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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:29 pm
by MunsterMan!!!!!
We'll beat Scotland. I don't think the players will take that game lightly.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:31 pm
by ruckinhell
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:We'll beat Scotland. I don't think the players will take that game lightly.
Joe has been stewing over the Scots since busgate, I hear the team are sleeping in the stadium overnight and he's banned all fried foods from camp.

In fairness, there is no way we can take this game complacently, it's the very first game and will have been the complete focus of the last 6 months.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:42 pm
by MunsterMan!!!!!
ruckinhell wrote:
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:We'll beat Scotland. I don't think the players will take that game lightly.
Joe has been stewing over the Scots since busgate, I hear the team are sleeping in the stadium overnight and he's banned all fried foods from camp.

In fairness, there is no way we can take this game complacently, it's the very first game and will have been the complete focus of the last 6 months.
They've beaten us 3 out of the last 10 and I think that probably the % probability I'd give them beating us again, 30%. On say that their backrow and backline are lethal however the big boys win matches and our front 5 and subs shit all over their to be honest.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:53 pm
by ruckinhell
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:
ruckinhell wrote:
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:We'll beat Scotland. I don't think the players will take that game lightly.
Joe has been stewing over the Scots since busgate, I hear the team are sleeping in the stadium overnight and he's banned all fried foods from camp.

In fairness, there is no way we can take this game complacently, it's the very first game and will have been the complete focus of the last 6 months.
They've beaten us 3 out of the last 10 and I think that probably the % probability I'd give them beating us again, 30%. On say that their backrow and backline are lethal however the big boys win matches and our front 5 and subs shit all over their to be honest.
I'm not so gone on their backrow, Hamish Watson is a real gem but they lack a heavy carrier and the rest of them are a bit meh. Barclay was a fine player but looks a shadow of the player he was before his last long injury absence. If you let them play a fast front foot game they have players who look awesome but their backrow also lacks grunt to bail out the tight 5 in an arm wrestle. Agreed on the tight 5 disparity, I suspect we'll win by 9-12 points in a game that will leave the Scots frustrated and complaining about boring Irish anti-rugby.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:00 pm
by Ulsters Red Hand
ruckinhell wrote:
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:We'll beat Scotland. I don't think the players will take that game lightly.
Joe has been stewing over the Scots since busgate, I hear the team are sleeping in the stadium overnight and he's banned all fried foods from camp.

In fairness, there is no way we can take this game complacently, it's the very first game and will have been the complete focus of the last 6 months.
I agree, they even threw the Six Nations because of it. Ireland to win by 50+ points

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:10 pm
by Flametop
Ironically (from memory without checking) we have Wayne Barnes for Scotland.
Wayne likes the team that win the gain line.
Not so keen on jackalling (until the second half when he seems to change his mind)

Dominate the collisions early and we will win.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:16 pm
by Nolanator
Play POM at 7 and have him run elbows first at Rusell all day?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:16 pm
by irishrugbyua
Nolanator wrote:Play POM at 7 and have him run elbows first at Rusell all day?
would he be quick enough to make a difference?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:35 pm
by Nolanator
irishrugbyua wrote:
Nolanator wrote:Play POM at 7 and have him run elbows first at Rusell all day?
would he be quick enough to make a difference?
I don't think he should play 7 at all, especially against a fast team like Scotland, but there are lots of noises about him being an option there.
One of the possible upsides is that he could be in a better position to injure their key backs. :nod:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:36 pm
by Trostan
irishrugbyua wrote:
Nolanator wrote:Play POM at 7 and have him run elbows first at Rusell all day?
would he be quick enough to make a difference?
POM could do his haka.
The one where he sinks down with arms up and tosses Stuart Hogg over his head.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:04 pm
by MunsterMan!!!!!
ruckinhell wrote:
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:
ruckinhell wrote:
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:We'll beat Scotland. I don't think the players will take that game lightly.
Joe has been stewing over the Scots since busgate, I hear the team are sleeping in the stadium overnight and he's banned all fried foods from camp.

In fairness, there is no way we can take this game complacently, it's the very first game and will have been the complete focus of the last 6 months.
They've beaten us 3 out of the last 10 and I think that probably the % probability I'd give them beating us again, 30%. On say that their backrow and backline are lethal however the big boys win matches and our front 5 and subs shit all over their to be honest.
I'm not so gone on their backrow, Hamish Watson is a real gem but they lack a heavy carrier and the rest of them are a bit meh. Barclay was a fine player but looks a shadow of the player he was before his last long injury absence. If you let them play a fast front foot game they have players who look awesome but their backrow also lacks grunt to bail out the tight 5 in an arm wrestle. Agreed on the tight 5 disparity, I suspect we'll win by 9-12 points in a game that will leave the Scots frustrated and complaining about boring Irish anti-rugby.
Ritchie is a cracking player. Ritchie, Watson, Wilson, M Fagerson abd Barclay, you are going to get a seriously back row from whatever combination they pick from that. From 6-15 they are a match for us or better in some positions however J.Gray is a one man band in the tight 5 and that where we'll win it.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:10 pm
by Nolanator
Watson's a cracking player, but is he equipped to help out at the coal face if the forwards are getting beaten up?

I could be wrong, but my impression was that his strengths are more in carrying slightly further away from the ruck.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:21 pm
by Trostan
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:
ruckinhell wrote:
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:
ruckinhell wrote:
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:We'll beat Scotland. I don't think the players will take that game lightly.
Joe has been stewing over the Scots since busgate, I hear the team are sleeping in the stadium overnight and he's banned all fried foods from camp.

In fairness, there is no way we can take this game complacently, it's the very first game and will have been the complete focus of the last 6 months.
They've beaten us 3 out of the last 10 and I think that probably the % probability I'd give them beating us again, 30%. On say that their backrow and backline are lethal however the big boys win matches and our front 5 and subs shit all over their to be honest.
I'm not so gone on their backrow, Hamish Watson is a real gem but they lack a heavy carrier and the rest of them are a bit meh. Barclay was a fine player but looks a shadow of the player he was before his last long injury absence. If you let them play a fast front foot game they have players who look awesome but their backrow also lacks grunt to bail out the tight 5 in an arm wrestle. Agreed on the tight 5 disparity, I suspect we'll win by 9-12 points in a game that will leave the Scots frustrated and complaining about boring Irish anti-rugby.
Ritchie is a cracking player. Ritchie, Watson, Wilson, M Fagerson abd Barclay, you are going to get a seriously back row from whatever combination they pick from that. From 6-15 they are a match for us or better in some positions however J.Gray is a one man band in the tight 5 and that where we'll win it.
17 to 19/20 will bring more
20 is an interesting choice.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:22 pm
by Nolanator
Ruddock. Beat the shit out of them. Think Leinster against Scarlets or something.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:23 pm
by Lazy Couch potato
Thompson is s very handy pick up for them. Cummings mcinally n nel too. Barclay seems a bit back from his best since the injury.


But they’re very hot n cold and if we get into a rhythm and start to batter them up front we’ll do very well.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:23 pm
by MunsterMan!!!!!
Both

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:34 pm
by ruckinhell
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:
ruckinhell wrote:
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:
ruckinhell wrote:
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:We'll beat Scotland. I don't think the players will take that game lightly.
Joe has been stewing over the Scots since busgate, I hear the team are sleeping in the stadium overnight and he's banned all fried foods from camp.

In fairness, there is no way we can take this game complacently, it's the very first game and will have been the complete focus of the last 6 months.
They've beaten us 3 out of the last 10 and I think that probably the % probability I'd give them beating us again, 30%. On say that their backrow and backline are lethal however the big boys win matches and our front 5 and subs shit all over their to be honest.
I'm not so gone on their backrow, Hamish Watson is a real gem but they lack a heavy carrier and the rest of them are a bit meh. Barclay was a fine player but looks a shadow of the player he was before his last long injury absence. If you let them play a fast front foot game they have players who look awesome but their backrow also lacks grunt to bail out the tight 5 in an arm wrestle. Agreed on the tight 5 disparity, I suspect we'll win by 9-12 points in a game that will leave the Scots frustrated and complaining about boring Irish anti-rugby.
Ritchie is a cracking player. Ritchie, Watson, Wilson, M Fagerson abd Barclay, you are going to get a seriously back row from whatever combination they pick from that. From 6-15 they are a match for us or better in some positions however J.Gray is a one man band in the tight 5 and that where we'll win it.
That's a backrow for the front foot, no doubt. I'd happily see that same backrow combo (Watson aside) on Sunday week if we can get dominance in the tight 5, they don't have the bulk to stop our possession game or the heavy carriers to punch their way past us. I think Wilson is a Diet Irn Bru version of POM but without the absolute top class breakdown work and lineout jumping. Their backrow offers no possibility of a plan B so if plan A of being the "quickest rugby team on the planet" isn't working they'll add to their demise by forcing Plan A over and over and over.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:01 pm
by Flametop
Just look what Larmour brings to the team.
He even has Stockdale copying his signature move.

:lol:

Second video down.
Nice twinkle toes.

https://mobile.twitter.com/C4Sport/stat ... 0484925441

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:06 pm
by Nolanator
Flametop wrote:Just look what Larmour brings to the team.
He even has Stockdale copying his signature move.

:lol:

Second video down.
Nice twinkle toes.

https://mobile.twitter.com/C4Sport/stat ... 0484925441
Winger sidesteps defender covering across.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:13 pm
by Flametop
Nolanator wrote:
Flametop wrote:Just look what Larmour brings to the team.
He even has Stockdale copying his signature move.

:lol:

Second video down.
Nice twinkle toes.

https://mobile.twitter.com/C4Sport/stat ... 0484925441
Winger sidesteps defender covering across.
One step to beat first defender, then an out in two step to beat the second.
That’s classy and not just a step.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:21 pm
by Nolanator
It's good play, absolutely. Stockdale is a good player. It's hardly Larmour's signature move though, is it?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:34 pm
by Floppykid
Heaslip created a twitter poll asking if he should start a podcast, people are ripping the hole out of him in the subtweets. :lol:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:38 pm
by Flametop
Nolanator wrote:It's good play, absolutely. Stockdale is a good player. It's hardly Larmour's signature move though, is it?
Kind of. Little jump, landing both feet nearly at the same time, lean one way, then step in the other direction.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:39 pm
by Flametop
Floppykid wrote:Heaslip created a twitter poll asking if he should start a podcast, people are ripping the hole out of him in the subtweets. :lol:
Is it about fashion or the right headphones?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:52 pm
by PourSomeRuggerOnMe
MunsterMan!!!!! wrote:Ritchie is a cracking player. Ritchie, Watson, Wilson, M Fagerson abd Barclay, you are going to get a seriously back row from whatever combination they pick from that. From 6-15 they are a match for us or better in some positions however J.Gray is a one man band in the tight 5 and that where we'll win it.
Matt Fagerson didn't make the squad. I agree he did look good this season. Barclay has been struggling for form lately. I've never rated Wilson, he's like a non-talented AWJ, all he does is cheat conspicuously. Ritchie is decent and Watson is quality.

To be fair, they could say similar things about our back row - POM and Stander out of form etc.

I think we're far better up front though, even J Gray has been a shadow of his former self lately.

Hopefully they start Laidlaw, between his slow service and our ruck work and line speed, we should be able to shut them out.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:47 pm
by unseenwork
Baloucoune's injured then and probably won't be in the team for Glasgow, where it's possible that Moore might be, though it still seems ambiguous as to what's up with Moore.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:21 pm
by rfurlong
EverReady wrote:Nols is taking the Bern's closure bad
:lol:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:28 pm
by Nolanator
:lol:

I've never set foot in the place you prick.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:51 pm
by Bogbunny
unseenwork wrote:Baloucoune's injured then and probably won't be in the team for Glasgow, where it's possible that Moore might be, though it still seems ambiguous as to what's up with Moore.
Had shoulder surgery after JWC, due back playing in November

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:27 pm
by irishrugbyua
Leinster lead 22-7 at HT

Tried from Doris, JOB and Dooley

Ross Byrne only before halftime for Frawley who went off injured

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:14 pm
by irishrugbyua
Full time: Saints 26-34 Leinster

Further tries from ROL and COB

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:16 pm
by danthefan
irishrugbyua wrote:Full time: Saints 26-34 Leinster

Further tries from ROL and O'Brien.
Good stuff. Usually get hammered in the pre season games.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:18 pm
by irishrugbyua
danthefan wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:Full time: Saints 26-34 Leinster

Further tries from ROL and O'Brien.
Good stuff. Usually get hammered in the pre season games.
3 from 3 this preseason.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:22 pm
by Floppykid
Sounds like JOB had a good game anyway.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:40 pm
by Floppykid
Duff Paddy wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
feckwanker wrote:
Floppykid wrote:
feckwanker wrote: ULSTER SAYS NO.
Seriously though, wtf.
Should be ashamed to show his face around here.
Sure Willie, a farmer nonetheless, voted to leave :lol:
My understanding is loads of farmers voted leave.
It’s almost as if they’re a bit stupid
Is it purely tribalism?
I mean, I get the English doing it out of spiteful, grievance based nationalism and all, but that's not like DUP supporters.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:53 pm
by Uncle Fester
Nolanator wrote:It's good play, absolutely. Stockdale is a good player. It's hardly Larmour's signature move though, is it?
I've heard people refer to it as a.... *checks notes*... "Side step".

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:55 pm
by Flametop
Uncle Fester wrote:
Nolanator wrote:It's good play, absolutely. Stockdale is a good player. It's hardly Larmour's signature move though, is it?
I've heard people refer to it as a.... *checks notes*... "Side step".
I’m assuming you were a forward?

:lol:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:02 pm
by Uncle Fester
The universe ran in straight lines of varying speeds until a young lad called Jordan turned up and smashed our notions of what human beings could achieve.

Now everybody is trying to copy Jordan. That Shane Williams does a decent impression of him, as does David Campese.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:06 pm
by Ulsters Red Hand
Bogbunny wrote:
unseenwork wrote:Baloucoune's injured then and probably won't be in the team for Glasgow, where it's possible that Moore might be, though it still seems ambiguous as to what's up with Moore.
Had shoulder surgery after JWC, due back playing in November
Hopefully not another sick note

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:08 pm
by Flametop
Uncle Fester wrote:The universe ran in straight lines of varying speeds until a young lad called Jordan turned up and smashed our notions of what human beings could achieve.

Now everybody is trying to copy Jordan. That Shane Williams does a decent impression of him, as does David Campese.
Shane was fantastic but his style was different as was Campo’s.