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Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:41 pm Tough aul watch that, who are we blaming?

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:42 pm Ah never mind I see the Nordies have settled on the only positional fullback we have.

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:41 pm Tough aul watch that, who are we blaming?

Winnie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:44 pm

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:41 pm Tough aul watch that, who are we blaming?

Farrell

Risteard wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:41 pm Stepping away from the Irish team at the moment, anyone involved in clubs at the moment, how are ye finding things?

Imagine it's the same everywhere in terms of tightening of funds and trying to fundraise, curious as to what others are doing considering what I'd imagine is a major source of income, the club bar, being shut off as well as potentially reduced intake from more traditional fundraising as people not meeting others in person.

Difficult times, notwithstanding the uncertainty around playing. We got about three games under our belt with games being suspended just as the league was about to start.

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:47 pm I'm sure it has been done to death but can anybody tell me why you pick two lumps with bad hands in the centre and then play deep?

Like I could see the logic in his selection and then the tactics were bananas

feckwanker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:50 pm The horrible thing about this match was at no point throughout it did it ever look like the lads thought "We can win this" or "We should be ahead". It reminds me of the players mentality of when they used to face the AIG (tm) Adidas (C) New Zealand All Blacks years ago. They were beaten before they got on to the pitch.

feckwanker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:53 pm

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:47 pm I'm sure it has been done to death but can anybody tell me why you pick two lumps with bad hands in the centre and then play deep?

Like I could see the logic in his selection and then the tactics were bananas

Doesn't help when their OH is standing as deep as them.

Winnie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:54 pm

feckwanker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:50 pm The horrible thing about this match was at no point throughout it did it ever look like the lads thought "We can win this" or "We should be ahead". It reminds me of the players mentality of when they used to face the AIG (tm) Adidas (C) New Zealand All Blacks years ago. They were beaten before they got on to the pitch.

I think this came from the captain
Ryan looked a beaten man from the start

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:47 pm I'm sure it has been done to death but can anybody tell me why you pick two lumps with bad hands in the centre and then play deep?

Like I could see the logic in his selection and then the tactics were bananas

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:47 pm I'm sure it has been done to death but can anybody tell me why you pick two lumps with bad hands in the centre and then play deep?

Like I could see the logic in his selection and then the tactics were bananas

shabadoo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:38 pm

Bogbunny wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:34 pm

shabadoo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:23 pm

Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:19 pm Your final point deserves more attention tbf.
We won 7-0 when he brought on the Ulster players.

Hendo looked good when he came on tbf. And Burns, who I have been shitting all over, played a brazillion times better than Byrne

I don't think even the most diehard Ulster fan thinks that King Billy is the answer for Ireland, or Ulster.

Total waste of a cap (or 2)

Agreed unfortunately.

But who the fúck do you cap? Byrne sure as shit isn't up to it. And the rest are too young. We're fúcked for a while at 10 I think.

Should go the bergamasco route and just play a forward at 9 and 10(if Sexton is injured)

Winnie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:54 pm

feckwanker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:50 pm The horrible thing about this match was at no point throughout it did it ever look like the lads thought "We can win this" or "We should be ahead". It reminds me of the players mentality of when they used to face the AIG (tm) Adidas (C) New Zealand All Blacks years ago. They were beaten before they got on to the pitch.

I think this came from the captain
Ryan looked a beaten man from the start

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:55 pm

Winnie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:54 pm

feckwanker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:50 pm The horrible thing about this match was at no point throughout it did it ever look like the lads thought "We can win this" or "We should be ahead". It reminds me of the players mentality of when they used to face the AIG (tm) Adidas (C) New Zealand All Blacks years ago. They were beaten before they got on to the pitch.

I think this came from the captain
Ryan looked a beaten man from the start

Winnie in heaven

feckwanker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:59 pm

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:55 pm

Winnie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:54 pm

feckwanker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:50 pm The horrible thing about this match was at no point throughout it did it ever look like the lads thought "We can win this" or "We should be ahead". It reminds me of the players mentality of when they used to face the AIG (tm) Adidas (C) New Zealand All Blacks years ago. They were beaten before they got on to the pitch.

I think this came from the captain
Ryan looked a beaten man from the start

Winnie in heaven

Tbf, Itojie has had Ryan in his pocket for a while now. Must be pretty demoralising to take to the pitch in front of the whole world knowing your opposite number could spank you.

Flametop wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:03 pm Have to say that even England’s smaller players smashed our bigger ones.

Limited team but terrific defence both individually and as a unit.

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:57 pm Twice at the end Murray passed flat to Farrell and both times he punched a hole over the gainline.

Like that is really basic stuff.

Big lad, play flay. Like really basic.

Leinsterman wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:52 pm

Risteard wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:41 pm Stepping away from the Irish team at the moment, anyone involved in clubs at the moment, how are ye finding things?

Imagine it's the same everywhere in terms of tightening of funds and trying to fundraise, curious as to what others are doing considering what I'd imagine is a major source of income, the club bar, being shut off as well as potentially reduced intake from more traditional fundraising as people not meeting others in person.

Difficult times, notwithstanding the uncertainty around playing. We got about three games under our belt with games being suspended just as the league was about to start.

We're ok for this season. Still taking in subs and no IRFU insurance or pitch rent to pay at the moment so the bank balance isn't dwindling too much.
Still scratching our heads because the usual fund raisers like pub quizzes are impossible to do at the moment but we have an idea or two to raise funds for specific equipment.
I reckon we'll be fine but I can see how bigger clubs are in big trouble.

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:09 pm

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:57 pm Twice at the end Murray passed flat to Farrell and both times he punched a hole over the gainline.

Like that is really basic stuff.

Big lad, play flay. Like really basic.

We played off 9 far more when Murray came on, JGP passed it to Byrne who was so deep our attacks were miles behind the gain line when contact happened.

I know it's hard when the pack is retreating but our inability to change approach kills us.

Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:07 pm

feckwanker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:59 pm

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:55 pm

Winnie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:54 pm

feckwanker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:50 pm The horrible thing about this match was at no point throughout it did it ever look like the lads thought "We can win this" or "We should be ahead". It reminds me of the players mentality of when they used to face the AIG (tm) Adidas (C) New Zealand All Blacks years ago. They were beaten before they got on to the pitch.

I think this came from the captain
Ryan looked a beaten man from the start

Winnie in heaven

Tbf, Itojie has had Ryan in his pocket for a while now. Must be pretty demoralising to take to the pitch in front of the whole world knowing your opposite number could spank you.

Especially when Shaggy blew his load using superlatives just before kick off describing how great Ryan was.

I know the lad has had injury that he probably hasn’t fully recovered from but today should be a massive wake up call for him.

Itoje, Launchbury, Lawes and AWJ are all probably going on the Lions tour (if it goes ahead). He needs to really put the foot down form-wise in the next five months to be in that conversation and duffing sides in a Leinster jersey won’t cut it if he’s not performing at international level.

He can do it, we know he has the ability. He just needs to start dominating games like POC did, like Itoje does at present.

feckwanker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:59 pm

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:55 pm

Winnie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:54 pm

feckwanker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:50 pm The horrible thing about this match was at no point throughout it did it ever look like the lads thought "We can win this" or "We should be ahead". It reminds me of the players mentality of when they used to face the AIG (tm) Adidas (C) New Zealand All Blacks years ago. They were beaten before they got on to the pitch.

I think this came from the captain
Ryan looked a beaten man from the start

Winnie in heaven

Tbf, Itojie has had Ryan in his pocket for a while now. Must be pretty demoralising to take to the pitch in front of the whole world knowing your opposite number could spank you.

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:09 pm

Flametop wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:03 pm Have to say that even England’s smaller players smashed our bigger ones.

Limited team but terrific defence both individually and as a unit.

Yeah I do also firmly believe they are juiced to their eyeballs

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:09 pm

Flametop wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:03 pm Have to say that even England’s smaller players smashed our bigger ones.

Limited team but terrific defence both individually and as a unit.

Yeah I do also firmly believe they are juiced to their eyeballs

redderneck wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:15 pm He's too nice.

Even Leo FFS, the Curly Wurly head on him, had an edge to him that comes from looking at an ugly fcuker in the mirror every morning when you're shaving and knowing it's only going to get worse. He was by no means a thug, but he got the max out of himself.

Ryan's not doing that. I hope it's the shoulder hangover and hope it's only a matter of time.

Not enthused by the job Easterby is doing. At all.

At all.

feckwanker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:18 pm

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:09 pm

Flametop wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:03 pm Have to say that even England’s smaller players smashed our bigger ones.

Limited team but terrific defence both individually and as a unit.

Yeah I do also firmly believe they are juiced to their eyeballs

Do you honestly believe that we're squeaky clean?

camroc1 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:14 pm I'm more interested to see does Farrell,and therefore the team, learn from todays experience. The new year will tell us.

redderneck wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:15 pm He's too nice.

Even Leo FFS, the Curly Wurly head on him, had an edge to him that comes from looking at an ugly fcuker in the mirror every morning when you're shaving and knowing it's only going to get worse. He was by no means a thug, but he got the max out of himself.

Ryan's not doing that. I hope it's the shoulder hangover and hope it's only a matter of time.

Not enthused by the job Easterby is doing. At all.

At all.

camroc1 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:14 pm This was a nothing match in a nothing competition, and Farrell decided on an approach that didn't work.

Doesn't matter a damn in the long run, bar he learns and plans different strategies against England next 6N.

FWIW I think England are busy learning how to run up their own arse, and their approach won't work against France or SA. I also think that refs will be made aware of their 'cuteness' at the breakdown.

I'm more interested to see does Farrell,and therefore the team, learn from todays experience. The new year will tell us.

feckwanker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:22 pm

redderneck wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:15 pm He's too nice.

Even Leo FFS, the Curly Wurly head on him, had an edge to him that comes from looking at an ugly fcuker in the mirror every morning when you're shaving and knowing it's only going to get worse. He was by no means a thug, but he got the max out of himself.

Ryan's not doing that. I hope it's the shoulder hangover and hope it's only a matter of time.

Not enthused by the job Easterby is doing. At all.

At all.

Yep he's too nice. He needs to learn the dark arts - how to give sly digs in rucks, holding lads on the ground long after the tackle is complete and other such shithousery.