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Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:26 pm**

Back in the actual gym as of 3 weeks ago. I don't know why but mentally it certainly helps my lifts.

Still running 5/3/1.
Pulled 210 for 5 at ~92kg bodyweight and paused benched 112.5 for a triple.

Numbers heading the right way anyway.

Posted: **Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:10 pm**

Same as FW, without the excellent numbers. Back in the real gym 3 weeks and loving it.

Back has been tight on and off a lot over the last 6 or more weeks. Flared up a bit on Monday during squats. Was fine while doing reps and I was bracing, but was stiff in between. Had trouble bending over to pick up my bottle etc.
Grand again now. Think I just need to pay lip service to a bit of stretching each day and it's fine.

Still struggling to find a bench I like. Some have a big bar where my feet go, which annoys me, while others don't but are too low to the floor and I can't get my leg drive right. Also, the latter have much slippier upholstery. Have had to go back to the former ones and just find out how to get my feet in place.
In doing all this, I seem to have fogotten how wide my hands go on the bar, as the bars only have one ring in the knurling each side, while mine at home has two.

DL is a bit iffy because of the back struggles. Can't quite hit that sweet spot in my form, but the numbers are heading back up. Did 190x2 there last week.

Lots of stupid struggles with minor technique points, but it's great being back in the environment. Also already less doughy than I'd allowed myself to get just prior to gyms reopening.

Also, the hot one who works there was complimenting me saying that I clearly hadn't lost anything over the lockdown.

Posted: **Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:26 pm**

Nolanator wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:10 pm Same as FW, without the excellent numbers. Back in the real gym 3 weeks and loving it.

Back has been tight on and off a lot over the last 6 or more weeks. Flared up a bit on Monday during squats. Was fine while doing reps and I was bracing, but was stiff in between. Had trouble bending over to pick up my bottle etc.
Grand again now. Think I just need to pay lip service to a bit of stretching each day and it's fine.

Still struggling to find a bench I like. Some have a big bar where my feet go, which annoys me, while others don't but are too low to the floor and I can't get my leg drive right. Also, the latter have much slippier upholstery. Have had to go back to the former ones and just find out how to get my feet in place.
In doing all this, I seem to have fogotten how wide my hands go on the bar, as the bars only have one ring in the knurling each side, while mine at home has two.

DL is a bit iffy because of the back struggles. Can't quite hit that sweet spot in my form, but the numbers are heading back up. Did 190x2 there last week.

Lots of stupid struggles with minor technique points, but it's great being back in the environment. Also already less doughy than I'd allowed myself to get just prior to gyms reopening.

Also, the hot one who works there was complimenting me saying that I clearly hadn't lost anything over the lockdown.

Good work.

I am racing at Henley Masters in a few weeks so four water sessions a week and two ergs. We have a new former elite rowing coach and he is killing us.

Posted: **Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:19 pm**

Nolanator wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:38 pm Yeah, I'm in a hoop. Did BBS, for some unknown reason, quads and glutes are all pain now.

Did bench/back yesterday. First pullups since December. Have been doing tons of BO rows, so my back should be "strong", but just haven't pulled in the vertical plane in over 5 months.
The benches are shite, have to get used to them again. Couple of cm higher off the floor, so my leg position/hip extension is different, and the legs of the bench has a T shape at each end, rather than just one. If that makes sense?
There's a cross piece on the floor where my feet should go, messes up my foot placement entirely.

Also, the floor is slippy so my feet slide out.

I love being back, I swear.

Sorry to jump into the middle of a conversation, but what is BBS? Secondly, does not knowing this make me a moron?

Posted: **Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:30 pm**

That was meant to be BSS. Bulgarian split squats. They're the devil, but very good.

Posted: **Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:32 pm**

Nolanator wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:30 pm That was meant to be BSS. Bulgarian split squats. They're the devil, but very good.

They stink!
I do those sometimes with a (light) barbell. Is it better with the dumbbells?

Posted: **Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:01 pm**

Which do you prefer? Do those.
Personally I prefer DBs cuz you can hold them down by your sides, the BB would have to go on the shoulders, which adds extra complexity/balance that I'm not interested in.

They're a fairly versatile exercise. Track you forward knee out in front of the knee and let your waist stay slightly bent, and it's a quad dominant movement. Keep your back thigh and torso vertical with your front knee not tracking forward past the foot, and it's very glute dominant.

I use them as an assistance exercise after proper barbell squats to get more volume and some isometric work in. Just use whatever weight feels right on the day. I'm not fussed about how "strong" I am at them.

Posted: **Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:37 pm**

Just been diagnosed with medial epicondylitis or more commonly, golfers elbow
I cant do any curling motions its agony

Anyone any hints or tips for a quick recovery?

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2021 10:33 am**

Have you seen someone about rehab/management, or just diagnosed?

If not, go see a physio!

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2021 10:39 am**

Had a class overhead session this morning.
Was tired after only 6 hours of sleep, but whatever way I warmed up and fired up everything, I was able to brace really well, not discomfort and didn't loose technique on the grindier singles/doubles.

Topped out with 65x4, 70x3, 72.5x2, 75x1, 70x3,2

Lifetime PR is 80. Boom. Gonna try and break that in a few weeks before heading away for a week's holiday.

Posted: **Mon Jul 05, 2021 6:32 pm**

Had some tissue work done this afternoon cuz I've struggled with a tight lower back and some neck spasm recently.

Holy crap, I've never had my hips worked on before. That was sore, but felt great afterwards.

Posted: **Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:01 pm**

6 X 500m sprints with 1 min rest this evening.

1:42.5
1:42.6
1:43.6
1:46.1
1:47.1
1:47.2

Lactic tastic.

Posted: **Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:31 am**

Winnie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:37 pm Just been diagnosed with medial epicondylitis or more commonly, golfers elbow
I cant do any curling motions its agony

Anyone any hints or tips for a quick recovery?

A good physio.

Loads of stretching, that and tennis elbow are horrible.

Posted: **Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:58 am**

Winnie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:37 pm Just been diagnosed with medial epicondylitis or more commonly, golfers elbow
I cant do any curling motions its agony

Anyone any hints or tips for a quick recovery?

I don’t know if I had that, but I had something and for months and it farked me in any compound exercise that involved rotating my shoulder - e.g. snatch. I obviously couldn’t do any bicep stuff but I didn’t care about that much. I’m too old to be chasing beach muscles.

I think I did it taking too heavy a weight from a squat rack down to the ground, and not letting it heal.

As I’d just spent a fortune on fancy lifting shoes I tried to work through it but realised it wasn’t going to work out well. I’ve cut out those exercises for 6 months now and it’s starting to feel right. Sorry I don’t have better news.

In other news, I guarantee you that I’m the weakest human to ever but a pair of size 47 (12.5) Nike Romaleos. I can’t look people in the eye at the gym. But they are amazing! I never knew what a difference shoes could make - much bigger effect that golf shoes have (on the sport of golf). Blew my mind. Still, I look like a joke.

Posted: **Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:38 am**

Did you go to a physio, Towny?

Posted: **Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:11 am**

towny wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:58 am
Winnie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:37 pm Just been diagnosed with medial epicondylitis or more commonly, golfers elbow
I cant do any curling motions its agony

Anyone any hints or tips for a quick recovery?
I don’t know if I had that, but I had something and for months and it farked me in any compound exercise that involved rotating my shoulder - e.g. snatch. I obviously couldn’t do any bicep stuff but I didn’t care about that much. I’m too old to be chasing beach muscles.

I think I did it taking too heavy a weight from a squat rack down to the ground, and not letting it heal.

As I’d just spent a fortune on fancy lifting shoes I tried to work through it but realised it wasn’t going to work out well. I’ve cut out those exercises for 6 months now and it’s starting to feel right. Sorry I don’t have better news.

In other news, I guarantee you that I’m the weakest human to ever but a pair of size 47 (12.5) Nike Romaleos. I can’t look people in the eye at the gym. But they are amazing! I never knew what a difference shoes could make - much bigger effect that golf shoes have (on the sport of golf). Blew my mind. Still, I look like a joke.

When you wear Oly shoes for the first time squatting, the difference is amazing - you are so steady that literally feel as though your feet are set in concrete. Really helps the confidence.

Posted: **Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:29 am**

Yep. Still remember trying a pair on in a shop and doing some BW squats and feeling like I was bolted to the floor.
Took me years to get a pair, thinking my strength/ability didn't justify it.

Fúck that, wear them, they're great.

Posted: **Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:24 pm**

Nolanator wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:29 am Yep. Still remember trying a pair on in a shop and doing some BW squats and feeling like I was bolted to the floor.
Took me years to get a pair, thinking my strength/ability didn't justify it.

Fúck that, wear them, they're great.

Bolted to the floor. That's exactly what it feels like.
I want to wear them to the shops

Posted: **Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:27 pm**

Nolanator wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:38 am Did you go to a physio, Towny?

Nah. I don't believe in them. I think doing nothing but whingeing to everyone around me is the best way to recover from any injury.

Though I'm not 100% sure my approach is the right one.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:37 pm**

Was doing overhead/shoulder work this morning and was in a bit of a shit mood, so decided to have some fun after completing strict OHP.

Arsed aroudn with clean & push press. Managed a rep at 80kg. The cleans felt good. I feel like I "get" them, what I should be doing and how they should feel. PP was fúcking horrific.

The 80kg was basically a strict press with just a little dip at the start.
I don't know how to use my legs and actually power the bar up the way it should.

Still, got 80kg from the floor to locked out overhead, so well happy with that.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:39 pm**

Nolanator wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:37 pm Was doing overhead/shoulder work this morning and was in a bit of a shit mood, so decided to have some fun after completing strict OHP.

Arsed aroudn with clean & push press. Managed a rep at 80kg. The cleans felt good. I feel like I "get" them, what I should be doing and how they should feel. PP was fúcking horrific.
The 80kg was basically a strict press with just a little dip at the start.
I don't know how to use my legs and actually power the bar up the way it should.

Still, got 80kg from the floor to locked out overhead, so well happy with that.

Havent really tried push pressing much but when I do it always feels so weird. It’s something I’d like to get better at so I can put more weight over head

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:03 pm**

Nolanator wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:37 pm Was doing overhead/shoulder work this morning and was in a bit of a shit mood, so decided to have some fun after completing strict OHP.

Arsed aroudn with clean & push press. Managed a rep at 80kg. The cleans felt good. I feel like I "get" them, what I should be doing and how they should feel. PP was fúcking horrific.
The 80kg was basically a strict press with just a little dip at the start.
I don't know how to use my legs and actually power the bar up the way it should.

Still, got 80kg from the floor to locked out overhead, so well happy with that.

That is impressive Nolanator.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:18 pm**

Cheers.

I reckon with a bit of attention and fine-tuning I could clean 100kg in relatively short order. Just clean up where the secondary drive comes from and get more confidence in catching in a deep squat.

Think I might chase that as a mini goal. Although I dunno when to fit in cleans around all the usual powerlifting stuff I normally do.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:22 pm**

Nolanator wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:18 pm Cheers.

I reckon with a bit of attention and fine-tuning I could clean 100kg in relatively short order. Just clean up where the secondary drive comes from and get more confidence in catching in a deep squat.

Think I might chase that as a mini goal. Although I dunno when to fit in cleans around all the usual powerlifting stuff I normally do.

You could probably do it now.

But doing with confidence that you're not going to drop a weight on your head in a crowded gym is a very different prospect.

Personally I don't do any of that stuff anymore, for exactly that ^ reason. I just break them down into their component lifts and go easy.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:54 pm**

towny wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:32 pm
Nolanator wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:30 pm That was meant to be BSS. Bulgarian split squats. They're the devil, but very good.

They stink!
I do those sometimes with a (light) barbell. Is it better with the dumbbells?

You do anything for your small calves Towny???

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:58 pm**

What are some exercies do you guys recommend for Hammies? Yes I do Squats, Lunges and Leg press already. I also do lying leg curls and stiff legged deadlifts to really target hamstrings. My previous gym used to have seated leg curls but the new gym doesn't have those machines so I'm looking for another couple of exercises to really isolate hamstrings.

Someone at the gym suggested Norwegian hamstring curls. Never done them. Any good? Apparently you really feel the burn after a few reps.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:10 pm**

TranceNRG wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:58 pm What are some exercies do you guys recommend for Hammies? Yes I do Squats, Lunges and Leg press already. I also do lying leg curls and stiff legged deadlifts to really target hamstrings. My previous gym used to have seated leg curls but the new gym doesn't have those machines so I'm looking for another couple of exercises to really isolate hamstrings.

Someone at the gym suggested Norwegian hamstring curls. Never done them. Any good? Apparently you really feel the burn after a few reps.

Just normal deadlifts I reckon.

I dunno. I try not to over-complicate things personally. I feel the other stuff is for bodybuilder types and teenagers trying to be bodybuilder types.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:12 pm**

I do bodybuilder type exercises mate

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:44 pm**

Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:10 pm [quote="TranceNRG " post_id=6955286 time=<a href="tel:1625849903">1625849903</a> user_id=7438]
What are some exercies do you guys recommend for Hammies? Yes I do Squats, Lunges and Leg press already. I also do lying leg curls and stiff legged deadlifts to really target hamstrings. My previous gym used to have seated leg curls but the new gym doesn't have those machines so I'm looking for another couple of exercises to really isolate hamstrings.

Someone at the gym suggested Norwegian hamstring curls. Never done them. Any good? Apparently you really feel the burn after a few reps.

Just normal deadlifts I reckon.

I dunno. I try not to over-complicate things personally. I feel the other stuff is for bodybuilder types and teenagers trying to be bodybuilder types.
[/quote]

Heavy RDL’s for me. Normally for higher reps then my other deadlift day. Probably 7-12reps for 3or 4 sets. Also use straps so the limiting factor is my hammies not grip.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:20 pm**

TranceNRG wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:12 pm I do bodybuilder type exercises mate

So do I.

I just like to pretend not to.

Newportblue88 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:44 pm Heavy RDL’s for me. Normally for higher reps then my other deadlift day. Probably 7-12reps for 3or 4 sets. Also use straps so the limiting factor is my hammies not grip.

Yeah, makes sense for you.

For us normal plebs just trying to keep relatively strong and fit compared to average with limited time, etc. I'm not convinced specialist shit is really worth it. Maybe I dunno. Just musing. I trust you know better than me.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:34 pm**

Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:20 pm
TranceNRG wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:12 pm I do bodybuilder type exercises mate
So do I. I just like to pretend not to.

Newportblue88 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:44 pm Heavy RDL’s for me. Normally for higher reps then my other deadlift day. Probably 7-12reps for 3or 4 sets. Also use straps so the limiting factor is my hammies not grip.
Yeah, makes sense for you.

For us normal plebs just trying to keep relatively strong and fit compared to average with limited time, etc. I'm not convinced specialist shit is really worth it. Maybe I dunno. Just musing. I trust you know better than me.

Trust me they are as long as you pick the right exercises, I have been doing this stuff over a decade. If you are interested in building muscle mass you have to do a combination of your core exercises and isolated exercises that really target certain muscles. For example if you want to build bigger triceps, you have to do more than just bench. A combination of bench, close grip bench, skull crushers, dips, Tricep pushdowns, extensions, etc will get you much better results than just doing bench and military press.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:42 pm**

TranceNRG wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:34 pm
Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:20 pm
TranceNRG wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:12 pm I do bodybuilder type exercises mate
So do I. I just like to pretend not to.

Newportblue88 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:44 pm Heavy RDL’s for me. Normally for higher reps then my other deadlift day. Probably 7-12reps for 3or 4 sets. Also use straps so the limiting factor is my hammies not grip.
Yeah, makes sense for you.

For us normal plebs just trying to keep relatively strong and fit compared to average with limited time, etc. I'm not convinced specialist shit is really worth it. Maybe I dunno. Just musing. I trust you know better than me.
Trust me they are as long as you pick the right exercises, I have been doing this stuff over a decade. If you are interested in building muscle mass you have to do a combination of your core exercises and isolated exercises that really target certain muscles. For example if you want to build bigger triceps, you have to do more than just bench. A combination of bench, close grip bench, skull crushers, dips, Tricep pushdowns, extensions, etc will get you much better results than just doing bench and military press.

Probably I guess.

I've mostly been about functional strength for rugby and shit. Although I'm not against looking half decent either.

Whatever, it's all probably all behind me now.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:44 pm**

Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:42 pm
TranceNRG wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:34 pm
Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:20 pm
TranceNRG wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:12 pm I do bodybuilder type exercises mate
So do I. I just like to pretend not to.

Newportblue88 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:44 pm Heavy RDL’s for me. Normally for higher reps then my other deadlift day. Probably 7-12reps for 3or 4 sets. Also use straps so the limiting factor is my hammies not grip.
Yeah, makes sense for you.

For us normal plebs just trying to keep relatively strong and fit compared to average with limited time, etc. I'm not convinced specialist shit is really worth it. Maybe I dunno. Just musing. I trust you know better than me.
Trust me they are as long as you pick the right exercises, I have been doing this stuff over a decade. If you are interested in building muscle mass you have to do a combination of your core exercises and isolated exercises that really target certain muscles. For example if you want to build bigger triceps, you have to do more than just bench. A combination of bench, close grip bench, skull crushers, dips, Tricep pushdowns, extensions, etc will get you much better results than just doing bench and military press.
Probably I guess.

I've mostly been about functional strength for rugby and shit. Although I'm not against looking half decent either.

Whatever, it's all probably all behind me now.

Yeah I guess depends on the goal. These days all I want to do is stay fit, relatively lean and be in good shape.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:46 pm**

TranceNRG wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:44 pm
Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:42 pm
TranceNRG wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:34 pm
Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:20 pm
TranceNRG wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:12 pm I do bodybuilder type exercises mate
So do I. I just like to pretend not to.

Newportblue88 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:44 pm Heavy RDL’s for me. Normally for higher reps then my other deadlift day. Probably 7-12reps for 3or 4 sets. Also use straps so the limiting factor is my hammies not grip.
Yeah, makes sense for you.

For us normal plebs just trying to keep relatively strong and fit compared to average with limited time, etc. I'm not convinced specialist shit is really worth it. Maybe I dunno. Just musing. I trust you know better than me.
Trust me they are as long as you pick the right exercises, I have been doing this stuff over a decade. If you are interested in building muscle mass you have to do a combination of your core exercises and isolated exercises that really target certain muscles. For example if you want to build bigger triceps, you have to do more than just bench. A combination of bench, close grip bench, skull crushers, dips, Tricep pushdowns, extensions, etc will get you much better results than just doing bench and military press.
Probably I guess.

I've mostly been about functional strength for rugby and shit. Although I'm not against looking half decent either.

Whatever, it's all probably all behind me now.
Yeah I guess depends on the goal. These days all I want to do is stay fit, relatively lean and be in good shape.

To be perfectly honest, if I could give my younger self advice, it would be not to bother with all that isolation bodybuilder stuff and just put the saved effort into the simple compound moves. And not as heavy as I did either. Higher reps and lower weight. Youth is wasted on the young. Now I'm wrecked with tendonitis and I'm unconvinced it ever made any big difference.

Look at cyclists, they have calves like cannonballs just from doing ten billion reps with f-ck all weight. One of my mates is a saxophonist and he has biceps like oranges under his skin. he reckons it's from statically holding his sax for 20 years.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:48 pm**

TranceNRG wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:54 pm
towny wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:32 pm
Nolanator wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:30 pm That was meant to be BSS. Bulgarian split squats. They're the devil, but very good.

They stink!
I do those sometimes with a (light) barbell. Is it better with the dumbbells?
You do anything for your small calves Towny???

Absolutely nothing

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:02 pm**

[/quote]
Yeah, makes sense for you.

For us normal plebs just trying to keep relatively strong and fit compared to average with limited time, etc. I'm not convinced specialist shit is really worth it. Maybe I dunno. Just musing. I trust you know better than me.
[/quote]

I get where you’re coming from with the bodybuilding stuff and I definitely don’t know better, I am just a meathead but to me people should be spending the majority of their time on “heavy” compound exercises. RDL is a great hamstring emphasis full body movement. For me they aren’t in the same bracket as things like tricep kick backs, bicep curls or donkey kicks.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:03 pm**

Newportblue88 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:02 pm I get where you’re coming from with the bodybuilding stuff and I definitely don’t know better, I am just a meathead but to me people should be spending the majority of their time on “heavy” compound exercises. RDL is a great hamstring emphasis full body movement. For me they aren’t in the same bracket as things like tricep kick backs, bicep curls or donkey kicks.

Yeah, you're totally right of course.

You need to work on your quoting skills though, meathead. Less big weights, more typing exercises I think.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:49 pm**

DragsterDriver wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:31 am
Winnie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:37 pm Just been diagnosed with medial epicondylitis or more commonly, golfers elbow
I cant do any curling motions its agony

Anyone any hints or tips for a quick recovery?
A good physio.

Loads of stretching, that and tennis elbow are horrible.

Hard my first physio session a couple of days ago
Arm looked like a pin cushion at one point

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:01 pm**

Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:03 pm [quote="Newportblue88 " post_id=6955383 time=<a href="tel:1625864533">1625864533</a> user_id=634027]
I get where you’re coming from with the bodybuilding stuff and I definitely don’t know better, I am just a meathead but to me people should be spending the majority of their time on “heavy” compound exercises. RDL is a great hamstring emphasis full body movement. For me they aren’t in the same bracket as things like tricep kick backs, bicep curls or donkey kicks.

Yeah, you're totally right of course.

You need to work on your quoting skills though, meathead. Less big weights, more typing exercises I think.

[/quote]

You’re also right

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:06 pm**

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