All of which I get. For me the point is that the public here have to be more honest about which trade offs they are prepared to accept, especially while they work on longer term systematic changes on the justice system so certain offenders feel less incentivized to try and run. If you want to address police conduct then target what they enjoy limited immunity for and build a system around that.etherman wrote:Being stopped for commiting a legitimate traffic offence is one thing. But, as with the nurse the other day there can be all kinds of vague reasons given 'windows too tinted (they werent)' 'a lot of burglaries in the area' 'you fit a description (i.e young black male)'.Mr Mike wrote:Ted Bundy is a good example of your first point.Santa wrote:I believe there is a relatively high incidence of people being stopped for one thing also being wanted for another. I also understand that the information flow can be extremely poor.
A couple of incidents where a felon was left to run and then did something bad would put an end to any such policy very, very quickly.
Also, such a policy would incentivise people to resist arrest I reckon.
Understand your points of the effect of the policy but that’s where people have to be very clear about tradeoffs and expectations. There is reasons for the current practice and if that changes then a sufficient percentage of the population will need to be onboard about those.In the early hours of the morning, Bundy was driving down a street in his Volkswagen Beetle with his lights off when a patrol officer in the area happened to notice him. When the officer commanded Bundy to stop, he disobeyed and the policeman arrested him for what initially seemed like a misdemeanor.
Plus the difference in the states is where we all think, sure just let them cuff you and take your punishment, black guys know the criminal justice system will f*ck them and it can very quickly become, take plea bargain slammer time or the judge will go to town on you. A fair trial is a rarity.
The sleepy Wendys guy is the problem in a nutshell. In most otherdeveloped countries the guy probably wouldnt run. In most other developed countries the cops probably wouldn't have shot. Its a toxic system beyond the officers, which is why in essence BLM is right, despite some of the associated nonsense.
“The nurse”, was that a reference to Breonna Taylor?