Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:43 pm
When's DKs contract up ? Could see him heading south to join up with his brother.
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JoB is a future Lions captain.Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:32 pmLast few Lions tour we had a couple of back 3 players on tour and a good few who got test caps. Currently don't see any of this crop making it bar perhaps Lowe. Hopefully some of the other lads will become excellent players and think Larmour will stay on the wing going forward.hermie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:55 pmYeah absolutely. I don't think there's a shortage of good wingers though. More a lack of real top quality. I think Larmour will be a very good wing. I hope he's allowed focus on becoming one when he returns from injury. Then beyond that you'd hope that sheer numbers see us right for the other spot. Daly and Keenan are good options. The latter may well be back on the wing when he returns from Ireland duty given JOB's form at 15. There's obviously a huge upside to Stockdale if he can get his sh!t together. Balacoune is a really well-rounded player also. Whoever gets the 11 shirt at Ulster will push Lowe all the way I feel. Then you have the likes of Smith and Sexton coming through. Without forgetting Conway who up until recently was one of the most consistent players in the squad.Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:56 pmKiwis always have loads of top quality wingers coming through unlike us. If you have any slip in form you will be dropped like Savea, Ioane etc.
Lowe is stronger than our other options and a better all round footballer, good left boot as well. I reckon he will tested under the high ball tomorrow where he can be average and can be over eager in defence sometimes.
We're perhaps lacking, as I say, in real quality but there are enough options to pick on form and be pretty well set. More than any other position form counts for a lot with wingers so we could still emulate the Kiwis to a large extent in that regard.
I'm the opposite, started off kinda confident and as the week has gone by the realisation of how much better they are sunk in.Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:15 pm As the week has progressed I’ve started to feel more confident about tomorrow.
There is a fair chance we’ll get beaten but I could take a 23-16 loss if we brought a bit of blood and thunder, and had a real go at the kunts. Mixed it up physically with them, play dirty, hold guys on the ground etc., and maybe lose due to a lack of precision in attack or run out of steam after 65mins.
What will really depress me is if after 10 minutes its evident to the world we are in for another manshaming.
That pack they have is orders of magnitude better than ours.DeDoc wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:58 pm They're better on paper, and Jones really seems to have got them ticking well in the last year.
But, bear in mind their only rugby experience in the last 9 months or so has been Italy and Georgia
Their players haven't played much club rugby either. Premership regular season finished 7 weeks ago, so only the teams involved in playoffs (Exeter, Wasps, Bath and Bristol) have played any games since then. I think only 5 of their starting side are from those clubs - Joseph, Slade, Sinckler, Launchbury and Underhill
I don't know much about Lawrence, but Tuilagi is a massive loss for them. I also think they're a lot less dangerous with Farrel at 10 than Ford
rfurlong wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:15 pm I fancy our chances lads...
England are undercooked
Jones has been shooting his mouth off
The furriners will have their blood up having had their motivations/loyalties questioned
The other lads will be going out to stand up for their mates
We have a full back who is likely to catch the ball
We have a centre partnership who are limited but who can withstand the English runners
Ross Byrne is going to stand flat and bring Farrell onto the ball
JGP is going to keep the English backrow honest
POM is going to have his second good game of the year and make a bollix of the English lineout
Connors is going to come on like a beserker and chop the fvck out of everything in the second half
Doris is going to announce himself as the Lions no.8
Porter is going to cope with Vunipola
Its on lads ....... deep down you all fvcking know it too!
Bogbunny wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:19 pmrfurlong wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:15 pm I fancy our chances lads...
England are undercooked
Jones has been shooting his mouth off
The furriners will have their blood up having had their motivations/loyalties questioned
The other lads will be going out to stand up for their mates
We have a full back who is likely to catch the ball
We have a centre partnership who are limited but who can withstand the English runners
Ross Byrne is going to stand flat and bring Farrell onto the ball
JGP is going to keep the English backrow honest
POM is going to have his second good game of the year and make a bollix of the English lineout
Connors is going to come on like a beserker and chop the fvck out of everything in the second half
Doris is going to announce himself as the Lions no.8
Porter is going to cope with Vunipola
Its on lads ....... deep down you all fvcking know it too!
Good man, hitting the sherry early doors
Irish rugby doesn't seem to value wingers as the primary attacking outlet.irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:49 pm Yeah I've seen enough of larmour at 15. Stick him on the wing going forward.
Without wanting to offend my Northern brothers...I am beginning to think Hendo ain't all that great. He showed great promise and physicality when he was a very young lad, and had a few highlight reel carry/tackles. But for me he has yet to truly deliver on his early promise. He is getting to the stage where he is a bit like PoM, produces a big game every now and then but has never had a period of really great performances.YOYO wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:47 pmWith Henderson to come on when the game opens up, could work out well.Leinsterman wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:21 pm I'd actually like to think Roux can go Full Mongo and play like a proper Saffa second row tomorrow. Get stuck in and slap Itoje a few times in the rucks. If that happens, we have a sniff of a chance.
My biggest fear is their back row will overwhelm us and Ross will get hospital passes. If that's the case, we have nobody outside him to try something different and we'll then consistently lose yards
He's never become as good a 2nd row as Ferris was a flanker, which is probably the unfair-expectation he's been asked to meet, at a time when the whole back 5 of our pack isn't as good as it was then. He's still a very good 2nd row, and he's never gone the full-on 1-Tackle-Pete.shabadoo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:16 pmWithout wanting to offend my Northern brothers...I am beginning to think Hendo ain't all that great. He showed great promise and physicality when he was a very young lad, and had a few highlight reel carry/tackles. But for me he has yet to truly deliver on his early promise. He is getting to the stage where he is a bit like PoM, produces a big game every now and then but has never had a period of really great performances.YOYO wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:47 pmWith Henderson to come on when the game opens up, could work out well.Leinsterman wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:21 pm I'd actually like to think Roux can go Full Mongo and play like a proper Saffa second row tomorrow. Get stuck in and slap Itoje a few times in the rucks. If that happens, we have a sniff of a chance.
My biggest fear is their back row will overwhelm us and Ross will get hospital passes. If that's the case, we have nobody outside him to try something different and we'll then consistently lose yards
He will be under serious pressure for his place soon.
No shit.
I can’t see us winning but having a quicker scrum half is a big deal. I think it’s a big ask of Ross Byrne and hope he has a good game. The problem is that they’ve been bullying us the past few games, and it’s hard to see that changing tomorrow.rfurlong wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:15 pm I fancy our chances lads...
England are undercooked
Jones has been shooting his mouth off
The furriners will have their blood up having had their motivations/loyalties questioned
The other lads will be going out to stand up for their mates
We have a full back who is likely to catch the ball
We have a centre partnership who are limited but who can withstand the English runners
Ross Byrne is going to stand flat and bring Farrell onto the ball
JGP is going to keep the English backrow honest
POM is going to have his second good game of the year and make a bollix of the English lineout
Connors is going to come on like a beserker and chop the fvck out of everything in the second half
Doris is going to announce himself as the Lions no.8
Porter is going to cope with Vunipola
Its on lads ....... deep down you all fvcking know it too!
Whilst I'm always optimistic the night before a game, there is a big difference in standard of player. Watching Exeter v Quins now, Sam Simmonds and Dombrandt would both start for us, probably in the same backrow. Neither are in the England extended squad at the moment.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:29 pmI can’t see us winning but having a quicker scrum half is a big deal. I think it’s a big ask of Ross Byrne and hope he has a good game. The problem is that they’ve been bullying us the past few games, and it’s hard to see that changing tomorrow.rfurlong wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:15 pm I fancy our chances lads...
England are undercooked
Jones has been shooting his mouth off
The furriners will have their blood up having had their motivations/loyalties questioned
The other lads will be going out to stand up for their mates
We have a full back who is likely to catch the ball
We have a centre partnership who are limited but who can withstand the English runners
Ross Byrne is going to stand flat and bring Farrell onto the ball
JGP is going to keep the English backrow honest
POM is going to have his second good game of the year and make a bollix of the English lineout
Connors is going to come on like a beserker and chop the fvck out of everything in the second half
Doris is going to announce himself as the Lions no.8
Porter is going to cope with Vunipola
Its on lads ....... deep down you all fvcking know it too!
Trimble and Bowe were used fairly often off 1st phase.anonymous_joe wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:27 pmIrish rugby doesn't seem to value wingers as the primary attacking outlet.irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:49 pm Yeah I've seen enough of larmour at 15. Stick him on the wing going forward.
I am so proud of yourfurlong wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:15 pm I fancy our chances lads...
England are undercooked
Jones has been shooting his mouth off
The furriners will have their blood up having had their motivations/loyalties questioned
The other lads will be going out to stand up for their mates
We have a full back who is likely to catch the ball
We have a centre partnership who are limited but who can withstand the English runners
Ross Byrne is going to stand flat and bring Farrell onto the ball
JGP is going to keep the English backrow honest
POM is going to have his second good game of the year and make a bollix of the English lineout
Connors is going to come on like a beserker and chop the fvck out of everything in the second half
Doris is going to announce himself as the Lions no.8
Porter is going to cope with Vunipola
Its on lads ....... deep down you all fvcking know it too!
And I'm to horse it into Gwen Stefanirfurlong wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:15 pm I fancy our chances lads...
England are undercooked
Jones has been shooting his mouth off
The furriners will have their blood up having had their motivations/loyalties questioned
The other lads will be going out to stand up for their mates
We have a full back who is likely to catch the ball
We have a centre partnership who are limited but who can withstand the English runners
Ross Byrne is going to stand flat and bring Farrell onto the ball
JGP is going to keep the English backrow honest
POM is going to have his second good game of the year and make a bollix of the English lineout
Connors is going to come on like a beserker and chop the fvck out of everything in the second half
Doris is going to announce himself as the Lions no.8
Porter is going to cope with Vunipola
Its on lads ....... deep down you all fvcking know it too!
TwobackkaMr. Very Popular wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:19 amAnd I'm to horse it into Gwen Stefanirfurlong wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:15 pm I fancy our chances lads...
England are undercooked
Jones has been shooting his mouth off
The furriners will have their blood up having had their motivations/loyalties questioned
The other lads will be going out to stand up for their mates
We have a full back who is likely to catch the ball
We have a centre partnership who are limited but who can withstand the English runners
Ross Byrne is going to stand flat and bring Farrell onto the ball
JGP is going to keep the English backrow honest
POM is going to have his second good game of the year and make a bollix of the English lineout
Connors is going to come on like a beserker and chop the fvck out of everything in the second half
Doris is going to announce himself as the Lions no.8
Porter is going to cope with Vunipola
Its on lads ....... deep down you all fvcking know it too!
With you thereNolanator wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:47 pm Larmour missing this batch of games for Leinster and Ireland could be a bit of a blessing in disguise for both him and Keenan in terms of positional selections.
With Larmour out, Keenan has been fully backed at Leinster to play 15 (although, TBF, they had swapped positions already at the start of the season), and has gone on to start for Ireland with injuries etc.
When Larmour comes back, Keenan will be firmly embedded at 15, so there'll be less temptation to shift him back across and put Larmour there. Gives both of the guys more settled selections down the line.
Fair play for you for being somber on this weekend.
Micheal Collins is the anti-English movie of choice then.