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Yer Man wrote:

Fritz Lung wrote:

alliswell wrote:

danthefan wrote:Is the team not being named this morning?

IT say this

IRELAND (v Russia, Kobe Misaki stadium, Thursday, 7.15pm (11.15am Irish time): Rob Kearney (Leinster); Andrew Conway (Munster), Garry Ringrose (Leinster), Bundee Aki (Connacht), Keith Earls (Munster); Johnny Sexton (Leinster), Luke McGrath (Leinster); Dave Kilcoyne (Munster), Niall Scannell (Munster), John Ryan (Munster); Tadhg Beirne (Munster), Jean Kleyn (Munster); Rhys Ruddock (Leinster), Peter O’Mahony (Munster, capt), Jordi Murphy (Leinster).

Replacements: Sean Cronin (Leinster), Andrew Porter (Leinster), Tadhg Furlong (Leinster), Iain Henderson (Ulster), CJ Stander (Munster), Joey Carbery (Munster), Jack Carty (Connacht), Jordan Larmour (Leinster).

Is Jordi not (a) Nordi these days?

He was last season.

May have been kidnapped on his way to the Airport.

You mean rescued, surely ?

The story about the two Irish lads and the heroin in Japan is a bit strange. It would be more believeable if it was cocaine.

If Henshaw isn't fit for Samoa there was really very little point in bringing him.

Diego wrote:If Henshaw isn't fit for Samoa there was really very little point in bringing him.

It's already looking like he should have been sent home. Ringrose is being battered as a result.

It's surprising that Lamour wasn't used at 13 in order to rest Ringrose. You'd wonder if it is due to intercept against Japan. But for Earls, he could have cost us a place in the quarter finals.

World Rugby have confirmed that some of the penalties against Ireland at the weekend were incorrect.

Ulster squad for South Africa

Forwards (16):
Kyle McCall(LH Prop)
Jack McGrath(LH Prop)
Eric O’Sullivan(LH Prop)
Ross Kane(TH Prop)
Tom O’Toole(TH Prop)
Rob Herring(Hooker)
John Andrew(Hooker)
Adam McBurney(Hooker)
Sam Carter(Lock)
Alan O’Connor(Lock)
Kieran Treadwell(Lock)
Marcell Coetzee(Backrow)
Greg Jones(Backrow)
Matthew Rea(Backrow)
Sean Reidy(Backrow)
Clive Ross(Backrow)


Backs (12):
John Cooney(Scrumhalf)
David Shanahan(Scrumhalf)
Bill Johnston(Outhalf)
Michael Lowry(Outhalf)
Billy Burns(Outhalf)
Angus Curtis(Centre)
James Hume(Centre)
Luke Marshall(Centre)
Louis Ludik(Outside Back)
Matt Faddes(Outside Back)
Rob Lyttle(Back Three)
Craig Gilroy(Wing)

Jumper wrote:World Rugby have confirmed that some of the penalties against Ireland at the weekend were incorrect.

3 offside penalties which is exactly as I thought. The one against Stander was mental as he was two metres onside. It was the non calling of the Japanese offside that really bothered me. They were half way up the ruck on nearly every ruck.

Jumper wrote:World Rugby have confirmed that some of the penalties against Ireland at the weekend were incorrect.

Link?

irishrugbyua wrote:Ulster squad for South Africa

Forwards (16):
Kyle McCall(LH Prop)
Jack McGrath(LH Prop)
Eric O’Sullivan(LH Prop)
Ross Kane(TH Prop)
Tom O’Toole(TH Prop)
Rob Herring(Hooker)
John Andrew(Hooker)
Adam McBurney(Hooker)
Sam Carter(Lock)
Alan O’Connor(Lock)
Kieran Treadwell(Lock)
Marcell Coetzee(Backrow)
Greg Jones(Backrow)
Matthew Rea(Backrow)
Sean Reidy(Backrow)
Clive Ross(Backrow)


Backs (12):
John Cooney(Scrumhalf)
David Shanahan(Scrumhalf)
Bill Johnston(Outhalf)
Michael Lowry(Outhalf)
Billy Burns(Outhalf)
Angus Curtis(Centre)
James Hume(Centre)
Luke Marshall(Centre)
Louis Ludik(Outside Back)
Matt Faddes(Outside Back)
Rob Lyttle(Back Three)
Craig Gilroy(Wing)

Happy days.

Liathroidigloine wrote:

Jumper wrote:World Rugby have confirmed that some of the penalties against Ireland at the weekend were incorrect.

3 offside penalties which is exactly as I thought. The one against Stander was mental as he was two metres onside. It was the non calling of the Japanese offside that really bothered me. They were half way up the ruck on nearly every ruck.

If it wasn't us we would have been laughing at the ref stitch up.

Them's the breaks lads.

Ireland putting up the team masseur for interview instead of one of the coaching staff

Better qualification than some piece of crap from the University of Sydney

Liathroidigloine wrote:

Jumper wrote:World Rugby have confirmed that some of the penalties against Ireland at the weekend were incorrect.

3 offside penalties which is exactly as I thought. The one against Stander was mental as he was two metres onside. It was the non calling of the Japanese offside that really bothered me. They were half way up the ruck on nearly every ruck.

Exactly - it was the lack of consistency - we were getting man and ball and the minute we tried to increase our linespeed we were whistled off the pitch. Also at the breakdown, VDF pinned in gets pinged, they are all over our ball in from the side and it’s just the ref telling them to leave it. We got done prison style.

Raggs wrote:

Jumper wrote:World Rugby have confirmed that some of the penalties against Ireland at the weekend were incorrect.

Link?

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 50571.html

I fear that the poor Scots will get done likewise. Ben O'Keeffe is reffing them. They would have been better off with a NH ref.

iarmhiman wrote: When you go there they're lovely people..............as long as the topic of conversation isn't about rugby.

That's been my experience as well. No sense of humour when it comes to rugby. Terrifically friendly and helpful otherwise.

We already knew that Gardner didn't suit us and tends to be a bit of a homer. Why did Schmidt have to compound this by criticising him in the media?

3 of the 4 offside calls? Well there was one where about 3 lads were off, including Murray who was several yards ahead of the line. Interesting that none of the rest should have been whistled. Is that because of Japanese players rucking long and giving a false picture of the offside line?

Agree with Duff about the VDF one. Although 9 penos is hardly an outrage.

nardol wrote:

ticketlessinseattle wrote:

danthefan wrote:Kearney went off with a failed HIA at the weekend and he's playing again on a Thursday? That does not seem right.

It's like Masstricht, they keep trying it until they get the result they want

Thats Lisbon - not Maastricht fyi

fairymuff. anyone on sky broadband in Dublin ? last time I checked they were using the same infrastructure as eir - I signed up for eir a year ago to get BT sport and eir sport, contract is up and BT Sport is gone and its sh1te internet service (even with 3 boosters) - am going to change to sky or back to Virgin ; eirsports does have Pro14 but I think virgin also provide eir sports ? am probably going to get the sky and BT sport package - someone tell me what to do ....other than the obvious first reaction, cheers

Liathroidigloine wrote:I fear that the poor Scots will get done likewise. Ben O'Keeffe is reffing them. They would have been better off with a NH ref.

They at least have been warned. If they play a structured game they should still be able to win but who can account for fitness like we saw last Saturday? We couldn’t and the Scots certainly can’t either. If they play it loose like we did then they will lose. Will the heat be an issue - where is it being played and at what time of day?

nardol wrote:

Raggs wrote:

Jumper wrote:World Rugby have confirmed that some of the penalties against Ireland at the weekend were incorrect.

Link?

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 50571.html

Cheers. I'd seen the interview where he says they got feedback, I was wondering who from though, didn't realise it was definitely world rugby.

Seen a gif where your 7 was well offside from a previous tackle and tackled the next Japanese one out runner, nothing called, I do always wonder if World rugby add a few of those "missed" ones in too.

Out of interest, since your lot basically invented it, what's your opinion on the choke tackle mauls being collapsed? There was one early in the 1st half where you'd lifted the little winger off the ground, but the Japanese get in behind and were charging up field, clearly then taken down by the Irish, still given as a scrum to Ireland. See that a lot unfortunately.

Japanese got away with taking men away from the ruck a few times in the 1st half too (didn't see it anywhere near as much in the 2nd, maybe someone had had a word).

Can't say I saw too much wrong with his rolling away calls. Got you once or twice, got them once or twice, pinned in with nowhere to go, the correct answer is the player shouldn't get themselves on the wrong side in the first place.

OomPB wrote:

Luckycharmer wrote:

Uncle Fester wrote:

hermie wrote:

CM11 wrote:Our skills under pressure aren't good. He's not wrong there.

O'Connor in the Indo today says that

What was most galling about the way Japan played was that their style of rugby is exactly the kind that Schmidt insists can't be played at this level due to a lack of preparation time.

Before going on to say that Schmidt was out-thought be Joseph/Brown and he has been to a large extent, figured out.

Japan have been a club team in all but name. The story goes that they have trained together 200 time this year.

So why are they only 8th in the world then?
To get higher up the rankings don't you have beat teams who are ranked higher than you. I know they play and won the pacific nations championship and played SA recently but what other top ranked nations have they played in recent times?

They play S15 rugby like Argentina.

That doesn't affect world rankings plus I heard an interesting interview that Jamie Joseph didn't let his players play much for the Sunwolves this season keeping them in camp. He said that sunwolves used something like 72 players.

Joe Schmidt:

We were penalised for offside four times and we've now got the feedback that three of those were incorrect calls. People were asking us about our discipline.

"It's pretty hard to keep getting off the line and onto the front foot when you are getting those calls. Two of them were from an Assistant Referee (Jerome Garces) who is going to be refereeing us on Thursday, so we know we're going to have to be on our best behaviour.

"One thing I would say about this team is that they try to go out and deliver and, generally speaking, it's unusual for us to have a higher penalty count than our opponents.

"So it's frustrating that in the first two games…. I thought Wayne [Barnes] did a super job (in Ireland v Scotland).

Told ya we got done lads

EverReady wrote:What is this hail fellow well met magnanimous bollox Mullet

Not one to shout abuse at the ref from the stands

Duff Paddy wrote:Joe Schmidt:

We were penalised for offside four times and we've now got the feedback that three of those were incorrect calls. People were asking us about our discipline.

"It's pretty hard to keep getting off the line and onto the front foot when you are getting those calls. Two of them were from an Assistant Referee (Jerome Garces) who is going to be refereeing us on Thursday, so we know we're going to have to be on our best behaviour.

"One thing I would say about this team is that they try to go out and deliver and, generally speaking, it's unusual for us to have a higher penalty count than our opponents.

"So it's frustrating that in the first two games…. I thought Wayne [Barnes] did a super job (in Ireland v Scotland).

Told ya we got done lads

Interesting that two were from Garces. Japan must have done a number on him to create a false picture. We'd be applauding Ireland for same so fair dues to Japan.

EverReady wrote:What is this hail fellow well met magnanimous bollox Mullet

I'm like a migratory bird

When i can feel an election coming my personality changes.

CM11 wrote:

Duff Paddy wrote:Joe Schmidt:

We were penalised for offside four times and we've now got the feedback that three of those were incorrect calls. People were asking us about our discipline.

"It's pretty hard to keep getting off the line and onto the front foot when you are getting those calls. Two of them were from an Assistant Referee (Jerome Garces) who is going to be refereeing us on Thursday, so we know we're going to have to be on our best behaviour.

"One thing I would say about this team is that they try to go out and deliver and, generally speaking, it's unusual for us to have a higher penalty count than our opponents.

"So it's frustrating that in the first two games…. I thought Wayne [Barnes] did a super job (in Ireland v Scotland).

Told ya we got done lads

Interesting that two were from Garces. Japan must have done a number on him to create a false picture. We'd be applauding Ireland for same so fair dues to Japan.

Japan didn’t do anything to him he’s just a stupid prick who was influenced by the home town crowd and was giving the underdogs an easier time than the big bad favourites

You look great Ever, have you lost weight?

nardol wrote:

Raggs wrote:

Jumper wrote:World Rugby have confirmed that some of the penalties against Ireland at the weekend were incorrect.

Link?

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 50571.html

Can anyone can post the text? I read the indo in the kawphy shop this morning and could not find that
Was it legal to jump on Larmour when he was on the ground after catching a ball?

Haha, christ Ulster have signed Herbst as short term cover for the South Africa tour.

unseenwork wrote:Haha, christ Ulster have signed Herbst as short term cover for the South Africa tour.

And McCloskey appears to be injured.

Wonder if SA will call Coetzee up if they have an injury.

Nardol is some muppet for starting that thread.

unseenwork wrote:Haha, christ Ulster have signed Herbst as short term cover for the South Africa tour.

Well they said he'd never play in Ireland again, so that's alright

CM11 wrote:Nardol is some muppet for starting that thread.

Yeah.


Sweet baby jebus lads, keep it in-house instead of whinging in public like a Saffer/Keewee/Taff

We got beaten because they played better than we did.

CM11 wrote:Nardol is some muppet for starting that thread.

A fuckin eejit is what he is.

Coatzee said he might be back for the Cardiff match at the end of the month at halftime on the tv on Friday night. He must only be going to show the boys were the best strip clubs and brothels are.

Sensible team and it'll be interesting to see Ruddock in a national team jersey, not seen enough of him.

EverReady wrote:Nardol I'm with you and behind you. Ratchet it up baby

I would have liked yo have heard the word “corruption” used more than once.

Flametop wrote:

EverReady wrote:Nardol I'm with you and behind you. Ratchet it up baby

I would have liked yo have heard the word “corruption” used more than once.

Collusion would have been perfect.

Happy days, there is another thread on Gurrier's reffing performance. Take a bow Willie. I reckon there's only room for 3 or 4 more threads so better get cracking if you want to start one.

unseenwork wrote:

Flametop wrote:

EverReady wrote:Nardol I'm with you and behind you. Ratchet it up baby

I would have liked yo have heard the word “corruption” used more than once.

Collusion would have been perfect.

Only if you squeeze in cognitive dissonance.