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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:49 am
by Duff Paddy
kiwigreg369 wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:37 am Netflix are showing probably the third best film from 1991 (the first is Goodfellas, then the last Boy Scout).

It’s Hudson Hawk.

For reference - Oscar winner was Dances with Wolves.
:lol: What

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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:01 am
by MrJonno
UncleFB wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:14 am
kiwigreg369 wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:37 am Netflix are showing probably the third best film from 1991 (the first is Goodfellas, then the last Boy Scout).

It’s Hudson Hawk.

For reference - Oscar winner was Dances with Wolves.
Goodfellas was 1990. You have an, ahem, interesting top 3. ;)
Carry On movies head finished and it was too early for Adam Sandler so it was a few lean years for top quality movies. I reckon he'd been watching Cocktail on loop for while when he hit upon that treasure trove.

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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:51 pm
by camroc1
The Banshees of Inisherin gets 8 Golden Globe nominations.

https://www.thejournal.ie/banshees-of-i ... 1-Jan2023/

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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:53 pm
by kiwigreg369
MrJonno wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:01 am
UncleFB wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:14 am
kiwigreg369 wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:37 am Netflix are showing probably the third best film from 1991 (the first is Goodfellas, then the last Boy Scout).

It’s Hudson Hawk.

For reference - Oscar winner was Dances with Wolves.
Goodfellas was 1990. You have an, ahem, interesting top 3. ;)
Carry On movies head finished and it was too early for Adam Sandler so it was a few lean years for top quality movies. I reckon he'd been watching Cocktail on loop for while when he hit upon that treasure trove.
Can’t beat Bruce Willis with hair…

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:39 am
by hermie
camroc1 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:51 pm The Banshees of Inisherin gets 8 Golden Globe nominations.

https://www.thejournal.ie/banshees-of-i ... 1-Jan2023/
Finally watched it the night before last. It's very good, well worth the accolades.

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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:58 pm
by Floppykid
hermie wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:39 am
camroc1 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:51 pm The Banshees of Inisherin gets 8 Golden Globe nominations.

https://www.thejournal.ie/banshees-of-i ... 1-Jan2023/
Finally watched it the night before last. It's very good, well worth the accolades.
Mad thinking that Collin Farrell was basically seen as a budget action hero-ish type actor in his early days. He's become one of the best in the world at the moment.

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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:19 am
by Pat the Ex Mat
Floppykid wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:58 pm

Mad thinking that Collin Farrell was basically seen as a budget action hero-ish type actor in his early days. He's become one of the best in the world at the moment.
At playing Irish characters?

He's like most modern actors, they play themselves once established.

Not denying he isn't good

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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:19 am
by boere wors
Floppykid wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:58 pm
hermie wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:39 am
camroc1 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:51 pm The Banshees of Inisherin gets 8 Golden Globe nominations.

https://www.thejournal.ie/banshees-of-i ... 1-Jan2023/
Finally watched it the night before last. It's very good, well worth the accolades.
Mad thinking that Collin Farrell was basically seen as a budget action hero-ish type actor in his early days. He's become one of the best in the world at the moment.
Absolutely. Couldnt stand him in his earlier career, but true detective and the Lanthimos films changed that. Has become an outstanding actor.

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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:24 am
by Floppykid
Pat the Ex Mat wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:19 am
Floppykid wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:58 pm

Mad thinking that Collin Farrell was basically seen as a budget action hero-ish type actor in his early days. He's become one of the best in the world at the moment.
At playing Irish characters?

He's like most modern actors, they play themselves once established.

Not denying he isn't good
Killing of the Sacred Deer, the Lobster, he was one of the better things about True Detective Season 2 (awful series) and yes, his Irish roles not to discount them as less nuanced.

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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:28 am
by Pat the Ex Mat
Floppykid wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:24 am
Pat the Ex Mat wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:19 am
Floppykid wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:58 pm

Mad thinking that Collin Farrell was basically seen as a budget action hero-ish type actor in his early days. He's become one of the best in the world at the moment.
At playing Irish characters?

He's like most modern actors, they play themselves once established.

Not denying he isn't good
Killing of the Sacred Deer, the Lobster, he was one of the better things about True Detective Season 2 (awful series) and yes, his Irish roles not to discount them as less nuanced.
:|

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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:31 am
by Floppykid
I think to consign his roles in In Bruges & Banshees as playing himself well is doing him a discredit. :|

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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:04 am
by Pat the Ex Mat
Floppykid wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:31 am I think to consign his roles in In Bruges & Banshees as playing himself well is doing him a discredit. :|
Image

:proud:

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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 3:50 am
by alliswell
Floppykid wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:24 am
Pat the Ex Mat wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:19 am
Floppykid wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:58 pm

Mad thinking that Collin Farrell was basically seen as a budget action hero-ish type actor in his early days. He's become one of the best in the world at the moment.
At playing Irish characters?

He's like most modern actors, they play themselves once established.

Not denying he isn't good
Killing of the Sacred Deer, the Lobster, he was one of the better things about True Detective Season 2 (awful series) and yes, his Irish roles not to discount them as less nuanced.
I haven't seen Batman 17 but it definitely doesn't look like he's playing himself in that. He's taken some big risks and they've payed off with some big paydays and some good work.

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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:59 pm
by JPNZ
Tried to watch Everything everywhere all at once last night, critics raved about it but I just couldn't enjoy it.

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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 9:12 pm
by Floppykid
JPNZ wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:59 pm Tried to watch Everything everywhere all at once last night, critics raved about it but I just couldn't enjoy it.
Saw it myself. Thought it was fine, a bit disjointed (excuse the pun). Don't get the raving same as you.

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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:01 pm
by El Homerino
hermie wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:39 am
camroc1 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:51 pm The Banshees of Inisherin gets 8 Golden Globe nominations.

https://www.thejournal.ie/banshees-of-i ... 1-Jan2023/
Finally watched it the night before last. It's very good, well worth the accolades.
Watched it last night and my opinion may not be popular. I thought the actors and location were fantastic. Not a bad performance from anyone in the movie. I thought the plot was stupid and found the whole thing depressing and a bit frustrating. In years gone by it would be a cult classic, but the dire state of film today has it rated as one of the movies of the year. Anyway I realise I'm probably on my own here.

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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:27 pm
by Floppykid
El Homerino wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:01 pm
hermie wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:39 am
camroc1 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:51 pm The Banshees of Inisherin gets 8 Golden Globe nominations.

https://www.thejournal.ie/banshees-of-i ... 1-Jan2023/
Finally watched it the night before last. It's very good, well worth the accolades.
Watched it last night and my opinion may not be popular. I thought the actors and location were fantastic. Not a bad performance from anyone in the movie. I thought the plot was stupid and found the whole thing depressing and a bit frustrating. In years gone by it would be a cult classic, but the dire state of film today has it rated as one of the movies of the year. Anyway I realise I'm probably on my own here.
It's a fairly stagey kind of plot, the characters don't quite act "realistically". I enjoyed it because of that tbh.

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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:56 pm
by Floppykid
Anyone seen Skinamarink?
It's getting fairly positive reviews, looks like an interesting concept, horror movie from the perspective of a child in a house.

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:06 pm
by camroc1
So Banshees of Inisherin gets 9 Oscar nominations, and An Cailín Ciúin a nomination for best international film.

A good year for Irish film.

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:59 pm
by Floppykid
camroc1 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:06 pm So Banshees of Inisherin gets 9 Oscar nominations, and An Cailín Ciúin a nomination for best international film.

A good year for Irish film.
Farrell got the nom for best actor, good for him.

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:06 pm
by Duff Paddy
camroc1 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:06 pm So Banshees of Inisherin gets 9 Oscar nominations, and An Cailín Ciúin a nomination for best international film.

A good year for Irish film.
The best ever year in fact

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:17 pm
by Duff Paddy
camroc1 wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:55 pm Saw the Banshees of Inisherin this afternoon.

Firstly, the film is very, very Irish, with all sorts of references, innuendo etc., that I'm pretty sure a non-Irisher wouldn't get. So non-Irishers apologies if I appear to be discussing a different film from the one you saw.

The film is both reverential and allegorical.

Reverential in the obvious nods to Synge, particularly The Playboy of the Western World, and that era of using literal translations of Gaelic language idiom, but also to stock Hollywood Irishisms, like The Quiet Man, and Ryans Daughter (again particularly the village daw, which I'll come back to). The film is beautifully shot, and the three main actors are all terrific. For Irishers, the likes of Pat Shortt and Jon Kenny nearly play caricatures of their well known comedy personas, and in fact a lot of the film is very dark comedy, with a froth of obvious laughs on top.

The allegory isn't particularly subtle at first glance, but gets more ambiguous as well. Firstly "Inisherin" literally translates as " The Island of Ireland", there's a civil war taking place over the water on the Irish mainland, and action and inaction are what the film is about. The Guard is the only state authority on the island and he abuses his son (the daw) both physically and sexually. So far so subtle.

Whilst early on it is stated that there are no banshees on Inisherin, there is very definitely a Cailleach, who's appearance gives the main characters decisions to make.

Taking the allegory further we have the two main male characters, who get on famously, until one decides that he doesn't want to any more; and is prepared to cut off his nose to spite his face to prove this. All of which doesn't really matter a hill of beans, as on an island they are destined to remain neighbours no matter what. Slightly more subtle here.

The main female role Siobháin Ní Shúillabháin (itself a nod to the well known Irish playwright and poet of the same name) is played,......, well is she Katherine Ní Houlihan forced to chose between two Irelands, and choosing a third, the future ?

As can be seen, if a mere Engineer can concoct such bullshit, the high brow critics will love it, and I'm pretty sure it will get some Oscar nominations. Given An Cailín Cúin is likely to be nominated in the foreign language category, and Cartoon Saloon are also in the picture for a nomination, it could be the first time three real "Irish" pictures are nominated for Oscars in the one year.

I am bumping this post as it’s the best explainer so far about this film. I think a lot of people unfamiliar with the classic Irish plays didn’t get a lot of it. There’s a lot more than Cammy gets to here as well. It’s a bit of a masterpiece.

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:33 am
by boere wors
Ok, obviously i didnt get all those analogies, but i thought it was a very good film nevertheless.

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:45 am
by Inch high hogs eye
I thought, for a film about losing fingers, it was very heavy handed. Nicely shot though…

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:26 pm
by Cabbage
Banshees is good by the horrific standards of today. It's easy to look decent when competing with Marvel nonsense. If it was released in the 90s it would have went straight to vhs.

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:39 pm
by camroc1
Duff Paddy wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:17 pm

I am bumping this post as it’s the best explainer so far about this film. I think a lot of people unfamiliar with the classic Irish plays didn’t get a lot of it. There’s a lot more than Cammy gets to here as well. It’s a bit of a masterpiece.
Indeed, Duff.

Is Jenny the Donkey a reference to O'Conaire's M'Asal Beag Dubh, and that storyline an allegory of how the Irish revivalist movement was firstly, heavily supported by the nascent state, but later on, particularly when the bombs started going off in the North, was left to wither ?

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:02 pm
by shabadoo
Have seen 3 of the films nominated:

Banshees
Asftersun
EEAAO

All completely different films but really enjoyed all 3 of them.

Would love to see Banshees win, an Oscar nominated dark comedy about the Irish civil war is something I never thought i'd see.

But Irish bias aside I hope Aftersun wins it. Amazing piece of Cinema.

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:46 pm
by Gauss
shabadoo wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:02 pm Have seen 3 of the films nominated:

Banshees
Asftersun
EEAAO

All completely different films but really enjoyed all 3 of them.

Would love to see Banshees win, an Oscar nominated dark comedy about the Irish civil war is something I never thought i'd see.

But Irish bias aside I hope Aftersun wins it. Amazing piece of Cinema.
Agree with you on Aftersun but we’ll be disappointed as it wasn’t nominated!

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:49 pm
by Floppykid
Cabbage wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:26 pm Banshees is good by the horrific standards of today. It's easy to look decent when competing with Marvel nonsense. If it was released in the 90s it would have went straight to vhs.
Ah here, that's just not true.

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:50 pm
by shabadoo
Gauss wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:46 pm
shabadoo wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:02 pm Have seen 3 of the films nominated:

Banshees
Asftersun
EEAAO

All completely different films but really enjoyed all 3 of them.

Would love to see Banshees win, an Oscar nominated dark comedy about the Irish civil war is something I never thought i'd see.

But Irish bias aside I hope Aftersun wins it. Amazing piece of Cinema.
Agree with you on Aftersun but we’ll be disappointed as it wasn’t nominated!
Haha...shite!

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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:50 pm
by shabadoo
Floppykid wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:49 pm
Cabbage wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:26 pm Banshees is good by the horrific standards of today. It's easy to look decent when competing with Marvel nonsense. If it was released in the 90s it would have went straight to vhs.
Ah here, that's just not true.
Yeah - couldn't disagree more.

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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:07 pm
by highlands
Ive watched a few movies lately. Here is my expert opinion.

You People - had to turn it off after 20mins as it was making me so angry. Black this, white that. The entertainment industry are really trying to out do themselves with the woke culture wars nonsense. When is it all going to end!?
The Fablemans - Absolute horseshit. 92% on RT i see. Every single character was irritating as hell. Especially Michelle Williams character, who i usually like in movies.
Babylon - Alot going on but not much happened. Margot Robbie is the sexiest woman alive thats for sure.
Banshees - I enjoyed it. But i wouldnt say its as deserved off all the plaudits either. But it was something a bit different and the acting was great by all.
Everything everywhere - Dont know about this one. Ill have to go back and watch it again. I was enjoying it for the first 50 mins , then just went a bit too weird. Hard to know what to make of it. The acting wasnt amazing either i thought.
Tar - This one im going to have to take a stab at again. Have to be in a certain mood i reckon. I lasted about 20 mins. Couldnt take anymore of Cate Blanchetts verbal diarrhea. (not a fan of her as an actress anyway)

The standard of movies around is shocking. Havent watched aftersun yet.
So there you go. Youz are welcome.

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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:36 pm
by camroc1
Saw the Fablemans this afternoon.

It's a Spielberg film, so lots of hokieness. It's also a bit self reverential, perhaps more so than you'd expect.

It's a film in three distinct parts, New jersey, Arizona and California, relating to three different times in his childhood/adolescence. The Arizona part is probably the most satisfying, in that it explores how/why he became a film maker. The California part could be an episode of any one of many California teenage high school TV series; I can only surmise deliberately.

His parents relationship is really skirted round a lot. That said his mother is portrayed as somewhat of a selfish bitch, and his father a selfish saint.

The meeting John Ford bit at the end is the ultimate in self aggrandisement.

Although given the title how much is truth, and how much fable is open to question.

That said for 2 hrs 20 minutes it doesn't seem long; but the only reason it will bother the Oscars is that it's Spielberg.

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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:46 pm
by Floppykid
camroc1 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:39 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:17 pm

I am bumping this post as it’s the best explainer so far about this film. I think a lot of people unfamiliar with the classic Irish plays didn’t get a lot of it. There’s a lot more than Cammy gets to here as well. It’s a bit of a masterpiece.
Indeed, Duff.

Is Jenny the Donkey a reference to O'Conaire's M'Asal Beag Dubh, and that storyline an allegory of how the Irish revivalist movement was firstly, heavily supported by the nascent state, but later on, particularly when the bombs started going off in the North, was left to wither ?
I think you're going a bit far with the allegory Cammy.

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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:53 pm
by camroc1
Floppykid wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:46 pm
camroc1 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:39 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:17 pm

I am bumping this post as it’s the best explainer so far about this film. I think a lot of people unfamiliar with the classic Irish plays didn’t get a lot of it. There’s a lot more than Cammy gets to here as well. It’s a bit of a masterpiece.
Indeed, Duff.

Is Jenny the Donkey a reference to O'Conaire's M'Asal Beag Dubh, and that storyline an allegory of how the Irish revivalist movement was firstly, heavily supported by the nascent state, but later on, particularly when the bombs started going off in the North, was left to wither ?
I think you're going a bit far with the allegory Cammy.
You don't say...... :lol:

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:47 am
by mabunch78
I see Banshees has been nominated for Best British Film at the BAFTAS....touch insensitive given the material....but I'm sure the Irishers don't mind... :lol:

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:27 am
by blindcider
mabunch78 wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:47 am I see Banshees has been nominated for Best British Film at the BAFTAS....touch insensitive given the material....but I'm sure the Irishers don't mind... :lol:
Isn't it a Film 4 production so presumably British funded at least?

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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:04 am
by mabunch78
blindcider wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:27 am
mabunch78 wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:47 am I see Banshees has been nominated for Best British Film at the BAFTAS....touch insensitive given the material....but I'm sure the Irishers don't mind... :lol:
Isn't it a Film 4 production so presumably British funded at least?
Spivs gonna spiv, eh lads...

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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:55 pm
by Floppykid
Subjected myself to the new Ant Man movie, horrific bilge.
The Marvel formula is rattling and falling apart.

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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:34 am
by UncleFB
blindcider wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:27 am
mabunch78 wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:47 am I see Banshees has been nominated for Best British Film at the BAFTAS....touch insensitive given the material....but I'm sure the Irishers don't mind... :lol:
Isn't it a Film 4 production so presumably British funded at least?
It's a British film set in Ireland - British funded, British written, British directed ... :P

The more distance I've got from it the less I think I like it.

I don't think it's a great year for awards type movies. Aftersun was another that disappointed me after the hype it's getting, although I rate it higher than Banshees. The little girl in it put in a stunning performance.

I think TAR was the worst of the awards type movies. Great performance by Blanchett but so much un-needed film snob bollocks. Just tell a fvcking story.

Actually 2022 doesn't really have many memorable movies when I think about it.