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In fairness, he could work well in France outside a "petit general" type SH.HighKingLeinster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:58 amHe loves taking foreign/mercenary cash and french love a flakey 10. Match made in heaven
Crazy to think 4/5 are from Munster originally.irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:18 am Top young outhalves in Ireland(23 and under):
1. Harry Byrne(21/Leinster)
2. Ben Healy(21/Munster)
3. Jack Crowley(20/Munster)
4. Bill Johnston(23/Ulster)
5. Conor Fitzgerald(23/Connacht)
I thought crowley was pretty well built? He is down as 6pt and around 88kg which isn't bad for an outhalf.Lazy Couch potato wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:48 amCrazy to think 4/5 are from Munster originally.irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:18 am Top young outhalves in Ireland(23 and under):
1. Harry Byrne(21/Leinster)
2. Ben Healy(21/Munster)
3. Jack Crowley(20/Munster)
4. Bill Johnston(23/Ulster)
5. Conor Fitzgerald(23/Connacht)
Shows how important it is to get younger players out of the nest and into jerseys if they aren’t making it. Both Fitzgerald and Johnson would both still be getting splinters at Munster. It’s often overlooked but the “drain” of coming players from Leinster squad to other provinces helps them a lot. Shit it get off the pot. Players need second chances no doubt but the trapdoor helps focus a lot.
Crowley looks super for me but very light.
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Is Tector decent? Whats his background? Not been impressed with Hawksaw at 10 but looks a decent footballer with pace so think might end up at 12.irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:56 am Frawley would be on high on the list if he was still playing 10 regularly.
Top underage 10's:
1. Charlie Tector(Leinster) - u19
2. Cian Whooley(Munster) - u20
3. Tim Corkery(Leinster) - u20
4. Cathal Forde(Connacht) - u20
5. James Humphreys(Ulster) - u20
Yes. Kilkenny College but from Wexford, who he played underage county hurling for. He was playing for Lansdowne earlier in the season, while only 18.Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:12 pmIs Tector decent? Whats his background? Not been impressed with Hawksaw at 10 but looks a decent footballer with pace so think might end up at 12.irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:56 am Frawley would be on high on the list if he was still playing 10 regularly.
Top underage 10's:
1. Charlie Tector(Leinster) - u19
2. Cian Whooley(Munster) - u20
3. Tim Corkery(Leinster) - u20
4. Cathal Forde(Connacht) - u20
5. James Humphreys(Ulster) - u20
What about Bent? Arrived to play TH but was definitely a better LH for the first half of his time with us. Back on the TH side now and playing great rugby.Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:35 amI have seen too many careers wither on the vine of positional shift
Would agree with LC on this one, he really hasn't shown much as a 10. Very skillful player though and looks sharp defensively. He could end up a Ryan Crotty-type centre. It's a pity for him that Frawley is now seen as a 12. Speaking of Frawley hopefully he gets some mins at 10 over the coming weeks. He's still a very good outhalf and you would hate for him not to have it in his locker. It can be a bit of a use-it-or-lose-it with such a key position.irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:16 pmYes. Kilkenny College but from Wexford, who he played underage county hurling for. He was playing for Lansdowne earlier in the season, while only 18.Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:12 pmIs Tector decent? Whats his background? Not been impressed with Hawksaw at 10 but looks a decent footballer with pace so think might end up at 12.irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:56 am Frawley would be on high on the list if he was still playing 10 regularly.
Top underage 10's:
1. Charlie Tector(Leinster) - u19
2. Cian Whooley(Munster) - u20
3. Tim Corkery(Leinster) - u20
4. Cathal Forde(Connacht) - u20
5. James Humphreys(Ulster) - u20
Difficult to evaluate Hawkshaw at 10, was out of game for 18 months and prior to injury was focusing on 12. He is pretty small for a pro 12 so wait and see.
Spoiler that name on this thread FFS.hermie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:41 pmWould agree with LC on this one, he really hasn't shown much as a 10. Very skillful player though and looks sharp defensively. He could end up a Ryan Crotty-type centre. It's a pity for him that Frawley is now seen as a 12. Speaking of Frawley hopefully he gets some mins at 10 over the coming weeks. He's still a very good outhalf and you would hate for him not to have it in his locker. It can be a bit of a use-it-or-lose-it with such a key position.irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:16 pmYes. Kilkenny College but from Wexford, who he played underage county hurling for. He was playing for Lansdowne earlier in the season, while only 18.Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:12 pmIs Tector decent? Whats his background? Not been impressed with Hawksaw at 10 but looks a decent footballer with pace so think might end up at 12.irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:56 am Frawley would be on high on the list if he was still playing 10 regularly.
Top underage 10's:
1. Charlie Tector(Leinster) - u19
2. Cian Whooley(Munster) - u20
3. Tim Corkery(Leinster) - u20
4. Cathal Forde(Connacht) - u20
5. James Humphreys(Ulster) - u20
Difficult to evaluate Hawkshaw at 10, was out of game for 18 months and prior to injury was focusing on 12. He is pretty small for a pro 12 so wait and see.
I haven't seen enough of Hawkshaw at 10 to write him off completely there, especially given his lack of game time there since leaving school.hermie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:41 pmWould agree with LC on this one, he really hasn't shown much as a 10. Very skillful player though and looks sharp defensively. He could end up a Ryan Crotty-type centre. It's a pity for him that Frawley is now seen as a 12. Speaking of Frawley hopefully he gets some mins at 10 over the coming weeks. He's still a very good outhalf and you would hate for him not to have it in his locker. It can be a bit of a use-it-or-lose-it with such a key position.irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:16 pmYes. Kilkenny College but from Wexford, who he played underage county hurling for. He was playing for Lansdowne earlier in the season, while only 18.Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:12 pmIs Tector decent? Whats his background? Not been impressed with Hawksaw at 10 but looks a decent footballer with pace so think might end up at 12.irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:56 am Frawley would be on high on the list if he was still playing 10 regularly.
Top underage 10's:
1. Charlie Tector(Leinster) - u19
2. Cian Whooley(Munster) - u20
3. Tim Corkery(Leinster) - u20
4. Cathal Forde(Connacht) - u20
5. James Humphreys(Ulster) - u20
Difficult to evaluate Hawkshaw at 10, was out of game for 18 months and prior to injury was focusing on 12. He is pretty small for a pro 12 so wait and see.
Jim Lahey wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:48 pmSpoiler that name on this thread FFS.hermie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:41 pmWould agree with LC on this one, he really hasn't shown much as a 10. Very skillful player though and looks sharp defensively. He could end up a Ryan Crotty-type centre. It's a pity for him that Frawley is now seen as a 12. Speaking of Frawley hopefully he gets some mins at 10 over the coming weeks. He's still a very good outhalf and you would hate for him not to have it in his locker. It can be a bit of a use-it-or-lose-it with such a key position.irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:16 pmYes. Kilkenny College but from Wexford, who he played underage county hurling for. He was playing for Lansdowne earlier in the season, while only 18.Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:12 pmIs Tector decent? Whats his background? Not been impressed with Hawksaw at 10 but looks a decent footballer with pace so think might end up at 12.irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:56 am Frawley would be on high on the list if he was still playing 10 regularly.
Top underage 10's:
1. Charlie Tector(Leinster) - u19
2. Cian Whooley(Munster) - u20
3. Tim Corkery(Leinster) - u20
4. Cathal Forde(Connacht) - u20
5. James Humphreys(Ulster) - u20
Difficult to evaluate Hawkshaw at 10, was out of game for 18 months and prior to injury was focusing on 12. He is pretty small for a pro 12 so wait and see.
Dooley, Baird, leavy and Conan
Only seen him a couple of times and looked decent going forward, there were alot of breaks through the centres in the Ulster and Munster games not sure if down to him or not.irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:03 pm On the bench, 19-year-old Jamie Osborne is in line to make his Leinster Rugby Senior debut should he be introduced.
The former Naas CBS pupil, who has come through the Leinster Rugby club system with Naas Rugby Club, played with the North Midlands side in the Shane Horgan Cup.
Osborne is normally based down in the Ken Wall Centre of Excellence in Energia Park but has been training with the Senior team in UCD over the last few months and is involved in a Senior matchday 23 for the first time tomorrow.
What transferrable skills does being a good Hurler bring to rugby. Good hand eye co-ordination, should have good catching skills but not sure what else?irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:16 pmYes. Kilkenny College but from Wexford, who he played underage county hurling for. He was playing for Lansdowne earlier in the season, while only 18.Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:12 pmIs Tector decent? Whats his background? Not been impressed with Hawksaw at 10 but looks a decent footballer with pace so think might end up at 12.irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:56 am Frawley would be on high on the list if he was still playing 10 regularly.
Top underage 10's:
1. Charlie Tector(Leinster) - u19
2. Cian Whooley(Munster) - u20
3. Tim Corkery(Leinster) - u20
4. Cathal Forde(Connacht) - u20
5. James Humphreys(Ulster) - u20
Difficult to evaluate Hawkshaw at 10, was out of game for 18 months and prior to injury was focusing on 12. He is pretty small for a pro 12 so wait and see.
God be with the days when you’d expect even your outhalf to drink at least 8-10 pts.Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:06 pmI thought crowley was pretty well built? He is down as 6pt and around 88kg which isn't bad for an outhalf.Lazy Couch potato wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:48 amCrazy to think 4/5 are from Munster originally.irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:18 am Top young outhalves in Ireland(23 and under):
1. Harry Byrne(21/Leinster)
2. Ben Healy(21/Munster)
3. Jack Crowley(20/Munster)
4. Bill Johnston(23/Ulster)
5. Conor Fitzgerald(23/Connacht)
Shows how important it is to get younger players out of the nest and into jerseys if they aren’t making it. Both Fitzgerald and Johnson would both still be getting splinters at Munster. It’s often overlooked but the “drain” of coming players from Leinster squad to other provinces helps them a lot. Shit it get off the pot. Players need second chances no doubt but the trapdoor helps focus a lot.
Crowley looks super for me but very light.
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What do you thing his best position is?irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:02 pm for those interested, jamie osborne is the 15 in these highlight clips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BBgByJ ... omasOBrien
15 right now anyway, who knows where he will be playing in a few years.cfm93 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:20 pmWhat do you thing his best position is?irishrugbyua wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:02 pm for those interested, jamie osborne is the 15 in these highlight clips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BBgByJ ... omasOBrien
True but there is no one else due to injuries, so between him and Comerford and Osborne covers more positions.Conspicuous wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:27 pm Might be a bit early for Osbourne I think. He could be a really special talent but needs to do a bit of growing up and spend some time in the gym before taking on seasoned pros . He was getting bounced around the place in defence against Ulster
He’s okay. Great line out operatorDiscoHips D'Arcy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:37 pm Carter gets another 2 years. Dont think we've seen the best of him. Not a lot out there maybe to upgrade
He seems to be a bit of a Peno machine.DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:37 pm Carter gets another 2 years. Dont think we've seen the best of him. Not a lot out there maybe to upgrade
In fairness he has hardly had a run of games. Got injured early then Covid hit. Lowry extended now for 2 years.Luckycharmer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:57 pmHe seems to be a bit of a Peno machine.DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:37 pm Carter gets another 2 years. Dont think we've seen the best of him. Not a lot out there maybe to upgrade
Why would Hendy leave I am sure he is on decent money and you can't say he is overlooked by Ireland.earl the beaver wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:34 pm So Nakarawa signed, Carter, AOC and Treadwell all extended.
I pray to God Nakarawa is going to play 8 and this doesn't mean Hendy is off.