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YOYO wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:39 pm

irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:35 pm

YOYO wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:24 pm

Porterbelly1 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:41 pm

Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:47 pm Was impressed with the little bit I saw of Colm Reilly against Zebre the other night the Connacht scrumhalf, Looks to have pace, a little bit of size and decent enough pass, only 21 liked what I saw.

Did very well, decent chance for him to put a run of games together with Blade injured and Marmion holding tackle bags.

Ireland u20 squad man from 2019 or ‘20 is he? I was very very impressed by him. Is he a Galway man? A real speed merchant for scrum half but seemingly with all the skills, awareness and a good tackler.

'19 was sometime backup to Casey

I know it’s early to say but I feel he could go very well. Excited about it.

Connacht seem to do a better job of turning scrum half prospects into decent players than just about anybody these last few years.

Marmion, Cooney, Blade, now Reilly making a good impression

(Apols if I've missed any other future Lions Captains)

Yeah Connacht do an excellent job at developing scrumhalves.

Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:47 pm Was impressed with the little bit I saw of Colm Reilly against Zebre the other night the Connacht scrumhalf, Looks to have pace, a little bit of size and decent enough pass, only 21 liked what I saw.

And he looks like General Custer.

Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:50 pm

DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:40 pm Sexton was apparently on the brink of gametime against Scarlets so it will be interesting to see if he gets a chance against edinburgh.

Cooney
Madigan
Lyttle
Moore
Hume
Faddes
Lowry

Still leaves gilroy, sexton in the outside backs. Bit shy at centre cover but we could move Madigan or faddes at a push.

Sexton has been injury free all season, why has he not being getting near the Senior squad till now what is holding him back?

Because Ulster actually have a rake of decent wings and hes a young lad learning his way?

Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:47 pm Was impressed with the little bit I saw of Colm Reilly against Zebre the other night the Connacht scrumhalf, Looks to have pace, a little bit of size and decent enough pass, only 21 liked what I saw.

Glad you're on board, about time you learnt to trust my eye.

DOB wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:46 pm I’m not a Farrell fan, I think it’s all going to end in tears and a loss away to Scotland or something, but I also think everyone is getting way too invested in this makey-uppy tournament that everyone is going to forget ever happened by the time the vaccine is widely distributed.

But that's kinda the point DOB ..... if the coaching team aren't going to look at new players during a makey uppey tournament, in a match against Georgia, then what does that say about them?

There's no vaccine for crippling conservatism unfortunately

Yer Man wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:40 pm
Came off the bench twice in the U20 6N when Cormac Foley was starting (when Craig Casey was injured).

One start in the JWC when Casey was rested against Italy - and Foley was playing 12 (Hawkshaw, French & Moore were all injured by that stage). Also off the bench against Australia (Foley covering centre that day).

Yeah Foley was ahead of him underage, Reilly obviously much further ahead now..

not sure who oversees scrumhalf development in leinster but it's certainly leaves a lot to be desired..

the lack of game time for any 9's outside of McGrath in the pro 14 doesn't bode well.

Listening to the 42 pod here and Jackman is still taking about Porter as a viable LHP, and mentioning Furlong as our TH. I don't get the obsession with pundits writing him off as a decent TH. He's the incumbent and he's been doing very well, while Furlong is long term broken so out of the conversation for the moment.

The LH conversation is a separate one.

Nolanator wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:53 am Listening to the 42 pod here and Jackman is still taking about Porter as a viable LHP, and mentioning Furlong as our TH. I don't get the obsession with pundits writing him off as a decent TH. He's the incumbent and he's been doing very well, while Furlong is long term broken so out of the conversation for the moment.

The LH conversation is a separate one.

Farrell mentioned it yesterday as something that they were still discussing.

"We'll see what the future brings and how other people come through at tighthead. Tom O'Toole has been out injured, so we will see."

irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:56 am

Nolanator wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:53 am Listening to the 42 pod here and Jackman is still taking about Porter as a viable LHP, and mentioning Furlong as our TH. I don't get the obsession with pundits writing him off as a decent TH. He's the incumbent and he's been doing very well, while Furlong is long term broken so out of the conversation for the moment.

The LH conversation is a separate one.

Farrell mentioned it yesterday as something that they were still discussing.

"We'll see what the future brings and how other people come through at tighthead. Tom O'Toole has been out injured, so we will see."

Could be linked to the lack of talented LHs coming through.

anonymous_joe wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:04 am

irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:56 am

Nolanator wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:53 am Listening to the 42 pod here and Jackman is still taking about Porter as a viable LHP, and mentioning Furlong as our TH. I don't get the obsession with pundits writing him off as a decent TH. He's the incumbent and he's been doing very well, while Furlong is long term broken so out of the conversation for the moment.

The LH conversation is a separate one.

Farrell mentioned it yesterday as something that they were still discussing.

"We'll see what the future brings and how other people come through at tighthead. Tom O'Toole has been out injured, so we will see."

Could be linked to the lack of talented LHs coming through.

not exactly overflowing with young homegrown TH's either..

O'Toole was brought over from Aus.
Knox from SA.
And Salanoa from Hawaii.

He only included 2 LHs in the biggest squad Ireland have ever named.

When one got injured he called up another and then is choosing to play a TH at LH ahead of him.

I think it's fair to say he doesn't really rate the LHs available.

YOYO wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:36 am

irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:18 am

anonymous_joe wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:04 am

irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:56 am

Nolanator wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:53 am Listening to the 42 pod here and Jackman is still taking about Porter as a viable LHP, and mentioning Furlong as our TH. I don't get the obsession with pundits writing him off as a decent TH. He's the incumbent and he's been doing very well, while Furlong is long term broken so out of the conversation for the moment.

The LH conversation is a separate one.

Farrell mentioned it yesterday as something that they were still discussing.

"We'll see what the future brings and how other people come through at tighthead. Tom O'Toole has been out injured, so we will see."

Could be linked to the lack of talented LHs coming through.

not exactly overflowing with young homegrown TH's either..

O'Toole was brought over from Aus.
Knox from SA.
And Salanoa from Hawaii.

O’Tool is at least Irish. Born in Drogheda. Lived with his family in Australia for 10 years. Dad moved their for work reasons.

He was selected for the Queensland Reds development side and Queensland Schoolboys in 2015, before being connected with the Irish Exiles setup.[1] He was enrolled at Campbell College, and went on to play for Ireland and under-18, under-19 and under-20 level.[2]

I know, they did well making sure he was brought back into the system.. point still stands that highly rated homegrown TH props are light on the ground..

presume EOS released back to Ulster?

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:18 am He only included 2 LHs in the biggest squad Ireland have ever named.

When one got injured he called up another and then is choosing to play a TH at LH ahead of him.

I think it's fair to say he doesn't really rate the LHs available.

I doubt very much that a former league player has too strong an opinion on the propping situation

YOYO wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:42 am No I get your point.
Seems very harsh not including EOS in the squad. Hope it doesn’t dint his confidence.

How do you rate EOS’s scrummaging?

He's a fine scrummager, not particularly destructive but rarely if ever gets into genuine bother.

His main strengths are his mobility, work rate and ball handling.
Cracking player.

irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:43 am presume EOS released back to Ulster?

Would presume theyll hang onto him for the whole weekend in case of injury

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:43 am

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:18 am He only included 2 LHs in the biggest squad Ireland have ever named.

When one got injured he called up another and then is choosing to play a TH at LH ahead of him.

I think it's fair to say he doesn't really rate the LHs available.

I doubt very much that a former league player has too strong an opinion on the propping situation

I meant the set up as a whole.

Although duff was teasing something about McGrath not being selected because he doesn't want to be or something but won't openly say it

"But he has fitted in unbelievably well. We always talk about the different pressures of an international training camp, especially for a youngster, he has fitted in very well."

is a soon to be 24 year old really a youngster?

rialtoblue wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:01 pm

irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:43 am presume EOS released back to Ulster?

Would presume theyll hang onto him for the whole weekend in case of injury

Ulster play on Monday (if we play given the Scarlets could have infected us), so he could still be named for us.

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:06 pm

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:43 am

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:18 am He only included 2 LHs in the biggest squad Ireland have ever named.

When one got injured he called up another and then is choosing to play a TH at LH ahead of him.

I think it's fair to say he doesn't really rate the LHs available.

I doubt very much that a former league player has too strong an opinion on the propping situation

I meant the set up as a whole.

Although duff was teasing something about McGrath not being selected because he doesn't want to be or something but won't openly say it

What's this now?

McGrath's not fit enough.

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:12 pm

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:06 pm

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:43 am

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:18 am He only included 2 LHs in the biggest squad Ireland have ever named.

When one got injured he called up another and then is choosing to play a TH at LH ahead of him.

I think it's fair to say he doesn't really rate the LHs available.

I doubt very much that a former league player has too strong an opinion on the propping situation

I meant the set up as a whole.

Although duff was teasing something about McGrath not being selected because he doesn't want to be or something but won't openly say it

What's this now?

I've no idea, Duff intimated something and then said he'd rather not tell anyone, the big tease.

Farrell is talking about shifting Porter and Bealham to LH. He clearly doesn't rate the available options at LH.

CONNACHT MATCHDAY 23 VS OSPREYS RUGBY
Saturday 28th November, The Sportsground, Kick-Off 7.35pm

Number/Name/Caps (* denotes uncapped)
15. John Porch (23)
14. Peter Sullivan (4)
13. Sammy Arnold (6)
12. Tom Daly (30)
11. Alex Wootton (6)
10. Conor Fitzgerald (27)
9. Colm Reilly (3)
1. Denis Buckley (184)
2. Shane Delahunt (82)
3. Jack Aungier (6)
4. Eoghan Masterson (96)
5. Gavin Thornbury (44)
6. Sean O’Brien (58)
7. Conor Oliver (6)
8. Paul Boyle (C) (44)

Replacements
16. Jonny Murphy (9)
17. Paddy McAllister (14)
18. Dominic Robertson-McCoy (56)
19. Cian Prendergast (1)
20. Jarrad Butler (61)
21. Stephen Kerins (11)
22. Sean O’Brien (Acad) *
23. Colm de Buitlear (5)

Just checking, but that's 2.0 at #6 and 3.0 at #22?

Yer Man wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:11 pm Just checking, but that's 2.0 at #6 and 3.0 at #22?

Yep.

1.0 starts for 2nd week in a row for LI, this time at 6.

irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:20 pm

Yer Man wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:11 pm Just checking, but that's 2.0 at #6 and 3.0 at #22?

Yep.

1.0 starts for 2nd week in a row for LI, this time at 6.

4.0 is going to be better than 2.0 and 3.0 IMO

"we all dream of a team of SOB's, a team of SOB's, a team of SOB's ....."

I see that 2.0 has a mad bastard ginger beard these days.

YOYO wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:54 pm I do think 4.0 will be better than 2.0. None of them better than 1.0. 4.0 is a bit on the small side imo, a good athlete and engine.

small? He's 6'4. Needs to fill outa bit but don't see size being an issue... what position he focuses on and gets consistent game time at may be an issue, though his versatility will certainly help.

It'd be great to have a mad bastard like SOB again, anyone pick up his book?

Nolanator wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:53 am Listening to the 42 pod here and Jackman is still taking about Porter as a viable LHP, and mentioning Furlong as our TH. I don't get the obsession with pundits writing him off as a decent TH. He's the incumbent and he's been doing very well, while Furlong is long term broken so out of the conversation for the moment.

The LH conversation is a separate one.

I reckon Porter has a good chance of going on Lions, can cover both sides improving all the time, Would only rate the English props ahead of him in the 6ns, obviously alot depends on Tadhg but even if fit reckon still in with a good shout.

I think Porter in general is showing up well, but yeah the Lions is going to effectively be an England revenge mission with a few token Scots thrown in.

Furlong being out with vague, long term injuries gives me a late career Heaslip vibe tbh.

Connacht v Ospreys postponed due to Ospreys COVID case. 3rd Connacht game postponed in the last 4.

See Treadwell got a three week ban for his tackle last week

Winnie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:15 pm See Treadwell got a three week ban for his tackle last week

Deserved, no issues with that, TMO fúcked up and the Scarlets should be pissed off.

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:27 pm

Winnie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:15 pm See Treadwell got a three week ban for his tackle last week

Deserved, no issues with that, TMO fúcked up and the Scarlets should be pissed off.

Agreed on both counts. Like Hendy if he is going to act the enforcer he needs to be a lot cuter.

Everyone watching how often All blacks are doing Garryowens even in the attacking 22

EverReady wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:38 am Did you hear Nige on his 100 matches reffing. 'I may not be the last to do it but I will be the first'. So humble

Give the man credit. Reckon about the best ref in the world, or damn near to it for a decade. He has been on a noticeable decline over the past two-three years or so.

But a hell of a ref for the most part.

redderneck wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:37 pm

EverReady wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:38 am Did you hear Nige on his 100 matches reffing. 'I may not be the last to do it but I will be the first'. So humble

Give the man credit. Reckon about the best ref in the world, or damn near to it for a decade. He has been on a noticeable decline over the past two-three years or so.

But a hell of a ref for the most part.

Also a great character for the sport - these things are important - he will be missed