dr dre2 wrote:I now see it as inevitable also. I hoped that the Scottish would not leave, but the margin was too fine for me. There are too many Scots who were willing to throw away the Union, it has had the effect on me (and i'm sure many others in the rest of the UK) that I'd now quite like them to go, especially as it now seems that the SNP are now going to attempt to play (all so obvious) Machiavellian bollox in order to piss the rest of us off enough to resent the Scots so the relationship becomes untenable. I'd like to avoid that and they just f**k off. The Unionists in Scotland may want to remember that, you may feel the SNP are going to give you a strong voice in the UK and you may not see it as a mandate to push for independence. The rest of the UK will see it as an insult and will get very tired of the games. The English are already starting to feel, you're twisting the situation too far to your advantage and the Welsh feel your selfishly twisting it to their detriment with regard to Barnet. The SNP have sensed that and are going to push and push until the rest of the UK turns on Scotland (with regard to popular opinion). If you're pro union but thinking of voting SNP for protest reasons, or "strong voice" reasons I would not vote SNP, you may get asked to leave union in the end.karahi wrote:I'm afraid that if, as predicted, the SNP wins an overwhelming majority of Scottish seats in the GE, it will become very difficult to deny the SNP a new referendum in the next parliament, whatever was said the last time around. Which I suspect the SNP will win.
The level of grievance that a lot of Scots seem to be nursing appears to be such that almost anything Westminster does now will play into the SNP's hands. I think it's time for Unionists to accept, with regret, that the union of Scotland with England and Wales is over.
The margin wasn't that fine.. it was 55 v 45.. That's pretty significant. In the Quebec referendum it was much closer and the referendum issue has pretty much disappeared now there. Certainly that's the outcome I'm hoping for.