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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:16 pm
by Floppykid
Duff Paddy wrote:Floppykid wrote:Uncle Fester wrote:
Top quality horseplay.
Few familiar faces from their j5 team.
Bunch of f**king wanks is what they are.
Dopes.
It’s been doing the rounds all week on what’s app. How thick do you have to be to video that
Just a bit too up themselves, young and obviously not Mensa material.
Glad my teenage/early twenties years didn't coincide with smartphones at their height anyway,.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:17 pm
by Floppykid
Duff Paddy wrote:Banana Man wrote:McCloskey called up to Irish squad
Who got injured
It looks like Larmour, but that's hardly a like for like.
Maybe it means Addison is first choice full back rather than centre cover?
Wouldn't be surprised if Henshaw tore his Achilles standing up off the toilet or something though.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:20 pm
by Jumper
McCloskey is an odd addition considering none of the centres are listed to be injured. Although, Chris Farrell was pulled out of the game at the weekend for a knee bang.
Maybe Andy Farrell is admitting that he got things badly wrong by not including McCloskey in the original squad.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:22 pm
by danthefan
@Murray_Kinsella
14 minutes ago
Stuart McCloskey has been added to Ireland’s Six Nations squad.
Andy Farrell says some backs have niggles after the weekend and praises McCloskey’s form.
@Murray_Kinsella
Ireland do also say there are no “significant injury concerns” which is good news re. Jordan Larmour.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:23 pm
by ZappaMan
He should have been in the original squad. I'd have him very close to starting on current form.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:26 pm
by danthefan
ZappaMan wrote:He should have been in the original squad. I'd have him very close to starting on current form.
Hopefully he's given as much a chance as the rest of them to impress. 6N camp hasn't started yet so he's not joining in the middle of it and is on the back foot or anything.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:35 pm
by Jim Lahey
Maybe Faz has had a bit of a panic given that pretty much the whole Irish rugby public thought he should have been included in the first place.
Anyway, we got there in the end.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:35 pm
by Duff Paddy
ZappaMan wrote:He should have been in the original squad. I'd have him very close to starting on current form.
I’d have him start at 12 ahead of Henshaw or Aki - if he could create space for Ringrose it would be some midfield
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:36 pm
by Duff Paddy
Jim Lahey wrote:Maybe Faz has had a bit of a panic given that pretty much the whole Irish rugby public thought he should have been included in the first place.
Anyway, we got there in the end.
BOD was on BT sport calling it out as a straight up error by Farrell - even if he had no intention of putting him into a match day squad
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:39 pm
by danthefan
From a rugby point of view I don't really get why he wasn't there, you really can't claim he hasn't been in the top 35 players in Ireland this season.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:40 pm
by camroc1
That's a good sign from Farrell. Not to proud to change his mind.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:42 pm
by lemonhead
That's a good sign from Farrell. Not to proud to change his mind.
And paves the way for an eventual public vote.
Now dance, motherfuckers
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:45 pm
by Duff Paddy
danthefan wrote:From a rugby point of view I don't really get why he wasn't there, you really can't claim he hasn't been in the top 35 players in Ireland this season.
It just adds to the suspicion that a non Leinster player has to be twice as good to get a look in. He was never given a fair go.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:50 pm
by Jim Lahey
Duff Paddy wrote:danthefan wrote:From a rugby point of view I don't really get why he wasn't there, you really can't claim he hasn't been in the top 35 players in Ireland this season.
It just adds to the suspicion that a non Leinster player has to be twice as good to get a look in. He was never given a fair go.
Wow lads, you’s have a dissenter in yer ranks.
Mullet et all, grab your hurling bats and teach him a lesson.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:52 pm
by camroc1
Duff Paddy wrote:danthefan wrote:From a rugby point of view I don't really get why he wasn't there, you really can't claim he hasn't been in the top 35 players in Ireland this season.
It just adds to the suspicion that a non Leinster player has to be twice as good to get a look in. He was never given a fair go.
Excellent work, Duffster.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:53 pm
by Despot
Jim Lahey wrote:Duff Paddy wrote:danthefan wrote:From a rugby point of view I don't really get why he wasn't there, you really can't claim he hasn't been in the top 35 players in Ireland this season.
It just adds to the suspicion that a non Leinster player has to be twice as good to get a look in. He was never given a fair go.
Wow lads, you’s have a dissenter in yer ranks.
Mullet et all, grab your hurling bats and teach him a lesson.
They will have hurls!!
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:55 pm
by Bogbunny
Despot wrote:Jim Lahey wrote:Duff Paddy wrote:danthefan wrote:From a rugby point of view I don't really get why he wasn't there, you really can't claim he hasn't been in the top 35 players in Ireland this season.
It just adds to the suspicion that a non Leinster player has to be twice as good to get a look in. He was never given a fair go.
Wow lads, you’s have a dissenter in yer ranks.
Mullet et all, grab your hurling bats and teach him a lesson.
They will have hurls!!
Mullet is a cricket chap. No bogball on the Gold Coast
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:23 pm
by Mullet 2
Duff is going for an elder statesman vibe lately.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:39 pm
by Floppykid
Ruddock, the form backrow since the RWC really, has been left out.
So Duff's pandering rings hollow.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:50 pm
by lorcanoworms
Duff should be renamed Ulsters call.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:54 pm
by Floppykid
Harp Patrick
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:10 pm
by jezzer
ZappaMan wrote:He should have been in the original squad. I'd have him very close to starting on current form.
Great runner with vision and power but for me he lacks vision and smarts in distri ution and in contact (with and without the ball). He's a baller, in that he's talented, tough and motivated, but i dont think he has the smarts and vision for test level rugby. Yet anyway...
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:13 pm
by Duff Paddy
camroc1 wrote:Duff Paddy wrote:danthefan wrote:From a rugby point of view I don't really get why he wasn't there, you really can't claim he hasn't been in the top 35 players in Ireland this season.
It just adds to the suspicion that a non Leinster player has to be twice as good to get a look in. He was never given a fair go.
Excellent work, Duffster.
Watch and learn my friend
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:29 pm
by Ulsters Red Hand
Duff Paddy wrote:Floppykid wrote:Uncle Fester wrote:
Top quality horseplay.
Few familiar faces from their j5 team.
Bunch of f**king wanks is what they are.
Dopes.
It’s been doing the rounds all week on what’s app. How thick do you have to be to video that
You have to come from private education to be thick enough to video it
You also have to come from private education to be thick enough to take part in it
What a bunch of knobs
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:33 pm
by Ulsters Red Hand
jezzer wrote:ZappaMan wrote:He should have been in the original squad. I'd have him very close to starting on current form.
Great runner with vision and power but for me he lacks vision and smarts in distri ution and in contact (with and without the ball). He's a baller, in that he's talented, tough and motivated, but i dont think he has the smarts and vision for test level rugby. Yet anyway...
I actually think he's a better distributor than he's given credit for. But he plays to his strengths, so why would a 6'3, 17 stone centre be concerned with being a silky distributor?
As you say this is all talk so far given he hasn't got a fair shot yet. He could surprise a few
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:47 pm
by Willie Falloon
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:jezzer wrote:ZappaMan wrote:He should have been in the original squad. I'd have him very close to starting on current form.
Great runner with vision and power but for me he lacks vision and smarts in distri ution and in contact (with and without the ball). He's a baller, in that he's talented, tough and motivated, but i dont think he has the smarts and vision for test level rugby. Yet anyway...
I actually think he's a better distributor than he's given credit for. But he plays to his strengths, so why would a 6'3, 17 stone centre be concerned with being a silky distributor?
As you say this is all talk so far given he hasn't got a fair shot yet. He could surprise a few
His frame is huge, as big as a lock.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:52 pm
by rfurlong
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:04 pm
by DOB
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:jezzer wrote:ZappaMan wrote:He should have been in the original squad. I'd have him very close to starting on current form.
Great runner with vision and power but for me he lacks vision and smarts in distri ution and in contact (with and without the ball). He's a baller, in that he's talented, tough and motivated, but i dont think he has the smarts and vision for test level rugby. Yet anyway...
I actually think he's a better distributor than he's given credit for. But he plays to his strengths, so why would a 6'3, 17 stone centre be concerned with being a silky distributor?
As you say this is all talk so far given he hasn't got a fair shot yet. He could surprise a few
I remember a few seasons for Leinster and Ireland of Shane Horgan at 12 trying to play like Tim Horan. It was horribly frustrating. He finally got it right against South Africa in 04, but Darse was full-time at 12 by then, so Shaggy pretty much stayed out on the wing after.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:26 pm
by Uncle Fester
DOB wrote:Ulsters Red Hand wrote:jezzer wrote:ZappaMan wrote:He should have been in the original squad. I'd have him very close to starting on current form.
Great runner with vision and power but for me he lacks vision and smarts in distri ution and in contact (with and without the ball). He's a baller, in that he's talented, tough and motivated, but i dont think he has the smarts and vision for test level rugby. Yet anyway...
I actually think he's a better distributor than he's given credit for. But he plays to his strengths, so why would a 6'3, 17 stone centre be concerned with being a silky distributor?
As you say this is all talk so far given he hasn't got a fair shot yet. He could surprise a few
I remember a few seasons for Leinster and Ireland of Shane Horgan at 12 trying to play like Tim Horan. It was horribly frustrating. He finally got it right against South Africa in 04, but Darse was full-time at 12 by then, so Shaggy pretty much stayed out on the wing after.
He also played against Dewet Barry in that game and he was one of the most limited 12's of that era.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:34 pm
by anonymous_joe
Uncle Fester wrote:DOB wrote:Ulsters Red Hand wrote:jezzer wrote:ZappaMan wrote:He should have been in the original squad. I'd have him very close to starting on current form.
Great runner with vision and power but for me he lacks vision and smarts in distri ution and in contact (with and without the ball). He's a baller, in that he's talented, tough and motivated, but i dont think he has the smarts and vision for test level rugby. Yet anyway...
I actually think he's a better distributor than he's given credit for. But he plays to his strengths, so why would a 6'3, 17 stone centre be concerned with being a silky distributor?
As you say this is all talk so far given he hasn't got a fair shot yet. He could surprise a few
I remember a few seasons for Leinster and Ireland of Shane Horgan at 12 trying to play like Tim Horan. It was horribly frustrating. He finally got it right against South Africa in 04, but Darse was full-time at 12 by then, so Shaggy pretty much stayed out on the wing after.
He also played against Dewet Barry in that game and he was one of the most limited 12's of that era.
Didn't Barry have about 40 caps or something?
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:35 pm
by earl the beaver
Jumper wrote:McCloskey is an odd addition considering none of the centres are listed to be injured. Although, Chris Farrell was pulled out of the game at the weekend for a knee bang.
Maybe Andy Farrell is admitting that he got things badly wrong by not including McCloskey in the original squad.
Or maybe he's realised leaving the best 12 in ireland out was a bit odd.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:36 pm
by rfurlong
Felix Jones being eyed up by Ospreys according to Wales Online
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:41 pm
by earl the beaver
jezzer wrote:ZappaMan wrote:He should have been in the original squad. I'd have him very close to starting on current form.
Great runner with vision and power but for me he lacks vision and smarts in distri ution and in contact (with and without the ball). He's a baller, in that he's talented, tough and motivated, but i dont think he has the smarts and vision for test level rugby. Yet anyway...
Well we don't know do we? He's been tearing it up for Ulster for the past year, scoring tries, creating tries, constantly making yards. Meanwhile the Aki and Henshaw have been picked at 12 for Ireland and been a mix of complete meh and downright gash.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:47 pm
by Floppykid
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:Duff Paddy wrote:Floppykid wrote:Uncle Fester wrote:
Top quality horseplay.
Few familiar faces from their j5 team.
Bunch of f**king wanks is what they are.
Dopes.
It’s been doing the rounds all week on what’s app. How thick do you have to be to video that
You have to come from private education to be thick enough to video it
You also have to come from private education to be thick enough to take part in it
What a bunch of knobs
Just meathead dopes, they maybe now realise they look like complete shams.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:51 pm
by Duff Paddy
earl the beaver wrote:jezzer wrote:ZappaMan wrote:He should have been in the original squad. I'd have him very close to starting on current form.
Great runner with vision and power but for me he lacks vision and smarts in distri ution and in contact (with and without the ball). He's a baller, in that he's talented, tough and motivated, but i dont think he has the smarts and vision for test level rugby. Yet anyway...
Well we don't know do we? He's been tearing it up for Ulster for the past year, scoring tries, creating tries, constantly making yards. Meanwhile the Aki and Henshaw have been picked at 12 for Ireland and been a mix of complete meh and downright gash.
Aki was man of the match in France yesterday
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:52 pm
by Uncle Fester
anonymous_joe wrote:Uncle Fester wrote:DOB wrote:Ulsters Red Hand wrote:jezzer wrote:
Great runner with vision and power but for me he lacks vision and smarts in distri ution and in contact (with and without the ball). He's a baller, in that he's talented, tough and motivated, but i dont think he has the smarts and vision for test level rugby. Yet anyway...
I actually think he's a better distributor than he's given credit for. But he plays to his strengths, so why would a 6'3, 17 stone centre be concerned with being a silky distributor?
As you say this is all talk so far given he hasn't got a fair shot yet. He could surprise a few
I remember a few seasons for Leinster and Ireland of Shane Horgan at 12 trying to play like Tim Horan. It was horribly frustrating. He finally got it right against South Africa in 04, but Darse was full-time at 12 by then, so Shaggy pretty much stayed out on the wing after.
He also played against Dewet Barry in that game and he was one of the most limited 12's of that era.
Didn't Barry have about 40 caps or something?
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SA were muck in that period around 2003 rwc.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:53 pm
by earl the beaver
Duff Paddy wrote:earl the beaver wrote:jezzer wrote:ZappaMan wrote:He should have been in the original squad. I'd have him very close to starting on current form.
Great runner with vision and power but for me he lacks vision and smarts in distri ution and in contact (with and without the ball). He's a baller, in that he's talented, tough and motivated, but i dont think he has the smarts and vision for test level rugby. Yet anyway...
Well we don't know do we? He's been tearing it up for Ulster for the past year, scoring tries, creating tries, constantly making yards. Meanwhile the Aki and Henshaw have been picked at 12 for Ireland and been a mix of complete meh and downright gash.
Aki was man of the match in France yesterday
And that changes how he played for Ireland in 2019 how?
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:03 am
by Ulsters Red Hand
rfurlong wrote:Felix Jones being eyed up by Ospreys according to Wales Online
In what capacity? Head coach would be a bit bizarre. Not sure if it's much of a technically astute upgrade on Clarke...
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:11 am
by Floppykid
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:rfurlong wrote:Felix Jones being eyed up by Ospreys according to Wales Online
In what capacity? Head coach would be a bit bizarre. Not sure if it's much of a technically astute upgrade on Clarke...
He single handedly won SA the world cup.
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:19 am
by DOB
Uncle Fester wrote:anonymous_joe wrote:Uncle Fester wrote:
He also played against Dewet Barry in that game and he was one of the most limited 12's of that era.
Didn't Barry have about 40 caps or something?
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SA were muck in that period around 2003 rwc.
SA were 3N champs at the time. They had just unearthed a handy young flanker named Schalk Burger, Matfield and Botha were at their best, and in a post-Cullen world, Percy Montgomery was considered by many to be the best fullback in the game. They were definitely coming out of their muck period.
Barry was limited going forward, but was in the side for his defence, which had kept the ABs flat backline attack quiet. As I recall, Shaggy more went after Jaco vdW’s lane in that game.
Which all distracts from my original point. If an inside center the size of McCloskey occasionally drew on the side of running an opponent over rather than passing outside, I won’t get too angry. It’s far preferable to the alternative extreme.
