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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:27 pm
by Bogbunny
Flametop wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:25 pm Why was Farrell deemed to deserve to be head coach of Ireland? What had he achieved to merit getting the head coach gig?

Particularly having no head coaching experience to base the decision on.
Phillip fukin Browne ????

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:29 pm
by Flametop
camroc1 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:27 pm Farrell has been head coach for a wet week, much of which was spent in Covid lockdown.

I'm not shy about calling out coaches, but I do like to give them a fair chance first.
That’s not the point I raised.
I questioned why he was given the job in the first place.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:31 pm
by camroc1
Flametop wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:29 pm
camroc1 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:27 pm Farrell has been head coach for a wet week, much of which was spent in Covid lockdown.

I'm not shy about calling out coaches, but I do like to give them a fair chance first.
That’s not the point I raised.
I questioned why he was given the job in the first place.
Continuity, for starters.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:31 pm
by Flametop
Have to say I was surprised by just how fast JGP is.
Bad game aside he was nearly keeping up in the foot race with May.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:33 pm
by Winnie
Nolanator wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:21 pm
camroc1 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:14 pm I'm more interested to see does Farrell,and therefore the team, learn from todays experience. The new year will tell us.
I'd be pretty confident in hazarding a guess at the answer now.
Well he sat there in Japan and saw us being shit and has changed nothing

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:33 pm
by Flametop
camroc1 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:31 pm
Flametop wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:29 pm
camroc1 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:27 pm Farrell has been head coach for a wet week, much of which was spent in Covid lockdown.

I'm not shy about calling out coaches, but I do like to give them a fair chance first.
That’s not the point I raised.
I questioned why he was given the job in the first place.
Continuity, for starters.
We were shit, we needed change not continuity.
Schmidt was/is Ireland’s most successful coach and he’s brought a few best ever moments but he was a busted flush by the end.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:35 pm
by Fruit and Nutt
Mullet 2 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:09 pm
Flametop wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:03 pm Have to say that even England’s smaller players smashed our bigger ones.

Limited team but terrific defence both individually and as a unit.
Yeah I do also firmly believe they are juiced to their eyeballs

Michelle says hi

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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:36 pm
by Flametop
Can she play 10?

*rubs hands together*

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:37 pm
by camroc1
I believe she's a barrister these days, so watch what you say.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:40 pm
by Bogbunny
camroc1 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:37 pm I believe she's a barrister these days, so watch what you say.
and just when you thought she couldn't get any lower !! :shock:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:41 pm
by Winnie
camroc1 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:37 pm I believe she's a barrister these days, so watch what you say.
She was a cheat
She could be the best barrister Ireland ever produced

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:42 pm
by Flametop
It’s a bit ironic after all this time that McGregor makes a fortune pretending piss is whiskey.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:51 pm
by alliswell
Flametop wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:36 pm Can she play 10?

*rubs hands together*
With shoulders like that she could play Hooker

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:59 pm
by alliswell
feckwanker wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:22 pm
redderneck wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:15 pm He's too nice.

Even Leo FFS, the Curly Wurly head on him, had an edge to him that comes from looking at an ugly fcuker in the mirror every morning when you're shaving and knowing it's only going to get worse. He was by no means a thug, but he got the max out of himself.

Ryan's not doing that. I hope it's the shoulder hangover and hope it's only a matter of time.

Not enthused by the job Easterby is doing. At all.

At all.
Yep he's too nice. He needs to learn the dark arts - how to give sly digs in rucks, holding lads on the ground long after the tackle is complete and other such shithousery.
Would be nice. I saw a gif being given the big thumbs up the other day of Itoje getting roughed up by Stander and someone (maybe Ryan) at a ruck. If you looked at it closely though, play was moving on and our two lads were trying to free themselves to follow it. Itoje no doubt delighted to take our two hardest working forwards out of the game for a bit.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:10 am
by Jumper
Mullet 2 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:57 pm Twice at the end Murray passed flat to Farrell and both times he punched a hole over the gainline.

Like that is really basic stuff.

Big lad, play flay. Like really basic.
That was when Murray took things on himself and began to bypass the empty jersey at 10. It was great leadership from Murray after his introduction.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:12 am
by Jumper
Flametop wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:31 pm Have to say I was surprised by just how fast JGP is.
Bad game aside he was nearly keeping up in the foot race with May.
Lowe wasn't even arsed to jog back.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:31 am
by Mullet 2
feckwanker wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:18 pm
Mullet 2 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:09 pm
Flametop wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:03 pm Have to say that even England’s smaller players smashed our bigger ones.

Limited team but terrific defence both individually and as a unit.
Yeah I do also firmly believe they are juiced to their eyeballs
Do you honestly believe that we're squeaky clean?

:lol:
Seems we need a new chemist so

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:36 am
by Flametop
I think we could employ Shane Byrne as lineout throwing coach. The opposition out halves seem to know we are going to throw it to them.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:37 am
by Mullet 2
camroc1 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:27 pm Farrell has been head coach for a wet week, much of which was spent in Covid lockdown.

I'm not shy about calling out coaches, but I do like to give them a fair chance first.
I'm no drama queen but when a lad picking two lumps and then playing flat isn't a "he tried something" situation. It's a what the fùck sort of professional coach does that situation.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:40 am
by Mullet 2
Jumper wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:10 am
Mullet 2 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:57 pm Twice at the end Murray passed flat to Farrell and both times he punched a hole over the gainline.

Like that is really basic stuff.

Big lad, play flay. Like really basic.
That was when Murray took things on himself and began to bypass the empty jersey at 10. It was great leadership from Murray after his introduction.
You're a geeky spa on the internet. Quit pretending you're a real man.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:43 am
by hermie
Flametop wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:18 pm
feckwanker wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:18 pm
Mullet 2 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:09 pm
Flametop wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:03 pm Have to say that even England’s smaller players smashed our bigger ones.

Limited team but terrific defence both individually and as a unit.
Yeah I do also firmly believe they are juiced to their eyeballs
Do you honestly believe that we're squeaky clean?

:lol:
Are we just shit at juicing as well.

:lol:
:lol:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:46 am
by Mullet 2
Winnie wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:11 pm
hermie wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:24 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:22 pm Everything thrown at him?
Solid, certainly in comparison to Stockdale
Nonsense
Stockdale has as many negatives against France as Keenan had today
Stockdale has 4 times the positives against France as Keenan had today
Nonsense.

For evidence I cite one poster. Winnie something
It was only in sixth form did he blossom and he was a classy centre
I do think he lacks courage
He looks afraid of getting hurt and still reminds me very much of a medallion B player in that aspect
Nobody who isn't a gobshite could accuse Keenan of lacking courage.

This little plan the Nordies have of waiting two weeks and then claiming Jacob had a stormer isn't going to fly.

Earl also basically called him a chickenshit.

Spare us like. I was actually less harsh on the lad than you boys were before you decide to circle the wagons.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:18 am
by Winnie
That is so cute and even a little bit proud that mullet spent his Saturday night searching my posts
I’ll admit I’m one of jacobs biggest critics basically because I know how good he can be but i can see his problem areas
With his flaws he still offers more potential than any of the back 3 options
The thing Leinster fans seem to struggle with is that you can support a player and also point out his flaws

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:20 am
by Winnie
Also Keenan had 1.5 stormer games producing 1 try
Jacob had had(according to Leinster fan) 0 stormer games and has 2 tries

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:56 am
by camroc1
Mullet 2 wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:37 am
camroc1 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:27 pm Farrell has been head coach for a wet week, much of which was spent in Covid lockdown.

I'm not shy about calling out coaches, but I do like to give them a fair chance first.
I'm no drama queen but when a lad picking two lumps and then playing flat isn't a "he tried something" situation. It's a what the fùck sort of professional coach does that situation.
Tried to answer it earlier, but I agree, if you're trying to pass the ball beyond an umbrella defence, Aki and Farrell wouldn't be the centres you'd pick.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:19 am
by Mullet 2
Winnie wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:18 am That is so cute and even a little bit proud that mullet spent his Saturday night searching my posts
I’ll admit I’m one of jacobs biggest critics basically because I know how good he can be but i can see his problem areas
With his flaws he still offers more potential than any of the back 3 options
The thing Leinster fans seem to struggle with is that you can support a player and also point out his flaws
I love how this is now the stock line whenever you confront somebody with their own posts.

Would you like to know the extent of it there tech genius? I clicked your name I click searched posts I typed the word afraid and sure enough, second post.

Now that may constitute spending my might searching but let's face it. Wouldn't be the first time Ulster rewrote history. Another two weeks and Stockdale will have had France on the ropes.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:30 am
by Willie Falloon
Mullet 2 wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:19 am
Winnie wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:18 am That is so cute and even a little bit proud that mullet spent his Saturday night searching my posts
I’ll admit I’m one of jacobs biggest critics basically because I know how good he can be but i can see his problem areas
With his flaws he still offers more potential than any of the back 3 options
The thing Leinster fans seem to struggle with is that you can support a player and also point out his flaws
I love how this is now the stock line whenever you confront somebody with their own posts.

Would you like to know the extent of it there tech genius? I clicked your name I click searched posts I typed the word afraid and sure enough, second post.

Now that may constitute spending my might searching but let's face it. Wouldn't be the first time Ulster rewrote history. Another two weeks and Stockdale will have had France on the ropes.
Don't think anyone stated Stockdale had France on the ropes.

Winnie shouldn't be getting himself too worried, it isn't the 1st Leinster youngster with average skills to be hyped up as the next big thing, he'll soon disappear until the next young hope comes through.

They're just annoyed they haven't produced a pair of wingers like Trimble and Bowe, nevermind Stockdale and Bacloune.

Big quick and athletic. It's in the genes. :nod:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:38 am
by Mullet 2
If you think the first positional fullback we have is going to disappear you know as much about rugby as this soccer head.

This is the first time in two years we were able to stand up to Englands kick and chase game.

You know your rugby so cut the one eyed bullshit, picking a lad who is poor positionally and who his own supports consider a chicken is nonsense.

It's like picking a prop who can't scrummage because he has nice hands.

Every position has job one and unless you are flat out lying you know the lads issues. Try to point to France as a one off and I'll take "my whole morning" to search "Toulouse Stockdale and tackle".

Wanting a guy picked you know needs a good dropping and a bollocking because he's your boy is sooo Irish rugby :lol:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:04 am
by feckwanker
Willie Falloon wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:30 am
Mullet 2 wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:19 am
Winnie wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:18 am That is so cute and even a little bit proud that mullet spent his Saturday night searching my posts
I’ll admit I’m one of jacobs biggest critics basically because I know how good he can be but i can see his problem areas
With his flaws he still offers more potential than any of the back 3 options
The thing Leinster fans seem to struggle with is that you can support a player and also point out his flaws
I love how this is now the stock line whenever you confront somebody with their own posts.

Would you like to know the extent of it there tech genius? I clicked your name I click searched posts I typed the word afraid and sure enough, second post.

Now that may constitute spending my might searching but let's face it. Wouldn't be the first time Ulster rewrote history. Another two weeks and Stockdale will have had France on the ropes.
Don't think anyone stated Stockdale had France on the ropes.

Winnie shouldn't be getting himself too worried, it isn't the 1st Leinster youngster with average skills to be hyped up as the next big thing, he'll soon disappear until the next young hope comes through.

They're just annoyed they haven't produced a pair of wingers like Trimble and Bowe, nevermind Stockdale and Bacloune.

Big quick and athletic. It's in the genes. :nod:
The irony of you of all people talking about 'hyped up' players from other provinces is hilarious.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:09 am
by Mullet 2
I know right.

We need a new ball playing centre and its Hume clearly because the lads who haven't lost a league game for 1.5 seasons arent up to it.

Frawley etc

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:15 am
by Jim Lahey
What’s Faz’s scope like to bring in lads to the squad given the rules around covid bubbles etc.?
We really need H. Byrne, Casey, Frawley and a few others to shake things up.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:17 am
by Jim Lahey
EverReady wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:14 am If I was the Nordies I would strike out on their own like the footballers. Good luck and I hope the whole Brexit thing and the thing with the Shinners goes well. Now that's that sorted
I bet you’d miss seeing PoM belting out Ireland’s Call with all of his pashun and honesty though.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:23 am
by Bogbunny
EverReady wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:19 am We are bringing D Ryan back for ultra gurning

He's signed for Randalstown this morning on a 2 year deal.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:29 am
by ZuLu
Even our hashtags are dogshit at the moment, #TeamOfUs :uhoh:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:06 am
by Ulsters Red Hand
Did anyone really expect anything different?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:09 am
by Bogbunny
Ulsters Red Hand wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:06 am Did anyone really expect anything different?
Not Mr Farrell anyway

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:36 am
by hermie
If I was Farrell I would be trying to hire Jared Payne as a defence coach, let Easterby go back to his old role and replace Catt with Lancaster. To hire from within might be the path of least resistance. But in reality instead of wrecking the provinces to plug holes in the Ireland ship, Irish rugby would be better served trying to get a McCall or a Scott Robertson and letting them pick their backroom. Poaching Gibbes and ROG from La Rochelle, who are doing great and know Irish rugby very well, could be another option.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:38 am
by redderneck
I am not going to put myself through watching that game again, but would be interested to know CJ’s stats. Although they never tell the full story- you need Murray K’ s fullbore ruck involvements, positive etc for a better snapshot.

Don’t think I heard his name once. Struggling to recall him being on the ball. Albeit I was watching Ch4 and having to listen to Nolly whatserface doing a Meg Ryan impression anytime Itoje raised an eyebrow. Spent the second half wishing Fla’ would just fcuk his media career away by asking her if she’d managed to find her g-spot yet.

Was he just buried in the donkey shit of having to support his front five or was he just having a ‘mare? He is the most consistent forward in the country generally. Odd one.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:47 am
by earl the beaver
hermie wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:36 am If I was Farrell I would be trying to hire Jared Payne as a defence coach, let Easterby go back to his old role and replace Catt with Lancaster. To hire from within might be the path of least resistance. But in reality instead of wrecking the provinces to plug holes in the Ireland ship, Irish rugby would be better served trying to get a McCall or a Scott Robertson and letting them pick their backroom. Poaching Gibbes and ROG from La Rochelle, who are doing great and know Irish rugby very well, could be another option.
Gibbe won't coach in Ireland again. Burnt his bridges after the Ulster debacle.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:52 am
by Nolanator
redderneck wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:38 am having to listen to Nolly whatserface doing a Meg Ryan impression anytime Itoje raised an eyebrow. Spent the second half wishing Fla’ would just fcuk his media career away by asking her if she’d managed to find her g-spot yet.
:lol:
You are getting cancelled so hard.