Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:49 pm
Ryan has to start.
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Yeah surprised at Shaggy.. I suppose he's still too close to the squad to be completely objective, he was good otherwise I thought (good for ATH that is)danthefan wrote:Think there was a stat given on Off The Ball last night, Ireland have won one of the last 20 games in Paris. And professional pundits are tipping us to go there and winLuckycharmer wrote:Program was embarassing was it Frankie who predicted a grand slam and the only one with realistic expectations was brendan fanning- 2 said we will win in Paris.Zola wrote:DOC shouldn't be on the bench let alone starting, had to laugh at Frankie on ATH bigging up his performance vs Northampton. One passable game at HC level doesn't excuse half a season of bench warming.
Tuhoy covers 6 better too.
well recognised as our stand out forward that nightDespot wrote:MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:I would be seriously pissed off if DOC was starting, Ryan has been playing some great stuff of late, I would have gave him MOM for the saints game and he even was playing out of position. It is not as if Ryan is inexperienced either, wtf, like!!!!
Havent seen anyone say anything other that Ryan starting. Debate is about bench cover- DOC v Touhy. Touhy didnt really deliver against the saxons, and DOC played himself back into contention against the saints. Take your pick. Im in the DOC camp, but wouldnt be upset either way.
I suppose Brian McLoughlin, a forwards coach, should be credited for allowing a player to take conrrol of his pack mod-season? After that he just became a fat press secretary to announce team sheets. The man couldn't even tell betwen Kidneys training squad and his 6 Nations squad. That sort of ignorance may well land him a punditry job though. Or if he drinks he could take up the pen.Lenny wrote:I thought your comment about BMcL was actually more indicative of your moronic tendencies than the one about DOC. However given what DOC has contributed to Munster and Ireland over the past 10 years your comment about him is f**king stupid as well.massivepr1ck wrote:If you enjoy the prospect of lumbering oafs gaining any form of credit for sitting on benches and contributing absolutely nothing then I can understand where you are coming from.Lenny wrote:It seems you've chosen a highly appropriate name for yourself.massivepr1ck wrote:Good riddance BMcL,
Fcuk off DOC
Zodiac wrote:Fanning seems like a top pundit tbf.
Zola wrote:Yeah surprised at Shaggy.. I suppose he's still too close to the squad to be completely objective, he was good otherwise I thought (good for ATH that is)danthefan wrote:Think there was a stat given on Off The Ball last night, Ireland have won one of the last 20 games in Paris. And professional pundits are tipping us to go there and winLuckycharmer wrote:Program was embarassing was it Frankie who predicted a grand slam and the only one with realistic expectations was brendan fanning- 2 said we will win in Paris.Zola wrote:DOC shouldn't be on the bench let alone starting, had to laugh at Frankie on ATH bigging up his performance vs Northampton. One passable game at HC level doesn't excuse half a season of bench warming.
Tuhoy covers 6 better too.
Luckycharmer wrote:Zola wrote:Yeah surprised at Shaggy.. I suppose he's still too close to the squad to be completely objective, he was good otherwise I thought (good for ATH that is)danthefan wrote:Think there was a stat given on Off The Ball last night, Ireland have won one of the last 20 games in Paris. And professional pundits are tipping us to go there and winLuckycharmer wrote:Program was embarassing was it Frankie who predicted a grand slam and the only one with realistic expectations was brendan fanning- 2 said we will win in Paris.Zola wrote:DOC shouldn't be on the bench let alone starting, had to laugh at Frankie on ATH bigging up his performance vs Northampton. One passable game at HC level doesn't excuse half a season of bench warming.
Tuhoy covers 6 better too.
I think he is far too close to the Team to critcise for example he would not commit to saying that our Attack was pretty woeful during the RWC - only one I found reasonably objective was brendan fanning.
Read a piece in the ST where O'Reilly was making the case for Earls at 13
sparky101 wrote:Im spack boys!
Frankie's wife shouldn't let him out of the house, never mind on tv.Luckycharmer wrote:Program was embarassing was it Frankie who predicted a grand slam and the only one with realistic expectations was brendan fanning- 2 said we will win in Paris.Zola wrote:DOC shouldn't be on the bench let alone starting, had to laugh at Frankie on ATH bigging up his performance vs Northampton. One passable game at HC level doesn't excuse half a season of bench warming.
Tuhoy covers 6 better too.
Well, that's one way to do it.Magua wrote:Time to make an apperance
Congratulations, now fudge off.Magua wrote:Time to make an apperance
Lol, good to see the standard welcome has not changed, now try harderArmchair_Superstar wrote:Congratulations, now fudge off.Magua wrote:Time to make an apperance
My cousin (a former team mate of Tommy at Royal School Armagh) is best friends with a close friend to Tommy. Let me just say this, if Tommy isn't allowed to sign for Ulster he won't be a happy bunny. Tommy knows where his routes are, thats all I'm gonna say.iRich wrote:On the Bowe thing people got about over excited because Frankie on Against The Head seemed to assume that Bowe was going to go to Munster over Ulster. We don't know for certain if this the case or not though. I reckon it could be a case of Frankie just guessingpiaras wrote:Strange enough about McLoughlin but there is obviously more to the story than meets the eye. Thought Bowe to Munster was almost a done deal as well but obviously not. Interesting times ahead.
Not sure they're the same ones you're talking about Willie! Good to see you!Willie Falloon wrote:My cousin (a former team mate of Tommy at Royal School Armagh) is best friends with a close friend to Tommy. Let me just say this, if Tommy isn't allowed to sign for Ulster he won't be a happy bunny. Tommy knows where his routes are, thats all I'm gonna say.iRich wrote:On the Bowe thing people got about over excited because Frankie on Against The Head seemed to assume that Bowe was going to go to Munster over Ulster. We don't know for certain if this the case or not though. I reckon it could be a case of Frankie just guessingpiaras wrote:Strange enough about McLoughlin but there is obviously more to the story than meets the eye. Thought Bowe to Munster was almost a done deal as well but obviously not. Interesting times ahead.
Didn't realise he was so worried about marching.Willie Falloon wrote:My cousin (a former team mate of Tommy at Royal School Armagh) is best friends with a close friend to Tommy. Let me just say this, if Tommy isn't allowed to sign for Ulster he won't be a happy bunny. Tommy knows where his routes are, thats all I'm gonna say.iRich wrote:On the Bowe thing people got about over excited because Frankie on Against The Head seemed to assume that Bowe was going to go to Munster over Ulster. We don't know for certain if this the case or not though. I reckon it could be a case of Frankie just guessingpiaras wrote:Strange enough about McLoughlin but there is obviously more to the story than meets the eye. Thought Bowe to Munster was almost a done deal as well but obviously not. Interesting times ahead.
Luckycharmer wrote:On another note I see the Under 20's team has been announced - who are the new players to look out for. I see Luke mcgrath only makes the bench- are our pack big enough?
I see Munster are still making fantastic contributions to Irish underage rugby with only 2 starters less then any other Province
The Ireland Under-20 team (Sponsored by PwC) has been named today by Head Coach Mike Ruddock for this Friday's opening game in the Under-20 RBS Six Nations Championship against Wales, in Dubarry Park, Athlone.
Ruddock has named an experienced side with seven players from last year's squad included in the starting XV to play Wales.Buccaneers own Daniel Qualter will partner up with Iain Henderson in the second row while fellow Connacht native Aaron Conneely is named in the back row.
Centre JJ Hanarahan makes a return to the side from last year along with Sam Coghlan-Murray who has been named on the wing.
Kieran Marmion will take up the scrum half position and will partner Paddy Jackson who has been named at outhalf. Jackson will also captain this year's side.
Speaking ahead of the opening game Ruddock said "We are all looking forward to the start of the 6 Nations. It is always a tough test against Wales but preparations have been first class and we are confident we have prepared as best as we can and are now looking forward to transferring that training onto the pitch itself."
Ireland U-20 v Wales U-20 (Dubarry Park, Athlone - Friday 3rd February 2012, Kick-off 7.05pm)
15 - Shane Layden (Buccaneers - Connacht)
14 - Barry Daly (UCD - Leinster)
13 - Foster Horan (Lansdowne - Leinster)
12 - JJ Hanrahan (UL Bohemians - Munster)
11 - Sam Coghlan-Murray (UCD - Leinster)
10 - Patrick Jackson (Dungannon - Ulster) Captain
9 - Kieran Marmion (Corinthians - Connacht)
1 - Kyle McCall (Ballynahinch - Ulster)
2 - Niall Scannell (Dolphin - Munster)
3 - Peter Reilly (Lansdowne - Leinster)
4 - Iain Henderson (QUB - Ulster)
5 - Daniel Qualter (Buccaneers - Connacht)
6 - Conor Gilsenan (UCD - Leinster)
7 - Aaron Conneely (Corinthians - Connacht)
8 - Jack Conan (Old Belvedere - Leinster)
Replacements:
16 - Des Merrey (Clontarf - Leinster)
17 - James Rael (Garryowen - Munster)
18 - Jake Cawley (XXX - Leinster)
19 - Tadgh Beirne (Lansdowne - Leinster)
20 - Jordan Coghlan (UCD - Leinster)
21 - Luke McGrath (UCD - Leinster)
22 - Cathal Marsh (Dublin University - Leinster)
23 - Christopher Farrell (Dungannon - Ulster)
Have you ever seen Layden play?Willie Falloon wrote:Luckycharmer wrote:On another note I see the Under 20's team has been announced - who are the new players to look out for. I see Luke mcgrath only makes the bench- are our pack big enough?
I see Munster are still making fantastic contributions to Irish underage rugby with only 2 starters less then any other Province
The Ireland Under-20 team (Sponsored by PwC) has been named today by Head Coach Mike Ruddock for this Friday's opening game in the Under-20 RBS Six Nations Championship against Wales, in Dubarry Park, Athlone.
Ruddock has named an experienced side with seven players from last year's squad included in the starting XV to play Wales.Buccaneers own Daniel Qualter will partner up with Iain Henderson in the second row while fellow Connacht native Aaron Conneely is named in the back row.
Centre JJ Hanarahan makes a return to the side from last year along with Sam Coghlan-Murray who has been named on the wing.
Kieran Marmion will take up the scrum half position and will partner Paddy Jackson who has been named at outhalf. Jackson will also captain this year's side.
Speaking ahead of the opening game Ruddock said "We are all looking forward to the start of the 6 Nations. It is always a tough test against Wales but preparations have been first class and we are confident we have prepared as best as we can and are now looking forward to transferring that training onto the pitch itself."
Ireland U-20 v Wales U-20 (Dubarry Park, Athlone - Friday 3rd February 2012, Kick-off 7.05pm)
15 - Shane Layden (Buccaneers - Connacht)
14 - Barry Daly (UCD - Leinster)
13 - Foster Horan (Lansdowne - Leinster)
12 - JJ Hanrahan (UL Bohemians - Munster)
11 - Sam Coghlan-Murray (UCD - Leinster)
10 - Patrick Jackson (Dungannon - Ulster) Captain
9 - Kieran Marmion (Corinthians - Connacht)
1 - Kyle McCall (Ballynahinch - Ulster)
2 - Niall Scannell (Dolphin - Munster)
3 - Peter Reilly (Lansdowne - Leinster)
4 - Iain Henderson (QUB - Ulster)
5 - Daniel Qualter (Buccaneers - Connacht)
6 - Conor Gilsenan (UCD - Leinster)
7 - Aaron Conneely (Corinthians - Connacht)
8 - Jack Conan (Old Belvedere - Leinster)
Replacements:
16 - Des Merrey (Clontarf - Leinster)
17 - James Rael (Garryowen - Munster)
18 - Jake Cawley (XXX - Leinster)
19 - Tadgh Beirne (Lansdowne - Leinster)
20 - Jordan Coghlan (UCD - Leinster)
21 - Luke McGrath (UCD - Leinster)
22 - Cathal Marsh (Dublin University - Leinster)
23 - Christopher Farrell (Dungannon - Ulster)
Peter Nelson was a cert for FB is he wasn't injured.
Therefore, there would be 4 Ulster players in the 1st XV.
By the way, Connacht only beat Ulster U20s by a couple of points and we where missing our best players like Henderson/Jackson.
Have you witnessed Peter Nelson play? Ulster Ravens top try scorer and former Irish sprinter?Mr. Very Popular wrote:Have you ever seen Layden play?Willie Falloon wrote:Luckycharmer wrote:On another note I see the Under 20's team has been announced - who are the new players to look out for. I see Luke mcgrath only makes the bench- are our pack big enough?
I see Munster are still making fantastic contributions to Irish underage rugby with only 2 starters less then any other Province
The Ireland Under-20 team (Sponsored by PwC) has been named today by Head Coach Mike Ruddock for this Friday's opening game in the Under-20 RBS Six Nations Championship against Wales, in Dubarry Park, Athlone.
Ruddock has named an experienced side with seven players from last year's squad included in the starting XV to play Wales.Buccaneers own Daniel Qualter will partner up with Iain Henderson in the second row while fellow Connacht native Aaron Conneely is named in the back row.
Centre JJ Hanarahan makes a return to the side from last year along with Sam Coghlan-Murray who has been named on the wing.
Kieran Marmion will take up the scrum half position and will partner Paddy Jackson who has been named at outhalf. Jackson will also captain this year's side.
Speaking ahead of the opening game Ruddock said "We are all looking forward to the start of the 6 Nations. It is always a tough test against Wales but preparations have been first class and we are confident we have prepared as best as we can and are now looking forward to transferring that training onto the pitch itself."
Ireland U-20 v Wales U-20 (Dubarry Park, Athlone - Friday 3rd February 2012, Kick-off 7.05pm)
15 - Shane Layden (Buccaneers - Connacht)
14 - Barry Daly (UCD - Leinster)
13 - Foster Horan (Lansdowne - Leinster)
12 - JJ Hanrahan (UL Bohemians - Munster)
11 - Sam Coghlan-Murray (UCD - Leinster)
10 - Patrick Jackson (Dungannon - Ulster) Captain
9 - Kieran Marmion (Corinthians - Connacht)
1 - Kyle McCall (Ballynahinch - Ulster)
2 - Niall Scannell (Dolphin - Munster)
3 - Peter Reilly (Lansdowne - Leinster)
4 - Iain Henderson (QUB - Ulster)
5 - Daniel Qualter (Buccaneers - Connacht)
6 - Conor Gilsenan (UCD - Leinster)
7 - Aaron Conneely (Corinthians - Connacht)
8 - Jack Conan (Old Belvedere - Leinster)
Replacements:
16 - Des Merrey (Clontarf - Leinster)
17 - James Rael (Garryowen - Munster)
18 - Jake Cawley (XXX - Leinster)
19 - Tadgh Beirne (Lansdowne - Leinster)
20 - Jordan Coghlan (UCD - Leinster)
21 - Luke McGrath (UCD - Leinster)
22 - Cathal Marsh (Dublin University - Leinster)
23 - Christopher Farrell (Dungannon - Ulster)
Peter Nelson was a cert for FB is he wasn't injured.
Therefore, there would be 4 Ulster players in the 1st XV.
By the way, Connacht only beat Ulster U20s by a couple of points and we where missing our best players like Henderson/Jackson.
Who the fudge is this noob wit kant?massivepr1ck wrote:Good riddance BMcL,
Fcuk off DOC
Willie Falloon wrote:
Have you witnessed Peter Nelson play? Ulster Ravens top try scorer and former Irish sprinter?
He's going to be class
Yeah that's the lad,has looked decent enough this year.Tecumseh wrote:Is Marmion the lad who played a bit last year, think he was listed as an exile last year? If he's the scrummy Im thinking of he was fairly poor, and ought not to be keeping out the great white hope.
bloody Munster academy,miles behind Leinster,haven't produced a decent player sincecamroc1 wrote:Can we not all just point and laugh at Munster ?
Mr. Very Popular wrote:bloody Munster academy,miles behind Leinster,haven't produced a decent player sincecamroc1 wrote:Can we not all just point and laugh at Munster ?
Conor Murray
Simon Zebo
Peter O Mahony
The usualanonymous_joe wrote:Hurrah, a beacon of permanence in a land of change.
What are we arguing about?
my fullback you haven't seen is better than your fullback i haven't seen.redrebel wrote:The usualanonymous_joe wrote:Hurrah, a beacon of permanence in a land of change.
What are we arguing about?
Willie Falloon wrote:Have you witnessed Peter Nelson play? Ulster Ravens top try scorer and former Irish sprinter?Mr. Very Popular wrote:Have you ever seen Layden play?Willie Falloon wrote:Luckycharmer wrote:On another note I see the Under 20's team has been announced - who are the new players to look out for. I see Luke mcgrath only makes the bench- are our pack big enough?
I see Munster are still making fantastic contributions to Irish underage rugby with only 2 starters less then any other Province
The Ireland Under-20 team (Sponsored by PwC) has been named today by Head Coach Mike Ruddock for this Friday's opening game in the Under-20 RBS Six Nations Championship against Wales, in Dubarry Park, Athlone.
Ruddock has named an experienced side with seven players from last year's squad included in the starting XV to play Wales.Buccaneers own Daniel Qualter will partner up with Iain Henderson in the second row while fellow Connacht native Aaron Conneely is named in the back row.
Centre JJ Hanarahan makes a return to the side from last year along with Sam Coghlan-Murray who has been named on the wing.
Kieran Marmion will take up the scrum half position and will partner Paddy Jackson who has been named at outhalf. Jackson will also captain this year's side.
Speaking ahead of the opening game Ruddock said "We are all looking forward to the start of the 6 Nations. It is always a tough test against Wales but preparations have been first class and we are confident we have prepared as best as we can and are now looking forward to transferring that training onto the pitch itself."
Ireland U-20 v Wales U-20 (Dubarry Park, Athlone - Friday 3rd February 2012, Kick-off 7.05pm)
15 - Shane Layden (Buccaneers - Connacht)
14 - Barry Daly (UCD - Leinster)
13 - Foster Horan (Lansdowne - Leinster)
12 - JJ Hanrahan (UL Bohemians - Munster)
11 - Sam Coghlan-Murray (UCD - Leinster)
10 - Patrick Jackson (Dungannon - Ulster) Captain
9 - Kieran Marmion (Corinthians - Connacht)
1 - Kyle McCall (Ballynahinch - Ulster)
2 - Niall Scannell (Dolphin - Munster)
3 - Peter Reilly (Lansdowne - Leinster)
4 - Iain Henderson (QUB - Ulster)
5 - Daniel Qualter (Buccaneers - Connacht)
6 - Conor Gilsenan (UCD - Leinster)
7 - Aaron Conneely (Corinthians - Connacht)
8 - Jack Conan (Old Belvedere - Leinster)
Replacements:
16 - Des Merrey (Clontarf - Leinster)
17 - James Rael (Garryowen - Munster)
18 - Jake Cawley (XXX - Leinster)
19 - Tadgh Beirne (Lansdowne - Leinster)
20 - Jordan Coghlan (UCD - Leinster)
21 - Luke McGrath (UCD - Leinster)
22 - Cathal Marsh (Dublin University - Leinster)
23 - Christopher Farrell (Dungannon - Ulster)
Peter Nelson was a cert for FB is he wasn't injured.
Therefore, there would be 4 Ulster players in the 1st XV.
By the way, Connacht only beat Ulster U20s by a couple of points and we where missing our best players like Henderson/Jackson.
He's going to be class
danthefan wrote:Just looking at inpho.ie. Obviously sometime you can read too much into these things, but.
DOC seems to be in a group of otherwise first choice forwards (i.e. Healy, Ross, Heaslip, SOB, Ferris, POC, there's no hooker evident).
McFadden seems to be running moves with some first choice backs (D'Arcy, Kearney)
Murray did the press conference, possibly not significant.
Murray is obviously vice-captain so,probably going to do the place kicking as well,God he's just brilliant.danthefan wrote:Just looking at inpho.ie. Obviously sometime you can read too much into these things, but.
DOC seems to be in a group of otherwise first choice forwards (i.e. Healy, Ross, Heaslip, SOB, Ferris, POC, there's no hooker evident).
McFadden seems to be running moves with some first choice backs (D'Arcy, Kearney)
Murray did the press conference, possibly not significant.
Blackrock Bullet wrote:Question re Ulster and the tax break up there (im sure it's been asked a lot so sorry in advance).
Does it apply up there?
Rumour has it that Earls wasn't involved with the first 7 at all.danthefan wrote:Just looking at inpho.ie. Obviously sometime you can read too much into these things, but.
DOC seems to be in a group of otherwise first choice forwards (i.e. Healy, Ross, Heaslip, SOB, Ferris, POC, there's no hooker evident).
McFadden seems to be running moves with some first choice backs (D'Arcy, Kearney)
Murray did the press conference, possibly not significant.
And that's the reason Tommy will be in Munster red next season.Hellraiser wrote:Blackrock Bullet wrote:Question re Ulster and the tax break up there (im sure it's been asked a lot so sorry in advance).
Does it apply up there?
No