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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:43 pm
by camroc1
When's DKs contract up ? Could see him heading south to join up with his brother.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:12 pm
by Flametop
camroc1 wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:43 pm When's DKs contract up ? Could see him heading south to join up with his brother.
Are London Irish not doing well?
Who’s his brother?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:15 pm
by Jim Lahey
As the week has progressed I’ve started to feel more confident about tomorrow.

There is a fair chance we’ll get beaten but I could take a 23-16 loss if we brought a bit of blood and thunder, and had a real go at the kunts. Mixed it up physically with them, play dirty, hold guys on the ground etc., and maybe lose due to a lack of precision in attack or run out of steam after 65mins.

What will really depress me is if after 10 minutes its evident to the world we are in for another manshaming.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:19 pm
by shabadoo
Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:32 pm
hermie wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:55 pm
Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:56 pm
hermie wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:22 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:56 am
Lowe is only 28, he’s fine for the next World Cup.
31 is old for a winger. NZ definitely wouldn't be in the habit of bringing 31 yr old wingers to a RWC. I suppose Ben Smith benched at the last one but he's really a fullback by trade. Plus someone genuinely world class.
Kiwis always have loads of top quality wingers coming through unlike us. If you have any slip in form you will be dropped like Savea, Ioane etc.
Lowe is stronger than our other options and a better all round footballer, good left boot as well. I reckon he will tested under the high ball tomorrow where he can be average and can be over eager in defence sometimes.
Yeah absolutely. I don't think there's a shortage of good wingers though. More a lack of real top quality. I think Larmour will be a very good wing. I hope he's allowed focus on becoming one when he returns from injury. Then beyond that you'd hope that sheer numbers see us right for the other spot. Daly and Keenan are good options. The latter may well be back on the wing when he returns from Ireland duty given JOB's form at 15. There's obviously a huge upside to Stockdale if he can get his sh!t together. Balacoune is a really well-rounded player also. Whoever gets the 11 shirt at Ulster will push Lowe all the way I feel. Then you have the likes of Smith and Sexton coming through. Without forgetting Conway who up until recently was one of the most consistent players in the squad.

We're perhaps lacking, as I say, in real quality but there are enough options to pick on form and be pretty well set. More than any other position form counts for a lot with wingers so we could still emulate the Kiwis to a large extent in that regard.
Last few Lions tour we had a couple of back 3 players on tour and a good few who got test caps. Currently don't see any of this crop making it bar perhaps Lowe. Hopefully some of the other lads will become excellent players and think Larmour will stay on the wing going forward.
JoB is a future Lions captain. ;)

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:31 pm
by shabadoo
Jim Lahey wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:15 pm As the week has progressed I’ve started to feel more confident about tomorrow.

There is a fair chance we’ll get beaten but I could take a 23-16 loss if we brought a bit of blood and thunder, and had a real go at the kunts. Mixed it up physically with them, play dirty, hold guys on the ground etc., and maybe lose due to a lack of precision in attack or run out of steam after 65mins.

What will really depress me is if after 10 minutes its evident to the world we are in for another manshaming.
I'm the opposite, started off kinda confident and as the week has gone by the realisation of how much better they are sunk in.

Agree with the rest of your post. For me it's all about the energy/intensity we can bring. The result is unimportant really

We'll hopefully be in far better shape come the 6N and be able to have a proper rattle at them then.

Just laying down a marker is good enough for now. A sneaky win would be pretty awesome though.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:58 pm
by DeDoc
They're better on paper, and Jones really seems to have got them ticking well in the last year.

But, bear in mind their only rugby experience in the last 9 months or so has been Italy and Georgia

Their players haven't played much club rugby either. Premership regular season finished 7 weeks ago, so only the teams involved in playoffs (Exeter, Wasps, Bath and Bristol) have played any games since then. I think only 5 of their starting side are from those clubs - Joseph, Slade, Sinckler, Launchbury and Underhill
I don't know much about Lawrence, but Tuilagi is a massive loss for them. I also think they're a lot less dangerous with Farrel at 10 than Ford

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:58 pm
by Floppykid
JOB,
Lowe
Keenan

With Larmor to come off the bench as he recovers in an effort to displace one.

JOB is very good, has great pace and a great brain.
I'd love to see him tested in the HEC.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:03 pm
by Floppykid
DeDoc wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:58 pm They're better on paper, and Jones really seems to have got them ticking well in the last year.

But, bear in mind their only rugby experience in the last 9 months or so has been Italy and Georgia

Their players haven't played much club rugby either. Premership regular season finished 7 weeks ago, so only the teams involved in playoffs (Exeter, Wasps, Bath and Bristol) have played any games since then. I think only 5 of their starting side are from those clubs - Joseph, Slade, Sinckler, Launchbury and Underhill
I don't know much about Lawrence, but Tuilagi is a massive loss for them. I also think they're a lot less dangerous with Farrel at 10 than Ford
That pack they have is orders of magnitude better than ours.
Kelleher and Porter are still very raw, Healy will struggle against such a brutal pack.
Second row is meh, hope they prove me wrong, but yeah.
I hope Doris doesn't go missing, Stander will be his usual workhorse self and POM, well maybe he'll roll back the years I dunno.

Our backline is just bang average.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:15 pm
by rfurlong
I fancy our chances lads...

England are undercooked

Jones has been shooting his mouth off

The furriners will have their blood up having had their motivations/loyalties questioned

The other lads will be going out to stand up for their mates

We have a full back who is likely to catch the ball

We have a centre partnership who are limited but who can withstand the English runners

Ross Byrne is going to stand flat and bring Farrell onto the ball

JGP is going to keep the English backrow honest

POM is going to have his second good game of the year and make a bollix of the English lineout

Connors is going to come on like a beserker and chop the fvck out of everything in the second half

Doris is going to announce himself as the Lions no.8

Porter is going to cope with Vunipola

Its on lads ....... deep down you all fvcking know it too!

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:19 pm
by Bogbunny
rfurlong wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:15 pm I fancy our chances lads...

England are undercooked

Jones has been shooting his mouth off

The furriners will have their blood up having had their motivations/loyalties questioned

The other lads will be going out to stand up for their mates

We have a full back who is likely to catch the ball

We have a centre partnership who are limited but who can withstand the English runners

Ross Byrne is going to stand flat and bring Farrell onto the ball

JGP is going to keep the English backrow honest

POM is going to have his second good game of the year and make a bollix of the English lineout

Connors is going to come on like a beserker and chop the fvck out of everything in the second half

Doris is going to announce himself as the Lions no.8

Porter is going to cope with Vunipola

Its on lads ....... deep down you all fvcking know it too!

Good man, hitting the sherry early doors :thumbup:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:21 pm
by Leinsterman
I'd actually like to think Roux can go Full Mongo and play like a proper Saffa second row tomorrow. Get stuck in and slap Itoje a few times in the rucks. If that happens, we have a sniff of a chance.
My biggest fear is their back row will overwhelm us and Ross will get hospital passes. If that's the case, we have nobody outside him to try something different and we'll then consistently lose yards

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:21 pm
by camroc1
Lowe is going to introduce "no arms" Farrell to an authentic Maori side step. :nod:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:24 pm
by rfurlong
Bogbunny wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:19 pm
rfurlong wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:15 pm I fancy our chances lads...

England are undercooked

Jones has been shooting his mouth off

The furriners will have their blood up having had their motivations/loyalties questioned

The other lads will be going out to stand up for their mates

We have a full back who is likely to catch the ball

We have a centre partnership who are limited but who can withstand the English runners

Ross Byrne is going to stand flat and bring Farrell onto the ball

JGP is going to keep the English backrow honest

POM is going to have his second good game of the year and make a bollix of the English lineout

Connors is going to come on like a beserker and chop the fvck out of everything in the second half

Doris is going to announce himself as the Lions no.8

Porter is going to cope with Vunipola

Its on lads ....... deep down you all fvcking know it too!

Good man, hitting the sherry early doors :thumbup:
:lol:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:27 pm
by anonymous_joe
irishrugbyua wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:49 pm Yeah I've seen enough of larmour at 15. Stick him on the wing going forward.
Irish rugby doesn't seem to value wingers as the primary attacking outlet.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:39 pm
by Conspicuous
Flametop wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:12 pm
camroc1 wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:43 pm When's DKs contract up ? Could see him heading south to join up with his brother.
Are London Irish not doing well?
Who’s his brother?

Dave Kearney not Declan Kidney

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:10 pm
by Floppykid
That's not a bad way to think of Roux, he's our budget Saffa second row.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:16 pm
by shabadoo
YOYO wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:47 pm
Leinsterman wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:21 pm I'd actually like to think Roux can go Full Mongo and play like a proper Saffa second row tomorrow. Get stuck in and slap Itoje a few times in the rucks. If that happens, we have a sniff of a chance.
My biggest fear is their back row will overwhelm us and Ross will get hospital passes. If that's the case, we have nobody outside him to try something different and we'll then consistently lose yards
With Henderson to come on when the game opens up, could work out well.
Without wanting to offend my Northern brothers...I am beginning to think Hendo ain't all that great. He showed great promise and physicality when he was a very young lad, and had a few highlight reel carry/tackles. But for me he has yet to truly deliver on his early promise. He is getting to the stage where he is a bit like PoM, produces a big game every now and then but has never had a period of really great performances.

He will be under serious pressure for his place soon.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:20 pm
by Floppykid
There's a picture of him doing a puzzle which pretty much captures his essence.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:25 pm
by DOB
shabadoo wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:16 pm
YOYO wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:47 pm
Leinsterman wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:21 pm I'd actually like to think Roux can go Full Mongo and play like a proper Saffa second row tomorrow. Get stuck in and slap Itoje a few times in the rucks. If that happens, we have a sniff of a chance.
My biggest fear is their back row will overwhelm us and Ross will get hospital passes. If that's the case, we have nobody outside him to try something different and we'll then consistently lose yards
With Henderson to come on when the game opens up, could work out well.
Without wanting to offend my Northern brothers...I am beginning to think Hendo ain't all that great. He showed great promise and physicality when he was a very young lad, and had a few highlight reel carry/tackles. But for me he has yet to truly deliver on his early promise. He is getting to the stage where he is a bit like PoM, produces a big game every now and then but has never had a period of really great performances.

He will be under serious pressure for his place soon.
He's never become as good a 2nd row as Ferris was a flanker, which is probably the unfair-expectation he's been asked to meet, at a time when the whole back 5 of our pack isn't as good as it was then. He's still a very good 2nd row, and he's never gone the full-on 1-Tackle-Pete.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:26 pm
by Floppykid
He's fulfilled his potential though, not nearly.
He seems totally switched off sometimes.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:29 pm
by Flametop
Conspicuous wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:39 pm
Flametop wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:12 pm
camroc1 wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:43 pm When's DKs contract up ? Could see him heading south to join up with his brother.
Are London Irish not doing well?
Who’s his brother?

Dave Kearney not Declan Kidney
No shit.

:lol:

Cam started the Kidney out thread that must have run to 1000 pages.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:29 pm
by Duff Paddy
rfurlong wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:15 pm I fancy our chances lads...

England are undercooked

Jones has been shooting his mouth off

The furriners will have their blood up having had their motivations/loyalties questioned

The other lads will be going out to stand up for their mates

We have a full back who is likely to catch the ball

We have a centre partnership who are limited but who can withstand the English runners

Ross Byrne is going to stand flat and bring Farrell onto the ball

JGP is going to keep the English backrow honest

POM is going to have his second good game of the year and make a bollix of the English lineout

Connors is going to come on like a beserker and chop the fvck out of everything in the second half

Doris is going to announce himself as the Lions no.8

Porter is going to cope with Vunipola

Its on lads ....... deep down you all fvcking know it too!
I can’t see us winning but having a quicker scrum half is a big deal. I think it’s a big ask of Ross Byrne and hope he has a good game. The problem is that they’ve been bullying us the past few games, and it’s hard to see that changing tomorrow.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:38 pm
by nabanoba
Duff Paddy wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:29 pm
rfurlong wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:15 pm I fancy our chances lads...

England are undercooked

Jones has been shooting his mouth off

The furriners will have their blood up having had their motivations/loyalties questioned

The other lads will be going out to stand up for their mates

We have a full back who is likely to catch the ball

We have a centre partnership who are limited but who can withstand the English runners

Ross Byrne is going to stand flat and bring Farrell onto the ball

JGP is going to keep the English backrow honest

POM is going to have his second good game of the year and make a bollix of the English lineout

Connors is going to come on like a beserker and chop the fvck out of everything in the second half

Doris is going to announce himself as the Lions no.8

Porter is going to cope with Vunipola

Its on lads ....... deep down you all fvcking know it too!
I can’t see us winning but having a quicker scrum half is a big deal. I think it’s a big ask of Ross Byrne and hope he has a good game. The problem is that they’ve been bullying us the past few games, and it’s hard to see that changing tomorrow.
Whilst I'm always optimistic the night before a game, there is a big difference in standard of player. Watching Exeter v Quins now, Sam Simmonds and Dombrandt would both start for us, probably in the same backrow. Neither are in the England extended squad at the moment.

Simmonds just scored a wonder try.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:06 pm
by Jim Lahey
I’ve stuck a 10er on us to win.
My waters have spoken.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:09 pm
by Willie Falloon
anonymous_joe wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:27 pm
irishrugbyua wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:49 pm Yeah I've seen enough of larmour at 15. Stick him on the wing going forward.
Irish rugby doesn't seem to value wingers as the primary attacking outlet.
Trimble and Bowe were used fairly often off 1st phase.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:11 pm
by Winnie
Jim Lahey wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:06 pm I’ve stuck a 10er on us to win.
My waters have spoken.
What odds did you get?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:12 pm
by Jim Lahey
Winnie wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:11 pm
Jim Lahey wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:06 pm I’ve stuck a 10er on us to win.
My waters have spoken.
What odds did you get?
11/2.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:40 pm
by Jim Lahey
YOYO wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:37 pm Just stuck on €30 on Ireland to win at 9/2 (PP). I meant to load in €10 to my PP a/c. It’s destiny, feel it in me waters.
:lol:

PP must have shit their pants at my massive £10 bet and slashed their odds. I’m a market mover :smug:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:18 pm
by danthefan
Jim Lahey wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:12 pm
Winnie wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:11 pm
Jim Lahey wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:06 pm I’ve stuck a 10er on us to win.
My waters have spoken.
What odds did you get?
11/2.
Mad you can get those sort of odds in a two horse race.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:39 pm
by CM11
Jaysus, that's not giving us much of a chance!

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:04 am
by Trostan
rfurlong wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:15 pm I fancy our chances lads...

England are undercooked

Jones has been shooting his mouth off

The furriners will have their blood up having had their motivations/loyalties questioned

The other lads will be going out to stand up for their mates

We have a full back who is likely to catch the ball

We have a centre partnership who are limited but who can withstand the English runners

Ross Byrne is going to stand flat and bring Farrell onto the ball

JGP is going to keep the English backrow honest

POM is going to have his second good game of the year and make a bollix of the English lineout

Connors is going to come on like a beserker and chop the fvck out of everything in the second half

Doris is going to announce himself as the Lions no.8

Porter is going to cope with Vunipola

Its on lads ....... deep down you all fvcking know it too!
I am so proud of you
If you were my son I'd leave you the 5 acres in Leitrim.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:13 am
by themaddog
Jim Lahey wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:06 pm I’ve stuck a 10er on us to win.
My waters have spoken.
Clearly you have a UTI.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:19 am
by Mr. Very Popular
rfurlong wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:15 pm I fancy our chances lads...

England are undercooked

Jones has been shooting his mouth off

The furriners will have their blood up having had their motivations/loyalties questioned

The other lads will be going out to stand up for their mates

We have a full back who is likely to catch the ball

We have a centre partnership who are limited but who can withstand the English runners

Ross Byrne is going to stand flat and bring Farrell onto the ball

JGP is going to keep the English backrow honest

POM is going to have his second good game of the year and make a bollix of the English lineout

Connors is going to come on like a beserker and chop the fvck out of everything in the second half

Doris is going to announce himself as the Lions no.8

Porter is going to cope with Vunipola

Its on lads ....... deep down you all fvcking know it too!
And I'm to horse it into Gwen Stefani

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:42 am
by rfurlong
Just backed us at 5/1

Our captains grandad was in the GPO in 1916 and it's the 100th anniversary of Bloody Sunday

Not even Stephen Kenny could fvck this up

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:28 am
by rialtoblue
Mr. Very Popular wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:19 am
rfurlong wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:15 pm I fancy our chances lads...

England are undercooked

Jones has been shooting his mouth off

The furriners will have their blood up having had their motivations/loyalties questioned

The other lads will be going out to stand up for their mates

We have a full back who is likely to catch the ball

We have a centre partnership who are limited but who can withstand the English runners

Ross Byrne is going to stand flat and bring Farrell onto the ball

JGP is going to keep the English backrow honest

POM is going to have his second good game of the year and make a bollix of the English lineout

Connors is going to come on like a beserker and chop the fvck out of everything in the second half

Doris is going to announce himself as the Lions no.8

Porter is going to cope with Vunipola

Its on lads ....... deep down you all fvcking know it too!
And I'm to horse it into Gwen Stefani
Twobackka

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:41 am
by Duff Paddy
rfurlong wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:42 am Just backed us at 5/1

Our captains grandad was in the GPO in 1916 and it's the 100th anniversary of Bloody Sunday

Not even Stephen Kenny could fvck this up
5/1 in a two horse race - what’s the head start

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:43 am
by Willie Falloon
rfurlong wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:42 am Just backed us at 5/1

Our captains grandad was in the GPO in 1916 and it's the 100th anniversary of Bloody Sunday

Not even Stephen Kenny could fvck this up
:|

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:13 am
by Mullet 2
Nolanator wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:47 pm Larmour missing this batch of games for Leinster and Ireland could be a bit of a blessing in disguise for both him and Keenan in terms of positional selections.
With Larmour out, Keenan has been fully backed at Leinster to play 15 (although, TBF, they had swapped positions already at the start of the season), and has gone on to start for Ireland with injuries etc.
When Larmour comes back, Keenan will be firmly embedded at 15, so there'll be less temptation to shift him back across and put Larmour there. Gives both of the guys more settled selections down the line.
With you there

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:14 am
by Mullet 2
Willie Falloon wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:43 am
rfurlong wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:42 am Just backed us at 5/1

Our captains grandad was in the GPO in 1916 and it's the 100th anniversary of Bloody Sunday

Not even Stephen Kenny could fvck this up
:|
Fair play for you for being somber on this weekend.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:17 am
by Zico
rfurlong wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:42 am Just backed us at 5/1

Our captains grandad was in the GPO in 1916 and it's the 100th anniversary of Bloody Sunday

Not even Stephen Kenny could fvck this up
Micheal Collins is the anti-English movie of choice then.

100 years since they stormed Croker near enough.