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Nolanator wrote:Strong. :thumbup:

Had weird issues squatting yesterday. Even doing warmups at 60kg when I got to the bottom of the hole I'd kick my hips to the right and put most of my weight through my right leg on the concentric phase.
Spent ages trying to wake up my left glute which helped in the end. Think my left hip and left ankle were generally a bit tight which was stopping my from comfortably keeping my technique tight.
My lower back was a bit tender on Saturday on one side, might have had an influence with how freely everything was moving, too.

Managed to sort it and got three singles at 140 before a few back off sets.


Also realised that I've been racking my front squats with my hands too close together. I re-positioned them yesterday and found it much more comfortable. The bar was resting on my upper pecks, rather than clavicle.
I tend to find that feet and ankles can lose ROM without really feeling tight, and it ends up being more noticeable through problems at the hip.

Also worth doing a bit of messing around to see if you're tight or fatigued in the abductors/adductors, adductors are another thing that gets tight without being easily noticeable.

If you're getting tightness in the lower back it could be a compensation from an abductor on the other side.
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The tightness in the lower back was from "sub-optimal" deadlifts on Thursday, medium weight low bar squats and heavy benching on Friday (serious back arch), and running on Saturday morning. :lol:

My left ankle is generally a bit manky these days. If I try and stretch it in dorsiflextion (stretching calf tissues) while keeping my foot arched, I get a fairly sharp pain in the knobble on the inside of my ankle. From reading around, that's the area where the tibial posterior tendon inserts into the foot.
I would probably benefit from some serious rest on it, but I can manage it if I do some decent gentle stretching before exercise. Benching seems to aggravate it quite a bit with the leg drive, oddly.
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Nolanator wrote:Strong. :thumbup:

Had weird issues squatting yesterday. Even doing warmups at 60kg when I got to the bottom of the hole I'd kick my hips to the right and put most of my weight through my right leg on the concentric phase.
Spent ages trying to wake up my left glute which helped in the end. Think my left hip and left ankle were generally a bit tight which was stopping my from comfortably keeping my technique tight.
My lower back was a bit tender on Saturday on one side, might have had an influence with how freely everything was moving, too.

Managed to sort it and got three singles at 140 before a few back off sets.


Also realised that I've been racking my front squats with my hands too close together. I re-positioned them yesterday and found it much more comfortable. The bar was resting on my upper pecks, rather than clavicle.
Same for me re: the hips. I have to do lots of glute activation stuff before squatting just to wake up the weaker leg.
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How many calories are you guys burning on average a day?

I'm probably averaging about 3200 a day, 5000 if I am racing at a regatta.
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Yeah, FW, my left one is significantly weaker. Came to a head a few years ago where I didn't realise it and was running/squatting with poor form. Ended up with groin hip issues which stopped me doing lower body work for 6 months. Still have to keep an eye on things and make sure all is firing properly. I hate squatting without a mirror now. I'm so dependent on using it for checking my from/posture.


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Nolanator wrote:The tightness in the lower back was from "sub-optimal" deadlifts on Thursday, medium weight low bar squats and heavy benching on Friday (serious back arch), and running on Saturday morning. :lol:

My left ankle is generally a bit manky these days. If I try and stretch it in dorsiflextion (stretching calf tissues) while keeping my foot arched, I get a fairly sharp pain in the knobble on the inside of my ankle. From reading around, that's the area where the tibial posterior tendon inserts into the foot.
I would probably benefit from some serious rest on it, but I can manage it if I do some decent gentle stretching before exercise. Benching seems to aggravate it quite a bit with the leg drive, oddly.
Just good old-fashioned fatigue then. Those Rogue wraps are good for ankles, I only bought them to hit the free delivery taregt but they are actually very useful.
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I'm always down to buy more kit. :thumbup:
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Nolanator wrote:I'm always down to buy more kit. :thumbup:
You should take up rowing.

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danny_fitz wrote:How many calories are you guys burning on average a day?

I'm probably averaging about 3200 a day, 5000 if I am racing at a regatta.
I have quit measuring anything now because I have a tendency to overdo things and get burnt out. I'm just trying to eat as clean as possible. I think I've ended up with a better grip on when I'm underfed and when I just need 12 hours kip.
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danny_fitz wrote:
Nolanator wrote:I'm always down to buy more kit. :thumbup:
You should take up rowing.

Stash heaven
My gym stash is as follows:

Lifting shoes (elevated heel)
Other gym shoes (minimal sole)
Belt
Weight belt (only use this once a week)
Bands (couple of bigger bands, selection of hip circles)
Balls (lacrosse ball, and two sliotars taped together)
Foam roller (gym has some, so I don't need to bring my own)
Wrist wraps
Wrist straps
Chalk
Three types of strapping tape (underwrap, stretching heavy stuff, brown stuff)

:uhoh:
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Nolanator wrote:
danny_fitz wrote:
Nolanator wrote:I'm always down to buy more kit. :thumbup:
You should take up rowing.

Stash heaven
My gym stash is as follows:

Lifting shoes (elevated heel)
Other gym shoes (minimal sole)
Belt
Weight belt (only use this once a week)
Bands (couple of bigger bands, selection of hip circles)
Balls (lacrosse ball, and two sliotars taped together)
Foam roller (gym has some, so I don't need to bring my own)
Wrist wraps
Wrist straps
Chalk
Three types of strapping tape (underwrap, stretching heavy stuff, brown stuff)

:uhoh:
Mine is:

Lifting shoes (red Adipowers)
Other gym shoes (black Adidas wrestling shoes for deadlifts)
Inzer leaver belt (never use anymore)
Elasticated band for stretching rotator cuffs
Hockey ball
Foam roller
Wrist wraps (never use anymore)
Wrist straps (only for shrugs)
Chalk
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danny_fitz wrote:
Nolanator wrote:I'm always down to buy more kit. :thumbup:
You should take up rowing.

Stash heaven
In terms of volume, most definitely (guess it’s the training 7 days a week in all weathers at all times of year!), but not that much stuff really:

All-in-ones
Tops
Spray jacket
Leggings
Cap/Beanie/Visor
Wellies/flip flops
About 10 pairs of Oakleys
Rigger jigger
Water bottle
Spare p!ss bottle if you’re lining up for Head of the River

That’s about it, no?
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Just thinking, I've shit loads of rugby gear at home and more back in my folks' that doesn't get used any more. :(

Boots
Mouldies
Multiple undershorts (still use these running on cold days to keep the wind out of the willows)
Thermal tops
Thermal leggings (still occasionally used)
Club hoodies (two clubs)
Club tshirts (two clubs)
Club shorts (wear these all the time for leg sessions, good and tight :o )
Millions of socks
Scrumcap
Shoulder pads
Training jerseys


I own more sports gear than actual clothes.
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Nolanator wrote:
danny_fitz wrote:
Nolanator wrote:I'm always down to buy more kit. :thumbup:
You should take up rowing.

Stash heaven
My gym stash is as follows:

Lifting shoes (elevated heel)
Other gym shoes (minimal sole)
Belt
Weight belt (only use this once a week)
Bands (couple of bigger bands, selection of hip circles)
Balls (lacrosse ball, and two sliotars taped together)
Foam roller (gym has some, so I don't need to bring my own)
Wrist wraps
Wrist straps
Chalk
Three types of strapping tape (underwrap, stretching heavy stuff, brown stuff)

:uhoh:
:lol:

At any given time I will have in active use:

Welly boots for winter
Sliders for summer
6 short sleeved training tops
6 long sleeve tops
6 seamless pants (otherwise you end up with two arseholes)
Gillet
Spray top
Canterbury overtrousers
4 3/4 length leggings
loads of socks
Various caps
2 x Onsies (All in one racing suit)

And about 4 times that again in previous season gear, mostly lycra, mostly loud colours.

My locker at the club generally contains:

Fabric tape
Electrical tape
GPS Stroke meter
Ratchet with 10 and 13mm sockets
Open ended 10/13mm spanner
Set of 4,5,6mm Allen keys
Liquid skin
Deep heat
Suncream
Lights
Rehydration tabs
Ibroprofen
Personal stash of nice coffee
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danny_fitz wrote: Deep heat
Ibuprofen
Showing your age! :lol:

I have ibuprofen in my bag too, rarely used though.
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Nolanator wrote:
danny_fitz wrote: Deep heat
Ibuprofen
Showing your age! :lol:

I have ibuprofen in my bag too, rarely used though.
In fairness they are usually for hangovers
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danny_fitz wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
danny_fitz wrote: Deep heat
Ibuprofen
Showing your age! :lol:

I have ibuprofen in my bag too, rarely used though.
In fairness they are usually for hangovers
Rehydration tabs and coffee help there, too.
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danny_fitz wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
danny_fitz wrote:
Nolanator wrote:I'm always down to buy more kit. :thumbup:
You should take up rowing.

Stash heaven
My gym stash is as follows:

Lifting shoes (elevated heel)
Other gym shoes (minimal sole)
Belt
Weight belt (only use this once a week)
Bands (couple of bigger bands, selection of hip circles)
Balls (lacrosse ball, and two sliotars taped together)
Foam roller (gym has some, so I don't need to bring my own)
Wrist wraps
Wrist straps
Chalk
Three types of strapping tape (underwrap, stretching heavy stuff, brown stuff)

:uhoh:
:lol:

At any given time I will have in active use:

Welly boots for winter
Sliders for summer
6 short sleeved training tops
6 long sleeve tops
6 seamless pants (otherwise you end up with two arseholes)
Gillet
Spray top
Canterbury overtrousers
4 3/4 length leggings
loads of socks
Various caps
2 x Onsies (All in one racing suit)

And about 4 times that again in previous season gear, mostly lycra, mostly loud colours.

My locker at the club generally contains:

Fabric tape
Electrical tape
GPS Stroke meter
Ratchet with 10 and 13mm sockets
Open ended 10/13mm spanner
Set of 4,5,6mm Allen keys
Liquid skin
Deep heat
Suncream
Lights
Rehydration tabs
Ibroprofen
Personal stash of nice coffee
:shock:

Never take up cycling

:lol:
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My dad's becoming a kit whore as well, now that I think of it.
I addition to the two bicycles (racer and MTB) he's been accumulating running gear and gadgets over the last few years. Recently, for his 60th, he gave himself a gift of trail running shoes. Then stuff like chest heart rate monitor, sports watches, etc.
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So I’ll be going to the strongman National Championships in Vegas in September 😮.
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mr flaps wrote:So I’ll be going to the strongman National Championships in Vegas in September 😮.
Class! Did you qualify, or is it open entry?

Don't the likes of Brian Shaw go to that? :lol:
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mr flaps wrote:So I’ll be going to the strongman National Championships in Vegas in September 😮.
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Nolanator wrote:
mr flaps wrote:So I’ll be going to the strongman National Championships in Vegas in September 😮.
Class! Did you qualify, or is it open entry?

Don't the likes of Brian Shaw go to that? :lol:
I qualified through placing 2nd in the Connecticut’s strongest man masters. This is amateur so I don’t think the mutants will be there.
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mr flaps wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
mr flaps wrote:So I’ll be going to the strongman National Championships in Vegas in September 😮.
Class! Did you qualify, or is it open entry?

Don't the likes of Brian Shaw go to that? :lol:
I qualified through placing 2nd in the Connecticut’s strongest man masters. This is amateur so I don’t think the mutants will be there.
Ah. That seems fair!
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mr flaps wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
mr flaps wrote:So I’ll be going to the strongman National Championships in Vegas in September 😮.
Class! Did you qualify, or is it open entry?

Don't the likes of Brian Shaw go to that? :lol:
I qualified through placing 2nd in the Connecticut’s strongest man masters. This is amateur so I don’t think the mutants will be there.
Congrats Flaps :thumbup:
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mr flaps wrote:So I’ll be going to the strongman National Championships in Vegas in September 😮.
Awesome :thumbup:
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Well done Flaps, is that arm issue still clearing up for you?
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Sandstorm wrote:
mr flaps wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
mr flaps wrote:So I’ll be going to the strongman National Championships in Vegas in September 😮.
Class! Did you qualify, or is it open entry?

Don't the likes of Brian Shaw go to that? :lol:
I qualified through placing 2nd in the Connecticut’s strongest man masters. This is amateur so I don’t think the mutants will be there.
Congrats Flaps :thumbup:

Thanks.
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newportblue wrote:
mr flaps wrote:So I’ll be going to the strongman National Championships in Vegas in September 😮.
Awesome :thumbup:

Thanks. Really shitting myself now.
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Armchair_Superstar wrote:Well done Flaps, is that arm issue still clearing up for you?

It seems to be fine, it’s still a little weak though.
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Good session this morning. Took me a while to get going, was sluggish and had no urgency. Felt strong though. Stuffing my face with Sainsbury's cookies after dinner yesterday probably helped.

DL: 180 x2,2,2, 160 x3,3,3
Hip thrusts: 160 x12 / SL side plank & hip banded flex: x8 each, 3 sets
Pull ups: 15 x4, 3 sets
Seal row: 75 x6, 3 sets
Narrow LPD: 60 x12, 3 sets


Happy with the DLs. I felt that my hips were a shade high to start with, but it felt better by the third set. Haven't done more than a single at 180 in a long time. Really focused on technique for the back off sets.
I was experimenting a bit with re-setting at the top of each rep. Usually I'd to a rep, return to the floor and then exhale and take a deep breath to brace for the next one. Today I was breathing and bracing at the top, so that I'd lower and lift again without breaking the brace.
Not sure how I feel about losing tension at the top, but the second rep certainly felt tighter and with better form. I could try and do both reps without breathing, but I'd probably pass out afterwards.
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Fair f**ks for being able to concentrate with that bird doing DLs in front of you :thumbup:
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Not the first time I've done DLs with her around. :lol:
Joking aside, she seems to do her leg day on a Thursday, when I'm doing DLs.

Being a uni gym, the legging talent is fairly outrageous. Serious amount of Alphalete and Gym Shark. Where was that when I was an undergrad? :x
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I would break if I attempted that
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I was slightly worried about breaking my sphincter. Ate a load yesterday and still felt like I needed a poo during the session, despite going last night and right before the gym. Had to cropdusting up to the water fountain a few times.
The amount of intra-abdominal pressure with the belt on and bending over is interesting.
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Nolanator wrote:Not the first time I've done DLs with her around. :lol:
Joking aside, she seems to do her leg day on a Thursday, when I'm doing DLs.
lolz, found an video of me from 9 weeks ago. Same place in the gym.
https://imgur.com/a/brUoZFB
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Benched 320lbs/145kg for 5 last night which I’m pretty happy with. But then I almost blacked out trying to push jerk 250lbs/113kg log, horrible feeling.
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Good week so far:

Mon - Weights
Tues - 45 min rate 20 erg
Weds - 10km on the water with 4 x 1km sprints
Thurs - 250m/500m/1000m/500m/250m x 2
Fri - Beer
Sat - 8km sculling race followed by 10km tech outing
Sun - 2 x 10km
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danny_fitz wrote:Good week so far:

Mon - Weights
Tues - 45 min rate 20 erg
Weds - 10km on the water with 4 x 1km sprints
Thurs - 250m/500m/1000m/500m/250m x 2
Fri - Beer
Sat - 8km sculling race followed by 10km tech outing
Sun - 2 x 10km

What’s a tech outing?
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mr flaps wrote:
danny_fitz wrote:Good week so far:

Mon - Weights
Tues - 45 min rate 20 erg
Weds - 10km on the water with 4 x 1km sprints
Thurs - 250m/500m/1000m/500m/250m x 2
Fri - Beer
Sat - 8km sculling race followed by 10km tech outing
Sun - 2 x 10km

What’s a tech outing?
Basically working on the technical aspects of the stroke, specifically the drive and recovery phases. For the former you would be looking at a clean catch, controlled connection and lock of the blade in the water, correct body position and leg drive, body swing and use of arms. For the latter, correct release of blades, hands away, body swing, snap of knees, controlled slide and early square of blades. Doing all of the above in time with your crew without upsetting the balance of the boat. Its mentally pretty tough keeping focus.
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