrath being fit again.
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Nah, it already related to Eric O'Sullivan.

But tbf, it is slightly odd as Dooley has far more time this season so even from a Leinster POV he's 3rd choice.
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hermie wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:30 am
Conspicuous wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:26 am
earl the beaver wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:11 am
Porterbelly1 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:08 am
DOB wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:32 am

All of that is hypothetical. If he left Leinster, though, he wouldn’t be training week in, week out with a former World player of the year.
Hopefully Farrell will acknowledge that and start picking his squad based on Leinster training.
He already is, why else would Ed Byrne be there?
Tbf if he was picking his squad based on Leinster training he’d probably go for Peter Dooley. The whole “third choice loosehead” debate isn’t really getting much traction though is it? We’ve a few options behind Killer and Healy, you can argue the toss but none of them will be pulling up trees at test level
Ed Byrne is Earl's latest crusade. It's preemptive rage ahead of Jack McGrath being fit again.
It's pretty funny to see him get behind the Dawg too after years of lambasting him.
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CM11 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:32 am Nah, it already related to Eric O'Sullivan.

But tbf, it is slightly odd as Dooley has far more time this season so even from a Leinster POV he's 3rd choice.
It's not that odd. Farrell doesn't pick on form. You can see that in a host of selections
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hermie wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:34 am
CM11 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:32 am Nah, it already related to Eric O'Sullivan.

But tbf, it is slightly odd as Dooley has far more time this season so even from a Leinster POV he's 3rd choice.
It's not that odd. Farrell doesn't pick on form. You can see that in a host of selections
He mostly does. And when he doesn't it is pretty much all established figures.
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Harry Byrne shouldn't be in contention for the Irish squad as long as he's behind the likes of Ross Byrne for Leinster. If he wants the international selection that the hype/media calls for, he's needs to be backed by Cullen.
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hermie wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:30 am
Conspicuous wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:26 am
earl the beaver wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:11 am
Porterbelly1 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:08 am
DOB wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:32 am

All of that is hypothetical. If he left Leinster, though, he wouldn’t be training week in, week out with a former World player of the year.
Hopefully Farrell will acknowledge that and start picking his squad based on Leinster training.
He already is, why else would Ed Byrne be there?
Tbf if he was picking his squad based on Leinster training he’d probably go for Peter Dooley. The whole “third choice loosehead” debate isn’t really getting much traction though is it? We’ve a few options behind Killer and Healy, you can argue the toss but none of them will be pulling up trees at test level
Ed Byrne is Earl's latest crusade. It's preemptive rage ahead of Jack McGrath being fit again.
Ed Byrne would be 3rd/4th choice for Munster at loosehead.
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feckwanker wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:33 am
hermie wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:30 am
Conspicuous wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:26 am
earl the beaver wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:11 am
Porterbelly1 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:08 am

Hopefully Farrell will acknowledge that and start picking his squad based on Leinster training.
He already is, why else would Ed Byrne be there?
Tbf if he was picking his squad based on Leinster training he’d probably go for Peter Dooley. The whole “third choice loosehead” debate isn’t really getting much traction though is it? We’ve a few options behind Killer and Healy, you can argue the toss but none of them will be pulling up trees at test level
Ed Byrne is Earl's latest crusade. It's preemptive rage ahead of Jack McGrath being fit again.
It's pretty funny to see him get behind the Dawg too after years of lambasting him.
Where?

I don't think he's good enough for Ulster and I'm fully behind Burns being ahead of him.

Why do people feel the need to make shit up?
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hermie wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:30 am
Conspicuous wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:26 am
earl the beaver wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:11 am
Porterbelly1 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:08 am
DOB wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:32 am

All of that is hypothetical. If he left Leinster, though, he wouldn’t be training week in, week out with a former World player of the year.
Hopefully Farrell will acknowledge that and start picking his squad based on Leinster training.
He already is, why else would Ed Byrne be there?
Tbf if he was picking his squad based on Leinster training he’d probably go for Peter Dooley. The whole “third choice loosehead” debate isn’t really getting much traction though is it? We’ve a few options behind Killer and Healy, you can argue the toss but none of them will be pulling up trees at test level
Ed Byrne is Earl's latest crusade. It's preemptive rage ahead of Jack McGrath being fit again.
Ed Byrne is an average Pro14 player, I am baffled as to how he is selected ahead of EOS
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Jumper wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:43 am
hermie wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:30 am
Conspicuous wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:26 am
earl the beaver wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:11 am
Porterbelly1 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:08 am

Hopefully Farrell will acknowledge that and start picking his squad based on Leinster training.
He already is, why else would Ed Byrne be there?
Tbf if he was picking his squad based on Leinster training he’d probably go for Peter Dooley. The whole “third choice loosehead” debate isn’t really getting much traction though is it? We’ve a few options behind Killer and Healy, you can argue the toss but none of them will be pulling up trees at test level
Ed Byrne is Earl's latest crusade. It's preemptive rage ahead of Jack McGrath being fit again.
Ed Byrne would be 3rd/4th choice for Munster at loosehead.
Remind me again what happened on 23rd January when Ed Byrne was in the Leinster 23 ?
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