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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:07 am
by earl the beaver
Jumper wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:We learnt a good bit today.

We learnt that Kleyn is the biggest disgrace of a selection since Bent
Positives for Ruddock, Kilkoyne, Ringrose, Conway
Bad day for POM, Carty, McGrath, Aki, Earls

I can now see why JS will play sexton unless he is unconscious
POM and Earls were some of our top performers :lol: :lol: :lol:

Conway was grand, as was Ringrose.
Earls was awful you absolut shitgibbon

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:08 am
by Mullet 2
Awful a bit strong on Earls.

Relax the kacks

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:08 am
by fishooks15
Feel less reactionary about the win yesterday.

Thank fudge we've the Samoa game to come before the quarter.

Need to start Sexton and give him 50 tbh. Team needs momentum at this point we'll just have to take some risks playing players.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:09 am
by CM11
Duff Paddy wrote:Franno on Kleyn
Then we look at some of the individual performances. Jean Kleyn's performance was a disgrace. He carried the ball for zero metres. Those hard yards just seem to be very hard yards. He made six tackles, missed one, gave away one turnover and made one pass to a Russian player.

Apart from that, Kleyn did precisely nothing. He was completely outplayed by his Russian opposite numbers, as was his second-row partner Tadhg Beirne, who looked like he was injured when he was unable to pack down for the last scrum of the game.
Beirne had cramp, I think.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:09 am
by irishrugbyua
Indo gave POM a 3.

Ruddock highest rated at 7.

Not sure who was giving the ratings.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:10 am
by Mullet 2
That's a Franno special

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:10 am
by fishooks15
Also, as poor as I thought Beirne was. He has at least two perfectly good turnovers ignored by Garces

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:11 am
by CM11
danthefan wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:TRK arguing on Twitter that Kleyn played well. It’s a parody account at this stage.
He's also been on Twitter railing against provincialism. This is a chap who gave none of the forwards less than a 6 in his player ratings (published in the Examiner if you'd like to see them). Who did all the forwards, bar Ruddock, play for again? These are the lads who struggled to get on top of f**king Russia.
CM11 wrote:
PETER O’MAHONY: There was a rip in the tackle, a cleanly taken try, an intercept in midfield, a lineout steal, all of which were the big moments for which he is renowned - 8.
This is it in a nutshell. [Highly visible thing] is weighted more heavily than double digit tackle and carry counts, plus all the other work someone like Ruddock would do.
What's more bizarre is that Ruddock did some very visible stuff too.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:12 am
by CM11
irishrugbyua wrote:Indo gave POM a 3.

Ruddock highest rated at 7.

Not sure who was giving the ratings.
Des Berry is on the Indo site too. Is he the Herald?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:14 am
by irishrugbyua
CM11 wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:Indo gave POM a 3.

Ruddock highest rated at 7.

Not sure who was giving the ratings.
Des Berry is on the Indo site too. Is he the Herald?
Yeah, think it was ROC, Cian Tracey would never give POM a 3.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:17 am
by Duff Paddy
Ah he wasn’t a 3. I’d give him a solid 6 but given the opposition and his senior player status he should be turning in at least 8’s

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:23 am
by CM11
I don't think POM was awful either but he clearly wasn't as good as Ruddock

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:24 am
by Liathroidigloine
Duff Paddy wrote:Ah he wasn’t a 3. I’d give him a solid 6 but given the opposition and his senior player status he should be turning in at least 8’s
Kleyn was a 2. Our second row who plays LLD1B would have outplayed him.

Earls form is very worrying and I'm not talking about the loveable rogue from the north of England.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:26 am
by shabadoo
CM11 wrote:I don't think POM was awful either but he clearly wasn't as good as Ruddock
I'd definitely have Ruddock start ahead of him for the 1/4's.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:27 am
by Porterbelly1
Liathroidigloine wrote:TRK arguing on Twitter that Kleyn played well. It’s a parody account at this stage.
Image

TRK watching Munster or anything Munster related

He's an embarrassment. Doesn't go to games either.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:33 am
by danthefan
Porterbelly1 wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:TRK arguing on Twitter that Kleyn played well. It’s a parody account at this stage.
Image

TRK watching Munster or anything Munster related

He's an embarrassment. Doesn't go to games either.
You can't live tweet with hilarious gifs if you're at the match.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:36 am
by Liathroidigloine
Porterbelly1 wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:TRK arguing on Twitter that Kleyn played well. It’s a parody account at this stage.
Image

TRK watching Munster or anything Munster related

He's an embarrassment. Doesn't go to games either.
:lol: :lol:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:17 am
by Jumper
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:Ah he wasn’t a 3. I’d give him a solid 6 but given the opposition and his senior player status he should be turning in at least 8’s
Kleyn was a 2. Our second row who plays LLD1B would have outplayed him.

Earls form is very worrying and I'm not talking about the loveable rogue from the north of England.
In fairness, Earls did only make two of our tries...

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:20 am
by irishrugbyua
:nod:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:20 am
by boringperson12
Compared to Rob, POM is a 3 at best, WNB.

A few things I hope Farrell does when he is put in charge - deletes Joe's mobile number after ripping up the attack play book, and says thanks Rob and Peter, you have done your country proud but you aren't needed anymore.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:22 am
by Hellraiser
boringperson12 wrote:Compared to Rob, POM is a 3 at best, WNB.

A few things I hope Farrell does when he is put in charge - deletes Joe's mobile number after ripping up the attack play book, and says thanks Rob and Peter, you have done your country proud but you aren't needed anymore.

What attack play book?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:26 am
by Jumper
Duff Paddy wrote:Franno on Kleyn
Then we look at some of the individual performances. Jean Kleyn's performance was a disgrace. He carried the ball for zero metres. Those hard yards just seem to be very hard yards. He made six tackles, missed one, gave away one turnover and made one pass to a Russian player.

Apart from that, Kleyn did precisely nothing. He was completely outplayed by his Russian opposite numbers, as was his second-row partner Tadhg Beirne, who looked like he was injured when he was unable to pack down for the last scrum of the game.
Just pointing to simple ESPN stats is a clear sign of a bluffer. Classic Franno. He gives Cummisky a run for his money as the worst rugby "journalist" in the country.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:31 am
by Boxcar Ira
Franno telling it like it is again "Neil Francis: 'Ireland should pack up and catch the next flight home'"

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:31 am
by Luckycharmer
shabadoo wrote:
CM11 wrote:I don't think POM was awful either but he clearly wasn't as good as Ruddock
I'd definitely have Ruddock start ahead of him for the 1/4's.
Agreed, POM has been useless at 6, he has done average when played at 7 at least I have noticed he is actually on the pitch.
I think Farrell is now ahead of AKI at 12. Unless Carberry rapidly rediscovers some form, Carty is backup 10.
Big Earls fan but he has been very poor, conway ahead of him.
You can see Ireland have tried quite a few times to create space for Stockdale but as yet he hasn't quite been able to make the most of it. Ringrose has been our best back this RWC.
Didn't think Scannell did much, every part of his game seems to be just OK without any outstanding attributes, his throwing can be shakey as well though probally a bit more reliable than the other 2.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:33 am
by paddyor
Any word on Nordi?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:34 am
by Boxcar Ira
Players have gone through periods of shitness before and come back so I wouldnt write POM off immediately. Rob obviously has time against him.

The team definitely needs fresh ideas and impetus though. The boring, rugby by numbers is clearly just unenjoyable for them at this stage.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:35 am
by Luckycharmer
One positive though We have only conceeded 1 try after 3 games, don't think any other team has matched that after 3 matches? Defence wins matches, cut out the peno's and you always give yourself a chance.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:42 am
by irishrugbyua
Good interview with Ronan Kelleher: https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 61909.html

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:43 am
by Nolanator
irishrugbyua wrote:
CM11 wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:Indo gave POM a 3.

Ruddock highest rated at 7.

Not sure who was giving the ratings.
Des Berry is on the Indo site too. Is he the Herald?
Yeah, think it was ROC, Cian Tracey would never give POM a 3.
ROC can be quite provincially biased the other way, so that's no surprise!

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:46 am
by Boxcar Ira
Luckycharmer wrote:One positive though We have only conceeded 1 try after 3 games, don't think any other team has matched that after 3 matches? Defence wins matches, cut out the peno's and you always give yourself a chance.
The one positive is the Scotland game. It shows that we are actually quite good when we put our minds to it

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:46 am
by Flametop
So, can Italy do a number on SA.
Based on our form we’d struggle to beat Italy anyway, should we top our pool.

:lol:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:54 am
by hermie
TRK isn't incapable of good analysis but is so one-eyed that it's extremely hard to take seriously. Those 'Wally Ratings' are laughably biased. Anyone suggesting Kleyn was good doesn't have their head in the game.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:05 am
by Flametop
Watching SA Italy.
We ain’t gonna out bosh SA.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:09 am
by Flametop
Barnes ref and commentator.

:lol:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:14 am
by Mullet 2
I doubt we'll be playing SA so it's not a problem

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:16 am
by Flametop
Mullet 2 wrote:I doubt we'll be playing SA so it's not a problem
We’ll be lucky to play NZ.
:lol:
Or maybe they would just be bad luck.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:19 am
by DOB
Boxcar Ira wrote:
Luckycharmer wrote:One positive though We have only conceeded 1 try after 3 games, don't think any other team has matched that after 3 matches? Defence wins matches, cut out the peno's and you always give yourself a chance.
The one positive is the Scotland game. It shows that we are actually quite good when we put our minds to it
Yeah, the “defence” part is a bit clingy-to-false-hope for me. Who’ve we really played? Shite Scotland, conceded huge ground, and constantly, against Japan, and Shite Russia.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:26 am
by sewa
Sissyfuss wrote:Hello,

Some of you weird kuntz should accept this is a low traffic, irrelevant internet forum and not the real world.

Your cliques and "knowledge" are as irrelevant as one of those mongs in a brand new Ireland rugger shirt who sits at the bar disapproving loudly about matches.

The state of the last few pages. Sort yourselves out. Cringey fuckwittery.

I hope that helps.
At last, something we agree on :thumbup:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:33 am
by lorcanoworms
My Munster neighbours who are usually all TRK were saying only Ruddock, Ringrose and to some extent Conway can be happy with their performance.
Kleyn was described as spineless and Beirne as soft.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:40 am
by sewa
camroc1 wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
You honestly can see these lads beating the boks or the all blacks?
Oh yes.

Neither of them will want to face us.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: