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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:38 am 
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Ian Foster has announced the eligibility.

The location of the province that a player first represented at senior level. This is going to be awesome!

https://www.allblacks.com/news/foster-r ... sDkJZTWt0A


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:47 am 
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So what would a South Island team look like?

15. David Havili (Tasman)
14. Jordie Barrett (Canterbury)
13. Brayden Ennor (Canterbury)
12. Jack Goodhue (Canterbury)
11. George Bridge (Canterbury)
10. Richie Mo'unga (Canterbury)
9. Brad Weber (Otago)

8. Shannon Frizell (Tasman)
7. Dillon Hunt (Otago)
6. Cullen Grace (Canterbury)
5. Sam Whitelock (Canterbury)
4. Scott Barrett (Canterbury)
3. Nepo Laulala (Canterbury)
2. Codie Taylor (Canterbury)
1. Joe Moody (Canterbury)


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:54 am 
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A North Island team?

15. Beauden Barrett (Taranaki)
14. Sevu Reece (Waikato)
13. Reiko Ioane (Auckland)
12. Anton Lienart-Brown (Waikato)
11. Mark Telea (North Harbour)
10. Otere Black (Manawatu)
9. Aaron Smith (Manawatu)

8. Hoskins Sotutu (Auckland)
7. Ardie Savea (Wellington)
6. Sam Cane (BoP)
5. Patrick Tuipulotu (Auckland)
4. Isaia Walker-Leawere (Wellington)
3. Ofa Tu'ungafasi (Auckland)
2. Dane Coles (Wellington)
1. Karl Tu'inukuafe (North Harbour)


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:07 am 
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12. Jack Goodhue (Canterbury)


Disgusting poach.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:58 am 
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Think Cane made debut for BoP.

Like the idea of the game. Like to see MacDonald coach one of the teams. Robertson the other. Or is AB coaches?


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kiwigreg369 wrote:
Or is AB coaches?


So the North gets Foster? Just when it was looking promising 2020 really comes back to kick you in the nuts


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:13 am 
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kiwigreg369 wrote:
Think Cane made debut for BoP.

Like the idea of the game. Like to see MacDonald coach one of the teams. Robertson the other. Or is AB coaches?


You're right about Cane. Was just going from memory so I may have some others wrong.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:04 am 
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State of Where you played your first provincial match doesn’t quite have the same ring to it as State of Origin.

AC - isn’t Barrett out for the season? The locks match up would have been tasty if BBBR was playing this season.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:07 am 
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Island of Origin....

That will screw with the NHers as well.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:10 am 
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kiwigreg369 wrote:
Island of Origin....

That will screw with the NHers as well.

I think the Sth Is team would lose about 10 of their starting lineup if it was actual island of origin.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:14 am 
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Yep, and the IQ would go down a lot as well, so we have to be kind to the poor inbred buggers.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:21 am 
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First provincial match is a joke considering how you would see brothers lining up against each other.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:01 am 
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UncleFB wrote:
State of Where you played your first provincial match doesn’t quite have the same ring to it as State of Origin.

AC - isn’t Barrett out for the season? The locks match up would have been tasty if BBBR was playing this season.


I thought he was just our for the SR season, I haven't seen anything about him being out for all of 2020.


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Wilderbeast wrote:
First provincial match is a joke considering how you would see brothers lining up against each other.

Shut up


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:05 am 
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Wilderbeast wrote:
First provincial match is a joke considering how you would see brothers lining up against each other.


Brothers currently play against each other in test Rugby. I assume you also think test Rugby is a joke?

What criteria could NZR possibly impose that would ensure that brothers can never play against each other? Please suggest a system that wouldn't be a "joke".


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:18 am 
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Ali's Choice wrote:
Wilderbeast wrote:
First provincial match is a joke considering how you would see brothers lining up against each other.


Brothers currently play against each other in test Rugby. I assume you also think test Rugby is a joke?

What criteria could NZR possibly impose that would ensure that brothers can never play against each other? Please suggest a system that wouldn't be a "joke".


My point is that the whole idea is you represent where you are from. Main beef is obviously that the South Island gets 2 Barrett’s, when all three are blatantly north island and are currently all signed with their home province, taranaki.

Let me have my moan.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:23 am 
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Wilderbeast wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
Wilderbeast wrote:
First provincial match is a joke considering how you would see brothers lining up against each other.


Brothers currently play against each other in test Rugby. I assume you also think test Rugby is a joke?

What criteria could NZR possibly impose that would ensure that brothers can never play against each other? Please suggest a system that wouldn't be a "joke".


My point is that the whole idea is you represent where you are from. Main beef is obviously that the South Island gets 2 Barrett’s, when all three are blatantly north island and are currently all signed with their home province, taranaki.

Let me have my moan.


You can moan all you like, but there isn't a criteria that you or I could possibly conjure up that would prevent brothers ever playing against each other. Brothers can play against each other in State of Origin, test rugby and any other contest you can name. Tbf, Jordie Barrett was developed by Canterbury. He spent years in their academy system.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:24 am 
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Ali's Choice wrote:
Wilderbeast wrote:
First provincial match is a joke considering how you would see brothers lining up against each other.


Brothers currently play against each other in test Rugby. I assume you also think test Rugby is a joke?

What criteria could NZR possibly impose that would ensure that brothers can never play against each other? Please suggest a system that wouldn't be a "joke".



Well, it wouldn't necessarily ensure it but making qualification based on where someone played high school rugby would make it less likely brothers would match up against each other, but more importantly would make it much more likely that a player would be representing a region they spent the formative part of their rugby career in.

I see why they've not done that though, as good as Canterbury & the Crusaders are the South Island is less than a 3rd of the population and there'd be a lot of star players who wouldn't get to play.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:28 am 
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Need to change the name of the fixture. Need I remind you guys about a certain north vs south conflict where south represent white slavers?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:30 am 
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Jay Cee Gee wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
Wilderbeast wrote:
First provincial match is a joke considering how you would see brothers lining up against each other.


Brothers currently play against each other in test Rugby. I assume you also think test Rugby is a joke?

What criteria could NZR possibly impose that would ensure that brothers can never play against each other? Please suggest a system that wouldn't be a "joke".



Well, it wouldn't necessarily ensure it but making qualification based on where someone played high school rugby would make it less likely brothers would match up against each other, but more importantly would make it much more likely that a player would be representing a region they spent the formative part of their rugby career in.

I see why they've not done that though, as good as Canterbury & the Crusaders are the South Island is less than a 3rd of the population and there'd be a lot of star players who wouldn't get to play.


High school. Sure, I'd happily welcome Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Damien McKenzie and Anton Leinart-Brown to the SI team.


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High school. Sure, I'd happily welcome Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Damien McKenzie and Anton Leinart-Brown to the SI team.


:thumbup:


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Jay Cee Gee wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
High school. Sure, I'd happily welcome Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Damien McKenzie and Anton Leinart-Brown to the SI team.


:thumbup:


It would be better than this contrived first province bullshit. Play for where you come from, none of this ARL derived crap that bleeds meaning out of the thing before it even sees the grass.


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guy smiley wrote:
Jay Cee Gee wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
High school. Sure, I'd happily welcome Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Damien McKenzie and Anton Leinart-Brown to the SI team.


:thumbup:


It would be better than this contrived first province bullshit. Play for where you come from, none of this ARL derived crap that bleeds meaning out of the thing before it even sees the grass.


:thumbup:


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Personally, I think I would prefer to see it played with teams from the current provincial sides, not the ones from years ago


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I actually think the criteria is fine. No system would be perfect but this one seems as good as any. I wouldn't have a major issue if the criteria was where they were born, where they played 1st XV, or where they currently play provincial Rugby, but none of those rules are inherently better, and they also have their faults. I'd argue that making Blues captain Patrick Tuipulotu play for the SI just because he spent his childhood in CHCH is as silly an outcome as any you'll find with the proposed system.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:15 pm 
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Why not where you were born? If not born in NZ then where you first played senior rugby.


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CrazyIslander wrote:
Why not where you were born? If not born in NZ then where you first played senior rugby.


The South relies on imports and would get crushed if that was the case. The North has the industrial and military might to smash them bro.


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Auckman wrote:
CrazyIslander wrote:
Why not where you were born? If not born in NZ then where you first played senior rugby.


The South relies on imports and would get crushed if that was the case. The North has the industrial and military might to smash them bro.

Already there's a David vs Goliath scenario. The south could draw on the toughness of their environment. The Southern Earthquakes they should be known.


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Point of Order, this is an internal fixture in NZ so the correct phonetic spelling is " Metch"


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:57 pm 
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‘Province.of.Origin!’

Catchy title, no?


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shanky wrote:
‘Province.of.Origin!’

Catchy title, no?

"Brorigin"


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Bro of Origin


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CrazyIslander wrote:
shanky wrote:
‘Province.of.Origin!’

Catchy title, no?

"Brorigin"


:thumbup:

Choice bro cuzzie posse


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I'm scared of the new hakas already. I reckon someone will snap the goalposts.


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Confirmed for August 29th at Eden Park

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Rugby fans will once again get to witness a traditional rivalry rarely seen since the game turned professional more than 20 years ago.

The classic North Island v South Island clash has been revived and is scheduled for Eden Park on August 29.

According to the Breakdown on Sky Sport, selection for the historic inter-island fixture will depend on which province a player made their first-class debut for.

The match is thought to be an All Black trial, similar to this one from 1978 in New Plymouth.

All Blacks assistant coaches John Plumtree and Scott McLeod will coach the north, and Greg Feek and Brad Mooar the south.

The inter-island match was once a regular fixture on the New Zealand rugby calendar, starting in 1897 and running through till 1995 when it became a victim of the crowded calendar that developed as the game went professional.

Since then, only two games have been played, one in 1995 and most recently in 2012.

There have been 80 matches with the North winning 50, the South winning 27 and three draws.

The games have seen the North play in black and the South in White.


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I go along with AC, first province they played for as good as anything. I quite like province they aligned to now,which is how it used to be from memory, but no biggie.
All the argument about where you played 1st XV is no different with scholarships. Seem the NI will have a tasty loose forward combo with the gun young No8s to be fitted in hopefully, and Cane,Savea and Papalii. They get 2 good 9s, a couple of decent 10s, 12s etc etc!


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North Island have like 4x the population so obviously it needs to be balanced to something like where they started senior rugby. This is a reasonable compromise.

That said I still think the North will be 5-10 pt favorites.


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Ok lookin at maybe a NI team I may pick. And in saying that there still a few weeks to go, and I just throwing it out there.
15 D Mac
14 S Reece
13 R Ioane
12 ALB
11 C Clarke
10 BB
9 A Smith
8 Mikaele Tu'u *
7 Cane
6 Sotutu *
5 Goodhue/Ah Kuoi
4 Big PT
3 Laulala
2 Coles
1 Tuungafasi
Bench; Lumpy,O Black, TJ, Ardie, goodhue/Ah Kuoi, Aumua and a couple of props that need to put up their hands!!

I got an asterick against Mikaele Tu'u and Sotutu because they could be played other way around, but would like a peek at the 2 of them!


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Savea would be at 8 I suspect.


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Brad Weber is a Magpie, is he not?


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