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Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:28 pm**

Read isn't.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:43 pm**

CM11 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:28 pm Read isn't.

Wiki says 6’4, but I never remember him looking shorter than any of his teammates. He always looked like the archetype gangly 8 to me.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:46 pm**

DOB wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:43 pm
CM11 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:28 pm Read isn't.
Wiki says 6’4, but I never remember him looking shorter than any of his teammates. He always looked like the archetype gangly 8 to me.

The original comment was that 6'4" was small for an 8. So the 'Read isn't' was referring to him not being over that height.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:02 pm**

Before lifting international 8s were expected to be 6ft 4 or taller.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:02 pm**

Stander off to Bordeaux?

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:02 pm**

Flametop wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:02 pm Stander off to Bordeaux?

Where is that from? I imagine agent talk to boost contract renewal. Last time it was about going to Montpellier

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:04 pm**

Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:02 pm
Flametop wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:02 pm Stander off to Bordeaux?
Where is that from?

https://www.the42.ie/the42-rugby-weekly ... 5-Jan2021/

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:23 pm**

Losing CJ would be a big blow for Ireland. He’s been one of our more consistent performers over the years and probably the only person that wasn’t below par in Japan.

I wonder if the IRFU would do a Sexton and pick him anyway if he left? Probably not with Doris’ emergence and Coombes/Ruddock playing well, plus the raft of Leinster backrowers in the background as well as McCann hopefully.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:28 pm**

Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:23 pm Losing CJ would be a big blow for Ireland. He’s been one of our more consistent performers over the years and probably the only person that wasn’t below par in Japan.

I wonder if the IRFU would do a Sexton and pick him anyway if he left? Probably not with Doris’ emergence and Coombes/Ruddock playing well, plus the raft of Leinster backrowers in the background as well as McCann hopefully.

I think you’ve answered your own question.
Possibly the usual contract negotiation tactics.
Maybe trying to pressurise the IRFU into hurrying up his decision. I noticed he and Gráinne Seoige’s husband have just started a business selling Braais (BBQ’s) in Ireland.. not sure how a move would effect that.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:42 pm**

Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:23 pm Losing CJ would be a big blow for Ireland. He’s been one of our more consistent performers over the years and probably the only person that wasn’t below par in Japan.

I wonder if the IRFU would do a Sexton and pick him anyway if he left? Probably not with Doris’ emergence and Coombes/Ruddock playing well, plus the raft of Leinster backrowers in the background as well as McCann hopefully.

Nah. He’s a busted a flush. Reckon this will be the last season when he is 1st choice for Ireland

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:44 pm**

Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:09 pm
themaddog wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:39 pm
Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:34 pm
irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:27 pm So Munster branch TMO missed Kleyns citable offence and Daly's elbow to Keenans face.
Strange how Jumper wasn't calling for a life ban for Kleyn
All the Ulster lads saying that Keenan dived
Fixed
I genuinely had a Wenger moment and went for a piss and another beer so didn’t see the incident.
Henshaw should’ve copped a ban for his hysterical bitching but obviously the IRFU would want to gloss over that one.

Yep it's a bit ironic to blame Munster fans for being knackers

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:47 pm**

Willie Falloon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:42 pm
Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:23 pm Losing CJ would be a big blow for Ireland. He’s been one of our more consistent performers over the years and probably the only person that wasn’t below par in Japan.

I wonder if the IRFU would do a Sexton and pick him anyway if he left? Probably not with Doris’ emergence and Coombes/Ruddock playing well, plus the raft of Leinster backrowers in the background as well as McCann hopefully.
Nah. He’s a busted a flush. Reckon this will be the last season when he is 1st choice for Ireland

He does look less effective alright. Who would replace him though?

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:48 pm**

feckwanker wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:47 pm
Willie Falloon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:42 pm
Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:23 pm Losing CJ would be a big blow for Ireland. He’s been one of our more consistent performers over the years and probably the only person that wasn’t below par in Japan.

I wonder if the IRFU would do a Sexton and pick him anyway if he left? Probably not with Doris’ emergence and Coombes/Ruddock playing well, plus the raft of Leinster backrowers in the background as well as McCann hopefully.
Nah. He’s a busted a flush. Reckon this will be the last season when he is 1st choice for Ireland
He does look less effective alright. Who would replace him though?

Beirne or Deegan?

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:51 pm**

Flametop wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:48 pm
feckwanker wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:47 pm
Willie Falloon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:42 pm
Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:23 pm Losing CJ would be a big blow for Ireland. He’s been one of our more consistent performers over the years and probably the only person that wasn’t below par in Japan.

I wonder if the IRFU would do a Sexton and pick him anyway if he left? Probably not with Doris’ emergence and Coombes/Ruddock playing well, plus the raft of Leinster backrowers in the background as well as McCann hopefully.
Nah. He’s a busted a flush. Reckon this will be the last season when he is 1st choice for Ireland
He does look less effective alright. Who would replace him though?
Beirne or Deegan?

Beirne isn't an 8. I'd say we let Deegan and Coombes fight to the death for the privilege.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:02 pm**

Gilroy signed on for another year.

Great servant over the years and all but I’d say he’s surplus to requirements these days with Stockdale, Baloucoune, McIlroy, Lyttle, Moxham and probably a few other lads from the academy production line.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:05 pm**

Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:02 pm Gilroy signed on for another year.

Great servant over the years and all but I’d say he’s surplus to requirements these days with Stockdale, Baloucoune, McIlroy, Lyttle, Moxham and probably a few other lads from the academy production line.

yeah you'd say he is quite lucky.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:10 pm**

feckwanker wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:51 pm
Flametop wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:48 pm
feckwanker wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:47 pm
Willie Falloon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:42 pm
Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:23 pm Losing CJ would be a big blow for Ireland. He’s been one of our more consistent performers over the years and probably the only person that wasn’t below par in Japan.

I wonder if the IRFU would do a Sexton and pick him anyway if he left? Probably not with Doris’ emergence and Coombes/Ruddock playing well, plus the raft of Leinster backrowers in the background as well as McCann hopefully.
Nah. He’s a busted a flush. Reckon this will be the last season when he is 1st choice for Ireland
He does look less effective alright. Who would replace him though?
Beirne or Deegan?
Beirne isn't an 8. I'd say we let Deegan and Coombes fight to the death for the privilege.

I meant at 6. I’d say Doris will have the 8 shirt for the immediate future at the least.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:11 pm**

Marcus Rea only a 1 Yr extension

Albeit his first pro contract

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:24 pm**

irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:05 pm
Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:02 pm Gilroy signed on for another year.

Great servant over the years and all but I’d say he’s surplus to requirements these days with Stockdale, Baloucoune, McIlroy, Lyttle, Moxham and probably a few other lads from the academy production line.
yeah you'd say he is quite lucky.

30 this year. That try against Munster feels like only yesterday.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:26 pm**

DOB wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:43 pm
CM11 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:28 pm Read isn't.
Wiki says 6’4, but I never remember him looking shorter than any of his teammates. He always looked like the archetype gangly 8 to me.

So he looked taller than Whitelock and Retallick did he, or was he just standing beside Aaron Smith and Dan Carter when you saw him on tv ? The official AB’s site says 1.93 too btw.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:29 pm**

Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:02 pm Gilroy signed on for another year.

Great servant over the years and all but I’d say he’s surplus to requirements these days with Stockdale, Baloucoune, McIlroy, Lyttle, Moxham and probably a few other lads from the academy production line.

When you list all of them and we have given Gilroy another year then I assume Faddes is gone

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:05 pm**

Winnie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:29 pm
Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:02 pm Gilroy signed on for another year.

Great servant over the years and all but I’d say he’s surplus to requirements these days with Stockdale, Baloucoune, McIlroy, Lyttle, Moxham and probably a few other lads from the academy production line.
When you list all of them and we have given Gilroy another year then I assume Faddes is gone

It would make a lot of sense from a financial perspective. Gilroy could be the old head of that group, and on a much cheaper rate than Faddes probably.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:17 pm**

EverReady wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:04 pm
Willie Falloon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:42 pm
Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:23 pm Losing CJ would be a big blow for Ireland. He’s been one of our more consistent performers over the years and probably the only person that wasn’t below par in Japan.

I wonder if the IRFU would do a Sexton and pick him anyway if he left? Probably not with Doris’ emergence and Coombes/Ruddock playing well, plus the raft of Leinster backrowers in the background as well as McCann hopefully.
Nah. He’s a busted a flush. Reckon this will be the last season when he is 1st choice for Ireland
Willie MVP wants you to know that he is banned at the moment but he agrees with every last word you said.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:26 pm**

Ulsters Red Hand wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:33 pm So pack for next season:

McGrath, Herring, Moore, Hendy, Nakarawa, Rea, Murphy, Timoney?

Still a bit lightweight in the back row unless you put Nakarawa at 6. Or else we've got someone else lined up, but I doubt that's the case

It will be good to see a travelling journeyman who plays entertaining rugby in the province of nomads

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:37 pm**

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:57 am I think he should stick to guns

They moved him from loosie because we had Healy and McGrath and now one is old and the other gone to the place where careers go to die.

problem is, if Tadgh comes back to full form, if.......
Then you're keeping a classy young starting Irish prop for Leinster or Ireland on the bench, when your choice at one is getting limited.
Bit like the old Healy, McGrath choices.
Its a tough call

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:42 pm**

Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:23 pm Losing CJ would be a big blow for Ireland. He’s been one of our more consistent performers over the years and probably the only person that wasn’t below par in Japan.

I wonder if the IRFU would do a Sexton and pick him anyway if he left? Probably not with Doris’ emergence and Coombes/Ruddock playing well, plus the raft of Leinster backrowers in the background as well as McCann hopefully.

Contract talk.
Kids in school, house in Limerick, international player, probable Lions choice????

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:49 pm**

I don't think CJ is probable for Lions, well maybe as a squad player.

He's been less effective as he's aged tbh, great servant who gives it his all, but doesn't have much to his game once he's marked out of things.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:50 pm**

Andy.
Here's my call for the Welsh match.
Start Ryan and Beirne at 5 and 4.
POM at 7.
55 minutes POM Off, shift Beirne to 7 and bring on Hendo.
With a free back row swop
Energy plus plus

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:52 pm**

Was stander playing against Leinster?

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:57 pm**

irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:52 pm Was stander playing against Leinster?

Of course. But he spent most of his time trying to schill his Braai's to Healy and the other BBQ heads involved

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:02 pm**

irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:52 pm Was stander playing against Leinster?

No bites?

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:13 pm**

Floppykid wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:49 pm I don't think CJ is probable for Lions, well maybe as a squad player.

He's been less effective as he's aged tbh, great servant who gives it his all, but doesn't have much to his game once he's marked out of things.

We haven’t seen him as the rampaging ball carrier since before the last Lions tour. Probably more effective now in most other areas of the game though. Valuable player to the team imo, always fronts up, high tackle count, good for a few turnovers etc.

Posted: **Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:41 am**

Trostan wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:50 pm Andy.
Here's my call for the Welsh match.
Start Ryan and Beirne at 5 and 4.
POM at 7.
55 minutes POM Off, shift Beirne to 7 and bring on Hendo.
With a free back row swop
Energy plus plus

An hour in the engine room, and then shift him to openside?

I fcuking hate when backs try to pick the pack.

Posted: **Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:41 am**

Trostan wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:50 pm Andy.
Here's my call for the Welsh match.
Start Ryan and Beirne at 5 and 4.
POM at 7.
55 minutes POM Off, shift Beirne to 7 and bring on Hendo.
With a free back row swop
Energy plus plus

Was about to say Beirne would need to be on the same drugs as you are, to pull that off, but DOB got there first...

Posted: **Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:32 am**

JJ being linked with Lyon this morning.

Posted: **Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:35 am**

Trostan wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:37 pm
Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:57 am I think he should stick to guns

They moved him from loosie because we had Healy and McGrath and now one is old and the other gone to the place where careers go to die.
problem is, if Tadgh comes back to full form, if.......
Then you're keeping a classy young starting Irish prop for Leinster or Ireland on the bench, when your choice at one is getting limited.
Bit like the old Healy, McGrath choices.
Its a tough call

I have seen too many careers wither on the vine of positional shift

Posted: **Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:40 am**

Props can share gametime like no other position. Keep them both at TH, keep them both playing lots.
Worked for years with Healy/VDM and Healy/McGrath.

Posted: **Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:41 am**

irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:32 am JJ being linked with Lyon this morning.

Is it just silly season for all rumours or is there substance?
JJ leaving would make sense. Munster would be wise to back Healy as their no.1 and they have that other young lad coming through, plus I’m sure there are others that can step into the breach in an emergency.

Posted: **Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:58 am**

irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:32 am JJ being linked with Lyon this morning.

He loves taking foreign/mercenary cash and french love a flakey 10. Match made in heaven

Posted: **Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:00 am**

He'd be mad not to go.

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