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Does anybody else think that Boris/Patel have played a blinder

1. We are talking about statues of Churchill and Baden-Powell and how BLM want to deface them
2. We are talking about War Memorials and how BLM want to deface them
3. We are talking about Labour's letter which implies that if you are Black or Asian or Ethnic Minority you must be a Labour supported or you are a traitor to your race
4. We are talking about Fawlty Towers and Inbetweeners and how BLM want to ban them

All this makes BLM look dangerous, make Labour look like BLM lapdogs, and Johnson/Patel come out smelling of roses
They are benefitting but not sure how they've "played" anything.

As always people have picked their side in the culture war, so certainly they can say the right things to appeal to their followers.

Starmer appears to be trying to stay out of it, which is wise, as there probably is a nuanced middle of voters. None of the people ranting in the media/social media will ever change their opinion on this so there's probably nothing to be gained by praising or criticising any particular protest activity.

Starmer will never ideologically be on the Johnson/Patel side of the culture war so he has to hope that the silent group of people with nuanced opinions tilt towards his world view.
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I like haggis wrote:https://twitter.com/dansabbagh/status/1 ... 94048?s=20

Nazi salutes Infront of the cenotaph. Churchill would be proud.
They are a shower of utter morons but you are seeing what you are wanting to see. That's not nazi salutes, it's just a bloody arm raised to a chant. :lol:
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New guy wrote:
I like haggis wrote:https://twitter.com/dansabbagh/status/1 ... 94048?s=20

Nazi salutes Infront of the cenotaph. Churchill would be proud.
I'm not seeing any Nazi salutes. Watched 3 times.
Guy in the blue near the camera on has one arm raised with his hand out.

Most others looks like football chanting. Still good for the England boys to get their day out sans Euro 2020
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Having disrespectd British was hereos with their nazi salutes, the far right scum are now attacking the police.
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I like haggis wrote:https://twitter.com/dansabbagh/status/1 ... 94048?s=20

Nazi salutes Infront of the cenotaph. Churchill would be proud.
I can't tell if it's because I don't have my glasses on but I can't see any Nazi salutes? Funny singing though :lol:
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SamShark wrote:
Does anybody else think that Boris/Patel have played a blinder

1. We are talking about statues of Churchill and Baden-Powell and how BLM want to deface them
2. We are talking about War Memorials and how BLM want to deface them
3. We are talking about Labour's letter which implies that if you are Black or Asian or Ethnic Minority you must be a Labour supported or you are a traitor to your race
4. We are talking about Fawlty Towers and Inbetweeners and how BLM want to ban them

All this makes BLM look dangerous, make Labour look like BLM lapdogs, and Johnson/Patel come out smelling of roses
They are benefitting but not sure how they've "played" anything.

As always people have picked their side in the culture war, so certainly they can say the right things to appeal to their followers.

Starmer appears to be trying to stay out of it, which is wise, as there probably is a nuanced middle of voters. None of the people ranting in the media/social media will ever change their opinion on this so there's probably nothing to be gained by praising or criticising any particular protest activity.

Starmer will never ideologically be on the Johnson/Patel side of the culture war so he has to hope that the silent group of people with nuanced opinions tilt towards his world view.
Agree with your comments about Starmer. All he can do is alienate the middle ground.

In relation to the violence, it will be played as "the police allow BLM to do what they want, but as soon as we try to defend the statue, cenotaph they come down on us like a ton of bricks" or "political correctness policing"
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I see every single thing Konstantin Kisin tweeted has now happened...

Slippery slope were going down here.
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Wendigo7 wrote:I see every single thing Konstantin Kisin tweeted has now happened...

Slippery slope were going down here.
He is bang on

https://twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/sta ... 3597615111


"You're going to hate me for writing this. You're going to resist what I say because you don't want it to be true. You're going to pretend that I want this to be true when, in fact, there is nothing I hate more than the fact that is has come to this.

Here is what happens next:


If protestors continue to deface monuments like Winston Churchill's statue and burn British flags on the Cenotaph, you will see groups forming to defend them. These groups will be composed primarily of young, angry white men and led by people with links to groups like the EDL and

...Tommy Robinson. This is already happening.

The groups will gather in city centres to "defend our country". They will have names with words like "patriotic", "British", "defence" in them.

Inevitably, they will clash with the current protestors and the police. Under pressure

...from the media and political class, the police will overreact. They will treat these groups differently to the BLM protestors. They will use force. They will detain people for breaking lockdown rules. They will issue stiff sentences.

The media will do the opposite of what...


...they did with the BLM protestors - instead of talking about how "27 police officers were injured in "largely peaceful" protests", they will run major front page headlines like "27 police officers injured by far right violence".

At this point, the majority of the public...

...will lose the ability to be nuanced. The double standards will be too obvious to ignore. Fuelled by a constant stream of images of white people kneeling, washing POC feet and publicly apologising, as they already are, they will conclude that their very identity is under attack
Konstantin Kisin

At this point, all their sensible aversion to supporting thuggish far right groups will evaporate. They will believe they are in a war for their survival and extreme measures are justified.

At the next election, which will likely be brought forward for one reason or another...

...fuelled by mass unemployment resulting from the economic depression, far right parties will make significant inroads. When I say “far right”, I am not talking about what the far left call “far right” such as anyone who talks about controlling immigration. I’m talking about...

...genuine far right parties that talk about *reversing* immigration and deportations.

These parties will not win seats or get anywhere near Government but they will put a UKIP-like pressure on the Conservatives. Boris Johnson will likely be ousted as too soft and liberal and...

From here, I’m afraid, the journey is all too obvious.

The only way to prevent this is to reverse the re-racialisation of our society. Either we learn to live together or the very idea of a multi-ethnic society is over. /End"
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You can literally go through the tweets and tick them off one after another.
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I don't see it as particularly bang on.

We've had a number of years of divisive culture war now, stoked deliberately by the media day in day out.

This is the latest incident, but I don't see it as the catalyst for anything. We're coming of the back of endless Brexit demos where the same arguments played out - allegations of "X are thugs", "Y are remoaners who don't respect democracy"

It's also a strange perspective that the media and political class have been biased towards BLM protests - the media and political class have taken the expected side depending on which publication or politician.

I could be wrong but remain hopeful that most people are largely in the same place - they don't agree with violence or excessive vandalism by any side and recognise that a tiny proportion of the population has engaged in violence, regardless of whatever the politicians and media say.
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SamShark wrote:I don't see it as particularly bang on.

We've had a number of years of divisive culture war now, stoked deliberately by the media day in day out.

This is the latest incident, but I don't see it as the catalyst for anything. We're coming of the back of endless Brexit demos where the same arguments played out - allegations of "X are thugs", "Y are remoaners who don't respect democracy"

It's also a strange perspective that the media and political class have been biased towards BLM protests - the media and political class have taken the expected side depending on which publication or politician.

I could be wrong but remain hopeful that most people are largely in the same place - they don't agree with violence or excessive vandalism by any side and recognise that a tiny proportion of the population has engaged in violence, regardless of whatever the politicians and media say.

If you are right then if today 27 police officers are injured I expect to see headlines calling today's demonstrations "largely peaceful"
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It's also a strange perspective that the media and political class have been biased towards BLM protests - the media and political class have taken the expected side depending on which publication or politician.

It’s not strange, you on,y don’t think it’s strange because you agree with how this is being covered , particularly by TV news, which in the case of the BBC shouldn’t have a “side”.
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Are you talking about a single article or headline - I'm not sure what you're reffering to?

The PM and Home secratary (the political class) have roundly condemned protests. Even Starmer said it was wrong to throw the statue in the river.

People have agendas don't they - it's fairly obvious that some people will be more sympathetic/biased towards a certain side and look for evidence of perceived bias in others.

Just like the last few years where everyone has been suggesting the media is biased against their cause or preferred politician etc, people accusing the media of playing up or down the size of protests.
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SamShark wrote:Are you talking about a single article or headline - I'm not sure what you're reffering to?

The PM and Home secratary (the political class) have roundly condemned protests. Even Starmer said it was wrong to throw the statue in the river.

People have agendas don't they - it's fairly obvious that some people will be more sympathetic/biased towards a certain side and look for evidence of perceived bias in others.

Just like the last few years where everyone has been suggesting the media is biased against their cause or preferred politician etc, people accusing the media of playing up or down the size of protests.

I’m referring directly in the case of the BBC at the “largely peaceful protests”.


Sky and C4 news are beyond any redemption.
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bimboman wrote:
It's also a strange perspective that the media and political class have been biased towards BLM protests - the media and political class have taken the expected side depending on which publication or politician.

It’s not strange, you on,y don’t think it’s strange because you agree with how this is being covered , particularly by TV news, which in the case of the BBC shouldn’t have a “side”.
It is of course entirely predictable that people like me and people like you will disagree - it's exactly what I'm saying.

Rather than being a new phenomenen, this is same old same old, with the same people looking for percieved media bias and slights.
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mdaclarke wrote:
SamShark wrote:I don't see it as particularly bang on.

We've had a number of years of divisive culture war now, stoked deliberately by the media day in day out.

This is the latest incident, but I don't see it as the catalyst for anything. We're coming of the back of endless Brexit demos where the same arguments played out - allegations of "X are thugs", "Y are remoaners who don't respect democracy"

It's also a strange perspective that the media and political class have been biased towards BLM protests - the media and political class have taken the expected side depending on which publication or politician.

I could be wrong but remain hopeful that most people are largely in the same place - they don't agree with violence or excessive vandalism by any side and recognise that a tiny proportion of the population has engaged in violence, regardless of whatever the politicians and media say.

If you are right then if today 27 police officers are injured I expect to see headlines calling today's demonstrations "largely peaceful"
Got to be at least 20 injuries today. Might even get the money before christmas if they are lucky
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Anonymous. wrote:
mdaclarke wrote:
SamShark wrote:I don't see it as particularly bang on.

We've had a number of years of divisive culture war now, stoked deliberately by the media day in day out.

This is the latest incident, but I don't see it as the catalyst for anything. We're coming of the back of endless Brexit demos where the same arguments played out - allegations of "X are thugs", "Y are remoaners who don't respect democracy"

It's also a strange perspective that the media and political class have been biased towards BLM protests - the media and political class have taken the expected side depending on which publication or politician.

I could be wrong but remain hopeful that most people are largely in the same place - they don't agree with violence or excessive vandalism by any side and recognise that a tiny proportion of the population has engaged in violence, regardless of whatever the politicians and media say.

If you are right then if today 27 police officers are injured I expect to see headlines calling today's demonstrations "largely peaceful"
Got to be at least 20 injuries today. Might even get the money before christmas if they are lucky
:lol: :lol:
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SamShark wrote:I don't see it as particularly bang on.

We've had a number of years of divisive culture war now, stoked deliberately by the media day in day out.

This is the latest incident, but I don't see it as the catalyst for anything. We're coming of the back of endless Brexit demos where the same arguments played out - allegations of "X are thugs", "Y are remoaners who don't respect democracy"

It's also a strange perspective that the media and political class have been biased towards BLM protests - the media and political class have taken the expected side depending on which publication or politician.

I could be wrong but remain hopeful that most people are largely in the same place - they don't agree with violence or excessive vandalism by any side and recognise that a tiny proportion of the population has engaged in violence, regardless of whatever the politicians and media say.
I'm in agreement with you and hope as you say people come to their senses and.... chill out?

(I still think it's possible he's right and you can tick off up to now)
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Bimboc69 wrote:
shereblue wrote:
bimboman wrote:Much of the protest is from the same people who protest as extinction rebellion, or anti brexit, , pro Corbyn.


They certainly don’t demonstrate they understand how well the world works most of the time.
Dear old Message # will be enquiring whether you are a spokesman.

I know little useful about Extinction Rebellion.

However, please don't slur the one million washed, anti-Brexit protesters by connecting them with Corbyn.

The anti capitalist had no part in their protest. Au contraire, he was a stout yeoman of Brexit. Very much one of yours. Sorry.
Corbyn was pro brexit ffs :lol:
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Yes but he clearly caved into the Remain support in his party.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... jured.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-529602 ... m-protests

https://twitter.com/bbcnews/status/1269 ... 70?lang=en

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... t-picture/

To be fair the BBC have been called out on it.

I think the point that Konstantin Kisin is making is that if forced (and I do say if forced) to pick a side between BLM and the far right, the average man and woman in middle england will choose the far right.

Just a sign as to how far out of touch the metropolitan liberal elite are from the rest of the country. Trouble is that the liberal elite think that just because they are the loudest they are majority, they forget they are in a minority, the majority only speaks at election time.

Cummings knows this. (as does Johnson, the left wing criticism of his tweets will be music to his ears, he wants a culture war as he knows he will win)
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I think the average British person can live with Colston being lobbed in the harbour and Bo Selecta being binned (was it even in syndication?). But attack Saint Winston, and Fawlty Towers? Well that's just a step too far.
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mdaclarke wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... jured.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-529602 ... m-protests

https://twitter.com/bbcnews/status/1269 ... 70?lang=en

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... t-picture/

To be fair the BBC have been called out on it.

I think the point that Konstantin Kisin is making is that if forced (and I do say if forced) to pick a side between BLM and the far right, the average man and woman in middle england will choose the far right.

Just a sign as to how far out of touch the metropolitan liberal elite are from the rest of the country. Trouble is that the liberal elite think that just because they are the loudest they are majority, they forget they are in a minority, the majority only speaks at election time.

Cummings knows this. (as does Johnson, the left wing criticism of his tweets will be music to his ears, he wants a culture war as he knows he will win)
Most people don't have to pick a side. The black lives matter protests were in most cities, mostly peaceful and yes coopted by some idiots and people looking for a fight.

These are just people looking for a fight. They aren't making any point. Can't imagine many people in the country identify with people singing ten German bombers and looking menacing.

I think most people will be upset at what's gone on the last few weeks.
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https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/13/man-urin ... ssion=true

At least he's not writing some mean words on it I guess.
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Deleted post fake tweet.
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I like haggis wrote:https://twitter.com/wolfxmobz1/status/1 ... 95106?s=20

"We're racist, we're racist and that's we like it, we like it"

Starting to think this wasn't about the statues you know.

Oh dear.
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I think it's mostly told us we're all bored and need a return to some kind of normal...
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Wendigo7 wrote:I think it's mostly told us we're all bored and need a return to some kind of normal...
No ffs
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Bimboc69 wrote:
Wendigo7 wrote:I think it's mostly told us we're all bored and need a return to some kind of normal...
No ffs

Indeed it’s told us there’s a tiny amount of football hooligans left in Britain. And that their actions will be inflated by much of the media for their own and the metropolitan elites agenda.

We also know fake videos can convince.
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bimboman wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:
Wendigo7 wrote:I think it's mostly told us we're all bored and need a return to some kind of normal...
No ffs

Indeed it’s told us there’s a tiny amount of football hooligans left in Britain. And that their actions will be inflated by much of the media for their own and the metropolitan elites agenda.

We also know fake videos can convince.
Just fudge off to your friends on Stormfront Adolf
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Bimboc69 wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:
Wendigo7 wrote:I think it's mostly told us we're all bored and need a return to some kind of normal...
No ffs

Indeed it’s told us there’s a tiny amount of football hooligans left in Britain. And that their actions will be inflated by much of the media for their own and the metropolitan elites agenda.

We also know fake videos can convince.
Just fudge off to your friends on Stormfront Adolf

Yep, that’s a normal response again ......
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Probably belongs on the Entertaining pics thread but it is a cracker:

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mdaclarke wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... jured.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-529602 ... m-protests

https://twitter.com/bbcnews/status/1269 ... 70?lang=en

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... t-picture/

To be fair the BBC have been called out on it.

I think the point that Konstantin Kisin is making is that if forced (and I do say if forced) to pick a side between BLM and the far right, the average man and woman in middle england will choose the far right.

Just a sign as to how far out of touch the metropolitan liberal elite are from the rest of the country. Trouble is that the liberal elite think that just because they are the loudest they are majority, they forget they are in a minority, the majority only speaks at election time.

Cummings knows this. (as does Johnson, the left wing criticism of his tweets will be music to his ears, he wants a culture war as he knows he will win)
This certainly works for the government now they seem to have a grip on it.
The extent this debate has raged on from Colston and indeed Churchill is where it has got mad - many of us who were in the Scouts will consider people like Baden Powell to be heroes. The fact that he held views on race and gays that are not 21st century is blindingly f**king obvious rather than a reason to ‘cancel’ him in 2020. We can venerate without endorsing the social mores of the time.
The vast majority of the country agrees with this and I think fairly quickly a line in the samd has been drawn on this.
How this goes politically is interesting - Boris and the Tories are very well placed to do something of a Nixon after ‘68 and appeal to the ‘silent majority’, but what followed that in American discourse for a generation - ludicrous levels of support for the troops, huge religious fervour in politics etc is much more unhealthy.

My greater concern is the two radical elements who are coming up against each other on the streets of London today. Far right and left battling it out in the streets in the midst of a depression is a very dark path historically...
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The fattened drunken gammon kicking the policeman in the back is a proper coward. :lol:
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eldanielfire wrote:
Bimboc69 wrote:
shereblue wrote:
bimboman wrote:Much of the protest is from the same people who protest as extinction rebellion, or anti brexit, , pro Corbyn.


They certainly don’t demonstrate they understand how well the world works most of the time.
Dear old Message # will be enquiring whether you are a spokesman.

I know little useful about Extinction Rebellion.

However, please don't slur the one million washed, anti-Brexit protesters by connecting them with Corbyn.

The anti capitalist had no part in their protest. Au contraire, he was a stout yeoman of Brexit. Very much one of yours. Sorry.
Corbyn was pro brexit ffs :lol:
A Bennite
Yes but he clearly caved into the Remain support in his party.
Not being willing to publicly support his own position against what he considers imperialism isn't quite the same as caving to remain supporters. At least as a remain supporter he was supportive in much the same way as Andrew Bridgen
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I like haggis wrote:https://twitter.com/wolfxmobz1/status/1 ... 95106?s=20

"We're racist, we're racist and that's we like it, we like it"

Starting to think this wasn't about the statues you know.
the audio is actually when Chelsea fans abused a black man on a train in France back in 2015. Not from today
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New guy wrote:
I like haggis wrote:https://twitter.com/wolfxmobz1/status/1 ... 95106?s=20

"We're racist, we're racist and that's we like it, we like it"

Starting to think this wasn't about the statues you know.
the audio is actually when Chelsea fans abused a black man on a train in France back in 2015. Not from today
Ah deleted.
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I like haggis wrote:
New guy wrote:
I like haggis wrote:https://twitter.com/wolfxmobz1/status/1 ... 95106?s=20

"We're racist, we're racist and that's we like it, we like it"

Starting to think this wasn't about the statues you know.
the audio is actually when Chelsea fans abused a black man on a train in France back in 2015. Not from today
Ah deleted.
To be fair I didnt notice until I scrolled down and read that comment :lol:

Wouldn't have surprised me if it was from today.
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Anonymous. wrote:
mdaclarke wrote:
SamShark wrote:I don't see it as particularly bang on.

We've had a number of years of divisive culture war now, stoked deliberately by the media day in day out.

This is the latest incident, but I don't see it as the catalyst for anything. We're coming of the back of endless Brexit demos where the same arguments played out - allegations of "X are thugs", "Y are remoaners who don't respect democracy"

It's also a strange perspective that the media and political class have been biased towards BLM protests - the media and political class have taken the expected side depending on which publication or politician.

I could be wrong but remain hopeful that most people are largely in the same place - they don't agree with violence or excessive vandalism by any side and recognise that a tiny proportion of the population has engaged in violence, regardless of whatever the politicians and media say.

If you are right then if today 27 police officers are injured I expect to see headlines calling today's demonstrations "largely peaceful"
Got to be at least 20 injuries today. Might even get the money before christmas if they are lucky

You are a pretty pathetic, snide little prick, aren't you.
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YOYO wrote:Just out for a leisurely stroll.

https://twitter.com/tom_norm/status/127 ... 77986?s=21
Some absolute scum on display there
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These people are spoiling the largely peaceful protests and giving the good folks at Millwall FC a bad name :x.
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