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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:46 pm 
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Technique looks much better than it did a few months ago. Only mark against you - straps x(

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I can manage up to about 150 double overhand for two or three reps. Beyond that it rolls out. Mixed grip makes me feel uncomfortable since shoulder surgery a few years ago. Stopped doing it when my shoulder had less rotation, and kind of lost my technique. Messed around last year with it videoing from behind and my thoracic spine and hips weren't set evenly.
Maybe I'll try build it up again and iron out the problems. I can lift much more when I just take a breath, brace, grab the bar, and let rip. I lose tension setting the straps.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:49 pm 
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Nolanator wrote:
feckwanker wrote:
Technique looks much better than it did a few months ago. Only mark against you - straps x(

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I can manage up to about 150 double overhand for two or three reps. Beyond that it rolls out. Mixed grip makes me feel uncomfortable since shoulder surgery a few years ago. Stopped doing it when my shoulder had less rotation, and kind of lost my technique. Messed around last year with it videoing from behind and my thoracic spine and hips weren't set evenly.
Maybe I'll try build it up again and iron out the problems. I can lift much more when I just take a breath, brace, grab the bar, and let rip. I lose tension setting the straps.

That's a completely justifiable excuse :thumbup:

Just as long as you don't start wearing lifting gloves...........


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:40 pm 
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Hook grip!!


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Yeah, that's the solution, TBF. I tried it a bit last year, but once I got to like 100kg it felt like my thumbs were simultaneously going to be crushed, ripped out of the sockets, and explode.
It's so hideously uncomfortable that I just have no interest in getting through that stage as I learn to do it properly.

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Just as long as you don't start wearing lifting gloves...........


My folks got me lifting gloves as a stocking filler the Christmas before last. I was very polite in thanking them...


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I’m a big wimp so doubt it’s due to pain tolerance etc but I find it pretty comfortable these days. Built up a bit of a callus which helps.

Edit - if I get my thumb in the wrong spot it does feel like it’s going to explode, so maybe worth playing around with thumb placement and angle


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:45 pm 
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Bench: 90x4, 95x3, 100x2,2,2, 105x1, fail 110, 90x3,3,3

Hogged the bench for 90 minutes during the busiest part of the morning. :smug:



You only did 21 reps in 90 mins? Hog indeed. :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:54 pm 
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And warm ups. And paused bench afterwards. And narrow bench and JM press after that.
But otherwise, just 21 reps. Yep. :thumbup:


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:42 pm 
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Coan Phillipi week 3
Deadlift - 1x2 @ 200
Speed dead - 6x3 @ 165

3 rounds of circuits including stiff legged deads, barbell row, chip ups and good mornings.

Good mornings terrify me.

Finished with some dumbbell rows (52kg dumbbell) for 3x6 and some ab stuff.

Fooked.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:37 pm 
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How heavy do you go with good mornings?

Those are some heavy DB rows. :thumbup:


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Do you need direct tricep work if you do Bench Press and overhead press as part of full body split 3x a week. As a newbie?


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Are you doing direct bicep work? If so it's always good chucking it it.

Bigger triceps also help towards bigger arms in general, if that's what you're going for.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:16 pm 
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Clive Simms wrote:
Do you need direct tricep work if you do Bench Press and overhead press as part of full body split 3x a week. As a newbie?


I think it depends (as always). On things like goals, how much time you’ve got in the gym, energy levels, whether you enjoy it.

Without knowing more, I’d say something like 3sets of 10 once or twice a week won’t hurt but not necessary.


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Clive Simms wrote:
Do you need direct tricep work if you do Bench Press and overhead press as part of full body split 3x a week. As a newbie?



Yes.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:50 am 
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I'd always throw in some direct tricep work after a pressing session.

Whopper 5 day stretch finished this morning. Jesus, looking forward to a breather. Very happy with how the lifts are feeling.

Front squat: 90x6, 4 sets
Bench: 97.5x6, 4 sets
Seated pin OHP: 60-50-40-30-20 x5 each
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:31 pm 
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Nolanator wrote:
How heavy do you go with good mornings?

Those are some heavy DB rows. :thumbup:

Was going at 60 but the lower back was feeling tight so dropped them to 50. If I am to pop a disc, it'll be due to good mornings - I'm convinced of it. I just feel as though your lower back is so exposed that something is bound to go wrong.

As for the DB rows, I used to single arm row the 60kg ones for 5x5 but that now feels like ever such a long time ago :(

Getting old and injured sucks.


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I only do them with 60 as well. Purely just to groove the hinge movement, rather than actually get strong at them. I've found that emphasising the arse back part of the movement helps reduce any strain on the lower back. Centre of mass stays through your feet, rather than hanging out in front somewhere.
I also use my belt, the feedback helps me brace my mid back well.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:33 pm 
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Nolanator wrote:
I only do them with 60 as well. Purely just to groove the hinge movement, rather than actually get strong at them. I've found that emphasising the arse back part of the movement helps reduce any strain on the lower back. Centre of mass stays through your feet, rather than hanging out in front somewhere.
I also use my belt, the feedback helps me brace my mid back well.

Yeah I think I just need to use my belt more for them. I never use the thing anyway but maybe good mornings are the place to start.


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feckwanker wrote:
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I only do them with 60 as well. Purely just to groove the hinge movement, rather than actually get strong at them. I've found that emphasising the arse back part of the movement helps reduce any strain on the lower back. Centre of mass stays through your feet, rather than hanging out in front somewhere.
I also use my belt, the feedback helps me brace my mid back well.

Yeah I think I just need to use my belt more for them. I never use the thing anyway but maybe good mornings are the place to start.

I use it for everything I can now. So much more confident and tighter in my bracing.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:36 pm 
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Nolanator wrote:
feckwanker wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
I only do them with 60 as well. Purely just to groove the hinge movement, rather than actually get strong at them. I've found that emphasising the arse back part of the movement helps reduce any strain on the lower back. Centre of mass stays through your feet, rather than hanging out in front somewhere.
I also use my belt, the feedback helps me brace my mid back well.

Yeah I think I just need to use my belt more for them. I never use the thing anyway but maybe good mornings are the place to start.

I use it for everything I can now. So much more confident and tighter in my bracing.

They only downside of using it is that you lose on on strengthening your core in all the big compound movement as the belt takes a lot of the strain. But for the price of keeping my L4 and L5 in my spine, I should bite the bullet.


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Got out of the boot this week. My PT thinks we can try some gentle lower body work today 👍

Yesterday’s session

Seated overhead press 5 x 5 @225lb/100kg

Seated overhead pin press 5 @225lb/100kg 5@255lb/116kg 5@275lb/125kg

Seated single arm overhead dumbbell press 4 x 15 @70lbs/32kg

Lateral raise/front raise 3 sets

Push downs/single arm extensions 3 sets.


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feckwanker wrote:
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I only do them with 60 as well. Purely just to groove the hinge movement, rather than actually get strong at them. I've found that emphasising the arse back part of the movement helps reduce any strain on the lower back. Centre of mass stays through your feet, rather than hanging out in front somewhere.
I also use my belt, the feedback helps me brace my mid back well.

Yeah I think I just need to use my belt more for them. I never use the thing anyway but maybe good mornings are the place to start.


Is that correct? Though the belt ultimately increased core muscle activation


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Did you not post a link ages ago showing that there's no significant reduction in activation/engagement of the various core muscles when using a belt?


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I think so but don’t feel like digging it out


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:35 pm 
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The S&C experts on the “is Maro Itoje the best athlete in rugby” thread are impressive.


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mr flaps wrote:
The S&C experts on the “is Maro Itoje the best athlete in rugby” thread are impressive.


You do 5 x 5 of clapping with drop sets of high 5s and your numbers will go through the roof in no time Mr Flaps.


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mr flaps wrote:
The S&C experts on the “is Maro Itoje the best athlete in rugby” thread are impressive.



I’ve noticed your “power fat”....


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mr flaps wrote:
The S&C experts on the “is Maro Itoje the best athlete in rugby” thread are impressive.

Why did you make me look?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:18 am 
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Nolanator wrote:
mr flaps wrote:
The S&C experts on the “is Maro Itoje the best athlete in rugby” thread are impressive.

Why did you make me look?



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Down week this week. Nice and easy 1 hour session this morning.
Squats: 120x6, 4 sets
Bench: 80x6, 4 sets, 60x20

Toying with the idea of doing a circuits class this evening after work. Get moving and blow off some of the cobwebs from the weekend's drinking and travelling.


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Did 5km on the treadmill at varied pace, then 15 mins on the elliptical this morning. Had about three people ask me separately what was wrond and why I was doing cardio. :lol:


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Did 5km on the treadmill at varied pace, then 15 mins on the elliptical this morning. Had about three people ask me separately what was wrond and why I was doing cardio. :lol:

They're concerned about your gains!

Stag do last weekend - just about over it now and back in this evening for heavy benching.


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Nolanator wrote:
Down week this week. Nice and easy 1 hour session this morning.
Squats: 120x6, 4 sets
Bench: 80x6, 4 sets, 60x20

Toying with the idea of doing a circuits class this evening after work. Get moving and blow off some of the cobwebs from the weekend's drinking and travelling.


I nearly died on my erg last night after a weekend of skiing and boozing. Absolutely shot to bits, my legs are in tatters


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Nolanator wrote:
Down week this week. Nice and easy 1 hour session this morning.
Squats: 120x6, 4 sets
Bench: 80x6, 4 sets, 60x20

Toying with the idea of doing a circuits class this evening after work. Get moving and blow off some of the cobwebs from the weekend's drinking and travelling.


I nearly died on my erg last night after a weekend of skiing and boozing. Absolutely shot to bits, my legs are in tatters


Ah, skiing. I was wondering why your Strava looked a bit bananas. TBH, I took it handy on the booze. Couple of nights of socialising, but I wasn't really pissed, so didn't have much to recover from.


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A couple of Sundays ago my dad was participating in a mountain race. I the decent he was going flat out and slipped and gashed his elbow. Finished the race and got it bandaged at teh first aid station and went home.
That evening he went to the Swiftcare clinic to get it looked at and had to get 6 stitches. By Tuesday it had got infected so he went to the GP and was given a gefty dose of antibiotics. Had cellulitis in his elbow. On Wednesday it was even worse and had his dosage upped. By Friday he had to go to A&E for IV antibiotics and ended up stating for 5 days or something. Apparently they take infections near joints very seriously and wouldn't let him out until his bloods were much improved.
Now he's out and continuing with oral ABs for another two weeks or something.

All from a slip and a cut in a race. I've known rugby team mates in the past to get cellulitis in from cuts, but never had anyone need IVs.


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Nolanator wrote:
A couple of Sundays ago my dad was participating in a mountain race. I the decent he was going flat out and slipped and gashed his elbow. Finished the race and got it bandaged at teh first aid station and went home.
That evening he went to the Swiftcare clinic to get it looked at and had to get 6 stitches. By Tuesday it had got infected so he went to the GP and was given a gefty dose of antibiotics. Had cellulitis in his elbow. On Wednesday it was even worse and had his dosage upped. By Friday he had to go to A&E for IV antibiotics and ended up stating for 5 days or something. Apparently they take infections near joints very seriously and wouldn't let him out until his bloods were much improved.
Now he's out and continuing with oral ABs for another two weeks or something.

All from a slip and a cut in a race. I've known rugby team mates in the past to get cellulitis in from cuts, but never had anyone need IVs.


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mr flaps wrote:
Got out of the boot this week. My PT thinks we can try some gentle lower body work today 👍

Yesterday’s session

Seated overhead press 5 x 5 @225lb/100kg

Seated overhead pin press 5 @225lb/100kg 5@255lb/116kg 5@275lb/125kg

Seated single arm overhead dumbbell press 4 x 15 @70lbs/32kg

Lateral raise/front raise 3 sets

Push downs/single arm extensions 3 sets.

You must be a magnificent hunk of a man.

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MrDominator wrote:
mr flaps wrote:
Got out of the boot this week. My PT thinks we can try some gentle lower body work today 👍

Yesterday’s session

Seated overhead press 5 x 5 @225lb/100kg

Seated overhead pin press 5 @225lb/100kg 5@255lb/116kg 5@275lb/125kg

Seated single arm overhead dumbbell press 4 x 15 @70lbs/32kg

Lateral raise/front raise 3 sets

Push downs/single arm extensions 3 sets.

You must be a magnificent hunk of a man.

:thumbup:



A little too magnificent at the moment.


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Easy enough session this morning. Nothing particularly taxing, and took my time.

DL: 150x6, 4 sets
OHP: 50x8, 3 sets
Bench: 70x8, 4 sets
Face pulls: x20, 3 sets

Used mixed grip for the DLs. It's all over the place, my shoulders just aren't set evenly when I look in the mirror during the movement. Right shoulder has a gammy capsule that doesn't have much rotation ROM, so it hunches a bit. Left scapula wings all over the place. Something to work on, I guess.
Tried hook grip at 110kg. Got two reps and then thought the ends of my thumbs were going to be turned into pulp.


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40 min erg this evening, need a confidence boosting uber session now to make up my miserable performance on Tuesday!


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Nolanator wrote:
Easy enough session this morning. Nothing particularly taxing, and took my time.

DL: 150x6, 4 sets
OHP: 50x8, 3 sets
Bench: 70x8, 4 sets
Face pulls: x20, 3 sets

Used mixed grip for the DLs. It's all over the place, my shoulders just aren't set evenly when I look in the mirror during the movement. Right shoulder has a gammy capsule that doesn't have much rotation ROM, so it hunches a bit. Left scapula wings all over the place. Something to work on, I guess.
Tried hook grip at 110kg. Got two reps and then thought the ends of my thumbs were going to be turned into pulp.



If you’re not doing a deadlift comp get some figure of 8 straps and pull over hand.


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