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Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:11 pm
by Risteard
Floppykid wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:05 pm I wonder if there's any tweaks that could be made to stop the caterpillar rucks.
Was thinking about that the other day. The only way I could think would be if you would only be considered part of the ruck if you were in contact with the tackled player as a crude starting point. Obviously that rule on its own wouldn't work but agree the current situation of three player lining up behind each other and the last player being part of a ruck is farcical.

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:13 pm
by Floppykid
Risteard wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:11 pm
Floppykid wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:05 pm I wonder if there's any tweaks that could be made to stop the caterpillar rucks.
Was thinking about that the other day. The only way I could think would be if you would only be considered part of the ruck if you were in contact with the tackled player as a crude starting point. Obviously that rule on its own wouldn't work but agree the current situation of three player lining up behind each other and the last player being part of a ruck is farcical.
It just allows too much leeway to the box kick, stops it being competitive.
Almost turns things into a set piece.

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:16 pm
by Floppykid
Beale, not a bad replacement to bring in.

I wonder if Racing have the control to make this smart "take the points" work.

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:17 pm
by nardol
Zebo has been their best player... Taken off


Crazy French

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:17 pm
by Floppykid
Don't understand why Zebo is being taken off.

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:19 pm
by Floppykid
Racing's defence has been excellent.
This is a brilliant game.

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:22 pm
by nardol
Russell needs to stop the aimless kicking.

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:23 pm
by rfurlong
Floppykid wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:17 pm Don't understand why Zebo is being taken off.
He didn't do much apart from receiving two try scoring passes and doing the necessary

Racing need to win this so need something creative now

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:25 pm
by HighKingLeinster
Never a deliberate knock on

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:26 pm
by Bogbunny
HighKingLeinster wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:25 pm Never a deliberate knock on

Absolute bollix of a decision

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:26 pm
by HighKingLeinster
Floppykid wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:17 pm Don't understand why Zebo is being taken off.
props generally dont last the full game

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:26 pm
by earl the beaver
Dodgy clearout in the middle there the ref hasn't checked.

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:26 pm
by rfurlong
Bogbunny wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:26 pm
HighKingLeinster wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:25 pm Never a deliberate knock on

Absolute bollix of a decision
Harsh alright

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:27 pm
by HighKingLeinster
Bogbunny wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:26 pm
HighKingLeinster wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:25 pm Never a deliberate knock on

Absolute bollix of a decision
yup. Just a tit-handed front row making a clumsy effort/reaction to the ball crossing in front of him.

Though if it was a bacon sandwich he probably would have caught it

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:27 pm
by rfurlong
earl the beaver wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:26 pm Dodgy clearout in the middle there the ref hasn't checked.
Was thinking that ..... reckon the TMO decided to only look at the first penno

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:27 pm
by Bogbunny
rfurlong wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:26 pm
Bogbunny wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:26 pm
HighKingLeinster wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:25 pm Never a deliberate knock on

Absolute bollix of a decision
Harsh alright
Knock on, scrum at most

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:29 pm
by Risteard
Some turnover

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:29 pm
by rfurlong
Why didn't Russell take the drop ????

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:30 pm
by HighKingLeinster
Risteard wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:29 pm Some turnover
Ruck was formed (there was about 6 lads in it) so should have been a penno the other way

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:30 pm
by Floppykid
Bit of a bs penalty from Nige.

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:31 pm
by Floppykid
rfurlong wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:29 pm Why didn't Russell take the drop ????
Lots of opportunity that's for sure.

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:33 pm
by rfurlong
TMO - "Sack was immediate, sack was fine"

Nige - "sack was too late"

TMO - "Sack was immediate, sack was fine"

:lol:

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:34 pm
by Bogbunny
YOYO wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:33 pm Russell to blame for this loss. I’m a fan of Russell but I’m afraid he won’t be B&I’s OH.

Jahnny to be sure, AWJ as skipper x(

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:36 pm
by lemonhead
Congrats Exeter. Deserved.

Racing gave up waaay too many points to think about winning this.

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:37 pm
by BlackMac
Where was the penalty there. Racing had the turnover and Exeter 19 threw himself headfirst in to dislodge the ball from his hands. What am I missing that Nigel sees.

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:37 pm
by Floppykid
Well done Exeter. Great final.

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:38 pm
by iarmhiman
And we have new champions.

Congrats Chiefs and thank God it wasn't Sarries

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:39 pm
by BlackMac
What a clusterfuck at the end of a final.

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:39 pm
by Wendigo7
YOYO wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:33 pm Russell to blame for this loss. I’m a fan of Russell but I’m afraid he won’t be B&I’s OH.
They were only in it at all because of his utter brilliance what are you on? XD

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:39 pm
by shereblue
Great Game. Great finish. Congrats Exeter. Fitting Final.

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:41 pm
by HighKingLeinster
YOYO wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:34 pm Zebo been taken off not belong Racing either.
Did you type this with your face?

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:41 pm
by rfurlong
Bad way to finish a game .... nige made a few interesting decisions in the last 10

Racing probably deserved to lose it for being downright stupid too often

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:41 pm
by ChipSpike
Well done Nigel, cool head at the end there

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:41 pm
by Anonymous 1
YOYO wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:31 pm Come on Racing my EU brothers. 👊
:lol:

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:44 pm
by iarmhiman
The proper club won.

Yes they're English but they're a proper club.

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:44 pm
by BlackMac
YOYO wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:41 pm
Wendigo7 wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:39 pm
YOYO wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:33 pm Russell to blame for this loss. I’m a fan of Russell but I’m afraid he won’t be B&I’s OH.
They were only in it at all because of his utter brilliance what are you on? XD
I’m a fan and have always admired his way of playing but his flaws didn’t help today.

Racing couldn't operate if he didn't play the way he does. They are obviously happy to accept the risk reward and it does make good viewing. I probably won't be saying the same when he suits up for Scotland. :?

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:47 pm
by camroc1
Congrats Exeter - but Christ, Russel was shite.

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:59 pm
by terryfinch
Great game and so pleased for Exeter. They have built steadily and deserve their success. 👍

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:07 pm
by MrDominator
25 European Cups in history.

10 English wins.
8 French.
7 Irish*

Not bad for a bunch of spivs.

8)

* Ulster's victory doesn't really count.

Re: Achtung supporters of the spiv model

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:11 pm
by HighKingLeinster
MrDominator wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:07 pm 25 European Cups in history.

10 English wins.
8 French.
7 Irish*

Not bad for a bunch of spivs.

8)

* Ulster's victory doesn't really count.
Wales equal with Scotland and Italy :lol: