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I take solace from the emergence of the new lads and the Larmour try. But at the end of the day we lost at home to a greatly depleted Sarries team. Not a good day.
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Well done Sarries. Ground Leinster out and got big moments when it mattered in the second.
Healy isn't able to do the tight stuff/fundamentals as well as he used to at European level.
Sexton isn't doing a Brady and there are other obvious older players who aren't doing it.
It was encouraging how good Baird et. All were.
Henshaw should come under pressure for his place hopefully.
Healy isn't able to do the tight stuff/fundamentals as well as he used to at European level.
Sexton isn't doing a Brady and there are other obvious older players who aren't doing it.
It was encouraging how good Baird et. All were.
Henshaw should come under pressure for his place hopefully.
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McGrath was poor. I thought JGP sped things up and they got over the gainline much more as a result.MunsterMan!!!!! wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:11 pmKelleher - the lineout had been an issue for the previous few match, leo obviously thought it was down to him.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:04 pmBig questions to be answered as to why they didn’t start. JGP, Kelleher and Baird looked twice the players they replaced
JGP - not sure, mcgrath probably looked good against munster/ulster sides that are many many levels below sarries, he reverted to type with the pressure they applied.
Baird - he looks good
Larmour was very poor. I like him, and because he's still young, I'd persist with him, but they really need to work on his aerial skills because he shows very little conviction or confidence on high balls. He also didn't need to try the offload near the end. They had made good ground and just needed to retain it. Relatively conservative phase play would have been the better option as Saracens were out on their feet - they obviously were reluctant to use their bench even with their front liners gassing hard.
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They gave it to the wrong manMunsterMan!!!!! wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:14 pm Are BT trying to change MOM to the "star of the match" ?
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Have to say I thought that the ref just didn’t want to punish Saracens with a deserved cards every time Leinster got into their 22. Cynical play went unpunished.
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The old guard aren't doing it anymore at all.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:15 pm I take solace from the emergence of the new lads and the Larmour try. But at the end of the day we lost at home to a greatly depleted Sarries team. Not a good day.
Hopefully central contracts don't impede things with getting new players in, want to see H Byrne and R Byrne move past an aged Sexton.
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Agree 100%, they just do the basics with power and aggressionConservative Eddie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:11 pmActually the most impressive thing about Saracens is the way the entire squad is so well drilled. Even guys that they pick up from championship sides are coached to fit in to their system and deliver. Whether it's McCall or the rest of his staff, they clearly know their stuff.Leinsterbloke wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:06 pmBut maybe he would coach the players he has to win, like he does at his current job. It's not a new idea to get the best coach infranch fan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:59 pmI don't think him becoming the Irish coach will make players like Itoje or the Vunipola brothers naturalizing Irish.
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Frawley deserves a shot at 10.
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Look, we got dicked in the scrums bit the point stands.
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It was the main Sarries pack though.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:15 pm I take solace from the emergence of the new lads and the Larmour try. But at the end of the day we lost at home to a greatly depleted Sarries team. Not a good day.
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It’s a self fulfilling prophecy then.
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Warburton says it like it is
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Frawley looks more and more like the better option at 12. Whatever about the older players, which Irish rugby is notoriously bad at giving the heave ho, Henshaw ought to be under serious pressure. But then we get back to central contracts and reputation and the role it plays in selection even when players are second best to an alternative.Floppykid wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:16 pm Well done Sarries. Ground Leinster out and got big moments when it mattered in the second.
Healy isn't able to do the tight stuff/fundamentals as well as he used to at European level.
Sexton isn't doing a Brady and there are other obvious older players who aren't doing it.
It was encouraging how good Baird et. All were.
Henshaw should come under pressure for his place hopefully.
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iarmhiman wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:19 pmIt was the main Sarries pack though.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:15 pm I take solace from the emergence of the new lads and the Larmour try. But at the end of the day we lost at home to a greatly depleted Sarries team. Not a good day.
Kruis, Earl, Lamositele, Isiekwe all missing from either the starting XV or the bench.
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I like Larmour, but he is just not good enough in the air.
Himself and Keenan should switch position. I think Keenan prefers 15. He was really really good today.
Himself and Keenan should switch position. I think Keenan prefers 15. He was really really good today.
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Soon? Long overdue.
I've always been nervy about pundits et all calling Sexton Leinsters big game 10 the past couple of months.
He hasn't been able to play well against great teams in a long time.
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Thought Leinster looked stale last few games.
That Larmour try was the only bit of real creativity last 5 games.
History shows after significant defeats Leinster go back and improve their game. Needs to happen again.
We've been MOC like in attack last few games.
If there was one positive it was the hits on Vunipola and Itoje. The tackling was excellent. We were undone by one brilliant offload
That Larmour try was the only bit of real creativity last 5 games.
History shows after significant defeats Leinster go back and improve their game. Needs to happen again.
We've been MOC like in attack last few games.
If there was one positive it was the hits on Vunipola and Itoje. The tackling was excellent. We were undone by one brilliant offload
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Agreed. He was certainly head and shoulders above Henshaw today.
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How is leo escaping criticism ? The whole team was so flat in the first half, he didn't have them dialed in at all.
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We've been having it. From what I've read he played behind a manshamed pack so whadda he going to do. I see Itoje again made pricks of us. Will we ever learn
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Skelton, Singleton, Juan FigalloFruit and Nutt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:23 pmiarmhiman wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:19 pmIt was the main Sarries pack though.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:15 pm I take solace from the emergence of the new lads and the Larmour try. But at the end of the day we lost at home to a greatly depleted Sarries team. Not a good day.
Kruis, Earl, Lamositele, Isiekwe all missing from either the starting XV or the bench.
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Don't get the Sexton bashing tbh, thought he played pretty well bar the restart.
His pass for the Larmour try was what made it. Made all his kicks.
Felt we did well enough with the ball we had...just had fudge all because our scrum was hammered.
His pass for the Larmour try was what made it. Made all his kicks.
Felt we did well enough with the ball we had...just had fudge all because our scrum was hammered.
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Haven’t read the last couple of pages but hard luck ladies.
That shite 1st half left you too much to do in the end.
Think that’s gotta be the end of Dev unfortunately. Baird made a massive difference in the 2nd half.
Scrum is very worrying from an Ireland pov. Absolutely obliterated.
Thought Connors had a decent outing as did Doris. Conan had a game to forget.
McGrath shat the bed big time. Sexton fluffed his lines in the first half and came back into it a bit in the 2nd but he’s not the player he was.
All in all, a great season for ye’s with an unfortunate ending.
That shite 1st half left you too much to do in the end.
Think that’s gotta be the end of Dev unfortunately. Baird made a massive difference in the 2nd half.
Scrum is very worrying from an Ireland pov. Absolutely obliterated.
Thought Connors had a decent outing as did Doris. Conan had a game to forget.
McGrath shat the bed big time. Sexton fluffed his lines in the first half and came back into it a bit in the 2nd but he’s not the player he was.
All in all, a great season for ye’s with an unfortunate ending.
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Sexton was in his prime those years though, will be much harder when he's not able to drive it.
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Euhm, he's not?MunsterMan!!!!! wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:26 pm How is leo escaping criticism ? The whole team was so flat in the first half, he didn't have them dialed in at all.
When we complain about selections, that is criticism towards Leo.
He's a great head coach and has delivered great results and brought a lot of young players through.
But today he went conservative on a few choices, and him and Stuart didn't have the team ready and fired up for the kick off.
The second half showed that the match was there for the taking, but we let Saracens (who played well but were not unplayable) off the hook.
We've got faith that lessons will be learned (fingers crossed). We're now debating what we want to see to get the scrum improved and the attack flowing once more.
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Sexton was rattled in the first half.
How is McGrath getting paid to play rugby.
A 9 who can’t pass, can’t kick and lets the opposition line up man and ball tackles before firing hospital passes over their heads
How is McGrath getting paid to play rugby.
A 9 who can’t pass, can’t kick and lets the opposition line up man and ball tackles before firing hospital passes over their heads
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McGrath is too stiff and rigid. Even Leinster’s midfield is lacking creatively.
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Yeah McGrath really let himself down today. Missed Furlong more than we might have thought we would. But had been saying it all the time, Sarries were only underdogs to people who haven't been watching rugby. Everything was in their favour. No crowd, no big game the week before. Thought they might miss Farrell more to get them that field position but Leinster mistakes in the first half just handed that to them on a plate.
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Leinster played some dumb rugby.
Trying to maul it when the ref is allowing the opposition offside around the back is stupid to keep repeating.
We were making yards by upping the tempo. There was no need to keep it tight.
Trying to maul it when the ref is allowing the opposition offside around the back is stupid to keep repeating.
We were making yards by upping the tempo. There was no need to keep it tight.
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The ref didn't give us the steam off his piss either. They were offside the whole game, crooked throws, they only needed a fingernail on the ball to win a turnover whereas Porter was a full 3 seconds on the ball and they were still able to blow him away inside the last 10mins. Couple of high shots missed. They probably should have seen yellow in the build up to the Porter try. If he hadn't scored they might have done but it's one of the quirks of these things that a score can often cancel that out.
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Indeed.
What the Fûck was Joy Neville up to for the whole game?
What the Fûck was Joy Neville up to for the whole game?