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My redneck colleagues in the US, on the other side of the political spectrum seem to suffer from this also. Everything from burnt toast to dogs shitting inside seems to be blamed on Obama.Altazuma wrote:It is the nature of NZ politics.The Mighty All Blacks wrote:I don't quite get how it is Key's fault
Everything is Key's fault.
The Mighty All Blacks wrote:Let me rephrase.
I can't see how they can prove it is keys fault
Come on TMAB, if this had happened when Clark was PM you'd be leading the charge against her!The Mighty All Blacks wrote:Pretty hard to oversee something that no one has told you is happening
Of course I would, but there is s difference. She was a horrible, bitchy dyke.The Mighty All Blacks wrote:Pretty hard to oversee something that no one has told you is happening
Top bloke. Guy you'd wanna have a beer with.Piltdown Man wrote:Key:Smug ,supercilious,superior,smirking,sperm breathed ex merchant banker and John Banks bum buddy.
A cock of the highest order and way below Helens intellect.
Gooooonnnne next election if their is a God.
That might depend on whether Labour can manage a credible candidate and economic policy.Piltdown Man wrote:Key:Smug ,supercilious,superior,smirking,sperm breathed ex merchant banker and John Banks bum buddy.
A cock of the highest order and way below Helens intellect.
Gooooonnnne next election if there is a God.
Mind you with fuckwits like TMAB allowed to vote maybe not
Must be a Key euphemism for 'highly embarrassing so let's not go there'.slow wing wrote:PM has apologised to Dotcom...
Key to Dotcom: I'm sorry
He has apologised that Dotcom was illegally spied on by the NZ's international spy agency - rather than the domestic version, presumably.
However, he hasn't apologised to the family for the illegal military style raid on the family home etc. As already posted, he considers the problem there to be a 'very technical' issue. So it is a little bit strange.
Exactly, Key may well be all of the above but the alternatives makes one shudder..Altazuma wrote:That might depend on whether Labour can manage a credible candidate and economic policy.Piltdown Man wrote:Key:Smug ,supercilious,superior,smirking,sperm breathed ex merchant banker and John Banks bum buddy.
A cock of the highest order and way below Helens intellect.
Gooooonnnne next election if there is a God.
Mind you with fuckwits like TMAB allowed to vote maybe not
I agree completely with your first sentence and will still probably vote for him unless something dramatic happens.
A bit disgusted with Key's answer on that - at around 4 minutes into the video. He is parroting the police line that they had do use all that force in order to minimize the risk. He even dreams up a scenario of a couple of police killed if they hadn't done the raid like that. That's a real stretch!slow wing wrote:PM has apologised to Dotcom...
Key to Dotcom: I'm sorry
He has apologised that Dotcom was illegally spied on by the NZ's international spy agency - rather than the domestic version, presumably.
However, he hasn't apologised to the family for the illegal military style raid on the family home etc. As already posted, he considers the problem there to be a 'very technical' issue. So it is a little bit strange.
What a f**king tosser, an absolute wanker Key is turning out to be. Key needs to lose the barber that's giving him the medieval hairstyles, but that's still not gonna elevate his image a whole lot. He stinks of shit over this case. It's a veritable wave of verbal diarrhea coming out of his gob every time he gives an answer related to it.He is parroting the police line that they had do use all that force in order to minimize the risk. He even dreams up a scenario of a couple of police killed if they hadn't done the raid like that. That's a real stretch!
Politician in being a plum shocker.yode wrote:What a f**king tosser, an absolute wanker Key is turning out to be. Key needs to lose the barber that's giving him the medieval hairstyles, but that's still not gonna elevate his image a whole lot. He stinks of shit over this case. It's a veritable wave of verbal diarrhea coming out of his gob every time he gives an answer related to it.He is parroting the police line that they had do use all that force in order to minimize the risk. He even dreams up a scenario of a couple of police killed if they hadn't done the raid like that. That's a real stretch!
Good of Mark Sainsbury to throw the "pandering to the Americans" jab at him. Wish he would've pursued it a little further though. Of course Key deflected it with more horse shit. Regarding the suppression order that he claims Bill English signed without informing him of, it's a lie, a fabrication, Key is just crapping out his mouth and no amount of journalists questions will stop him from doing so.
Care to point out the proof for this?yode wrote:What a f**king tosser, an absolute wanker Key is turning out to be. Key needs to lose the barber that's giving him the medieval hairstyles, but that's still not gonna elevate his image a whole lot. He stinks of shit over this case. It's a veritable wave of verbal diarrhea coming out of his gob every time he gives an answer related to it.He is parroting the police line that they had do use all that force in order to minimize the risk. He even dreams up a scenario of a couple of police killed if they hadn't done the raid like that. That's a real stretch!
Good of Mark Sainsbury to throw the "pandering to the Americans" jab at him. Wish he would've pursued it a little further though. Of course Key deflected it with more horse shit. Regarding the suppression order that he claims Bill English signed without informing him of, it's a lie, a fabrication, Key is just crapping out his mouth and no amount of journalists questions will stop him from doing so.
The actual situation, as I understand it, is instead that every extradition request must be sent to a Minister for review, and the Minister has complete discretion to turn it down if they choose. As posted previously on this thread, the following is Section 21 of the Extradition Act 1999[1]:PM John Key said at ~03:00, not wrote:We are subject to a treaty ... We do not get an option.
Reference:21 Notice to Minister
(1) If a District Court Judge issues a provisional warrant under section 20, the applicant for the warrant must report the issue of the warrant to the Minister.
(2) The applicant must include in the report to the Minister a copy of the warrant issued in the extradition country and the other documentary evidence produced to the court by the applicant.
(3) On receipt of the report under subsection (1), the Minister may, if the Minister thinks fit, order that the proceedings be discontinued.
(4) If the Minister orders that the extradition proceedings be discontinued, the Minister may cancel any warrant of arrest and order the discharge of any person arrested under the warrant.
(5) The Minister must notify the court of any action taken by the Minister under subsection (3) or subsection (4).
Not if he doesn't know it is happening.eugenius wrote:I don't quite get how it is Key's fault
His ultimate responsibility certainly ...
As for him being experienced at the hight of world finance / economic's !?!
His was rather a very limited speciality - and a extremely self serving one at that .
If integrity is running for cover and providing only the most glib and disinterested answers to honest questioning then - yep johnkey is your man alright.
Careful TMAB's your homophobia is peaking again.
You don't quite get how this leadership ultimate responsibility thing works do you dear ?Not if he doesn't know it is happening.
So your advice would be to get rid of all department heads and get the PM to run every department?eugenius wrote:You don't quite get how this leadership ultimate responsibility thing works do you dear ?Not if he doesn't know it is happening.
And it won't be long before Dishonest John hops into bed with Winston.merlin the happy pig wrote:Politician in being a plum shocker.
Integrity is something Key lost a long time ago.
The John Banks fiasco makes him look pathetic. How can he refuse to read a police report on one of his ministers. It's your f**king job to know.
As for the Kim Dot Com affair, of course the whole thing is a sop to the Americans, of course John Key knew about it in advance. None of it would have happened unless the pressure had come from the government to help the Americans in any way possible.
The whole shabby Sky city, let people buy legislation affair is also a huge wakeup call for people who think their P.M. is just a 'good bloke'.
Labour TBH though are barely an alternative at the moment, but be under no illusion, Key is a shyster of the first order.
Like Labour wouldn'tSecretAgentMan wrote:And it won't be long before Dishonest John hops into bed with Winston.merlin the happy pig wrote:Politician in being a plum shocker.
Integrity is something Key lost a long time ago.
The John Banks fiasco makes him look pathetic. How can he refuse to read a police report on one of his ministers. It's your f**king job to know.
As for the Kim Dot Com affair, of course the whole thing is a sop to the Americans, of course John Key knew about it in advance. None of it would have happened unless the pressure had come from the government to help the Americans in any way possible.
The whole shabby Sky city, let people buy legislation affair is also a huge wakeup call for people who think their P.M. is just a 'good bloke'.
Labour TBH though are barely an alternative at the moment, but be under no illusion, Key is a shyster of the first order.
Has Labour said they wouldn't?The Mighty All Blacks wrote:Like Labour wouldn'tSecretAgentMan wrote:And it won't be long before Dishonest John hops into bed with Winston.merlin the happy pig wrote:Politician in being a plum shocker.
Integrity is something Key lost a long time ago.
The John Banks fiasco makes him look pathetic. How can he refuse to read a police report on one of his ministers. It's your f**king job to know.
As for the Kim Dot Com affair, of course the whole thing is a sop to the Americans, of course John Key knew about it in advance. None of it would have happened unless the pressure had come from the government to help the Americans in any way possible.
The whole shabby Sky city, let people buy legislation affair is also a huge wakeup call for people who think their P.M. is just a 'good bloke'.
Labour TBH though are barely an alternative at the moment, but be under no illusion, Key is a shyster of the first order.
I couldn't give a fudge whether John Key is PM or not other than the fact the alternative is frankly scarey and he hasn't actually done anything wrong.eugenius wrote:Simply nod if you can't talk with John's cock in your mouth TMAB'S ....
Sorry to break up your love-in with EugeThe Mighty All Blacks wrote:I couldn't give a fudge whether John Key is PM or not other than the fact the alternative is frankly scarey and he hasn't actually done anything wrong.eugenius wrote:Simply nod if you can't talk with John's cock in your mouth TMAB'S ....
but why is Shearer frankly scarey as an alternative?UncleFB wrote:Sorry to break up your love-in with EugeThe Mighty All Blacks wrote:I couldn't give a fudge whether John Key is PM or not other than the fact the alternative is frankly scarey and he hasn't actually done anything wrong.eugenius wrote:Simply nod if you can't talk with John's cock in your mouth TMAB'S ....
a) I never said the bold. I was responding to TMABs assertion about the scariness.jambanja wrote:UncleFB wrote:Sorry to break up your love-in with EugeThe Mighty All Blacks wrote:I couldn't give a fudge whether John Key is PM or not other than the fact the alternative is frankly scarey and he hasn't actually done anything wrong.eugenius wrote:Simply nod if you can't talk with John's cock in your mouth TMAB'S ....
Far be it for me, a "foreigner" to get involved in NZ politics, but from what I've seen so far of Shearer, he couldn't lead his way out of a wet paper bag...He appears very weak and does not fill me with confidence.
What is it about him that you think would make him a better alternative to Key
Honestly?The Mighty All Blacks wrote:I couldn't give a fudge whether John Key is PM or not other than the fact the alternative is frankly scarey and he hasn't actually done anything wrong.eugenius wrote:Simply nod if you can't talk with John's cock in your mouth TMAB'S ....
