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Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:40 am
by Nolanator
Question for our resident meatheads.
Does doing DLs @80% x4 on the minute every 2 minutes for like 5 rounds seem excessive?
Some workout that my missus was doing in CF (I know, I know). Seems like way too high an intensity for that length of recovery. Like I don't know what the benefits or goals are of those kind of rep/sets. It's not for strength, and technique will suffer after a couple of sets, so it's not that either.
Seems to just be designed so you can say how f**ked you are afterwards.
She didn't appreciate my opinion on it.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:44 pm
by Nieghorn
Kind of a fun story related to this. I've decided to do a sport management course and the profs held an info session yesterday. Part of it was showing the sort of discussions that take place and they wanted us to contribute. Question was something like "What challenges are being faced by the Tokyo Olympics?" and the slide had a picture of Hubbard in the corner. I love a good sport debate, but I was like ...
So when no one said anything, I jumped in with something mild like the lack of spectators impacting money made, sponsors, atmosphere.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:23 pm
by mr flaps
Nolanator wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:40 am
Question for our resident meatheads.
Does doing DLs @80% x4 on the minute every 2 minutes for like 5 rounds seem excessive?
Some workout that my missus was doing in CF (I know, I know). Seems like way too high an intensity for that length of recovery. Like I don't know what the benefits or goals are of those kind of rep/sets. It's not for strength, and technique will suffer after a couple of sets, so it's not that either.
Seems to just be designed so you can say how f**ked you are afterwards.
She didn't appreciate my opinion on it.
That’s ridiculous.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:31 pm
by Newportblue88
Nolanator wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:40 am
Question for our resident meatheads.
Does doing DLs @80% x4 on the minute every 2 minutes for like 5 rounds seem excessive?
Some workout that my missus was doing in CF (I know, I know). Seems like way too high an intensity for that length of recovery. Like I don't know what the benefits or goals are of those kind of rep/sets. It's not for strength, and technique will suffer after a couple of sets, so it's not that either.
Seems to just be designed so you can say how f**ked you are afterwards.
She didn't appreciate my opinion on it.
I agree with you. Although I don’t think the percentage, reps or sets is particularly that bad. Just putting it against a strict time is just stupid. Especially with dead’s to
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:13 pm
by mr flaps
New York’s strongest man a week on Saturday. A little nervous about my new programming, I haven’t touched anything heavy for about 2 months.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:03 pm
by mr flaps
Truck pull and car deadlift from New York’s strongest man, came second in both.
Zeroed the Circus dumbbell which completely f**ked me and struggled with the fingals fingers. Ended up 4th in the masters, not bad for my 3rd comp.
https://youtube.com/shorts/sU4Cbf3JwC0?feature=share
https://youtube.com/shorts/V1LVNG4krOY?feature=share
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:15 pm
by feckwanker
Nolanator wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:40 am
Question for our resident meatheads.
Does doing DLs @80% x4 on the minute every 2 minutes for like 5 rounds seem excessive?
Some workout that my missus was doing in CF (I know, I know). Seems like way too high an intensity for that length of recovery. Like I don't know what the benefits or goals are of those kind of rep/sets. It's not for strength, and technique will suffer after a couple of sets, so it's not that either.
Seems to just be designed so you can say how f**ked you are afterwards.
She didn't appreciate my opinion on it.
That's mad stuff. Way too intense - you can see why so many people who do Crossfit get injuries if this is the shite they're peddling.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:01 pm
by Nolanator
Great stuff.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:04 pm
by mr flaps
Nolanator wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:01 pm
Great stuff.
Thanks. I Feel like I was run over by a traction engine.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:10 pm
by Nolanator
mr flaps wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:04 pm
Nolanator wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:01 pm
Great stuff.
Thanks. I Feel like I was run over by a traction engine.
I can only imagine.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:12 pm
by mr flaps
Nolanator wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:10 pm
mr flaps wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:04 pm
Nolanator wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:01 pm
Great stuff.
Thanks. I Feel like I was run over by a traction engine.
I can only imagine.
The sitting around cooling off between events is a killer, no warm up lifts and then going balls out on what probably a 550+ deadlift is tough.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:01 pm
by highlands
Well done
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:16 pm
by mr flaps
highlands wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:01 pm
Well done
Thanks.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:19 pm
by Newportblue88
Awesome!
Really want to do a car deadlift… not so much the truck pull
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:03 pm
by mr flaps
Newportblue88 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:19 pm
Awesome!
Really want to do a car deadlift… not so much the truck pull
Truck pull was surprisingly easy. Any deadlift for reps event is pretty horrible.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:28 pm
by Nolanator
On holidays with the missus. Today we cycled 60km over the Gap of Dunloe in Kerry (in stages with food and chilling out in between).
This is my 4th time on the bike. Her 2nd. Wore padded shorts, and my arse is in bits and the rest of my body is in shock.
Really enjoyed it, though.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:07 pm
by mr flaps
Nolanator wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:28 pm
On holidays with the missus. Today we cycled 60km over the Gap of Dunloe in Kerry (in stages with food and chilling out in between).
This is my 4th time on the bike. Her 2nd. Wore padded shorts, and my arse is in bits and the rest of my body is in shock.
Really enjoyed it, though.
I got myself a concept 2 bike erg during lock down. Lovely bit of kit, but my arse can’t handle more than 30 minutes.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:21 pm
by blindcider
Did the conti thunder run 24hr race on the last weekend.
managed 80km in total which was ok if disappointing. Not as far as I wanted but had a few heat related issues and for the first time in ages got lots of blisters. All the distances were lower this year with no-one hardened/race-fit after covid with many people not raced an Ultra for 2 years now.
Had a great time though and so much banter both within my club who were running and with other runners/marshals out on course. It finally felt like a normal activity (for a given definition of normal of course...)
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:59 pm
by mr flaps
blindcider wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:21 pm
Did the conti thunder run 24hr race on the last weekend.
managed 80km in total which was ok if disappointing. Not as far as I wanted but had a few heat related issues and for the first time in ages got lots of blisters. All the distances were lower this year with no-one hardened/race-fit after covid with many people not raced an Ultra for 2 years now.
Had a great time though and so much banter both within my club who were running and with other runners/marshals out on course. It finally felt like a normal activity (for a given definition of normal of course...)
Can’t imagine doing that kind of endurance work.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:18 am
by Nolanator
Did a leg session this morning without using a barbell.
Need to back off anything involving my lower back and rebuild a bit for a couple of months.
Hack squats as my "heavy" movement. Then lots of unilateral stuff; BSS, SL hip thrusts, SL RDLs (but with no weight, purely working on control and proprioception), SL hammie curls.
Decent leg pump, TBF. Think I've a fair bit of work to do on my glutes, getting them to work a bit more equally.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:44 pm
by mr flaps
Nolanator wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:18 am
Did a leg session this morning without using a barbell.
Need to back off anything involving my lower back and rebuild a bit for a couple of months.
Hack squats as my "heavy" movement. Then lots of unilateral stuff; BSS, SL hip thrusts, SL RDLs (but with no weight, purely working on control and proprioception), SL hammie curls.
Decent leg pump, TBF. Think I've a fair bit of work to do on my glutes, getting them to work a bit more equally.
Do have access to a reverse hyper? Doing single leg reverse hypers has been a game changer for me. 3 sets of 25 on each leg as part of my lower body warm up.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:44 pm
by Nolanator
mr flaps wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:44 pm
Nolanator wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:18 am
Did a leg session this morning without using a barbell.
Need to back off anything involving my lower back and rebuild a bit for a couple of months.
Hack squats as my "heavy" movement. Then lots of unilateral stuff; BSS, SL hip thrusts, SL RDLs (but with no weight, purely working on control and proprioception), SL hammie curls.
Decent leg pump, TBF. Think I've a fair bit of work to do on my glutes, getting them to work a bit more equally.
Do have access to a reverse hyper? Doing single leg reverse hypers has been a game changer for me. 3 sets of 25 on each leg as part of my lower body warm up.
Ooh, think there is one tucked away in the corner. Will deffo give them a go. Have to dig out my hip circles and do crab walks etc to get the contraction firing.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:57 pm
by Nolanator
mr flaps wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:44 pmDo have access to a reverse hyper? Doing single leg reverse hypers has been a game changer for me. 3 sets of 25 on each leg as part of my lower body warm up.
So don't have access to a proper reverse hyper, but do have one of those back extension things like below.
Did them one leg at a time with just bodyweight and slow controlled reps.
Now my hammies are broken. I legitimately can't walk properly, and it's over two days since.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:04 pm
by mr flaps
Nolanator wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:57 pm
mr flaps wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:44 pmDo have access to a reverse hyper? Doing single leg reverse hypers has been a game changer for me. 3 sets of 25 on each leg as part of my lower body warm up.
So don't have access to a proper reverse hyper, but do have one of those back extension things like below.
Did them one leg at a time with just bodyweight and slow controlled reps.
Now my hammies are broken. I legitimately can't walk properly, and it's over two days since.
Sore broken or injured?
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:40 pm
by Nolanator
Just outrageous DOMS. No surprise really, an exercise that I haven't done in living memory, so it's always going to hurt no matter how in shape I am or not.
Back in to do glute dominant stuff tomorrow. That'll be fun to add on top of proper soreness.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:31 pm
by mr flaps
Nolanator wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:40 pm
Just outrageous DOMS. No surprise really, an exercise that I haven't done in living memory, so it's always going to hurt no matter how in shape I am or not.
Back in to do glute dominant stuff tomorrow. That'll be fun to add on top of proper soreness.
You could just stack up a couple of plyo boxes and do single leg reverse hypers with no weight. Great for warm ups.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:34 pm
by Nolanator
mr flaps wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:31 pm
Nolanator wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:40 pm
Just outrageous DOMS. No surprise really, an exercise that I haven't done in living memory, so it's always going to hurt no matter how in shape I am or not.
Back in to do glute dominant stuff tomorrow. That'll be fun to add on top of proper soreness.
You could just stack up a couple of plyo boxes and do single leg reverse hypers with no weight. Great for warm ups.
True actually.
It's an exercise I've never done, but looks absolutely class for getting the glutes going.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:34 pm
by MrDominator
Nolanator wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:40 pm
Just outrageous DOMS. No surprise really, an exercise that I haven't done in living memory, so it's always going to hurt no matter how in shape I am or not.
Back in to do glute dominant stuff tomorrow. That'll be fun to add on top of proper soreness.
That's Mr DOMS to you lad
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:55 pm
by mr flaps
Nolanator wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:34 pm
mr flaps wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:31 pm
Nolanator wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:40 pm
Just outrageous DOMS. No surprise really, an exercise that I haven't done in living memory, so it's always going to hurt no matter how in shape I am or not.
Back in to do glute dominant stuff tomorrow. That'll be fun to add on top of proper soreness.
You could just stack up a couple of plyo boxes and do single leg reverse hypers with no weight. Great for warm ups.
True actually.
It's an exercise I've never done, but looks absolutely class for getting the glutes going.
Gets blood into your lower back without fatiguing it as well.
My lower body warm up at moment is 3 circuits of 25 RDL’s with the bar, 25 banded abductions on each leg, 25 single leg reverse hypers and one minute squat sit. Seems to be working pretty well.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:18 pm
by Leinsterman
Flaps, fair bloody play with that strongest man competition.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:51 pm
by mr flaps
Leinsterman wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:18 pm
Flaps, fair bloody play with that strongest man competition.
Thanks
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:21 pm
by Nolanator
Friends are over from the UK at the moment, so I met one of them for a gym session this morning.
I did my leg volume session while he tested his squat 1RM and did some fun stuff (strong bastard hit 190 without completely grinding it out). Then we did some what he called "I hate myself" stuff.
I'd already done around 100 reps of hack squats, belt squats, back extentions etc. Then we did farmer carries followed by assault bike, and 50kg sandbag over the shoulder followed by prowler pushes.
Felt a bit queasy by the end.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:25 pm
by mr flaps
Nolanator wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:21 pm
Friends are over from the UK at the moment, so I met one of them for a gym session this morning.
I did my leg volume session while he tested his squat 1RM and did some fun stuff (strong bastard hit 190 without completely grinding it out). Then we did some what he called "I hate myself" stuff.
I'd already done around 100 reps of hack squats, belt squats, back extentions etc. Then we did farmer carries followed by assault bike, and 50kg sandbag over the shoulder followed by prowler pushes.
Felt a bit queasy by the end.
Assault bike
I do like a bit of sand bag to shoulder action. Normally an emom with a 100lb bag, 6 reps a minute for 12 minutes.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:43 pm
by Nolanator
mr flaps wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:25 pm
Nolanator wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:21 pm
Friends are over from the UK at the moment, so I met one of them for a gym session this morning.
I did my leg volume session while he tested his squat 1RM and did some fun stuff (strong bastard hit 190 without completely grinding it out). Then we did some what he called "I hate myself" stuff.
I'd already done around 100 reps of hack squats, belt squats, back extentions etc. Then we did farmer carries followed by assault bike, and 50kg sandbag over the shoulder followed by prowler pushes.
Felt a bit queasy by the end.
Assault bike
I do like a bit of sand bag to shoulder action. Normally an emom with a 100lb bag, 6 reps a minute for 12 minutes.
It's absolutely hideous. I didn't choose it, my mate did.
Only had the idea of the sandbag because it was sitting out already from someone else. Just saw it and figured it would be fun. I've never used one before. Really awkward dead weight, but somethingg different.
Between the farmer carries, sandbag, and prowler, felt a bit like an actual strongman.
Until I collapsed and rolled around on the floor for a bit. Some women getting their 1 on 1 PT sessions with 12kg KB exercises must have been wondering what the hell we were doing.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:50 pm
by mr flaps
Nolanator wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:43 pm
mr flaps wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:25 pm
Nolanator wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:21 pm
Friends are over from the UK at the moment, so I met one of them for a gym session this morning.
I did my leg volume session while he tested his squat 1RM and did some fun stuff (strong bastard hit 190 without completely grinding it out). Then we did some what he called "I hate myself" stuff.
I'd already done around 100 reps of hack squats, belt squats, back extentions etc. Then we did farmer carries followed by assault bike, and 50kg sandbag over the shoulder followed by prowler pushes.
Felt a bit queasy by the end.
Assault bike
I do like a bit of sand bag to shoulder action. Normally an emom with a 100lb bag, 6 reps a minute for 12 minutes.
It's absolutely hideous. I didn't choose it, my mate did.
Only had the idea of the sandbag because it was sitting out already from someone else. Just saw it and figured it would be fun. I've never used one before. Really awkward dead weight, but somethingg different.
Between the farmer carries, sandbag, and prowler, felt a bit like an actual strongman.
Until I collapsed and rolled around on the floor for a bit. Some women getting their 1 on 1 PT sessions with 12kg KB exercises must have been wondering what the hell we were doing.
It’s always amusing watching civilians react to proper training.
Assault bike sprints put so much blood in my legs I can barely walk. 50 seconds of just turning the pedals and a 10 second sprint is far harder than it sounds. I did 5 minutes at the end of a session the other day and was shagged.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:49 pm
by Nolanator
I Last used one around 2 years ago. Just did a tabata sprint thing. Only 4 minutes or work, legs were so pumped afterwards and my heart was going like the clappers.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:42 pm
by mr flaps
Nolanator wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:49 pm
I Last used one around 2 years ago. Just did a tabata sprint thing. Only 4 minutes or work, legs were so pumped afterwards and my heart was going like the clappers.
That sounds revolting.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:25 pm
by Newportblue88
Have been programmed tempo squats for the first time in years in my new block. 4 second negative then straight back up.
First session last night. 1 set of 4 followed by 3 sets of 7 normal squats.
Plucked a number out my head which was 160.
It almost killed me
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:33 pm
by mr flaps
Newportblue88 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:25 pm
Have been programmed tempo squats for the first time in years in my new block. 4 second negative then straight back up.
First session last night. 1 set of 4 followed by 3 sets of 7 normal squats.
Plucked a number out my head which was 160.
It almost killed me
Your DOMS are going to be spectacular.
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:24 am
by ElementFreak
My rower just arrived, kicked off Pete Plan beginner again.
5km row today
20:53 20SPM
HR was a bit high, 158 avg.
