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Leinster in London wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:21 pm
RWC2015 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:09 pm
Conspicuous wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:29 pm
Floppykid wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:52 pm Despite being a bit Shakey, I hope Larmours brace over the weekend helps get him back on track. Second try in particular was brilliantly finished.
Keenan was class, missed tackle aside. I was completely wrong about him initially.
You weren’t alone tbf , there was a lot of nonsense being talked about how average and limited Hugo was . He’s a class act and will continue to improve
The one thing he didn't do so well in the 6 nations was join the line at pace, draw and pass to his winger, but he did that brilliantly yesterday. He's pure class.
That sounds like the difference between Lancaster and Farrell.
Or his six nations experience and video review meant he didn't make the same mistake again.
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Should have 2 Irish teams in the finals, both have tough away games though so need to be 100% focused or they'll slip up.
Looking forward to Henshaw Vs Botia, that'll be a massive clash.
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Leinster in London wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:21 pm
RWC2015 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:09 pm
Conspicuous wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:29 pm
Floppykid wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:52 pm Despite being a bit Shakey, I hope Larmours brace over the weekend helps get him back on track. Second try in particular was brilliantly finished.
Keenan was class, missed tackle aside. I was completely wrong about him initially.
You weren’t alone tbf , there was a lot of nonsense being talked about how average and limited Hugo was . He’s a class act and will continue to improve
The one thing he didn't do so well in the 6 nations was join the line at pace, draw and pass to his winger, but he did that brilliantly yesterday. He's pure class.
That sounds like the difference between Lancaster and Farrell.
Or the difference between international and HEC.
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I didn't actually realise the first things Ross Byrne did on the pitch were fire out that pass leading to the try and then kick a touch line conversion. We know his limitations but the guy has serious stones.
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Gavin Duffy wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:38 pm Hmmmm more exemptions coming? https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 00909.html
They might fudge it by arguing the French players will essentially be in a quarantine bubble. Hopefully allow Leinster the same latitude.

I suppose that doesn't quite deal with the games though.
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Mr. Very Popular wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:25 pm
Leinster in London wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:21 pm
RWC2015 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:09 pm
Conspicuous wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:29 pm
Floppykid wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:52 pm Despite being a bit Shakey, I hope Larmours brace over the weekend helps get him back on track. Second try in particular was brilliantly finished.
Keenan was class, missed tackle aside. I was completely wrong about him initially.
You weren’t alone tbf , there was a lot of nonsense being talked about how average and limited Hugo was . He’s a class act and will continue to improve
The one thing he didn't do so well in the 6 nations was join the line at pace, draw and pass to his winger, but he did that brilliantly yesterday. He's pure class.
That sounds like the difference between Lancaster and Farrell.
Or the difference between international and HEC.
Keenan needs to straighten the line more. There’s no point in running your winger into touch, though he was better for Leinster.
But I think it’s not unfair to say that Hogg is off the plane and Keenan will be a test starter.
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CM11 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:45 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:38 pm Hmmmm more exemptions coming? https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 00909.html
They might fudge it by arguing the French players will essentially be in a quarantine bubble. Hopefully allow Leinster the same latitude.

I suppose that doesn't quite deal with the games though.
When is the final? If it's 3 weeks or more after the semi, it won't be a huge problem, only issue would be the squad not being able to train together.
And, there's plenty of evidence of French teams not exactly sticking to the bubble.
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Mr. Very Popular wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:57 pm
CM11 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:45 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:38 pm Hmmmm more exemptions coming? https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 00909.html
They might fudge it by arguing the French players will essentially be in a quarantine bubble. Hopefully allow Leinster the same latitude.

I suppose that doesn't quite deal with the games though.
When is the final? If it's 3 weeks or more after the semi, it won't be a huge problem, only issue would be the squad not being able to train together.
And, there's plenty of evidence of French teams not exactly sticking to the bubble.
It's 3 weeks after the SF.
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Mr. Very Popular wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:25 pm
Leinster in London wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:21 pm
RWC2015 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:09 pm
Conspicuous wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:29 pm
Floppykid wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:52 pm Despite being a bit Shakey, I hope Larmours brace over the weekend helps get him back on track. Second try in particular was brilliantly finished.
Keenan was class, missed tackle aside. I was completely wrong about him initially.
You weren’t alone tbf , there was a lot of nonsense being talked about how average and limited Hugo was . He’s a class act and will continue to improve
The one thing he didn't do so well in the 6 nations was join the line at pace, draw and pass to his winger, but he did that brilliantly yesterday. He's pure class.
That sounds like the difference between Lancaster and Farrell.
Or the difference between international and HEC.
Seems to be overexaggerated a lot. Japan showed at the last WC that playing at pace and attacking rugby can work at the highest level.
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Flametop wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:52 pm
Mr. Very Popular wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:25 pm
Leinster in London wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:21 pm
RWC2015 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:09 pm
Conspicuous wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:29 pm

You weren’t alone tbf , there was a lot of nonsense being talked about how average and limited Hugo was . He’s a class act and will continue to improve
The one thing he didn't do so well in the 6 nations was join the line at pace, draw and pass to his winger, but he did that brilliantly yesterday. He's pure class.
That sounds like the difference between Lancaster and Farrell.
Or the difference between international and HEC.
Keenan needs to straighten the line more. There’s no point in running your winger into touch, though he was better for Leinster.
But I think it’s not unfair to say that Hogg is off the plane and Keenan will be a test starter.
I think he has a natural 7s-like arc, where he joins the line and kind of goes for an outside break. In 7s that's fine with a lot more space to attack, but in 15s it can just allow the whole defence to drift. He was still doing the good part of that yesterday (the pace, and the accurate pass) but was also drawing the defender a bit better (second try). And his offload for the first try was absolutely sumptuous. Really reminded me of the Coles offload when the ABs mugged us in LR. He actually got a little spin on the ball. Just perfection.
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danthefan wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:28 pm I didn't actually realise the first things Ross Byrne did on the pitch were fire out that pass leading to the try and then kick a touch line conversion. We know his limitations but the guy has serious stones.
I thought Byrne had a bit of a coming of age game yesterday, really good game from him.
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danthefan wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:21 pm Watching the match again and at the bit where Sexton goes off. There's no sign of a head knock on the footage that I can see...
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MunsterMan!!!!! wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:46 pm
danthefan wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:28 pm I didn't actually realise the first things Ross Byrne did on the pitch were fire out that pass leading to the try and then kick a touch line conversion. We know his limitations but the guy has serious stones.
I thought Byrne had a bit of a coming of age game yesterday, really good game from him.
He put in a whopper dump tackle (for a 10) at one point to let one of the pack latch on to the ball and win penalty.
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danthefan wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:53 am https://twitter.com/ek_rugby/status/138 ... 91781?s=19

That is such a nice pass from Byrne, forces Keenan to take it at full pace. Thought he might have crabbed a bit too much but everything is happening at such speed there's still an opportunity to score out wide, worse passing and no try.
Atrocious pass by Luke to start it off with though
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Gavin Duffy wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:19 pm Ladies game against france in doubt now. https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/56709569
Does anyone really care?
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Nolanator wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:54 pm
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:46 pm
danthefan wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:28 pm I didn't actually realise the first things Ross Byrne did on the pitch were fire out that pass leading to the try and then kick a touch line conversion. We know his limitations but the guy has serious stones.
I thought Byrne had a bit of a coming of age game yesterday, really good game from him.
He put in a whopper dump tackle (for a 10) at one point to let one of the pack latch on to the ball and win penalty.
He had a few great moments in defense, some surprisingly strong tackles and good shepherding too.

He looked really good in attack too, coming of age game is right
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MunsterMan!!!!! wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:46 pm
danthefan wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:28 pm I didn't actually realise the first things Ross Byrne did on the pitch were fire out that pass leading to the try and then kick a touch line conversion. We know his limitations but the guy has serious stones.
I thought Byrne had a bit of a coming of age game yesterday, really good game from him.
Don't think so really, he has played loads of Euro rugby and Pro 14 knockouts. Played the Ulster QF where Leinster were under serious pressure and kicked a vital penalty on basically one leg. He plays like that in every game for Leinster, doesn't really matter who against.
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Nolanator wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:53 pm
danthefan wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:21 pm Watching the match again and at the bit where Sexton goes off. There's no sign of a head knock on the footage that I can see...
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I got it off ATT
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PornDog wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:01 pm
danthefan wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:53 am https://twitter.com/ek_rugby/status/138 ... 91781?s=19

That is such a nice pass from Byrne, forces Keenan to take it at full pace. Thought he might have crabbed a bit too much but everything is happening at such speed there's still an opportunity to score out wide, worse passing and no try.
Atrocious pass by Luke to start it off with though
Yeah, it's a poor pass making him jump but Henshaw is deep enough that even with that there's no real risk of him getting hit but a blitzing defence.
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danthefan wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:29 pm
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:46 pm
danthefan wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:28 pm I didn't actually realise the first things Ross Byrne did on the pitch were fire out that pass leading to the try and then kick a touch line conversion. We know his limitations but the guy has serious stones.
I thought Byrne had a bit of a coming of age game yesterday, really good game from him.
Don't think so really, he has played loads of Euro rugby and Pro 14 knockouts. Played the Ulster QF where Leinster were under serious pressure and kicked a vital penalty on basically one leg. He plays like that in every game for Leinster, doesn't really matter who against.
no doubting his experience and he's played very well in the past but yesterday seemed like a step up for him which is great to see.
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Whatever lads, he's no Billy Burns
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danthefan wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:29 pm
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:46 pm
danthefan wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:28 pm I didn't actually realise the first things Ross Byrne did on the pitch were fire out that pass leading to the try and then kick a touch line conversion. We know his limitations but the guy has serious stones.
I thought Byrne had a bit of a coming of age game yesterday, really good game from him.
Don't think so really, he has played loads of Euro rugby and Pro 14 knockouts. Played the Ulster QF where Leinster were under serious pressure and kicked a vital penalty on basically one leg. He plays like that in every game for Leinster, doesn't really matter who against.
I thought he bossed it though, moreso than any other big match (that I can remember)
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MunsterMan!!!!! wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:44 pm
danthefan wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:29 pm
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:46 pm
danthefan wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:28 pm I didn't actually realise the first things Ross Byrne did on the pitch were fire out that pass leading to the try and then kick a touch line conversion. We know his limitations but the guy has serious stones.
I thought Byrne had a bit of a coming of age game yesterday, really good game from him.
Don't think so really, he has played loads of Euro rugby and Pro 14 knockouts. Played the Ulster QF where Leinster were under serious pressure and kicked a vital penalty on basically one leg. He plays like that in every game for Leinster, doesn't really matter who against.
I thought he bossed it though, moreso than any other big match (that I can remember)
100%, When he came on Leinster were on the ropes big time. He came in took charge and steered the ship.

Wouldnt be a huge RB fan, but he earned his plaudits yesterday
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I guess what I'm saying is he was very good but he wasn't particularly better than I'd expect to see, he does what he does.
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PornDog wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:01 pm
danthefan wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:53 am https://twitter.com/ek_rugby/status/138 ... 91781?s=19

That is such a nice pass from Byrne, forces Keenan to take it at full pace. Thought he might have crabbed a bit too much but everything is happening at such speed there's still an opportunity to score out wide, worse passing and no try.
Atrocious pass by Luke to start it off with though
Conversely, a great pass for Larmour's second.
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"It's ROG v Leinster, he'll know them so well" etc

Have people completely forgotten Jono Gibbes is the DoR and he used to coach Leinster?
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For Larmour's second have a look at Baird, he steals the lineout and he's the first carry from the ensuing ruck, some serious athleticism from him.
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danthefan wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:50 pm "It's ROG v Leinster, he'll know them so well" etc

Have people completely forgotten Jono Gibbes is the DoR and he used to coach Leinster?
I didn’t so much forget, as it’s just not been mentioned so I didn’t have a clue.
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Speed of pass is much more important than extreme accuracy. Getting the pass out there around where the player is, will, more times than not, end up with lots of ground made as opposed to setting yourself, looking at the ball on the ground, looking at your receiver, looking at the ball on the ground again, looking at your receiver again, picking the ball up and sending an inch perfect pass that arrives with a 7 attached.
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camroc1 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:14 pm Speed of pass is much more important than extreme accuracy. Getting the pass out there around where the player is, will, more times than not, end up with lots of ground made as opposed to setting yourself, looking at the ball on the ground, looking at your receiver, looking at the ball on the ground again, looking at your receiver again, picking the ball up and sending an inch perfect pass that arrives with a 7 attached.
Absolutely.

The very top notch 9s assess as they arrive and put in a good pass for the attack to run on to with very little delay. Unfortunately very few can manage this.
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camroc1 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:14 pm Speed of pass is much more important than extreme accuracy. Getting the pass out there around where the player is, will, more times than not, end up with lots of ground made as opposed to setting yourself, looking at the ball on the ground, looking at your receiver, looking at the ball on the ground again, looking at your receiver again, picking the ball up and sending an inch perfect pass that arrives with a 7 attached.
So are you going to say that this is what happens for McGrath on that pass to Henshaw :lol:

Dear God, someone said he made a poor pass, it happens, he had other good passes, don't try and spin that it was good
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camroc1 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:14 pm Speed of pass is much more important than extreme accuracy. Getting the pass out there around where the player is, will, more times than not, end up with lots of ground made as opposed to setting yourself, looking at the ball on the ground, looking at your receiver, looking at the ball on the ground again, looking at your receiver again, picking the ball up and sending an inch perfect pass that arrives with a 7 attached.
When talking about scrum half, speed of making the pass is most important. You can have the zippiest bullet out of the hands you want, but it’s useless if you wait for the defense to line up before you dig the ball out and deliver it; that ball will still have a 7 attached. The best 9s in the game now don’t wait for the ruck to end before getting the ball away. That way the defenders are still backpedaling when the pass is halfway to the receiver, and it’s a lot easier to straighten the line.

Further out, timing and angles of running are most important, with the proviso that the player inside you is able to make the pass you’re asking of them.
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Nolanator wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:53 pm
danthefan wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:21 pm Watching the match again and at the bit where Sexton goes off. There's no sign of a head knock on the footage that I can see...
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My friend says it's here - obviously no good to you, but your friend might be a man of lesser morals and enjoy the link.
https://fullmatchtv.com/other-sports/ru ... 0-04-2021/
Definitely needs ad blockers etc he says.

He says FullMatchTV can be a great resource for various games - just not always reliable and not usually that quickly. So he says it is worth it for a look back, but one shouldn't depend on it if one has been avoiding a result, ATT is still quicker and better quality according to him.

Lastly, he advises that your friend should always go directly to https://fullmatchtv.com/rugby/ or google "fullmatchtv" and go to the rugby result, rather to the home page - a few times on their site's front page he's had to stop redirects to other sites, but never on the sport specific page.
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Cullen in the IT:
“I can’t speak specifically but generally hopefully a good chunk of the guys who are injured will be back for our next game against Munster in round one of the Rainbow Cup. It’ll be a case by case basis, but definitely we’ll have a few of them back.”
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Ulsters Red Hand wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:33 pm Whatever lads, he's no Billy Burns
So long as he's the best version of himself.
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